Perfect summary. Both good, but Electric for 4wd and camping because there is more carrying than cutting and Petrol for mass wood collection because there is more cutting than carrying 👌
Great clip mate 👍 yeah I think I’m a petrol chainsawer myself, mainly for the convenience of just refilling and going again appeals to me over running flat and having to wait for a recharge. Cheers bud
Great video comparison, I was taught from a very young age how to use a chainsaw, we only had an open fire for warmth. My dad always said “dont straddle the chainsaw” at 12.08’ the way you were holding the chainsaw, if the chain broke you would loose your nuts!!
Add to your sharpening kit a stump vice. Also each time you clean and sharpen, flip the bar over even wear. Good video, I too am leaning toward a battery chainsaw.
Might be worth adding the time it Took to start the petrol chainsaw to the comparison as well. I’d certainly agree that electric is great for weekend camping trips, particularly if cost is not an issue, and you dont use the saw for collecting firewood for home use. Good review thanks Tyler.
There's cheaper electric chainsaws too, but the performance gap increases accordingly. Ryobi 10" is $169, 12" is $249 and 14" 36v is $335 at Bunnings for skin only. Obviously a bigger blade and 36v costs more, but even a 10" can still be useful in clearing trails and collecting firewood. The Ozito 10" 18V is $129, and 14" 36V is $199 which is a lot of chainsaw for the coin. 10" is also almost half the weight, which is useful when loading up our cars, but you might need multiple cuts to be able to clear big logs. Even Aldi sell one too for those bargain buys hunters. If you're buying from scratch because you don't have the whole kit you just need to choose which system has all the tools you need, which is where Ryobi and Ozito come out on top of brands like Makita and AEG, especially for a car guy like me. If you're more of a garden guy than a car guy you'd choose differently.
Pros & Cons to both clearly. I have a cheap Petrol chainsaw but honestly Ive taken it on one trip and never used it. I normally just use it for home collection when cutting a trailer load. I wouldnt mind an electric chainsaw for touring/camping however I can not justify the cost given how often I actually need one.
I agree with you. I have a couple of petrol chainsaws, a 14" Stihl and a 24" Husqvarna and they are great around my bush property. I used to carry a petrol one in the cruiser canopy but now I carry a battery one. No more 2-stroke petrol smell. When you clear a track, or cut some firewood when camping, a few more minutes cutting time means nothing.
I run a Ryobi 18v single battery one,I managed to get a 12v charger for it. For my needs which is only camping works a treat, takes longer to cut but I'm camping....
I too have gone electric. And just like you with your Makita, I already have the Ryobi 18V One+ tools, so I went with a Ryobi 18V One+ chainsaw. It works well, but the only thing I wish it had was a longer bar - to better tackle larger diameter tree trunks that's fallen across tracks. The longest bar you can get on their 18V One+ system in only 12". You have to get their 36V system to get a longer bar (14" or 18") which has a different style of battery altogether. It would have been better if Ryobi did what Makita did, simply use two 18V batteries to make it a 36V. Loving not having to 2-stroke fuel.
I picked up the twin battery model for my caravan trips having 3 husky’s and one stihl since bringing home I haven’t used petrol this makita is a game changer 30 cuts before charging.great video mate.
Good comparison makes the differences pretty clear. I got sick of two stroke brush cutters and bought an electric version and couldn't be happier. I use to get bad effects from breathing the fumes and tired of mixing messy fuel and difficulties starting.
Great vid Tyler. 12v definitely has its place but personally I would always use a quality petrol saw. The main reason is the strength of the mechanical components. The biggest issue with 12v is the strength of the clutches. An example is electric hedges. Only good for domestic light work. Thanks for the vid mate.
Hey mate thanks for the video, for the doubters out there we use the Mikita battery saws at work and they get punished and abused daily and we haven’t killed one yet! ( 7+ years) only thing I reckon you should have started the stopwatch before you started the saws to take in consideration how long it takes to get them started.
g'day Tyler ,, another great video , i,ve got ms170 stihl and recommend it as a back up saw , just take care to stick on correct angle when sharping the chain , 2 pushs through with file on these small chains should be more than adiquit just look to see the shining face on the tooth is all the way round the tooth , very small teeth so dont over file them or chain will be worn out in no time , and check bar for slips and file them down smooth , dont run loose chains on small saws like these because a twig of tea tree can easily derail the chain but dont over tighting it either , always rev the chain up before putting it to wood helps prevent stretch of chain and this causes the burrs on the bar
I love the electric stuff, I carry an electric impact driver to easily change tyres as well. My stuff is Ryobi because I already had the batteries, plus I have a 12 volt charger for them.
Hey dude great video! Having using battery saws at worn as a arborist I know battery saws are going to be the future no doubt! The small Stihl professional electric saws are great. But once battery technology advances the saws will become much more capable. Also on the chains. You should be able to get a Stihl chain on the makita. Stihl chains are excellent quality compared to many others on the market. Also please grab a cheap pair of chainsaw chaps 😂 it makes me so scared seeing people without them. I’ve been bitten by saws a few times and every time requires stitches 🤣 Great video mate!!
@@Malc664 I personally was a big fan of clogger pants as I’d wear them all day everyday. But chaps are much more useful while 4wding as you can just chick them on real quick. The clogger pants and chaps are certainly some of them best. The amount of R&D they put into their products is amazing.
Good comparison on soft wood Tyler, one thing I found when I was going round the block.. so much timer is hard wood 🪵 Some of the wood I came across often (central Aus, Pilbra) was like cutting concrete 🙁 Love my 18v gear but my mini boss struggled with a sharp chain so doubt the battery gear would do the job 🤷🏼
Great comparison Tyler, I have an electric DeWalt and because it only has one battery it is a little lighter than my petrol of the same size. About time someone did a comparison test. Good stuff mate.
I have the Makita also… and have it pretty much for the exact same reasons. I also run the Makita impact wrench and blower etc, so having 6 charged batteries becomes very practical. At first i wasn’t impressed with it to be honest, thought it cut like crap… turns out the bloody chain was installed back to front lol. Now the chain is correctly installed, i totally rate it. Just need to make sure you clean and maintain the build up under the cover… I wont have petrol because of the fuel and more importantly, the sound. It’s a shame they don’t make small diesel saws lol…
For me I'm a petrol saw guy. I have the means to charge batterys and love my cordless gear but..... Mainly for where I live and the camping /4wding we do. I have a stihl 026 pro with an 18" bar and have come across trees that it doesn't even get halfway thru. Just this weekend on our trip the saw came out 12 times in the 14km track. Could guarantee a month from now I could go back and would need the same amount. I carry 3 chains, 3 spare plugs and an airfilter. Also your petty saw needs a tune up/service. A stihl will start way better than that. I can pull mine once on the choke, it splutters. Turn choke off pull again she runs. Bad fuel or not. I think it depends where you go tho. I'm actually considering a bigger saw just because of the area we wheel.
I've got the smaller makita and an MTM 22" petrol. Both great. The Makita is one of those things you buy and know straight away it's going to get used non stop. Bloody brilliant.
As you tighten the bar , lift the tip up and then tighten the nut(s) , otherwise generally when you start cutting the bar will move a little bit and the chain will get loose . Maintenance tip for any saw when cleaning , remove debris from the bar rails ( where the drive links run ) and lubricate the tip roller , there should be a small hole there for that purpose , may need to be blown out with compressed air first .
battery will always be king when it comes to touring but if you ever do any touring around the vic high country having someone in the convoy with a big petrol saw with a 25" bar is always handy for clearing tracks.
Mate I'm just impressed with those socks 😂 Looks like electric chainsaws have come along quite a way in the last few years, used to be completely useless. Great option to take on an adventure, I'll take charging a battery over lugging a limited supply of fuel (which can be contaminated and then you have to jerry-rig taps and socks and whatnot to filter it 😤) any day. The petrol saw still makes sense if you're out to get a trailer load of wood, but I'll be looking to get one of those Makitas for future trips for sure. Edit - Those chains look a squidge tight, you want just a hint of slack off the bottom of the bar, about the nose of the flat-head screwdriver. Running them with no slack will cause power loss and put excess strain on the motors, the drive gear and chew into the nose of the bar. Give her a hint of slack and it'll run much happier. 👍
Great vid as always, one other thing is maintenance, you have to service petrol engine, oil, spark plugs etc. Will cost lots depending on if you do it yourself.
@@territoryproud2452 yeah man that's how i was taught too. At every tank of fuel - Fill the oil, change chains/touch up teeth, flip the bar. It forces you to keep an eye on everything.
@@ryantilley-general.shenanigans not to mention I find cleaning sharpening and tuning my chainsaw to be very therapeutic. Not too complicated....Just simple honest work 👍🍻
Gday mate, I was in the market for a new saw I ended up going the Stihl 462 with the light weight bar, being from Vic and visiting the high country a lot. Having a large mountain ash to contend with nearly happens most trips. I’d always prefer the petrol saw with a long bar to get threw the tree 🌲 I happy to keep my saw in its kelmatt bag in the tray. Cheers
Nice comparison mate thanks. On a safety note, when I was on my chainsaw course they said never start a chain saw the way you did. When is starts and the chain rotates it can cause the saw to kick and possible striking something or someone causing damage or injury
@@TylerThompson90 no worries mate. The majority of people do start them that way but it's not advised. I had to do the training for work to be allowed to cutup fallen trees after storms.
@@CB27 Have it on the ground with your foot/toes on the flat base of the handle while you pull the stater rope. That was the saw can't move around and hit you or someone close with a spinning chain.
Informative and timely. Been seriously thinking of getting a chainsaw soon. Had not yet looked into an electric. Appreciate first hand impressions and experience.
@@12321bennyg Thanks for the input. Appreciate Buddy. I grew up with gas chainsaws so am biased, but my needs are similar to Tyler's at this point so it is nice to have doubled my options.
You won't regret a cordless chainsaw, unless your collecting bulk firewood and need to run a saw for 8hours straight than batteries are the King. They are ready to go in an instant, sooooo quite, never need servicing and ALL WAYS start first go.
@@ryantilley-general.shenanigans Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. It will be a gift for my Misses, she is the fire Czarina, so electric may be more viable for her use. Do love the sound and smell of a 4 stroke. Old school talking.
Interesting views - if you’ve got the money, and right vehicle setup to charge it, electric. If not, petrol! Mind you, the exercise using a handsaw is also a bonus! 👍
Good comparison, I'm thinking of getting a battery one soon. I bought a Ryobi petrol chainsaw which went ok for a while but then it let me down when I needed it out in the bush and it still wont go. I think the battery one would be much more versatile for 4x4 use
I've got a Dewalt electric chainsaw. You can get a 12V charger for it that plugs into a cigarette socket which is great as I can charge the batteries off the car. Slightly shorter bar than those, but it's plenty big enough for cutting firewood and clearing anything but massive trees.
This is a good vid, living in the bush most my life and working on farms ive always beeing around and used petrol saws, ive been looking at getting an electric one for camping mainly due to noise and not having to cart fuel. But in saying that when i do my vic high country trips i still cart my big saw. Again good vid mate.
Great vid, but safety first Tyler. Ensure the chain brake is engaged before starting a saw and never drop start a chainsaw, especially with the chain brake disengaged and always engage the chain brake as soon as you finish cutting.
hey Mate great Vid ... i have an easy start stihl and its a few years old and i dont have to use any of the same pulling power as you do on choke 2 pulls max ... then starts first kick every time ... but easy start you gently pull till tension then is a small pull ... very very easy did cost a bit more but was worth it for me and back issues, ive never used a battery one except my Stanley/fatmax tree pruner which isnt bad either ... again great vid
Great comparison mate. I’ve run stihls for years but have wondered about getting a national park chainsaw 😉 with the advancements of technology battery is definitely going to be the future
I have 3 stihl chainsaws and have never had any problems with them 2 or 3 pulls of the string and it fire's up and will sit and idle until I turn it off but the electric ones work good too but when your batteries die because of the time it takes to charge it you can have plenty of fire wood cut with the gas one. But they both have there advantages and disadvantages
It's a bit more efficient to charge the tool batteries (about 15-20%) using a dedicated 12v charger than using a 240v AC charger and an inverter running off of the car.
Would be good too see you add the silky katanaboy in, obviously be more time but for price/weight and no extra/maintenance/power source required could be a good option for some
Good video Tyler. I would like to add for safety it is a good idea to take at least one battery off when changing saw blades/chains for any power tool. If by some freak chance you pulled the trigger it could have gruesome consequences.
I'm also a little uncomfortable watching undercuts where the chainsaw is applied to underside of log, using top of blade. If the saw bites, like when someone has fixed a nail or bolt into wood the chainsaw will kick into the operator when blade catches it. When cutting from top the saw will jump away from operator. Love the video otherwise. Keep it up please. I learm lots from you.
have a look at the charger, less than 1a @240v iwould about 19a@12v. you can actually get 12v chargers for the makita battery but they take about an hour to charge a 3ah battery so probably better off using the standard charger on your inverter if thats what you've got available. i just carry spare batteries and charge them up at home.
That's a good point for a single log cut and on bulk cuts the petrol will pull ahead but I am all for going fully electric. I'm not too keen on breathing the petrol fumes and messy mixing of fuel.
Petrol chain saw put it on the ground foot on the handle and give it a big pull starts up first try then adjust the choke. you might have a dirty spark plug clean it up a bit then it should start first go
For small jobs, yeah. longer jobs the extra speed of the petrol would win out. For me, being able to keep it locked in the car without the fumes, and recharge off solar panels or the car rather than carry extra fuel is a win.
with the stihl, when doing the nuts up, after a new chain, pro tip, hold the bar up, they do sag a bit. Also, id never wear gloves now whilst using a chain saw, bigger risk of getting a hand caught in a spinning chain, the glove/s will drag your hand into it.
Good review mate, but I doubt your electric saw will still be running in 15 years like my petrol saw The other thing as you said is it only takes a few minutes to refuel the petrol saw, how long does it take to charge your battery’s I do see the attraction and am contemplating a Milwaukee saw to match all my other gear 👍 Great in areas and campsites where your not supposed to use chainsaws
Hi mate, I have the same Stihl as you but my electric is an AEG 58 volt. The electric is slightly heavier and slightly longer but to operate them feels the same. I believe the electric has more torque and therefore is faster but like you said they are different saws. Thanks for yet another great clip. Cheers Steve
I must admit your "Drop Start" of the Stihl was not a good look..I will leave it at that... Yep I agree..the days of the 16" bar and that of the small trimming petrol chainsaw are numbered. I have mates in the tree lopping game that use electric chainsaws for the small stuff and they "luv em"..they have mentioned they can get close to between 150 to 200 passes on 8" up to 12" diameter wood..which is pretty good...which can equate to about 60 to 90 minutes..the noise factor is huge for them especially when working in and around housing..their little secret..keep the chain sharp and take small bites..don't stress the machinery !
I'll elaborate a bit then. Yep, the compression of the motor can stop the cord and the saw will come up and hit you. Put a foot/boot in the handle section to hold the saw down.
Should have the chain break on if ya gonna drop start that saw, if that bar hits somethin/kicks/or ya slip while drop startin its not gonna be pretty Good points though, cheers
Hi Tyler love the comparison vid. I have a slightly larger Stihl and also the Makita you used. Use both for different scenarios. I am sorry though but who wears shorts to use a chainsaw. My man !!!, at least get yourself some chainsaw chaps. Think about who is going to drive you out if it goes pear shaped. You are after all a long a way from help.
My 1st alternative power chainsaw was mains power so an issue in bush, however I would replace it with battery, before buying petrol powered saw. I’m a fan of Stil , but no longer enjoy the noise. 😉
You should have started the time from the moment you tried to start them. One of the benefits of e-chainsaws is the instant start, which you've also pointed out. Adding the start process into the time would have made the total time closer. After using e-chainsaws after a while, you really noticed the loudness of the 2-stroke chainsaws. A tip, include a couple of different size brushes & some microfibre cloth into your chainsaw bag for cleaning.
I like this review, yet I noticed that safety issue is not totally yours, isn't it? For examble min 7 sec 36 chain exchange at the Makita. Never exchange any tool at any electric decive without pulling the plug or taking off the batteries. And where are the anti cut safety clothes while you do have those chain saws actually in work cutting wood?
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Perfect summary. Both good, but Electric for 4wd and camping because there is more carrying than cutting and Petrol for mass wood collection because there is more cutting than carrying 👌
Spot on i think.
Tyler you can get a makita charger with a cigarette plug and charge it on 12 volt 😎
Great clip mate 👍 yeah I think I’m a petrol chainsawer myself, mainly for the convenience of just refilling and going again appeals to me over running flat and having to wait for a recharge. Cheers bud
Great video comparison, I was taught from a very young age how to use a chainsaw, we only had an open fire for warmth.
My dad always said “dont straddle the chainsaw” at 12.08’ the way you were holding the chainsaw, if the chain broke you would loose your nuts!!
Add to your sharpening kit a stump vice. Also each time you clean and sharpen, flip the bar over even wear.
Good video, I too am leaning toward a battery chainsaw.
Thanks for the advice about the bar, I'll start doing that. 🍻
Great video, i recently got a battery chainsaw, i was always skeptical but i now find i use it all the time and my old stihl sits in the shed!
Might be worth adding the time it Took to start the petrol chainsaw to the comparison as well. I’d certainly agree that electric is great for weekend camping trips, particularly if cost is not an issue, and you dont use the saw for collecting firewood for home use. Good review thanks Tyler.
There's cheaper electric chainsaws too, but the performance gap increases accordingly.
Ryobi 10" is $169, 12" is $249 and 14" 36v is $335 at Bunnings for skin only. Obviously a bigger blade and 36v costs more, but even a 10" can still be useful in clearing trails and collecting firewood.
The Ozito 10" 18V is $129, and 14" 36V is $199 which is a lot of chainsaw for the coin.
10" is also almost half the weight, which is useful when loading up our cars, but you might need multiple cuts to be able to clear big logs.
Even Aldi sell one too for those bargain buys hunters.
If you're buying from scratch because you don't have the whole kit you just need to choose which system has all the tools you need, which is where Ryobi and Ozito come out on top of brands like Makita and AEG, especially for a car guy like me.
If you're more of a garden guy than a car guy you'd choose differently.
Pros & Cons to both clearly. I have a cheap Petrol chainsaw but honestly Ive taken it on one trip and never used it. I normally just use it for home collection when cutting a trailer load. I wouldnt mind an electric chainsaw for touring/camping however I can not justify the cost given how often I actually need one.
I agree with you. I have a couple of petrol chainsaws, a 14" Stihl and a 24" Husqvarna and they are great around my bush property. I used to carry a petrol one in the cruiser canopy but now I carry a battery one. No more 2-stroke petrol smell. When you clear a track, or cut some firewood when camping, a few more minutes cutting time means nothing.
Speed test was a clear winner to the electric when you add in the start up time!! ⚡️
I run a Ryobi 18v single battery one,I managed to get a 12v charger for it.
For my needs which is only camping works a treat, takes longer to cut but I'm camping....
I too have gone electric. And just like you with your Makita, I already have the Ryobi 18V One+ tools, so I went with a Ryobi 18V One+ chainsaw. It works well, but the only thing I wish it had was a longer bar - to better tackle larger diameter tree trunks that's fallen across tracks. The longest bar you can get on their 18V One+ system in only 12". You have to get their 36V system to get a longer bar (14" or 18") which has a different style of battery altogether. It would have been better if Ryobi did what Makita did, simply use two 18V batteries to make it a 36V. Loving not having to 2-stroke fuel.
I've only got a 10inch on my little Makita!
@@Howibuiltit 😅😅
Another worthwhile video. It might have been worth noting that both these have a similar chain speed around 1,200 m/min.
I picked up the twin battery model for my caravan trips having 3 husky’s and one stihl since bringing home I haven’t used petrol this makita is a game changer 30 cuts before charging.great video mate.
very good comparison Tyler, they both have there pros and cons
Thanks mate!
Good comparison makes the differences pretty clear. I got sick of two stroke brush cutters and bought an electric version and couldn't be happier. I use to get bad effects from breathing the fumes and tired of mixing messy fuel and difficulties starting.
Awesome video mate, fully agree with that. I use my battery chainsaw 4dwing and the petrol one around the farm.
Great vid Tyler. 12v definitely has its place but personally I would always use a quality petrol saw.
The main reason is the strength of the mechanical components.
The biggest issue with 12v is the strength of the clutches. An example is electric hedges. Only good for domestic light work.
Thanks for the vid mate.
Thanks for doing this! Been looking at the makita!
Another great vid mate. I just love how down to earth you are. Good one.
Cheers mate!
Hey mate thanks for the video, for the doubters out there we use the Mikita battery saws at work and they get punished and abused daily and we haven’t killed one yet! ( 7+ years) only thing I reckon you should have started the stopwatch before you started the saws to take in consideration how long it takes to get them started.
g'day Tyler ,, another great video , i,ve got ms170 stihl and recommend it as a back up saw , just take care to stick on correct angle when sharping the chain , 2 pushs through with file on these small chains should be more than adiquit just look to see the shining face on the tooth is all the way round the tooth , very small teeth so dont over file them or chain will be worn out in no time , and check bar for slips and file them down smooth , dont run loose chains on small saws like these because a twig of tea tree can easily derail the chain
but dont over tighting it either , always rev the chain up before putting it to wood helps prevent stretch of chain and this causes the burrs on the bar
I love the electric stuff, I carry an electric impact driver to easily change tyres as well. My stuff is Ryobi because I already had the batteries, plus I have a 12 volt charger for them.
Hey dude great video! Having using battery saws at worn as a arborist I know battery saws are going to be the future no doubt! The small Stihl professional electric saws are great. But once battery technology advances the saws will become much more capable.
Also on the chains. You should be able to get a Stihl chain on the makita. Stihl chains are excellent quality compared to many others on the market.
Also please grab a cheap pair of chainsaw chaps 😂 it makes me so scared seeing people without them. I’ve been bitten by saws a few times and every time requires stitches 🤣
Great video mate!!
PPE is a good thing. Those stihl chaps are amazing. Are all chaps as good though.
@@Malc664 I personally was a big fan of clogger pants as I’d wear them all day everyday. But chaps are much more useful while 4wding as you can just chick them on real quick. The clogger pants and chaps are certainly some of them best. The amount of R&D they put into their products is amazing.
Good comparison on soft wood Tyler, one thing I found when I was going round the block.. so much timer is hard wood 🪵 Some of the wood I came across often (central Aus, Pilbra) was like cutting concrete 🙁 Love my 18v gear but my mini boss struggled with a sharp chain so doubt the battery gear would do the job 🤷🏼
Great comparison Tyler, I have an electric DeWalt and because it only has one battery it is a little lighter than my petrol of the same size. About time someone did a comparison test. Good stuff mate.
I have the Makita also… and have it pretty much for the exact same reasons. I also run the Makita impact wrench and blower etc, so having 6 charged batteries becomes very practical. At first i wasn’t impressed with it to be honest, thought it cut like crap… turns out the bloody chain was installed back to front lol. Now the chain is correctly installed, i totally rate it. Just need to make sure you clean and maintain the build up under the cover… I wont have petrol because of the fuel and more importantly, the sound. It’s a shame they don’t make small diesel saws lol…
ha @ diesel, a lot of things come to mind that would be nice to have in diesel :)
My ears are still ringing !!! Great summary. 👍
For me I'm a petrol saw guy. I have the means to charge batterys and love my cordless gear but.....
Mainly for where I live and the camping /4wding we do.
I have a stihl 026 pro with an 18" bar and have come across trees that it doesn't even get halfway thru.
Just this weekend on our trip the saw came out 12 times in the 14km track.
Could guarantee a month from now I could go back and would need the same amount.
I carry 3 chains, 3 spare plugs and an airfilter.
Also your petty saw needs a tune up/service.
A stihl will start way better than that.
I can pull mine once on the choke, it splutters.
Turn choke off pull again she runs.
Bad fuel or not.
I think it depends where you go tho.
I'm actually considering a bigger saw just because of the area we wheel.
Thanks Tyler. Yep the Makita's are the go. Easy to use and reliable.
Great comparison both are great 👍
I've got the smaller makita and an MTM 22" petrol. Both great. The Makita is one of those things you buy and know straight away it's going to get used non stop. Bloody brilliant.
Good topic mate. I have the same makita chainsaw ,cutting time might be a bit slower but so much easy to take away on the weekends
Very true!
As you tighten the bar , lift the tip up and then tighten the nut(s) , otherwise generally when you start cutting the bar will move a little bit and the chain will get loose . Maintenance tip for any saw when cleaning , remove debris from the bar rails ( where the drive links run ) and lubricate the tip roller , there should be a small hole there for that purpose , may need to be blown out with compressed air first .
Great job thanks mate, I go the electric also
battery will always be king when it comes to touring but if you ever do any touring around the vic high country having someone in the convoy with a big petrol saw with a 25" bar is always handy for clearing tracks.
Really helpful video mate. Have been thinking about what we need for our big lap. Thinking an electric one is the go after seeing this.
Mate I'm just impressed with those socks 😂 Looks like electric chainsaws have come along quite a way in the last few years, used to be completely useless. Great option to take on an adventure, I'll take charging a battery over lugging a limited supply of fuel (which can be contaminated and then you have to jerry-rig taps and socks and whatnot to filter it 😤) any day.
The petrol saw still makes sense if you're out to get a trailer load of wood, but I'll be looking to get one of those Makitas for future trips for sure.
Edit - Those chains look a squidge tight, you want just a hint of slack off the bottom of the bar, about the nose of the flat-head screwdriver. Running them with no slack will cause power loss and put excess strain on the motors, the drive gear and chew into the nose of the bar. Give her a hint of slack and it'll run much happier. 👍
Pros & cons to both - use the makita myself & obviously my other cordless tools are makita , good vid . :)
Great vid as always, one other thing is maintenance, you have to service petrol engine, oil, spark plugs etc. Will cost lots depending on if you do it yourself.
Buy a hellava lot of oil, plugs & fuel for the extra $300 & that's assuming you don't have to drop $800+ on an electrical set up for charging
@@gqwarrior6694 thats a good point!
A tip i was given off a forestry guy was to keep flipping the bar over, the bars are reversible and will last twice as long. (Maybe not twice as long)
@Kelvin Weeding they should put the writing on one side of the bar upside down so people know.
@Kelvin Weeding haha, sounds about right. 👍
I flip every time I clean
@@territoryproud2452 yeah man that's how i was taught too. At every tank of fuel - Fill the oil, change chains/touch up teeth, flip the bar. It forces you to keep an eye on everything.
@@ryantilley-general.shenanigans not to mention I find cleaning sharpening and tuning my chainsaw to be very therapeutic. Not too complicated....Just simple honest work 👍🍻
Gday mate, I was in the market for a new saw I ended up going the Stihl 462 with the light weight bar, being from Vic and visiting the high country a lot. Having a large mountain ash to contend with nearly happens most trips. I’d always prefer the petrol saw with a long bar to get threw the tree 🌲
I happy to keep my saw in its kelmatt bag in the tray.
Cheers
462 is a weapon💪🏻
Hey Tyler , good comparison buddy !!!
Also have had a 170 stihl for years & never missed a beat
Love ya socks too mate , 😎👍
Nice comparison mate thanks. On a safety note, when I was on my chainsaw course they said never start a chain saw the way you did. When is starts and the chain rotates it can cause the saw to kick and possible striking something or someone causing damage or injury
Thanks for the tip mate!
@@TylerThompson90 no worries mate. The majority of people do start them that way but it's not advised. I had to do the training for work to be allowed to cutup fallen trees after storms.
What's the correct way to start it?
@@CB27 Have it on the ground with your foot/toes on the flat base of the handle while you pull the stater rope. That was the saw can't move around and hit you or someone close with a spinning chain.
@@FlatBrokeAdventures Makes sense. Thanks.
Informative and timely. Been seriously thinking of getting a chainsaw soon. Had not yet looked into an electric. Appreciate first hand impressions and experience.
I have the electric Sthil and it punches as a camp chainsaw. Wouldn't have it any other way. Batteries actually last really well
@@12321bennyg Thanks for the input. Appreciate Buddy. I grew up with gas chainsaws so am biased, but my needs are similar to Tyler's at this point so it is nice to have doubled my options.
You won't regret a cordless chainsaw, unless your collecting bulk firewood and need to run a saw for 8hours straight than batteries are the King.
They are ready to go in an instant, sooooo quite, never need servicing and ALL WAYS start first go.
@@ryantilley-general.shenanigans Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. It will be a gift for my Misses, she is the fire Czarina, so electric may be more viable for her use. Do love the sound and smell of a 4 stroke. Old school talking.
@@mikemorgan4670 yeah the sound or a chainsaw off in the distance is one if life great sounds, but it wears off quick.
Thanks!
Interesting views - if you’ve got the money, and right vehicle setup to charge it, electric. If not, petrol! Mind you, the exercise using a handsaw is also a bonus! 👍
This is Australian gumtree hardwood. You don't wanna have to cut that stuff with a handsaw. 😉
Chainsaw and shorts great combo.
Good comparison, I'm thinking of getting a battery one soon. I bought a Ryobi petrol chainsaw which went ok for a while but then it let me down when I needed it out in the bush and it still wont go. I think the battery one would be much more versatile for 4x4 use
Perfect haha was thinking about buying a battery chain saw definitely buying one now thx for the video
No problem 👍
I've got a Dewalt electric chainsaw. You can get a 12V charger for it that plugs into a cigarette socket which is great as I can charge the batteries off the car. Slightly shorter bar than those, but it's plenty big enough for cutting firewood and clearing anything but massive trees.
This is a good vid, living in the bush most my life and working on farms ive always beeing around and used petrol saws, ive been looking at getting an electric one for camping mainly due to noise and not having to cart fuel. But in saying that when i do my vic high country trips i still cart my big saw. Again good vid mate.
Cheers mate!
Tyler, great comparison, I have the Makita charger that plugs into cig lighter so don't need inverter to change batteries
Still need a sharp axe for when either jams in a log Great work mate.
I carry plastic felling wedges for that purpose and a hatchet for a wedge banger .
Yeah good call. I like sharp tools and don’t leave home without my axe as well as the chainsaw
Great vid, but safety first Tyler. Ensure the chain brake is engaged before starting a saw and never drop start a chainsaw, especially with the chain brake disengaged and always engage the chain brake as soon as you finish cutting.
hey Mate great Vid ... i have an easy start stihl and its a few years old and i dont have to use any of the same pulling power as you do on choke 2 pulls max ... then starts first kick every time ... but easy start you gently pull till tension then is a small pull ... very very easy did cost a bit more but was worth it for me and back issues, ive never used a battery one except my Stanley/fatmax tree pruner which isnt bad either ... again great vid
Interesting thanks
Great comparison mate. I’ve run stihls for years but have wondered about getting a national park chainsaw 😉 with the advancements of technology battery is definitely going to be the future
Can’t beat the sound of a 2 stroke. Dunno about the socks champ🤣
awesome review...
I have 3 stihl chainsaws and have never had any problems with them 2 or 3 pulls of the string and it fire's up and will sit and idle until I turn it off but the electric ones work good too but when your batteries die because of the time it takes to charge it you can have plenty of fire wood cut with the gas one. But they both have there advantages and disadvantages
I like my little Ryobi chainsaw and have a 12V charger so I don't have any issues charging batteries when no 240v is available.
It's a bit more efficient to charge the tool batteries (about 15-20%) using a dedicated 12v charger than using a 240v AC charger and an inverter running off of the car.
I don’t need a chainsaw by any means…but that was still an epic review and comparison legend! 👌🏼🤙🏼
I remember the episode ya put the chain on backwards , Oh nice Socks
Add some fuel stabiliser + F10 or fuel doctor to the petrol. It stops the carb from gumming up and will start super easy next time.
Would be good too see you add the silky katanaboy in, obviously be more time but for price/weight and no extra/maintenance/power source required could be a good option for some
Good video Tyler. I would like to add for safety it is a good idea to take at least one battery off when changing saw blades/chains for any power tool. If by some freak chance you pulled the trigger it could have gruesome consequences.
I'm also a little uncomfortable watching undercuts where the chainsaw is applied to underside of log, using top of blade. If the saw bites, like when someone has fixed a nail or bolt into wood the chainsaw will kick into the operator when blade catches it. When cutting from top the saw will jump away from operator. Love the video otherwise. Keep it up please. I learm lots from you.
Good vid. So ( just in your opinion), would you expect a single battery Stihl like mine to last half as long as your Makita?
Hey mate,good comparison vid,what footie team are those socks (lol).Ihave a electric saw there great.
Which saw went harder. The cordless Stihl one you had borrowed in the past or the Makita?
Cant remember back to the Stihl enough to compare
have a look at the charger, less than 1a @240v iwould about 19a@12v. you can actually get 12v chargers for the makita battery but they take about an hour to charge a 3ah battery so probably better off using the standard charger on your inverter if thats what you've got available. i just carry spare batteries and charge them up at home.
I have a milwaukee chain saw Im not a fan of petrol. But if you timed them from how long it takes to start them both I think the time would be closer.
That's a good point for a single log cut and on bulk cuts the petrol will pull ahead but I am all for going fully electric. I'm not too keen on breathing the petrol fumes and messy mixing of fuel.
Petrol chain saw put it on the ground foot on the handle and give it a big pull starts up first try then adjust the choke. you might have a dirty spark plug clean it up a bit then it should start first go
Great comparison video, you look like a real lumbar jack with that beard and nice socks too. Cheers mate
Factor in the start up time and I'd say electric would kill it time wise
For small jobs, yeah. longer jobs the extra speed of the petrol would win out.
For me, being able to keep it locked in the car without the fumes, and recharge off solar panels or the car rather than carry extra fuel is a win.
If your making more then three cuts then no…
And usually if you get out a chainsaw you are making more the three cuts..
If you're familiar with a petrol saw & it's in good condition, start up takes all of 10 seconds.....
with the stihl, when doing the nuts up, after a new chain, pro tip, hold the bar up, they do sag a bit. Also, id never wear gloves now whilst using a chain saw, bigger risk of getting a hand caught in a spinning chain, the glove/s will drag your hand into it.
Should be holding the tip up when tensioning ANY saw. If you don't, then you don't know how to tension a chain correctly
Good review mate, but I doubt your electric saw will still be running in 15 years like my petrol saw
The other thing as you said is it only takes a few minutes to refuel the petrol saw, how long does it take to charge your battery’s
I do see the attraction and am contemplating a Milwaukee saw to match all my other gear 👍
Great in areas and campsites where your not supposed to use chainsaws
Useful info mate👍
Thanks 👍
Hi mate, I have the same Stihl as you but my electric is an AEG 58 volt. The electric is slightly heavier and slightly longer but to operate them feels the same. I believe the electric has more torque and therefore is faster but like you said they are different saws. Thanks for yet another great clip. Cheers Steve
@@krump743 I love my 58v chainsaw but its unfortunate its the only thing of that voltage
@@krump743 no worries mate I love mine.Cheers Steve
PS are the chain width the same?? Some electric saws I’ve seen the chains appear thinner. Don’t know if that makes any difference to a cut.
The good thing about battery chainsaw it can sit 2 years or more without using it and it will work as soon as you put battery on
Love my Makita DUC400Z 🇦🇺👍🍺
Hey if u added the time to start the gas saw it will be the same time I think 🤔
Good point. I'd say the electric one wins out also because there's no start time.
I must admit your "Drop Start" of the Stihl was not a good look..I will leave it at that...
Yep I agree..the days of the 16" bar and that of the small trimming petrol chainsaw are numbered.
I have mates in the tree lopping game that use electric chainsaws for the small stuff and they "luv em"..they have mentioned they can get close to between 150 to 200 passes on 8" up to 12" diameter wood..which is pretty good...which can equate to about 60 to 90 minutes..the noise factor is huge for them especially when working in and around housing..their little secret..keep the chain sharp and take small bites..don't stress the machinery !
I'll elaborate a bit then. Yep, the compression of the motor can stop the cord and the saw will come up and hit you. Put a foot/boot in the handle section to hold the saw down.
That power stance definitely shaved 10 seconds off the petrol time!
You can buy a 12/24v Makita battery charger for 18v batteries model DC18SE. You do not need an inverter.
Petrol for the win! 👍
Battery chainsaws are still a couple of years behind where they need to be in my opinion.
Should have the chain break on if ya gonna drop start that saw, if that bar hits somethin/kicks/or ya slip while drop startin its not gonna be pretty
Good points though, cheers
Battery power and the brushless motors defo have made battery powered a viable option compared to the electric from 15years ago 👊👍
Hi Tyler love the comparison vid. I have a slightly larger Stihl and also the Makita you used. Use both for different scenarios. I am sorry though but who wears shorts to use a chainsaw. My man !!!, at least get yourself some chainsaw chaps. Think about who is going to drive you out if it goes pear shaped. You are after all a long a way from help.
My 1st alternative power chainsaw was mains power so an issue in bush, however I would replace it with battery, before buying petrol powered saw. I’m a fan of Stil , but no longer enjoy the noise. 😉
Stihl have electric chainsaws
I prefer the my petrol chainsaw but I do take the battery saw with me as well.
Where'd you get the socks from?
girlfriend brought them for me haha
You should have started the time from the moment you tried to start them. One of the benefits of e-chainsaws is the instant start, which you've also pointed out. Adding the start process into the time would have made the total time closer. After using e-chainsaws after a while, you really noticed the loudness of the 2-stroke chainsaws. A tip, include a couple of different size brushes & some microfibre cloth into your chainsaw bag for cleaning.
Does the electric one lose power when the battery gets low?
Na seems to run full strength until it dies
I like this review, yet I noticed that safety issue is not totally yours, isn't it?
For examble min 7 sec 36 chain exchange at the Makita. Never exchange any tool at any electric decive without pulling the plug or taking off the batteries. And where are the anti cut safety clothes while you do have those chain saws actually in work cutting wood?
Do you sell those socks on your merch store? 😎
Demi is trying to get me to sell socks, maybe I need to listen to her haha!
Electric all day long I have a Milwaukee .