This is being called the greatest sportsmanship gesture but all I see and hear is a curt O’sullivan being extremely rude to the ref, unpleasant character.
Yeah, after all that super careful respotting a fraction of a millimetre difference he knew he still couldn't quite make the potting angle on the red without bending with a trace of side, and it wasn't a comfortable space to do that with, so he didn't take it on. Everyone then acts like he refused a comfortable pot out of some super sportsmanship when he just didn't. He couldn't comfortably pot the ball so didn't take it on, it's very obvious.
HUGE difference if you compare this coverage to bbc . Neil Robertson commentating on the bbc was insightful and talked about the ‘ unbelievable sportsmanship’ . But he and Parrott kept talking so you never hear much of what Ronnie and the ref said . With Eurosport the commentators stopped talking , realising that the viewers would actually want to hear what was being said, rather than the sound of the commentators voices .
@@herringboneflooring3861embarrassed himself several times, but his ego wouldn't know that. Fair play to the ref for standing her ground here, and with the crowd problem later on.
Such daft clickbait. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship. I don't understand what the fuck they're on about. Black was drifting off its spot the referee agreed and spent time fixing it. If anything it was UNSPORTMANLIKE of Ronnie to argue with her after she confirmed it was on its spot. Also, in a mid-match interview he said "She has it in for me"... What a fucking disgrace to the sport he can be.
Exactly well said. In my eyes he was being an absolute fart parcel and embarrassment to himself. Which is the only reason he done what he done, to save his face.
This was not sportsmanship, Ronnie was trying to gain an advantage. His attitude to the referee left a lot to be desired. He is undoubtedly the GOAT. But his behaviour can be tiresome.Well played Stuart Bingham
Yes I don't understand how anyone can misunderstand this situation, let alone professional players and commentators. Such nonsense. Such daft clickbait. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship. I don't understand what the fuck they're on about. Black was drifting off its spot the referee agreed and spent time fixing it. If anything it was UNSPORTMANLIKE of Ronnie to argue with her after she confirmed it was on its spot. Also, in a mid-match interview he said "She has it in for me"... What a fucking disgrace to the sport he can be.
If he was trying to gain an advantage he’d have potted the red wouldn’t he. He just wanted the black ball on its spot correctly, not rolling back so far. It’s poor replacing from the referee and he was proving a point. Players have every right to ask for a colour on its spot to be replaced if they’re slightly snookered behind it, it’s a common sight in snooker, nothing unsportsmanlike about asking for it at all.
The greatest act of sportsmanship, and then Ronnie doesn’t bother to shake the refs hand at the end of the session. Just leaves a sour taste in the mouth for me.
@@ykhatat clearly you didn’t read my comment, I said end of the session, not end of the match. If you’re gonna correct someone at least be aware of what they said first.
@@helicoptergunship you shake the hand of your opponent and referee after the end of each session. Obviously you don’t watch snooker that often because you would know this and explains why you are completely ignorant.
This is how Eurosport saw it without saying it. BBC was the other way but he couldn’t pot it after trying and trying . He just didn’t want to man up to making the error and overblowing situation . Was not turning back though
I get that but every time a player calls foul on himself it’s heralded likewise. It’s a good bit of sportsmanship and the game is admired by many for the gentlemanly conduct expected, just overhyped and not only by NR.
3:41: Clearest view...that does not quite pot without bending the cue ball slightly. Ronnie was clearly trying to figure if he could bend it comfortably with so little room to play with and decided against risking it. He of course wanted to make sure Stuart saw for himself the difference, but it still didn't quite pot so he played safe. Not sure why so many people think that went without bending with a bit of side, and you need enough clearance from the black here to comfortably bend the cue ball, which he didn't have so wasn't comfortably in risking.
@@WayneDutton-l5u It didn't "clearly" go at all, if it did then it wouldn't have been completely blocked by the black rolling a fraction of a millimetre off the spot... That's the whole reason for all this super careful re-spotting, and when it was finally exactly spotted Ronnie knew it still didn't quite go without using a trace of side to slightly bend the cue ball, which there wasn't enough space to do comfortably. The potting point on the red was NOT clearly visible at all and that's why Ronnie didn't take it on. Plain and simple. Nothing to do with sportsmanship apart from Ronnie asking Bingham if he wanted to have a look at what was going on, which is very normal sportsmanship in snooker.
Ronnie could clearly be heard telling the referee the red now goes, and she said I know but the black is now on the spot. He also tells her he’s not going for it and she says “it’s your choice” Were the Eurosport commentators wearing earmuffs? How could they not grasp through all that the possibility the red actually could be potted and he didn’t want to take advantage of the situation - whether it did or not is neither here nor there - the only people that had the correct view were Ronnie and the referee, as the camera never panned round enough with the pocket in view.
It once panned round in line and thats when neil roberston that it did pass. All i will day about the ref is that she just has to say that its been spotted correctly and leave it that. She shouldnt really be saying that the red passes the black. That has to be determined by the player
No what people are failing to understand is when she first put the black on the spot it rolled slightly and the red wasn't pottable. Ronnie asked her to take it off and put it back on again and was then able to see the red now goes. he knows it wasn't an ideal situation and decided not to pot the red because it could of been argued that one minute he can pot the red and next minute he cant due to the ref placing the black and it rolling. he was quite right to bring that up but only certain people will understand this him being one of them
Surely the indentation is caused by having the black respotted so many times before. When the referee places the ball, it rolls in to the right position, not out of it. Just because a player can't play the shot that they want doesn't mean that a ball was respotted incorrectly.
This undoubtedly worked against him and if i watched this a million times I will still not understand what Ronnie is trying to do. Sometimes proving a point is absolutely worthless and can work against you, this is one of those moments, the referee did a perfectly good job.
The way I viewed this is that Ronnie was trying to get an advantage, because the red didn't go in the first place. The red only MAYBE went at the very end then he decided to play safe anyway. Makes no sense at all. The black kept rocking back and blocking it even more. It was only when the black stopped rocking that it looked as if it went. I literally can't get my head around his frustration with the ref if he just wanted to play safe anyway.
Every other time the black was respotted during that match it would have set into the small divot in the cloth. Thats how a cloth wears......so why question it over and over......no need ron you know better than anyone how a cloth wears
Whow, the coverage on Eurosport is so much better than the BBC, the camera angles and mic getting all the conversations between player and ref. I never knew.
No 1. It was not on.. No 2. Ronnie and his ego says I know it's my choice. No 3. Ronnie says it's on , when it's not to massage his ego No 4. Nothing to do with sportsmanship.. and everything to do with his ego and complaining
For those that don’t understand what happened here - When Ronnie came to the table the black ball was resting in a Divot ever so slightly ‘off’ its official spot Ronnie then asked the ref to check the black and then when the ball was put on the spot proper, it meant that the Red was on to left corner (a different scenario to how Stuart left the table) When Ronnie played the shot, the red ball was 100% on ( it wasn’t when he first approached the table) and Ronnie chose purposely not to play the pot… subsequently losing the frame
@thesmithsnerdit was, but we could argue all day. I’m sure the experts watching alongside the former player pundits are all wrong, and should listen to the smiths nerd on such matters 😂
@thesmithsnerd he never took it because that wasn’t the position Stuart Bingham left the table in. When Stuart left the table, the black ball wasn’t in that position. I’m sure you’ve probably not watched the TV footage where the pundits explained all this. Ronnie chose not to play the pot on the red out of good sportsmanship, because he wasn’t playing the table in the same state that Stuart left it. When Stuart sat at his seat, he left Ronnie snookered on that red, and when Ronnie was asked to play the shot - it was on. Simple as, and of discussion
@thesmithsnerd ‘if it goes, he takes it’ is usually 1000% correct, which is why this is labelled as - and has been called by the experts - an act of sportsmanship
Ronnie was annoyed because the red wasn't on. That's it. Ref should have refused to respot after the first time the cloth was flattened. He's becoming quite tiresome in recent years. Still the best player ever but he's a moaning ***** these days. So glad Williams thrashed him and I hope he loses this tournament too. Maybe he'll give up and go and spend his millions somewhere not annoying up coming snooker players.
Eurosport commentators defo didn’t get the point but surely if the black keeps falling into the indentation then it’s in the correct spot as the indentation was left with the black being in that exact position over and over?
Yes exactly. The black likely never left that indentation the whole match, until the ref made sure it was respotted dead on the spot. The black was in one position when Stuart played the table, and it was moved when Ronnie was asked to play it. That’s why he refused it
no that's the rules... it must go higher than the black spot in the case that both sides are free ... so if it's rolling 0.5 mm lower but you can spot it 0.5 mm higher then the rules say you do that. Just for your information. IF it rolled 0.5 mm lower but you can only get it 0.6 mm higher THEN you pick the lower. That's why the ref positions it from the top not the bottom. AGAIN just for your information.
@@Dwpinvestigation it is NOT a fault in the slate!! What a stupid comment. For one thing the slates they use are very rigorously quality tested and for a second thing the chances of a slate (that has been very rigorously quality tested) having a fault that corresponds to the EXACT position of the black ball is precisely ZERO.
People are completing getting the wrong end of the stick with this.... The black was placed on the spot, but as there's an indent (due to the number of times the back has been put on the spot), it rocked back. Ronnie saw this and asked the referee if she could respot it. When she did, she also saw that it rocked. It's the referees job to ensure it doesn't, hence why she tried flattening it with her finger, and tool. Ronnie was NOT being a dick in any way. As it kept happening, he even asked if Bingham wanted to come and check and he wanted him to see exactly what was going on. After repeated attempts, Desi said she spotted it fine and all was okay. But as Ronnie could then see the red "too easily" to pot, he felt he was getting an unfair advantage e.g. he still wasn't 100% sure it was on its spot. As Neil Robertson said...Ronnie is playing safe even though he could pot the red. It's a truly magnificent piece of sportsmanship.
@@gabrielc6252 He could. You could clearly see the difference between when the ref first respotted it, and the gap at the end. All he needed to do was use a touch of right-hand side and he can pot it. Neil Robertson in commentary said he could get through to it, and Ronnie said he could pot it, but repeatedly said he wasn't comfortable playing the pot.
I totally agree with you. what a waste of time. Ronnie is the GOAT of snooker and i hope he gets his 8th win but sometimes he behaves like a complete twat, sorry, but i`ve said it now!
Eurosports for ya. As a Dutchy I gotta listen to the Dutch speaking commentator who is even worse than these guys can you imagine. Always watch eurosport on mute.
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@@bjrnchrstn Love the Netherlands and I’m not being to hard on the commentator. I’ll try with the sound off and let them earn their money in peace then.👍
All those attacking the title of this vid & also Ronnie, have got things very wrong indeed. What happened was this..... Ronnie could've actually potted the red here, but he'd noticed that if the black was placed 100% correctly, the red wouldn't be on. He didn't want to take advantage of this & so decided to play a safety shot instead. Neil Robertson actually said, “If he plays safe here this will be probably the greatest bit of sportsmanship I have ever seen in any sport.” Maybe get your facts straight b4 having a go at people...?
The red clearly potted. In the end there. Stevie wonder could see that. But that wasn't the setup when Bingham left the table so Ronnie refused to pot the red its called sportsmanship and the ref is incompetent
Didn't look like it potted to me. He would have had to bend the cue ball slightly and I'm not sure he had the room to play with to do that at all comfortably.
It did pot and clearly there was a few millimetres gap between the lines which at that distance was more than enough to pot the red but that wasn't the setup so he refused to take it on.
Simple - Ronnie doesn't need to, or want to cheat, so if he saw the red was on, then it was on. Bingham agreed. That half millimetre is impossible to see on TV, so people saying it was not on, or even was on, have really no idea what they are talking about. I trust Ronnie's judgement, and after so much was made of getting the black correctly on the spot, taking the safety - was more a matter of principle. I'm not sure it's the greatest bit of sportsmanship, more like Ronnie making a point to the ref.
Snooker needs to bring in some basic tech to sort out this re spotting of a ball. Ipads with remind on the `spot ` to show both players and get on with the game. £99 in Curry`s!
To be honest the ‘ amazing sportsmanship ‘ was not mentioned by Dale or Yates. This all comes from Neil Robertson on bbc The real q is was Ronnie annoyed at being adament the red could pot then after realising he couldn’t , played safe Or did it pot and Ronnie decided to display amazing sportsmanship . Ronnie is known to not snookering an opponent if he gets a lucky fluke .
This is silliness. As was the exchange with the ref about the open door, and his miscalculation when he wellied that yellow. This was not a happy Ronnie. He wasn't in the right frame of mind at all. Stuart didn't beat Ronnie. Ronnie beat Ronnie.
This was the greatest act of sportsmanship I've ever seen. The red was clearly portable yet O'Sulican didn't want to gain an unfair advantage over his opponent and refused the pot. The attitude of referee Desislavka was hugely disrespectful to the GOAT.
bollocks. The tendency is for the ball to roll towards the centre of the divet, if anything the ball was always respotted too low or possibly the ball was always on the right place until the ref flatten it out.
Respect Ronnie as a player but not as a person this wasn't Sportsmanship it was bullying the referee was 100% right not the first time Ronnie has acted this way with referees
I'll tell you what it was, one of the most bizarre pieces of overblown commentary from Robertson, and poor camerawork as the angle they kept showing from behind the pocket was not the potting angle, and a move to the left would have clearly shown what any snooker player knows, that he never had a potting angle and was too close to the black to use side without significant risk.
This is being called the greatest sportsmanship gesture but all I see and hear is a curt O’sullivan being extremely rude to the ref, unpleasant character.
Yeah, after all that super careful respotting a fraction of a millimetre difference he knew he still couldn't quite make the potting angle on the red without bending with a trace of side, and it wasn't a comfortable space to do that with, so he didn't take it on. Everyone then acts like he refused a comfortable pot out of some super sportsmanship when he just didn't. He couldn't comfortably pot the ball so didn't take it on, it's very obvious.
@CCC-gg1toDo you ?
@CCC-gg1to fair enough lol 😂😂
HUGE difference if you compare this coverage to bbc .
Neil Robertson commentating on the bbc was insightful and talked about the ‘ unbelievable sportsmanship’ . But he and Parrott kept talking so you never hear much of what Ronnie and the ref said .
With Eurosport the commentators stopped talking , realising that the viewers would actually want to hear what was being said, rather than the sound of the commentators voices .
You are absolutely right!
Ronnie embarrassed himself here.
@@herringboneflooring3861embarrassed himself several times, but his ego wouldn't know that. Fair play to the ref for standing her ground here, and with the crowd problem later on.
@@herringboneflooring3861 No It's called Sportsmanship you cheating b'stard.
Ah Parrott loves teh tawk, like, cos we Scousers, we love teh tawk cos we all ave a garrayte sense a yoomah, like.
calm down on "the greatest bit of sportsmanship ever"
Such daft clickbait. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship. I don't understand what the fuck they're on about. Black was drifting off its spot the referee agreed and spent time fixing it. If anything it was UNSPORTMANLIKE of Ronnie to argue with her after she confirmed it was on its spot.
Also, in a mid-match interview he said "She has it in for me"...
What a fucking disgrace to the sport he can be.
Exactly well said. In my eyes he was being an absolute fart parcel and embarrassment to himself. Which is the only reason he done what he done, to save his face.
@@herringboneflooring3861 Yeah he got the ref to spot the thning about 4 times, wanker.
This was not sportsmanship, Ronnie was trying to gain an advantage. His attitude to the referee left a lot to be desired. He is undoubtedly the GOAT. But his behaviour can be tiresome.Well played Stuart Bingham
insufferable human being
What are you talking about you absolute melt.
Yes I don't understand how anyone can misunderstand this situation, let alone professional players and commentators. Such nonsense. Such daft clickbait.
It has nothing to do with sportsmanship. I don't understand what the fuck they're on about. Black was drifting off its spot the referee agreed and spent time fixing it. If anything it was UNSPORTMANLIKE of Ronnie to argue with her after she confirmed it was on its spot.
Also, in a mid-match interview he said "She has it in for me"...
What a fucking disgrace to the sport he can be.
If he was trying to gain an advantage he’d have potted the red wouldn’t he. He just wanted the black ball on its spot correctly, not rolling back so far. It’s poor replacing from the referee and he was proving a point. Players have every right to ask for a colour on its spot to be replaced if they’re slightly snookered behind it, it’s a common sight in snooker, nothing unsportsmanlike about asking for it at all.
@@AymanBnailed it. He's a prick
This guy gets more of a diva in every match he plays, and that had nothing to do with sportsmanship
The greatest act of sportsmanship, and then Ronnie doesn’t bother to shake the refs hand at the end of the session. Just leaves a sour taste in the mouth for me.
He doesn't shake hands anymore. But he did fist pump. It can clearly be seen from the video footage at the end of the match. Stop spreading nonsense.
@@ykhatat clearly you didn’t read my comment, I said end of the session, not end of the match. If you’re gonna correct someone at least be aware of what they said first.
He shakes everyone's hands ✋️ in Dubai 😂
@@jonathanward7320why would he shake her hand if the match isnt over? Should he give her a kiss and a cuddle after each frame too?
@@helicoptergunship you shake the hand of your opponent and referee after the end of each session. Obviously you don’t watch snooker that often because you would know this and explains why you are completely ignorant.
You think showing a dismissive attitude towards the referee is sportsmanship?
N ot dismissive but more like Bullying as he always does when things don't go his way.
Imo I do think judd trump is more humble
The look the ref gives Ronnie @ 2:56 😂
Ronnie could break a cue over opponents head and they would call it fair play.
He can really be a knob at times.
Ronnie has an agenda to discredit the organisation of this event! Pure and simple
Yeah I think he's gonna leave WST if possible and breakaway to Saudi n China
He played the safety because he realised it didn't pot. Nothing to do with sportsmanship.
Exactly, that did not pot without bending the cue ball slightly, and there wasn't really room to do that comfortably.
This is how Eurosport saw it without saying it. BBC was the other way but he couldn’t pot it after trying and trying . He just didn’t want to man up to making the error and overblowing situation . Was not turning back though
More to do with his ego..I know it's my choice..that's ego right their
Of course it went
Only needed a trace of side I guess you are not a player ?
Misleading title!
It’s based on comments made by Neil Robertson on bbc
The red was clearly potable, so why if he was trying to take advantage did he not pot it then?
Neil Robertson got this absolutely right.
@@Christian-zk8hmI still don't think it's the greatest piece of sportsmanship though, mild sportsmanship at best.
I get that but every time a player calls foul on himself it’s heralded likewise.
It’s a good bit of sportsmanship and the game is admired by many for the gentlemanly conduct expected, just overhyped and not only by NR.
Well done to Stuart Bingham on not getting drawn into Ronnie's silly little game playing.
Have to agree 👍
If only Ronnie had an ounce of Ray Readon`s sportsmanship.
3:41: Clearest view...that does not quite pot without bending the cue ball slightly. Ronnie was clearly trying to figure if he could bend it comfortably with so little room to play with and decided against risking it. He of course wanted to make sure Stuart saw for himself the difference, but it still didn't quite pot so he played safe. Not sure why so many people think that went without bending with a bit of side, and you need enough clearance from the black here to comfortably bend the cue ball, which he didn't have so wasn't comfortably in risking.
A blind man can see it clearly went.
@@WayneDutton-l5u It didn't "clearly" go at all, if it did then it wouldn't have been completely blocked by the black rolling a fraction of a millimetre off the spot... That's the whole reason for all this super careful re-spotting, and when it was finally exactly spotted Ronnie knew it still didn't quite go without using a trace of side to slightly bend the cue ball, which there wasn't enough space to do comfortably. The potting point on the red was NOT clearly visible at all and that's why Ronnie didn't take it on. Plain and simple. Nothing to do with sportsmanship apart from Ronnie asking Bingham if he wanted to have a look at what was going on, which is very normal sportsmanship in snooker.
SO GLAD TO SEE THE BACK OF THE MOST CONCEITED COUNT IN SPORT.HOPE HE NEVER RETURNS TO THE SPORT...PPP
Ronnie could clearly be heard telling the referee the red now goes, and she said I know but the black is now on the spot. He also tells her he’s not going for it and she says “it’s your choice” Were the Eurosport commentators wearing earmuffs? How could they not grasp through all that the possibility the red actually could be potted and he didn’t want to take advantage of the situation - whether it did or not is neither here nor there - the only people that had the correct view were Ronnie and the referee, as the camera never panned round enough with the pocket in view.
It once panned round in line and thats when neil roberston that it did pass. All i will day about the ref is that she just has to say that its been spotted correctly and leave it that. She shouldnt really be saying that the red passes the black. That has to be determined by the player
No what people are failing to understand is when she first put the black on the spot it rolled slightly and the red wasn't pottable. Ronnie asked her to take it off and put it back on again and was then able to see the red now goes. he knows it wasn't an ideal situation and decided not to pot the red because it could of been argued that one minute he can pot the red and next minute he cant due to the ref placing the black and it rolling. he was quite right to bring that up but only certain people will understand this him being one of them
Surely the indentation is caused by having the black respotted so many times before. When the referee places the ball, it rolls in to the right position, not out of it. Just because a player can't play the shot that they want doesn't mean that a ball was respotted incorrectly.
he made a 147 break in less time
Good one! True!
This undoubtedly worked against him and if i watched this a million times I will still not understand what Ronnie is trying to do.
Sometimes proving a point is absolutely worthless and can work against you, this is one of those moments, the referee did a perfectly good job.
O'Sullivan's a complete Div
The way I viewed this is that Ronnie was trying to get an advantage, because the red didn't go in the first place. The red only MAYBE went at the very end then he decided to play safe anyway. Makes no sense at all. The black kept rocking back and blocking it even more. It was only when the black stopped rocking that it looked as if it went. I literally can't get my head around his frustration with the ref if he just wanted to play safe anyway.
Attention seeking
Unbelievable sportsmanship, where!
The ref needed to assert her authority but didn’t. Also, the red wasn’t on, period.
Looked at it again... He is trying to BULLY her.
The referee should be firmer. Respot the black once, if you don't like it, tough.
What bloody sportsmanship!! He wanted the black spotted so the red would go. Try playing better position in the first place.
Breaking news: Ronnie O'Sullivan plays a safety off a red he couldn't pot.
Wrong,try again.
@frankfrank agree completely
You must have uploaded the wrong clip
Lol
Lack of sportsmanship in fact. Made a big deal because he wanted to play that ball
She is one of the best referees the sport has she is patient and very professional
Simp
Every other time the black was respotted during that match it would have set into the small divot in the cloth. Thats how a cloth wears......so why question it over and over......no need ron you know better than anyone how a cloth wears
I love the space mans commentary, he's so interesting as a person a proper gentleman.
Whow, the coverage on Eurosport is so much better than the BBC, the camera angles and mic getting all the conversations between player and ref. I never knew.
No 1. It was not on..
No 2. Ronnie and his ego says I know it's my choice.
No 3. Ronnie says it's on , when it's not to massage his ego
No 4. Nothing to do with sportsmanship.. and everything to do with his ego and complaining
Wrong
@@WayneDutton-l5uSplendid argument
@dwayne I can’t disagree sadly 😞
Great sportsmanship by Ronnie.
Its just Ronnie being Ronnie, spoils the game for me
It’s a personality he needs!
Oh, is that it?
The BBC Sport feed made it sound like cured world hunger while giving Cliff Thornburn CPR or something
For those that don’t understand what happened here -
When Ronnie came to the table the black ball was resting in a Divot ever so slightly ‘off’ its official spot
Ronnie then asked the ref to check the black and then when the ball was put on the spot proper, it meant that the Red was on to left corner (a different scenario to how Stuart left the table)
When Ronnie played the shot, the red ball was 100% on ( it wasn’t when he first approached the table) and Ronnie chose purposely not to play the pot… subsequently losing the frame
@thesmithsnerdit was, but we could argue all day. I’m sure the experts watching alongside the former player pundits are all wrong, and should listen to the smiths nerd on such matters 😂
What? The red never went. Ronnie was a dick not a sportsman. And seems to be a bit of a dick of a dick in general these days.
@thesmithsnerd he never took it because that wasn’t the position Stuart Bingham left the table in. When Stuart left the table, the black ball wasn’t in that position. I’m sure you’ve probably not watched the TV footage where the pundits explained all this.
Ronnie chose not to play the pot on the red out of good sportsmanship, because he wasn’t playing the table in the same state that Stuart left it. When Stuart sat at his seat, he left Ronnie snookered on that red, and when Ronnie was asked to play the shot - it was on. Simple as, and of discussion
@thesmithsnerd ‘if it goes, he takes it’ is usually 1000% correct, which is why this is labelled as - and has been called by the experts - an act of sportsmanship
Ronnie was annoyed because the red wasn't on. That's it. Ref should have refused to respot after the first time the cloth was flattened. He's becoming quite tiresome in recent years. Still the best player ever but he's a moaning ***** these days. So glad Williams thrashed him and I hope he loses this tournament too. Maybe he'll give up and go and spend his millions somewhere not annoying up coming snooker players.
Eurosport commentators defo didn’t get the point but surely if the black keeps falling into the indentation then it’s in the correct spot as the indentation was left with the black being in that exact position over and over?
It’s a brand new table. It’s a fault in the slate
Yes exactly. The black likely never left that indentation the whole match, until the ref made sure it was respotted dead on the spot.
The black was in one position when Stuart played the table, and it was moved when Ronnie was asked to play it. That’s why he refused it
They knew
no that's the rules... it must go higher than the black spot in the case that both sides are free ... so if it's rolling 0.5 mm lower but you can spot it 0.5 mm higher then the rules say you do that. Just for your information. IF it rolled 0.5 mm lower but you can only get it 0.6 mm higher THEN you pick the lower. That's why the ref positions it from the top not the bottom. AGAIN just for your information.
@@Dwpinvestigation it is NOT a fault in the slate!! What a stupid comment. For one thing the slates they use are very rigorously quality tested and for a second thing the chances of a slate (that has been very rigorously quality tested) having a fault that corresponds to the EXACT position of the black ball is precisely ZERO.
Em, why's he asking for the black to be repotted when he's a on a red? That's an act of arsemanship, not sportsmanship. Play the balls as they lie.
I know, might have just as well stuck it on the Green spot😊
Because the black was blocking access to the red.
Get on with it. If the ref is satisfied it’s on the spot it’s play on.
Ronnie being an absolute knob more like
Delighted Ronnie lost. His arrogance is off the scale now.
As always Ronnie acting like a kid
Kudos to both
I love when the clickbait comes together. Fire.
That was Ronnie moaning as usual
O’Sullivan crying yet again ….
O' Sulky-van
People are completing getting the wrong end of the stick with this....
The black was placed on the spot, but as there's an indent (due to the number of times the back has been put on the spot), it rocked back. Ronnie saw this and asked the referee if she could respot it. When she did, she also saw that it rocked. It's the referees job to ensure it doesn't, hence why she tried flattening it with her finger, and tool.
Ronnie was NOT being a dick in any way. As it kept happening, he even asked if Bingham wanted to come and check and he wanted him to see exactly what was going on. After repeated attempts, Desi said she spotted it fine and all was okay. But as Ronnie could then see the red "too easily" to pot, he felt he was getting an unfair advantage e.g. he still wasn't 100% sure it was on its spot.
As Neil Robertson said...Ronnie is playing safe even though he could pot the red. It's a truly magnificent piece of sportsmanship.
Watch the BBC commentary with Neil Robertson as it's far more insightful than this.
He could not see the potting angle even at the end. The "piece of sportsmanship" was actually the only choice he had
@@gabrielc6252 He could. You could clearly see the difference between when the ref first respotted it, and the gap at the end. All he needed to do was use a touch of right-hand side and he can pot it. Neil Robertson in commentary said he could get through to it, and Ronnie said he could pot it, but repeatedly said he wasn't comfortable playing the pot.
@@BenSmith-ss6gg if that is true, then it is good that he did not do it. He bullied the ref into placing the black off that indent, which was the spot
@@gabrielc6252 Read my top comment again...no he did not. Both Robertson and Parrot said so too.
Alex Higgins would have cleared the table by this time...best player of All time and most exciting
That was a load of bullshit
I totally agree with you. what a waste of time. Ronnie is the GOAT of snooker and i hope he gets his 8th win but sometimes he behaves like a complete twat, sorry, but i`ve said it now!
Ronnie plays a bad positional shot then blames the ref lol 😂
Actually Ronnie is meditating - "can i make the 8th this year? it is not meant to be"
Ronnie often ends up being petty when he knows he's going to lose.
The commentator is clueless.
Eurosports for ya. As a Dutchy I gotta listen to the Dutch speaking commentator who is even worse than these guys can you imagine.
Always watch eurosport on mute.
@@bjrnchrstn Love the Netherlands and I’m not being to hard on the commentator. I’ll try with the sound off and let them earn their money in peace then.👍
no he isn't Dale knows his stuff
@@TicTac2 Dominic Dale knows his table and can enlighten us.
Dale is good
Ronnie has spent too long in Saudi Arabia and it shows with his repeated disrespect of this female referee.
All those attacking the title of this vid & also Ronnie, have got things very wrong indeed.
What happened was this.....
Ronnie could've actually potted the red here, but he'd noticed that if the black was placed 100% correctly, the red wouldn't be on. He didn't want to take advantage of this & so decided to play a safety shot instead.
Neil Robertson actually said, “If he plays safe here this will be probably the greatest bit of sportsmanship I have ever seen in any sport.”
Maybe get your facts straight b4 having a go at people...?
In what other sport do the players change the refs mind? Get on with it Ronnie. I hate it when he's like that.
The red is NEVER EVER on
Knob!
The red clearly potted. In the end there. Stevie wonder could see that. But that wasn't the setup when Bingham left the table so Ronnie refused to pot the red its called sportsmanship and the ref is incompetent
Didn't look like it potted to me. He would have had to bend the cue ball slightly and I'm not sure he had the room to play with to do that at all comfortably.
It did pot and clearly there was a few millimetres gap between the lines which at that distance was more than enough to pot the red but that wasn't the setup so he refused to take it on.
Wrong
@@WayneDutton-l5u evidently not wrong
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Sportsmanship ? NO he was trying to bully ref into moving black so he could pot red , Bingham was more sporting in saying do it then
Absolutely 💯
Sportsmanship ?
Behave he was trying to cheat.
He's a brat.
The commentators are bias towards ronnie...!!
From that camera angle it looks like he could probably hit the red full in the face. Don’t think he was ever cutting that back into the pocket
Simple - Ronnie doesn't need to, or want to cheat, so if he saw the red was on, then it was on. Bingham agreed. That half millimetre is impossible to see on TV, so people saying it was not on, or even was on, have really no idea what they are talking about. I trust Ronnie's judgement, and after so much was made of getting the black correctly on the spot, taking the safety - was more a matter of principle. I'm not sure it's the greatest bit of sportsmanship, more like Ronnie making a point to the ref.
JOKE OF THE CENTURY !!!! 🤣Ronnie and sportmanship ?!! NO, he's a great player but in terms of manner he's one of the worst !!
Snooker needs to bring in some basic tech to sort out this re spotting of a ball. Ipads with remind on the `spot ` to show both players and get on with the game. £99 in Curry`s!
To be honest the ‘ amazing sportsmanship ‘ was not mentioned by Dale or Yates. This all comes from Neil Robertson on bbc
The real q is was Ronnie annoyed at being adament the red could pot then after realising he couldn’t , played safe
Or did it pot and Ronnie decided to display amazing sportsmanship . Ronnie is known to not snookering an opponent if he gets a lucky fluke .
Why did he ask for it to be respotted to make it pottable just to refuse the pot when it allegedly was potable? Attention seeking.
The two commentators didn't understand what they were watching
This is silliness. As was the exchange with the ref about the open door, and his miscalculation when he wellied that yellow. This was not a happy Ronnie. He wasn't in the right frame of mind at all. Stuart didn't beat Ronnie. Ronnie beat Ronnie.
Agree with every word.
Did Ronnie end up winning that frame?
This was the greatest act of sportsmanship I've ever seen. The red was clearly portable yet O'Sulican didn't want to gain an unfair advantage over his opponent and refused the pot. The attitude of referee Desislavka was hugely disrespectful to the GOAT.
Thought he could make Desi look bad and still win, got what he deserved, fair play to Stuart Bingham, delighted he beat the unsporting moaner
Commentator didn't understand what were happening there, he refuse to pot the red as an act of sporsmanship.
Seems a few people on these comments don’t understand it either 😂
Пол дня собирался ударить и по факту удар был таким (единственным), как бы не стоял черный ( +-мм) он просто оттягивал свой проигрыш
The opposite of sportsmanship. I’m a fan of Ronnie but he was definitely trying to intimidate the ref and gain an advantage.
Well done ref
Red can clearly be potted after the final re spot as it didn’t roll back. Sportsmanship is clear
he can't get to the potting angle
Commentators have no idea what is going on
bollocks. The tendency is for the ball to roll towards the centre of the divet, if anything the ball was always respotted too low or possibly the ball was always on the right place until the ref flatten it out.
If ronnie takes a crap on the table, the commentators would praise ronnie for taking the best looking piece of crap ever.
This is pure psychological terror. Sometimes Ronnie can be a downright sadist. The older he gets, the worse it gets.
poor old rotten ron his head as gone
Lol getting found out by Bingham, he is just trying to be awkward to take the pressure off himself because he knows he is bottling it
and haters gonna hate.
Fantasma O'Sullivan. Ha ha ha ha ha, per xuleria i no saber perdre, au cap a casa mal perdedor.
If ronnie shit his pants and ate it the crucible crowd would applaud
Respect Ronnie as a player but not as a person this wasn't Sportsmanship it was bullying the referee was 100% right not the first time Ronnie has acted this way with referees
I'll tell you what it was, one of the most bizarre pieces of overblown commentary from Robertson, and poor camerawork as the angle they kept showing from behind the pocket was not the potting angle, and a move to the left would have clearly shown what any snooker player knows, that he never had a potting angle and was too close to the black to use side without significant risk.
She IS lovely tho
It wasn't potable, so the sportsmanship thing is bunk
Proper sportsmanship from Ronnie yet again unlikeable other players who win by cheating or by taking bribes and are still playing the game
I think the ref is behaving a little above her station
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