Let's install an unsupported NVIDIA GeForce 7xxx PCI-E GPU in Windows 98!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, I'll show you how to get nVidia 6000 or 7000 series graphics cards working on Windows 98 Second Edition. This method should also work for Windows 95, Windows 98 FE, and Windows Millennium Edition.
Driver link: theretroweb.co...
Patches link: archive.org/de...
Quick summary:
First, we start by patching the nVidia driver 'nvcore.vxd' using ptchnvc.exe.
Next, we patch the WINDOWS/SYSTEM/PCI.VXD file with ptchopt.exe.
We then check for the EOI bug using TESTEOI.VXD. If it's present, add the following line to SYSTEM.INI: [386Enh] DEVICE=FIXINTR.VXD (the .vxd file must be placed in the Windows/System directory).
Lastly, if needed, we can patch the GPU's BIOS itself by flashing it using ptchnvsz.exe."
Oooh I just got the biggest itch to get some old systems out of storage and push this to the limit 💪 kernel extenders, here we come! 😁 thank you for sharing
Just do it! KernelEx might not be necessary for Windows 98 to get a full experience. Although I was thinking to install it today to run F.E.A.R. on this exact configuration shown in the video.
@@O_mores There might be a very slim possibility this opens the door to a BUNCH of (32-bit only ofcourse) games including those retroactively made Windows 7-compatible 🤯 let us know your findings and I'll be sure to share mine once I come around to it 💪
PS I just looked up something else..
"You can't run a 64-bit VM session on a 32-bit processor. However, you can run a 64-bit VM session if you have a 64-bit processor but have installed a 32-bit host OS and your processor supports the right extensions."
that itch just got a whole lot worse for me 😁
@@O_mores on my main I got a prebuilt VM called Maxstalgia with almost 50gigs of win98 content including nested dosbox-in-dosbox vm's just for fun :)
Imagine running 64-bit DX12 titles in a 3D-accelerated win11 VM with '98 as host OS 🤣
Thank you so much for this ❤
No problem 😊
Complimenti!!!
Yes the interrupt fix, I asked on a video a while back if you had used it. The fix has always been a mystery to me, never thought it would be useful and it's not very well documented. It's the only way I could get a first gen i7 system stable.
Yep, I guess the interrupt fix is the most important patch if everything else it's OK.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein looks way better than I remember....
RTWC was released in 2001 but in this video it's rendered with a 2006 card with everything maxed out. It's OpenlGL and Quake 3 engine.
yey! i miss windows xp lol win 98 crashed on me to many times :) i like that computer case its so clean and organised
Most of the time Windows 98 will crash because there is something wrong with your drivers. Also that case it's huge · colossal · enormous · gigantic · humongous · immense · mammoth · massive · monstrous · monumental... :)
50% of the time i use 98 I am restarting the computer
And i have a 7950gt just sitting around. But alas, no pcie platform that has 98se support.
I wonder how I managed not to keep any high end 7900 series cards. And I even had one weird 7950 GX2 card at some point. (these are not working in 98 anyway)
I really need to swap that winfast 7600gto with the 6800gs that i have acquired.
These cards are delivering the same performance. But running a 256bit GPU makes me feel good... :)
7600GT should be a bit faster and draws less current.
super video, Omores. i also got a 7000 seris gpu, 7600GT on AGP. in theory, your solution for W98 should work, even if it's AGP, right? (o sa scriu in ENG d-acum incolo :) )
There is nothing mentioned about AGP vs PCI-E in the R. Loew's documentation, so it shouldn't matter. But the motherboard's own AGP drivers (SIS AGP Gart, VIA 4 in 1 drivers, Intel AGP, ALI Integrated Drive...) can affect the performance and stability.
@@O_mores ty, i'll try it and let you know. cheers
@@O_mores unfortunatelly it didn't work for me. P4P800 board with the INF 5.0.2.1003 installed. after installing the 82.69 drivers, the GPU was not seen and the colors were still in 16 colors. after this, did the patchnvc, the same. i stopped here. also did the nvcheck and said "no patch required". well, it was fun :)
Don't forget ptchopt, according to the manual: "A third Patch is provided to Disable Video Option ROM Configuration. Some BIOS and Graphics Card combinations set an Invalid Option ROM address that confuses the Configurator. * If you cannot Boot Windows in Normal Mode after applying one or both of the above Patches *, or it reports an Error on the Display Driver. This Patch is probably needed. There is no disadvantage to do this Patch if not needed. "
It works, I tested agp 7600gs, 7600gt, 7900gs and more 7-series agp and 7800gtx, 7900gtx, 7900gs pcie cards in windows 98. if it doesn’t work you are doing something wrong. You need the modded 81.98 drivers for all g71 models. For 256mb and below you don’t need rloews nvpatch.
900 fps quake 2 lol
Oh, yeah! Rocket jump is somehow dependent on your frame rate... it can get interesting. :)
8800? :D
Nope, 8800 is a DX10 card with CUDA cores - a different design released after Windows 98 was retired..., so Nvidia didn't bother to create a Windows 9x driver.
@@O_mores :(
Great video! Im building a PCI-E only Win98 PC. Do you only need to Rudolph's patch if your 7000 series card has more than 256mb of video RAM?
Yes. If you use nvcore patch a 512MB card will show as a 256MB card. Most likely the other two patches must be installed as well. (pci.vxd patch and fixintr.vxd) If you patch the card (by flashing the BIOS) all 512MB will be available. Both patches can be used simultaneously.
Forget about patches with ATI Radon cards.™
🎉I have old computer with Windows workstation NT 4
I want to run same Windows on a new computer
Take a look here: th-cam.com/play/PLomaAsb2xNcAHzbyhLMWzhFMnddzVGwWy.html
Lmao I had a 7200 GS once. Absolute trash.
Yep, but hose 7200GS card were cheap, under 50$. " May 8th, 2007: Graphics cards equipped with the NVIDIA GeForce 7200 GS GPU are available today from e-tailers and retailers worldwide at aggressive prices under $50 and are being offered in PCs from leading OEMs and system builders. GeForce 7200 GS is designed to offer a low-cost upgrade from integrated graphics solutions and is built for Microsoft Windows Vista operating system. The NVIDIA GeForce 7200 GS performs up to 50% faster than the latest integrated graphics solutions in common 3D benchmark tests "
I wonder if the Quadro fx5500 with 1GB of ram would work?? 🤔
Quadro FX5500 uses the G71 chip - the same as 7900GS so it should work 100%. But I don't know about 1GB RAM. Theoretically, it should work in 256MB mode after patching the driver.
@@O_mores I'm thinking the same
i have acer aspire 5680 have 7600, but after installing the driver is stop booting
That it is a GeForce GO variant btw, sometimes these mobile variants used slightly modified drivers. Anyway, did you installed everything from the PTCHNVSZ pack? Ptchnvc for nvcore.vxd, ptchopt.exe for pci.vxd and did you add fixintr.vxd entry in system.ini?
Laptop GPUs are using the mobile variant of the desktop GPU with less power consumption. The driver must be aware of this. Probably you are not using the right drivers.
@@adriano90210 this driver say it support my gpu but idk
its need a lot of search if i want to solve this
I need to try that. I have Quatro FX 580 card. I hope it helps.
That card is not supported in 98.
@@foch3 that makes sense now :( What about 8400GS?
@Nuevo_El_Nagual 7000 series cards were the last that anyone has got to work with 3D acceleration.
Quadro FX580 it's a DirectX 10 card with CUDA cores... these cards won't work in Windows 98 since they use a completely new design that emerged after Windows 98 was retired...so nVidia didn't bother to create a Windows 9x driver. They will install with generic 2D drivers: bearwindows.zcm.com.au/vbe9x.htm
i need ask: if we don't use that patchs, the screen can go black?(is what i can get and don't show anything, even after some seconds)
When I was trying to use nVidia cards in Windows 98 without these patches (until September 2019 you had to pay for them) - I was getting mixed results. The same 7600GT card was more stable on some systems and couldn't boot on some other systems. So it depends also on how your BIOS handles the card (what IRQ gets assigned), how the Option ROM is configured and so on... So you might get better results on another configuration. Anyway these patches should solve all these issues.
@@O_mores thanks for all...
maybe you can share, with us, the batch file for install correctly all the patch ;)
seen your video, i must create 1... it will be much more easy ;)
@@O_mores but really thanks for all.. thank you(yes i need these)
I didn't use a batch file, although it is totally doable. The whole process it's not complicated: 1. use ptchnvc to patch nvcore.vxd 2. use ptchopt to patch pci.vxd 3. copy fixintr.vxd into Windows\System - add DEVICE=FIXINTR.VXD in Windows\System.ini under [386Enh].
@@O_mores thanks for all.. and i know i must do on DOS Mode, Safe Mode.. thanks for all
know i need find High Definition audio driver for Windows 98 ;)
thanks
It's written NVIDIA, not "nVidia".
Yes, but for newer products. Originally Nvidia was using "nVidia" logo (still present in the driver's Control Panel at 09:28) and it was perfectly acceptable to use nVidia instead of Nvidia, check this post from 2004 for example: www.techspot.com/community/topics/geforce2-help.13593/
@@O_mores At your timestamp every instance of NVIDIA is written in all caps, like I said.
And fans writing things wrong isn't a new or old thing, it has happened forever.
I was pointing to the nVidia logo image in the upper left corner. :)
@@O_mores Look at 2:20 also. Every written instance of NVIDIA is in all caps.
A logo is a thing on its own, it's just graphics, a picture.
I think both ways are correct unless you are doing a press release or something more official.