Oh man, that 'Out Of The Box' album was an absolute classic. I bought it in Australia in 2004 and took it everywhere with me. Every party i went to i'd throw that CD on and everyone would go wild. Such a great moment in time!
They absolutely are. I had the pleasure of meeting Ed Rush once. Baked is an understatement. He's a very nice fella. He even said my warm up set was good 😂
I really wish that they would have stayed making tunes on the analogue equipment, the tunes today just don't have that original organic sound like from the late 90's.
These guys were smashed as fuck I doubt they would talk about anything sober. Also there is a artist that does tunes for the living and there is a teacher who teaches for the living, two different things. You can bother a artist to teach you about things. He might go out of his way and show you few things but don't ask for too much. Most learned by them selves the ones who leech knowledge should just seek for a different profession. For a hobby I could understand but if you always bother others to learn things that you will cash in then you are in a wrong train. Basics are in school whatever you do afterwards is on you.
I ain't a huge fan of that darker techstep/rolling sound all the time, it's great to drop the odd tune in with a variety of different D+B styles, but I always loved what these guys do. Legends in the game and proper dons of the movement. Respect.
So he doesn't like compressing beats but he clips them with the samplers gain by setting it to 105%? That's compression.I suppose everyone has their way and there are no rules really. Just do what sounds good to you.
No it's not compression, it's clipping, like you said. It kind of does the same thing but you will get clipping artefacts, which WILL change the sound. I don't know what sampler optical was using back then and there might've been a limiter built into it... But normaly you want to avoid clipping at all costs, at least in the digital realm!
@@PetrolAudio assuming that they constantly mention cutting to vinyl, ie analog output, then optical can get away with clipping especially for fast transient stuff like kicks and snares, since it will translate to harmonic distortion. analog systems have +20 dB of headroom
It's a technical used all over the place during the loudness wars. Clipping is quite different from compression and I would say compression changes the tone of a break of single drum hits more than gentle clipping.
"are your ears ringing?" "yeah" and it didnt go away...,,, I put the earplugs in when i went to Valve in newcastle.. i could see them handing out earplugs, i took that seriously, some didnt... its a harsh weird thing to realise your hearing is totally fucked from a night out.
Dumbpublic Hater Most of the oldschool dnb/jungle stuff used sampled breaks- 2nd-generation drum and bass tracks began to create their own breakbeats (eg. Soul Beat Runna).
The unfortunate bit is that now everything they do is on a laptop, should have stuck with the analogue gear guys. Your new tracks, although they are properly made, they sound too shiny, too artificial. No more rich organic raw sound like the older tracks.
XoArK I True, but it seems, at least to me, that making a track on the analogue gear would be more challenging and fun rather than digitally on a laptop which seems too easy. Tunes on a laptop could be made en masse which IMO don't have as much originality to them, like they are forced out to please the masses. It also would seem that using the analogue gear would make you focus and work harder on the track, thus giving it more life. Just my opinions.
Although I agree that most modern DNB tracks sound artificial, I wouldn’t say it's fully due to the lack of equipment. If someone has the right ideas and techniques, they can create masterpieces with limited tech. Most early jungle tunes were made using only an Amiga, give or take a sampler and drum machine.
I can only listen to modern DNB for about 20 mins before I'm bored as it all has that linear beat that is too repetitive. The early stuff had a lot more rhythm, grit, sub and fury.
The irony of when Optical is talking about the oscillators being replaced the sound will not be the same anymore, now his tunes are so much LESS impactful and watered down to his 90s/early 2000 tunes
@@EdSoloUK of course it's compression. It's just ugly & distorted. The fact that he's not using an 1176 is irrelevant. Hard Clipping *IS* Compression when you do it in this context, for this reason. Compression is Amplification Limiting. Hence "Limiting Amplifier". A compressor does exactly this... with an Envelope, thus smoothing the Peaks as it lowers them. You seem to have completely missed the point. Id est he'd be better off using a Compressor.
@@M.H.Margin another one foreigner trash who don't speak English but thinking understand nuanced comment in English. Learn to read first moron. You, like the guy above don't understand what I'm saying. Fuck off!
@@CaalamusTube you are being pretty rude dude...and for those interested....clipping in a digital sense gives you new inharmonics folded down from the Nyquist Limit of 22.1khz which not only hard clips the peaks but also adds new frequencies which can be useful....a Limiter when working properly just flat tops the signals peaks without the extra distortion and a compressor has no use at all in getting a completely clipped level signal as it reacts to the Threshold setting by triggering an envelope to shape the volume after the Threshold is triggered which can never react instantly like a hard clip would. They all have their uses....I think get a lot of clipping done first then using a volume envelope to add shape is the best way to go....all three ways to shape volume are very different sounding in their own way. ;0)
@@MichaelSmith-nz1jo i watched these guys on 1999 millennium new years.. 4 hours of their music on dubplate and release sounded like one long 4 hour track the most boring experience ever, total turd ! same drums sounds, patterns ! looking pack they were total bollox... all the original jungles head were like this is over = done ! jungle is dead
![Ed Rush & Optical - Essential Mix [1999-02-07] bbc radio one](/img/n.gif)
Oh man, that 'Out Of The Box' album was an absolute classic. I bought it in Australia in 2004 and took it everywhere with me. Every party i went to i'd throw that CD on and everyone would go wild. Such a great moment in time!
Absolute Legends.
I like the fact these guys don't take things toooo seriously.
Cos they're stoned AF. 😀
legends
legend
HEAD RUSH AND POPSICKLE ARE LEGENDS
Red bush
These guys are high AF
Well yeah;D
@@mastertarpolin Clearly, yes
I remember getting baked with these two back in the day, in Acton.
They absolutely are. I had the pleasure of meeting Ed Rush once. Baked is an understatement. He's a very nice fella. He even said my warm up set was good 😂
Love these fellas. Cracks me up as well- every video I find on 'em it's a game of 'Spot the Spliff'.
I really wish that they would have stayed making tunes on the analogue equipment, the tunes today just don't have that original organic sound like from the late 90's.
Chase and status are dropping some Bangers
Ill bring it back
Metalheadz keeping it real still
Their last album 'No Cure' was amazing in my opinion
I agree with you. Most modern DnB tracks sound flat compared to the early ones.
These two are responsible for some of the most heinous bangers known to man ❤
Check out how much that OSCar keyboard sells for these days. There were only about 2000 made. Wonder what happened to it
2:00 is Generation Dub - Atomic.
Love the lighting in this interview haha - sort of, phantom of the opera / shadow lurker vibes.
so true what they say about the equipment, dnb today just doesnt have same edge as it did in the 90s and the equipment is a big reason for that
Remains the masterclass. Priceless tips and tricks ..
"look at that mahogany" PMSL
Their wormhole LP is the greatest ...heavy af but not overdone .
turgid fungus I just listened to their virus vaults release, fn epic
I like in the present much more than I did in the past.
love how these guys are happy to open up shop and discuss their equipemnt and tehcniques, not like aphex twins stingy attitude form what ive read.
ya, it's interesting... a lot of artists that do these videos keep it very surface level. it depends on who it is
These guys were smashed as fuck I doubt they would talk about anything sober. Also there is a artist that does tunes for the living and there is a teacher who teaches for the living, two different things. You can bother a artist to teach you about things. He might go out of his way and show you few things but don't ask for too much. Most learned by them selves the ones who leech knowledge should just seek for a different profession. For a hobby I could understand but if you always bother others to learn things that you will cash in then you are in a wrong train. Basics are in school whatever you do afterwards is on you.
aphex talked and still talks tons tho mostly on forums and weird obscure blogs if you know where to look
Just got this Album on US Import. The DVD is both PAL & NTSC, I don't think the people of Wilmslow, Cheshire appreciate the mix cd as much as I do.
haha awesome interview!!Can't believe I never saw this!
Roni Size - Watching Windows (Ed Rush & Optical remix). One of the best remixes ever.
wow i thought i watched every dnb studio video, but this pops up to my feed, great!
this is just a clip from the DOCO in the studio 2004...
They seem like cool dudes
Love this
I ain't a huge fan of that darker techstep/rolling sound all the time, it's great to drop the odd tune in with a variety of different D+B styles, but I always loved what these guys do. Legends in the game and proper dons of the movement. Respect.
Solid gold, cheers!
So he doesn't like compressing beats but he clips them with the samplers gain by setting it to 105%? That's compression.I suppose everyone has their way and there are no rules really. Just do what sounds good to you.
I guess he'd rather limit just the peaks, than having ar envelopes all over everything.
No it's not compression, it's clipping, like you said. It kind of does the same thing but you will get clipping artefacts, which WILL change the sound. I don't know what sampler optical was using back then and there might've been a limiter built into it... But normaly you want to avoid clipping at all costs, at least in the digital realm!
maybe he means don't use compression on the samples, I mean as you're putting the break together, before the master?
@@PetrolAudio assuming that they constantly mention cutting to vinyl, ie analog output, then optical can get away with clipping especially for fast transient stuff like kicks and snares, since it will translate to harmonic distortion. analog systems have +20 dB of headroom
It's a technical used all over the place during the loudness wars.
Clipping is quite different from compression and I would say compression changes the tone of a break of single drum hits more than gentle clipping.
Gonna start producing d'n'b under the name "Spiky Bits"
Im going for Mahogany Sides
*Spikey Brits
Popped to the Wormhole LP release party back in the day at The End, 2 step all night, no funk, dull as fuck & I retired myself from DnB.
Somebody needs to come and post as many tracks as possible from what's used in that video.
Everything here is from their "Out of the Box" mix CD from 2004, including this video
"are your ears ringing?"
"yeah"
and it didnt go away...,,,
I put the earplugs in when i went to Valve in newcastle.. i could see them handing out earplugs, i took that seriously, some didnt... its a harsh weird thing to realise your hearing is totally fucked from a night out.
L E G E N D S 🙌
Thumbnail looks like Ed Rush saying "Wot the fuck are u on about mate?"
Bass face 🌟😋
i like dem man
looool
Les yeux reflètent leur nuits blanches.
One of my friends used to sell them weed back around the year 2000, he said optical never passed the spliff once lol
omg they use cool edit pro! lol i still use that to do quick edits
5 minutes in track id?
turn the lights on... please.... kkk
What for? so you can see skrillex pressin colourful buttons lol
tiago garbin Why do people type "kkkk" all the freaking time?? What does that mean??
@@k.c.lejeune6613 klukluxklan
*GOOD CHOONS MATE*
Song at 00:18 ??
did you find this? want to ID that as well...
@@CS-mo7xp marcus intalex-zumbar
marcus intalex-zumbar
@@vlad-jq1qi cheers!!
“Spiky bits”is that the correct technical term?
Oh how times have changed..
Salute from jersey and nyc bitches!!!!
Best fat beats technique ever. Normalize to 105% to clip ... AH AH AH - lols Optical.
2nd tune?
8:24 track ID anyone???
Just relax by Dillinja/Capone
@@krisis999 Thanks a lot mate!!!!
Fucking superb. Really good insight. Love it.
What's the tune at 1.09
1:55 makes no sense. lol bell pieces
Still too this day listen to Ed rush optical one nation and heat 99
Optical sounds like the guy in that Adam Buxton/Richard & Judy ‘You Say, We Pay’ sketch 😂
what is the tune at 6 mins????
Don't know if you've found it since asking, but DJ Friction & Nubalance - Bogeyman.
See Alien Girl ☣️
Steel yard tomorrow 🎶🎼🎵😉
WHAT ABOUT DOING OWN SOUNDS AND BREAKS?
Dumbpublic Hater Most of the oldschool dnb/jungle stuff used sampled breaks-
2nd-generation drum and bass tracks began to create their own breakbeats (eg. Soul Beat Runna).
I didn't know David Platt from Coronation Street made DnB! It's a revelation!
mbbx5aw2 That's what DJ Hype calls Crissy Criss, hahaha!
lol!
The unfortunate bit is that now everything they do is on a laptop, should have stuck with the analogue gear guys. Your new tracks, although they are properly made, they sound too shiny, too artificial. No more rich organic raw sound like the older tracks.
Endo Cannabinoid Their production style changed. They could create stuff like that again, it just takes a certian attitude and mindset.
XoArK I True, but it seems, at least to me, that making a track on the analogue gear would be more challenging and fun rather than digitally on a laptop which seems too easy. Tunes on a laptop could be made en masse which IMO don't have as much originality to them, like they are forced out to please the masses. It also would seem that using the analogue gear would make you focus and work harder on the track, thus giving it more life. Just my opinions.
Endo Cannabinoid I don't mean to appear rude, but do you make music?
Although I agree that most modern DNB tracks sound artificial, I wouldn’t say it's fully due to the lack of equipment. If someone has the right ideas and techniques, they can create masterpieces with limited tech. Most early jungle tunes were made using only an Amiga, give or take a sampler and drum machine.
I can only listen to modern DNB for about 20 mins before I'm bored as it all has that linear beat that is too repetitive. The early stuff had a lot more rhythm, grit, sub and fury.
sum glitches in the beginning i recon
wicked!
great video...cheers ! :D
Ledgends
Who is Ed Rush & Optical???
+GIIGF what kind of joke is this?
lol
GIIGF the guys your dad wishes he was
GIIGF the guys your dad wishes he was
Are you serious????
Shite! They are awesome! And I have just become aware of that Matrix is Optical’s brother lol.
Hahahahaha love the last question
Top geezas
I caught at least two Sub Focus tunes being played in this.
Do you know the name of the one at 5:00? I can't quite remember. It's not swamp thing?
@@BeastmanG that's Ed Rush & Optical - Bacteria (Pendulum Remix)
Ignore me, it's Bacteria Pendulum remix
@@cun7us Thanks!
The irony of when Optical is talking about the oscillators being replaced the sound will not be the same anymore, now his tunes are so much LESS impactful and watered down to his 90s/early 2000 tunes
The Mormon is evil kid..
That intro, seisures here we go, call the ambulance
5:05 is a horrifying story
"I don't use compression" ...proceeds to
describe compressing the signal in a
roundabout, hard to control way :P
Cutting of a peak is not compression, its more like hard clipping which does not change the sound like compression does.
@@EdSoloUK of course it's compression.
It's just ugly & distorted.
The fact that he's not using an 1176 is irrelevant. Hard Clipping *IS*
Compression when you do it in this context, for this reason.
Compression is Amplification Limiting. Hence "Limiting Amplifier".
A compressor does exactly this... with an Envelope, thus smoothing
the Peaks as it lowers them.
You seem to have completely missed the point.
Id est he'd be better off using a Compressor.
@@CaalamusTube another one smart ass who don't even feel a difference between clipping, compressing, limiting and distorting...
@@M.H.Margin another one foreigner trash who don't speak English but thinking understand nuanced comment in English.
Learn to read first moron.
You, like the guy above don't understand what I'm saying.
Fuck off!
@@CaalamusTube you are being pretty rude dude...and for those interested....clipping in a digital sense gives you new inharmonics folded down from the Nyquist Limit of 22.1khz which not only hard clips the peaks but also adds new frequencies which can be useful....a Limiter when working properly just flat tops the signals peaks without the extra distortion and a compressor has no use at all in getting a completely clipped level signal as it reacts to the Threshold setting by triggering an envelope to shape the volume after the Threshold is triggered which can never react instantly like a hard clip would. They all have their uses....I think get a lot of clipping done first then using a volume envelope to add shape is the best way to go....all three ways to shape volume are very different sounding in their own way. ;0)
you fckn legends, kings of kings
wtf is up with that intro
these guys killed the D&B scene ; soulless ! glad they got sussed out in the end !
What are you on?
@@MichaelSmith-nz1jo telling the truth ! thats what im on
@@truetothegame2928 please do explain?
@@MichaelSmith-nz1jo i watched these guys on 1999 millennium new years.. 4 hours of their music on dubplate and release sounded like one long 4 hour track the most boring experience ever, total turd ! same drums sounds, patterns ! looking pack they were total bollox... all the original jungles head were like this is over = done ! jungle is dead
@@OpticalVirus BRISTOL; either 99, or 00 !,, ya just frigged yaself !