Thanks for the real-life tests. Mb pro 16" i9 has enough power for all my design and video editing needs, but what annoys me about it - is the 3 hour battery life, and what it gets hot and noisy under load. So I'm thinking of upgrading to an m3 pro or m2 max.
Same here, I have the maxed out i9 Mb pro. I do a lot of video editing and I also work a lot of with AI. At the moment the Intel Mac is alright for my workload, I just wish I had more RAM. I’d say wait for one more generation. There is also quite a serious physical bug in all M series Mac that allows for side channel attacks. I’d wait for Apple to address and fix it first before buying an M series Mac.
I’ve still got and daily use my mid-2018 i9. I’ve been wanting an M chip since the M1 was revealed but am very against replacing something perfectly ok unless it’s truly needed, and for me it wasn’t. But I was astonished by the M3 when I tried out an M3 at an Apple Store in December or so. I almost upgraded right then and there. But waited, then the M4 was put into the iPads for some reason. It’s without question I’m getting the M4 when it comes out. Period. I’ve been sparing with my money so that there’s no struggle. My i9 is constantly still getting warm when I’m simply running more than a couple tabs on Safari, and getting hot and battery drained when I’m running an actual program like Photoshop. I’m too excited to make that switch in 2 months and have an Apple Silicon on my desk.
I can say without a doubt the biggest improvement from the i9 to the M3 was the temperatures. I still to this day don't recall the fans ever having to kick into high gear like they did on the i9 when doing any task. The machine just isn't thermally efficient. You'll love swapping to the M4 when it comes out. I'm in the same boat as you, I'm not one to replace stuff either, (I'm still using a bent iPhone 12 with the screen shattered from dropping a weight on it haha) but the M3 simply was too good to pass up and when doing rendering and working with cinema camera footage, it's a beast.
Great video, im changing my i9 for an M3 and I was thinking it isnt worth it until I see your video. The i9 is unusable thinking in a portable device, it dies after 2-3 hours of use in profesional tasks, I hope M3 will be much better.
Glad I could be of help, the battery life of the M3 is absurd compared to the i9, I could go through almost a week of class forgetting about charging it before I’m notified the battery is low, and even when doing things such as editing 4K video, not only does it stay cool, but the battery doesn’t drain that much faster than if it wasn’t. You’ll love it.
Idk i got M3 2024 Macbook air but thinking to return it. Its only 8gt, renders pretty ok but 8gt just not enough plus i hate than m-series doesnt support eGPUs.. So maybe getting a 2019 Macbook Pro with 32gt Ram instead 🤔
Well I don’t think it’s necessarily a good comparison to compare an entry level M3 to a top end i9 MBP. I also can’t recommend the Intel Macs given they’re almost 5 years old and how thermally inefficient they are. You’ll hit thermal throttling well before you can utilize the full potential of whatever GPU you’re thinking of connecting to it.
@@eternaliam any alternatives to eGPUs for M series macs that come to mind? Other than cloud rendering. I mean, i just cant afford atm a 32gt M3, not even the 16gt, just got this one because it was on special. But yea +200e for the extra ram is pretty lame 😫 If you were to choose between 8gt brand new M3 or an i9 32gt with 3D rendering in mind, which would be a better pick?
@@alediazofficial2562 If your renders are taxing enough to simply not complete on the M3 due to running out of RAM, I still couldn’t justify downgrading to an Intel machine. Simply put, if they’re possible to do on the Apple Silicon machine, keep the M3. If not, find a temporary solution and replace your M3 with a higher spec Apple Silicon Mac later on. (Cloud rendering) New M4s with 16GB of RAM at the base model are expected at the end of the month, and trading in an Apple Silicon model will yield a higher trade in value than whatever used Intel Mac you find. I can’t in good conscience recommend the Intel MacBook simply because it’s just a straight up inferior machine, and you’ll likely end up having to sell it anyways once A: Apple releases new OS versions for ARM only, or B: Thermal throttling becomes too big of an issue. It’s not an ideal answer, I know. But it seems the workload you have exceeds the capabilities of the machine you bought.
@@eternaliam Hey I appreciate the response and indeed useful insight. I had ignored the heating issues, I had only previously owned a mid 2011 iMac and late 2013 macbook air, these heated up quite a bit, I assumed later iterations would fix this. Guess they kinda did now with M series. I was also considering of just to keep the 2024 m3 macbook air till I save an extra 800€, sell or trade in and get a 16gt one. Thanks again for the reply and the videos!
M3 Pro, I did and they were much the same results. Thermal throttling hurt the Intel Mac in almost every circumstance and the times that it didn’t the M3 Pro still completed the tasks quicker.
My new M3 Air's Geekbench 6 CPU score was almost double my 2019 iMac 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 with Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB However when I ran the GPU test my i9 scored 49996 in the OpenCL test, while my M3 scored 31827. That does not make sense to me. Is the i9’s Pro Vega that much better than the M3’s video?? Metal scores were even worse for the M3 at 49285 vs 73292 for the i9. What gives?
This is correct, Apple Silicon takes Intel Macs to school on compute and video encoding. GPU wise it still has a long ways to go. Slowly but steadily Apple is making gains but an M3 Air with no fan is absolutely not going to beat a desktop class Vega 48 in graphics performance.
im about to get rid of my i7 macbook pro and im thinking on getting the regular M3 macbook pro. is the regular M3 a good upgrade or would i need to get the M3 Pro model?
Hey I am getting 2019 MacBook pro at 16gb ram and 1tb ssd i9. At 600 usd. With adaptor. Do you think it's worth it? I will be using mac for the first time in life and was using i7 8 gen windows. Main purpose is to learn coding and ultimately develop skills into machine learning. Kindly reply quickly.
Should do you perfectly fine. For a first Mac I’d say it’s a good purchase because you can swap to windows and have full compatibility if you decide macOS isn’t for you. To introduce you to the Mac ecosystem I’d say it’s worth it.
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thanks for the video! I'm about to throw my 2019 intel mb pro to get an m3 pro and this helps a lot. however I'm extremely disappointed with the results. considering apple's claim with x11 more performance '2 years ago', in a real world usage (illustration, animation, video editing) its just 2-3 times at most, and keep in mind older mb thermal throttles in 15 seconds and runs at 0.8 ghz at most.. if only I didn't have to use a macbook😕
No problem! Also yea I agree, the only measure I can see the M3 Pro providing 11x more performance over the i9 is the battery life under load or in performance per watt. As far as raw computing goes, the Intel isn't nearly that slow, but the thermal throttling kills it.
Will do! That's the next thing I was planning to invest in to get better looking content. The camera I'm using is pretty dated so been kinda juggling between those. Thanks for the tip!
(Also, what about GPU-intensive tasks like gaming/game dev/CG/Archi Viz.)? Did you mention what GPU your i9 has? Do you know/care what a diff that makes?
Game support at the time of making this video for Apple Silicon was incredibly sparse and was unable to create a true Apples to Apples comparison. I did talk about the GPU's and the difference it makes. I'm not sure if you skipped that part but it was one of the opening things I talked about with both computers.
The Intel laptops are next to unusable. IDK how we ever suffered with them, the tech feels like it's from the 90s now. Mine's on my lap right now, it's a literal space heater and the battery lasts a few hours at best. The whole thing is hot to the touch just watching TH-cam. The M1 I have never even spins up the fans unless I'm cranking out some hardcore processor-intensive work.
OH WHAT A SURPRISE! You mean the latest and greatest mac outperformed something that is 5 years old?? You mean a $2500 brand new machine outperfromed a $700 used one?? C'mon dude...
The Intel is a 2019. Apple in their keynote was really trying to sell the M3 to those that haven’t already moved from Intel to Apple Silicon, so thought I’d display the difference in performance. I doubt anyone expected the i9 to actually beat the M3.
@@eternaliam thanks for your prompt response. Last week my Macbook Pro 16 M1 MAX passed aways due to GPU and I am currently looking for a new Mac. I have been always fashinating by the 2019 with touchbar you have. I found it for 1k euro alternatively there is the M3 MAX for 4k. I'd like to know more... can please tell me more? Thanks!!!
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Thanks for posting this mate. Was searching forever to find these models in a comparison video!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the real-life tests. Mb pro 16" i9 has enough power for all my design and video editing needs, but what annoys me about it - is the 3 hour battery life, and what it gets hot and noisy under load. So I'm thinking of upgrading to an m3 pro or m2 max.
Same here, I have the maxed out i9 Mb pro. I do a lot of video editing and I also work a lot of with AI. At the moment the Intel Mac is alright for my workload, I just wish I had more RAM. I’d say wait for one more generation. There is also quite a serious physical bug in all M series Mac that allows for side channel attacks. I’d wait for Apple to address and fix it first before buying an M series Mac.
I did the upgrade from same machine to m3 max…..and it’s amazing. Not one regret! New machine doesn’t overheat, and handles every task with ease!
get the m2 max the gpu is better
Wait for m4 series of chips.
@@SirusStarTV He-he. Already got m3 pro 16" with 32 of RAM and quite satisfied :)
I’ve still got and daily use my mid-2018 i9. I’ve been wanting an M chip since the M1 was revealed but am very against replacing something perfectly ok unless it’s truly needed, and for me it wasn’t. But I was astonished by the M3 when I tried out an M3 at an Apple Store in December or so. I almost upgraded right then and there. But waited, then the M4 was put into the iPads for some reason.
It’s without question I’m getting the M4 when it comes out. Period. I’ve been sparing with my money so that there’s no struggle. My i9 is constantly still getting warm when I’m simply running more than a couple tabs on Safari, and getting hot and battery drained when I’m running an actual program like Photoshop. I’m too excited to make that switch in 2 months and have an Apple Silicon on my desk.
I can say without a doubt the biggest improvement from the i9 to the M3 was the temperatures. I still to this day don't recall the fans ever having to kick into high gear like they did on the i9 when doing any task. The machine just isn't thermally efficient. You'll love swapping to the M4 when it comes out.
I'm in the same boat as you, I'm not one to replace stuff either, (I'm still using a bent iPhone 12 with the screen shattered from dropping a weight on it haha) but the M3 simply was too good to pass up and when doing rendering and working with cinema camera footage, it's a beast.
Great video, im changing my i9 for an M3 and I was thinking it isnt worth it until I see your video. The i9 is unusable thinking in a portable device, it dies after 2-3 hours of use in profesional tasks, I hope M3 will be much better.
Glad I could be of help, the battery life of the M3 is absurd compared to the i9, I could go through almost a week of class forgetting about charging it before I’m notified the battery is low, and even when doing things such as editing 4K video, not only does it stay cool, but the battery doesn’t drain that much faster than if it wasn’t. You’ll love it.
Idk i got M3 2024 Macbook air but thinking to return it. Its only 8gt, renders pretty ok but 8gt just not enough plus i hate than m-series doesnt support eGPUs.. So maybe getting a 2019 Macbook Pro with 32gt Ram instead 🤔
Well I don’t think it’s necessarily a good comparison to compare an entry level M3 to a top end i9 MBP.
I also can’t recommend the Intel Macs given they’re almost 5 years old and how thermally inefficient they are. You’ll hit thermal throttling well before you can utilize the full potential of whatever GPU you’re thinking of connecting to it.
@@eternaliam any alternatives to eGPUs for M series macs that come to mind? Other than cloud rendering. I mean, i just cant afford atm a 32gt M3, not even the 16gt, just got this one because it was on special. But yea +200e for the extra ram is pretty lame 😫 If you were to choose between 8gt brand new M3 or an i9 32gt with 3D rendering in mind, which would be a better pick?
and good point about the heating, it is true, intel macs do heat up quite a bit especially during rendering 🤔
@@alediazofficial2562 If your renders are taxing enough to simply not complete on the M3 due to running out of RAM, I still couldn’t justify downgrading to an Intel machine. Simply put, if they’re possible to do on the Apple Silicon machine, keep the M3. If not, find a temporary solution and replace your M3 with a higher spec Apple Silicon Mac later on. (Cloud rendering) New M4s with 16GB of RAM at the base model are expected at the end of the month, and trading in an Apple Silicon model will yield a higher trade in value than whatever used Intel Mac you find.
I can’t in good conscience recommend the Intel MacBook simply because it’s just a straight up inferior machine, and you’ll likely end up having to sell it anyways once A: Apple releases new OS versions for ARM only, or B: Thermal throttling becomes too big of an issue.
It’s not an ideal answer, I know. But it seems the workload you have exceeds the capabilities of the machine you bought.
@@eternaliam Hey I appreciate the response and indeed useful insight. I had ignored the heating issues, I had only previously owned a mid 2011 iMac and late 2013 macbook air, these heated up quite a bit, I assumed later iterations would fix this. Guess they kinda did now with M series. I was also considering of just to keep the 2024 m3 macbook air till I save an extra 800€, sell or trade in and get a 16gt one. Thanks again for the reply and the videos!
Quick, simple and easy to digest. Good video!
Thank you!
Did you run any other tests between the 2 macs. Also was that the m3 pro or max ?
M3 Pro, I did and they were much the same results. Thermal throttling hurt the Intel Mac in almost every circumstance and the times that it didn’t the M3 Pro still completed the tasks quicker.
My new M3 Air's Geekbench 6 CPU score was almost double my 2019 iMac 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 with Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
However when I ran the GPU test my i9 scored 49996 in the OpenCL test, while my M3 scored 31827. That does not make sense to me. Is the i9’s Pro Vega that much better than the M3’s video?? Metal scores were even worse for the M3 at 49285 vs 73292 for the i9. What gives?
This is correct, Apple Silicon takes Intel Macs to school on compute and video encoding. GPU wise it still has a long ways to go. Slowly but steadily Apple is making gains but an M3 Air with no fan is absolutely not going to beat a desktop class Vega 48 in graphics performance.
@ Finally an answer! Thank you. Would it be safe to say the M3 7
Would it be safe to say that the M3 Pro and M4 Pro models would out perform the Vega 48 ?
So the newer device performs better?
correct! 👍
im about to get rid of my i7 macbook pro and im thinking on getting the regular M3 macbook pro. is the regular M3 a good upgrade or would i need to get the M3 Pro model?
M3 would do you fine. It all comes down to what you use it for so mileage may vary.
Hey I am getting 2019 MacBook pro at 16gb ram and 1tb ssd i9. At 600 usd. With adaptor. Do you think it's worth it? I will be using mac for the first time in life and was using i7 8 gen windows. Main purpose is to learn coding and ultimately develop skills into machine learning. Kindly reply quickly.
Should do you perfectly fine. For a first Mac I’d say it’s a good purchase because you can swap to windows and have full compatibility if you decide macOS isn’t for you. To introduce you to the Mac ecosystem I’d say it’s worth it.
thanks for the video! I'm about to throw my 2019 intel mb pro to get an m3 pro and this helps a lot. however I'm extremely disappointed with the results. considering apple's claim with x11 more performance '2 years ago', in a real world usage (illustration, animation, video editing) its just 2-3 times at most, and keep in mind older mb thermal throttles in 15 seconds and runs at 0.8 ghz at most.. if only I didn't have to use a macbook😕
No problem! Also yea I agree, the only measure I can see the M3 Pro providing 11x more performance over the i9 is the battery life under load or in performance per watt. As far as raw computing goes, the Intel isn't nearly that slow, but the thermal throttling kills it.
hi! I think y should use better lighting.
Will do! That's the next thing I was planning to invest in to get better looking content. The camera I'm using is pretty dated so been kinda juggling between those. Thanks for the tip!
(Also, what about GPU-intensive tasks like gaming/game dev/CG/Archi Viz.)? Did you mention what GPU your i9 has? Do you know/care what a diff that makes?
Game support at the time of making this video for Apple Silicon was incredibly sparse and was unable to create a true Apples to Apples comparison. I did talk about the GPU's and the difference it makes. I'm not sure if you skipped that part but it was one of the opening things I talked about with both computers.
The Intel laptops are next to unusable. IDK how we ever suffered with them, the tech feels like it's from the 90s now. Mine's on my lap right now, it's a literal space heater and the battery lasts a few hours at best. The whole thing is hot to the touch just watching TH-cam. The M1 I have never even spins up the fans unless I'm cranking out some hardcore processor-intensive work.
OH WHAT A SURPRISE! You mean the latest and greatest mac outperformed something that is 5 years old?? You mean a $2500 brand new machine outperfromed a $700 used one?? C'mon dude...
If you believe that there was genuine thought that an M3 Pro would be slower than the Intel Mac then you most likely missed the point of the video.
People like you really gotta touch grass lmao
comparing a 2020 device with a 2024device, great job!
The Intel is a 2019. Apple in their keynote was really trying to sell the M3 to those that haven’t already moved from Intel to Apple Silicon, so thought I’d display the difference in performance. I doubt anyone expected the i9 to actually beat the M3.
@@eternaliam makes sense. Pretty dumb of apple to make that case though
I miss the touch bar
@@fabrizio-6172 Personally all I ever used it for was the volume slider and emoji keyboard, I never found an actual use for it.
@@eternaliam thanks for your prompt response. Last week my Macbook Pro 16 M1 MAX passed aways due to GPU and I am currently looking for a new Mac. I have been always fashinating by the 2019 with touchbar you have. I found it for 1k euro alternatively there is the M3 MAX for 4k. I'd like to know more... can please tell me more? Thanks!!!
nice job，different from the others :V