Hypertune Your Mount for Round Stars (Celestron CGX)

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  • I roll my lab coat sleeves up and risk my equipment to reveal some Celestron CGX Maintenance that could make your stars rounder.
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  • @RaysAstrophotography
    @RaysAstrophotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this video Dylan! There is also one more adjustment besides what you did you may have to check. There are two rollers where the belt is attached. Check the rollers( by looking inside into the gap between the rollers). On the rollers there are two holes that will have screws. If they come a bit loose you also get that shaky movement. Playing with Distance adjustment screws is not easy at all. The way I do, I make it tight. Try to move the mount during the day. And it will create that bounce effect. I then back off 1/16 or may be twice of 1/16. If it works great. I leave it in there.

  • @aronbodi808
    @aronbodi808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1. exactly 10 minutes
    2. humor
    3. astro stuff
    + additional lab coat
    perfect video

  • @ChucksAstrophotography
    @ChucksAstrophotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great vid for those of us trying to do adjustments to the CGX!

    • @TheIronbark
      @TheIronbark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're trying to do adjustments too? Oh man I can't wait to see the outtakes!!

    • @luboinchina3013
      @luboinchina3013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess now it's your turn. We are all waiting for you fixing your EQ6 issue😃

  • @AstroLaVista
    @AstroLaVista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm going to break out the classic now. YOU DESERVE MORE SUBS!!

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha thanks! To be honest I'm surprised I have this many.

    • @AstroLaVista
      @AstroLaVista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DylanODonnell Dude, never say that when there's folks getting millions of subs for playing with kittens. You put real thought, skill and humour into your videos. You're right up there with Astrobiscuit.

    • @jeffreypicard6022
      @jeffreypicard6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. Just don't change what you're doing or how you present it. Too many people change their content to attract more subscribers. I love you just the way you are. Hey, that sounds like a good song title!

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally just bit the bullet and took apart my AZ-EQ6. I was thinking, it either goes wrong and I'll be hitting my head for a year or.. I learn a ton and improve the thing. Luckily it is the latter, mounts really aren't that difficult, but you have to pay very close attention and take a ton of pictures. I cleaned all my gears, used better lube in the right quantities and replaced the standard bearings for better ones. It's been very reliable ever since + I now know what to do to get rid of whatever issue arises. :)

    • @thepacketnarc7634
      @thepacketnarc7634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a fantastic feeling innit ? I have now rebuilt and "hyper tuned" an Advanced GT, an Atlas EQ-G and a CGEM. The CGEM was the hardest of all because it was a crap piece of equipment frankly. Pot metal, errant powder coating on internals, etc. But, the satisfaction of getting everything cleaned, and lubed and properly reassambled and torqued pays dividends when you're chasing an issue with imaging or visual use. At least if you do a good job you know it's not your work that caused it.

  • @claude77573
    @claude77573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The full hypertune process is described in the youtube videos titled "Celestron CGX Mount RA / Tracking Problem" by Dave Compton. He followed suggestions from the company that provides the Hypertune service that they recommend before sending the mount head to them for service.

  • @erinbriggs7220
    @erinbriggs7220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was working on my AVX mount, and Rod from celestron tech said hi! Love those guys at celestron. Thanks again Dylan for being awesome.

  • @HeavenlyBackyardAstronomy
    @HeavenlyBackyardAstronomy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same setup. I will 'carefully' investigate the RA and DEC gears. I would have liked to have seen a 5min or 6min exposure. You are correct about the f/10 greatly amplifying the tracking error ... you got to be spot on with the polar alignment and balance. Thanks for this very useful video Dylan.

  • @stevekaiser4959
    @stevekaiser4959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work explaining adjustments and what to watch as you make adjustments. ANOTHER BIG ITEM to look for on the Cgx mount. BELT TENSION. If it’s too tight, you WILL wear out the bronze bushings on the drive shaft in the drive motor . A lot of detailed information on cloudynights regarding this issue.
    Thanks for your presentations. Always something learned. Take care

  • @nicklazur2264
    @nicklazur2264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Did I get the stars round? I hope so... Otherwise, I'll be PISSED." Loved the ending, haha.

  • @theamazingbritishastronome2253
    @theamazingbritishastronome2253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Dylan! I have been thinking about hypertuning my avx and I am now going to look into that. You and trevor really have informative and enjoyable videos keep up the good work!

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks Amazing Oliver :)

  • @gerryvaldez654
    @gerryvaldez654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great video Dylan. I've had same challenge with my 9.25 EHD w/CGX setup. It was frustrating but finally root caused it to the back focus not being correct. Never tried opening up or tuning the CGX. Cheers

  • @dj554825
    @dj554825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can also say. Highpoint is amazing. Called them as a total noob and they talked me through an issue. They have great support.

  • @henri-julienchartrand3387
    @henri-julienchartrand3387 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great intro and even greater insights about what could cause these stars elongation. I'm lucky to have the manual that includes the care and maintenance sections you mentioned. Thanks again Dylan.HJ. Montreal, Quebec, Canada

  • @TheNarrowbandChannel
    @TheNarrowbandChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video Dylan. It nice to have a good one on this topic finally.

  • @manuelcifuentes7525
    @manuelcifuentes7525 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing!! I just spent the night problem solving elongated stars with CGX. Most likely being flexure at the camera mounting point on guidescope. Good video Dylan.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was *sure* it was flexure. When I finally got OAG working I knew finally it wasn’t.

  • @designsinorbit
    @designsinorbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If I'm ever forced to hang out with a human, I'd choose you, Dylan.

  • @bozho13
    @bozho13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A little trick about the stars - do shorter exposures just for the stars and then replace them in the original image. Some might consider it cheating, I say that's just HDR :) Great video as usual. You always have the perfect mix of humor and astro stuff. And yes I have also tuned my CGX with those screws even though it is still under warranty (which I'm guessing at this point is no longer valid)

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I won't tell Celestron if you won't!

  • @curry7714
    @curry7714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:03 Uh-oh. Don't tell me that's a bald spot.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      NO

    • @kristhompson8112
      @kristhompson8112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DylanODonnell I think I see a Trump.... follicly challenged myself embrace it buddy it comes calling

  • @rodken314
    @rodken314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a PDF of the "collectors item" Celestron Manual that contains the worm gear mesh adjustment google "91530-1_CGX_EQ+Mount+and+Tripod_Manual_5" and it should be near the top of the hits. Daytime adjustment was not too difficult. Both my mounts track a little worse in RA than Dec. In post-processing I generally do a gentle deconvolution with an aspect ratio to match the elliptical stars in PixInsight but I realise that's not everybody's cup to tea. On polar alignment I can't recommend enough PhD2's "Polar Drift Align" where you can use your guidescope. Best channel.

  • @drunk_astronomy
    @drunk_astronomy ปีที่แล้ว

    Too add to what Dylan said WD-40 stands for “Water Displacement 40” only reason why it’s called 40 is because it’s the 40th formulation.
    Great for keeping bike chains from rusting up, but it’s not a lubricant.
    Fun fact it was originally a product sprayed on the atlas rocket to control ice buildup due to the oxygen tank being cold.
    One more thing I love to super lube my mount. lol!

  • @whatmattersmost6725
    @whatmattersmost6725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info Dylan, I have a Celestron CGE mount and at the time was Celestron's best mount, but boy was it built & heavy! Being a newer design it had to go back to Celestron for service common issues, stoped using then last year put on order a CGX mount but the next canceled just to heavy and did not trust that it would be a mount for 10 years and sorry Dylan this reminds me of the lower quality of Celestron. Got an IOption CEM60 way better than any Celestron mount and PEC blows almost all mounts but the AP mounts away. It can hold 60 LBS load (but like all mounts cut in half for Astrophotography) and weighs 27 lbs. Sorry Celestron super long time customer from the Powerstar scope, but not anymore...

  • @robsbackyardastrophotograp8885
    @robsbackyardastrophotograp8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dylan! I've needed this for a while!

  • @elmikol2443
    @elmikol2443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Dylan! I knew a smart guy like you could easily fix his mount. Stars look much better!

  • @jamieamendolagine205
    @jamieamendolagine205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say, that I had an AVX, and thought that I was just terrible at doing astrophotography. Truth is I am. But the entry level AVX was also terrible at doing astrophotography. So I spent quite a bit of time following tutorials, trying to tweak and improve my mount. I learned just how bad the design is, and after 3d printing improvements and pulling my hair out, I bought a better mount, and now I'm really happy. Now I do have to tune and tweak things on occasion because I didn't spend a million dollars, but everything works so much better now. Mine has a spring loaded worm which can be more forgiving, but I do have to tune it on occasion. Luckily it's a Losmandy, so tweaking and tuning is pretty straight forward.

  • @gregmckay666
    @gregmckay666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dylan for doing the video that CELESTRON should have done 3 years ago. ;-)

  • @spookydonkey2195
    @spookydonkey2195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this video almost as much as you love that chair!

  • @77BlackKnight
    @77BlackKnight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Dylan. Now i know how to Hypepertune my CGX in the future if i need one. I hade done it to my AVX and worked like a charm. My AVX fast faulty but with loos gear, and i got it down to about 1 arc second at best. Now i use it for planets, sun and comets. You cant have enoght of mounts acording to Chuck *LOL*

  • @starsips
    @starsips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:21 into the video, took the words right out of my mouth!

  • @scotttracey80
    @scotttracey80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos and sense of humor, the world sure could use millions more like you! I tried to order from High Point Scientific but they refuse to ship to Guam, USA...I have spent a total of ~$10,000.00 USD since then through another company who does ship here.

  • @AstroQuest1
    @AstroQuest1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Dylan, I enjoy watching detailed videos like this. I have a very old Sirius and an Atlas Pro mount neither of which I have done any maintenance on. I have been scared to touch any type of fine astro equipment however, after watching this I feel confident in trying to adjust the mounts should they need it. - Cheers

  • @BKBees
    @BKBees 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The super lube portion was by far my favorite.

  • @Ano_nym122
    @Ano_nym122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my HEQ5 tuned. Like a charme

  • @GoldieJason
    @GoldieJason 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see your update, usually at around 2am UK time - this times' different - 2pm-ish BST! You're up late ;P. Oh that subtle chuckle at "SuperLube" - lol.
    I would max out my Visa to fly to the farthest country, in the darkest corner of the 'round' world and slide down to the deepest hole I can find before I attempt anything like this on my AVX! Keep going bro, another milestone!

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yeh this video took so long to edit I've turned my upload schedule on it's head :) Props for noticing!

  • @Wolfie6020
    @Wolfie6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work Dylan. Half of the fun is tweaking these mounts. Then a quick shot of Jupiter so the wife doesn't think I am nuts.
    Great results on your improved guiding. I don't have a CGX but an AVX benefitted greatly from tweaking the gear mesh.
    I used a wattmeter on the power supply and got the gears as snug as I could without resulting in extra current draw. As soon as the current rose I knew they were too tight so backed it off a fraction Did similar with an AZ-EQ 6. Not a pro, just a tweaker but super happy with the results.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man .. was so overdue... this new scope really made it important heh

  • @CAREFREEOBSERVATORY
    @CAREFREEOBSERVATORY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan Fantastic Video Bro, Luv it, Make's me more comfortable in Purchasing a Plane Wave L-350 Mount for my 16" Meade OTA. & Thank You Very Much for being accessible to your Base! Much Respect to you.

  • @mgmcd1
    @mgmcd1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big fan of the random “jiggery pokery” reference. It was worth the watch just for that. 🤓

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10 years of university paying off there!

  • @thomaspetersen5114
    @thomaspetersen5114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's pretty good results for a bit of fiddling. And no, I did not have the magic manual that explains this procedure,so I went PTMD. Still, no regrets, the ASA runs at 0.3" RMS.
    Thanks for making a video about it, I'll try it out on the cgx myself.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice work! Yeh I figured a bunch of CGX owners would find this interesting.

  • @MattWatsonAus
    @MattWatsonAus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the CGX-L and have likewise tinkered with the Dec and RA gear meshing. I was forced to after my mount developed the well-known and dreaded 'honking' phenomena when slewing. I eliminated the honking and I've improved things a little in terms of tracking, but I think there's a limit to what these mounts are capable of. Having said that, I think it would be great to see more vids of people 'tuning' their CGX/L mounts.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I suspect I will be tuning some more !

  • @tombutts919
    @tombutts919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a Canadian...I can feel the pain of that exchange rate...

    • @davepastern
      @davepastern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's not just the exchange range, local Australian distributors and retailers BADLY price gouge Australians and our government does nothing about it...a point in example, I was looking at buying a Fiio M11pro digital audio player - USD $650 on Amazon, including taxes (retail price). At our current exchange rate, USD $650 is around $930 AUD. Our cheapest retailer in Australia is asking AUD $1299 ($360 more!!!!). A 2nd retailer is asking $1499 ($560 more!). It doesn't cost $300 to post a phone sized object to Australia...that US retail price is probably USD $375 wholesale...so that makes the Australian pricing even more price gouging. This is endemic in Australia, and I see books, Astro gear, hifi gear all suffering from these extremes.
      Our government is protecting local businesses instead of punishing them, and introduced an Internet GST tax to further discourage Australians from buying online from overseas vendors. Many things in Australia you can't even get - Australian distributors hold NO stock, charge exorbitant rip off prices, charge mega shipping prices, and then take 4-6 weeks to get said item in stock after customer orders it...
      I refuse to support local distributors and retailers who engage in such nefarious behaviours, and every other Australian should do the same. Let the local distributors and retailers who do so go the way of the Dinosaurs imho.

  • @jcinaz
    @jcinaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to admit that I like your style.

  • @mauricethethespian8744
    @mauricethethespian8744 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trolled you for a bit but just subbed. Learning a lot from you, amongst others, please keep doing you, lovvviiieeeeee. Oh please tell Bintel to update their calculator to reflect the ZWO ASI2600MC DUUUO. I want that, along with the Hyperstar v4.

  • @yobb89
    @yobb89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice dylan, congrats on the hypertune. iv'e seen your hypertuned star profile and it looks good, a very random patern instead of trailing but also on track, which kinda shows that you are pass the mounts tuneable limitation ie "hypertuned "and now more relying on seeing and pulse correction settings .
    i know something else you could try, setting the worm float if you already haven't , i use a dail indicator that i use for my lathe and i set my worm float to 50 microns play , pretty tight tolerance , i even swaped for better bearings for the worm , most mount manufactures use roller bearings ie the ones simular in skateboards or roller blades , idealy conical bearings would be better for the worm drive to compensate against the load in the horizontal axis .
    I even go as far with my tune to rotate the bad spot of the ra worm wheel disc into a spot that dosn't get used and then permantly lock the clutch and tune the mount on the good areas of the worm wheel . some people lap their worm wheels with grit for hours to get the small error of imperfections out .
    every astronomer enthusiast should learn to tune thier mount , there's a hit or miss in mechanical pression with mass manufacturing especialy on the worm wheel in tracking mounts and the adjustments before it gets sent out , ( i assume most manufacturers give thier mounts a little play for the temperature difference in different regions)
    btw check your tune again in summer incase it's too tight to avoid binding and dammage , the temperature will change your tune in the seasons .

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never heard the term worm float before but it sounds like you're setting the backlash, especially since you mentioned thermal changes and that you used a dial indicator.

  • @gastonmacmillan4849
    @gastonmacmillan4849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @ericthemantis
    @ericthemantis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "and $495 US in Australian, that's about... a million bucks" hahahaha!

  • @lawrencesaville3345
    @lawrencesaville3345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respect! Hypertune seemed to involve 'ceramic' bearings and a lot of other hocus-pocus to achieve many hundreds of $ prices. I took my (very old, pre-loved) Celestrom CGEM mount to bits. Cleaned and lubed the sh*t outta it. Adjusted the 'pinch' on the worm gear then balanced (as best one can with a Newt) and all was a lot better. Who Dares Wins but I wouldn't advise on a new/in warranty mount! Caveat Emptor.

    • @RobB_VK6ES
      @RobB_VK6ES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. The whole ceramic bearing thing is unqualified nonsense snake oil.

  • @trev354
    @trev354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dylan, Great job as always, I always get a great laugh and learn shit at the same time :-) well done

  • @Hot_Sky_Astronomy
    @Hot_Sky_Astronomy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need a video like this for my CGEM II 😪

  • @jodyschultz5870
    @jodyschultz5870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did mine. I think you may find that the best way is to take out any "Play". When you hold the end of the counter balance rod, you may find a slight clunk, clunk around RA. Adjust until it's gone. Do the same for Dec. It's better than trial and error.

  • @frackcenturion
    @frackcenturion 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    best chair in the world while wearing a scientific jacket, um cant argue with that 👍 Thanks Dylan, cool vid

  • @brucedarling4751
    @brucedarling4751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re right - my 2018 CGX manual only has “Storage” on its “Care and Maintenance” page.

  • @jackthompson6192
    @jackthompson6192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job 👍

  • @mode1charlie170
    @mode1charlie170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dylan great video! I hyper tuned my CGEM a while back. I definitely don't recommend it to somebody who isn't mechanically inclined. Celestron does not want you to disassemble their mounts (lots of loctite on screws and nuts). All turned out well just the same. If memory serves me correctly it involved ceramic bearing replacement on worm gears shaft, lots of polishing of the ring gear bushing and teflon spacer installation. One of my complaints about Celestron is the lack of information on how to maintain and service the mounts and the inability to purchase replacement parts. You may get a lot of requests to share that manual with the outdated tuning section....it does not surprise me Celestron took that part out......

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep! The whole page is in the video.. that's all it was.. and it didn't really describe the process I came up with here, just a few lines about those screws!

  • @christosdalamagas5017
    @christosdalamagas5017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:08 now THAT sounded like gagging on to something...great video m8.

  • @KaizanBlu
    @KaizanBlu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for featuring my music in your video :)

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KaizanBlu the pleasure was all mine! Love your work. On high rotation here :)

  • @Ben_Stewart
    @Ben_Stewart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank Christ, I need this for my CGX.

  • @sjgonline
    @sjgonline 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!

  • @RIDDX2010
    @RIDDX2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coool Vlog Man

  • @chunkylover108
    @chunkylover108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video - really enjoyed it. I was just wondering if you’d also tried the new(ish) PPEC guiding algorithm in PHD as an alternative to the normal hysteresis?

  • @RobB_VK6ES
    @RobB_VK6ES 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have done extensive investigation into and tuning to my CGX and concluded it can only track with an accuracy of around 1 arcsec RMS. Out of the factory adjustment and worm shaft bearing preload leaves a lot to be desired and the bronze clutch drums rubbed on the main housings making balancing a challenge. My worms were so tight axially the worm was dragging in the bearings and the bearing fit on the worm shaft was as they say "like a cock in a sock" I measured 0.02mm undersized.
    The main limitation is not so much gear backlash (what Dylan is addressing here) as the location of the motor encoder being on the end of the motor shaft. I suspect Celestron chose this location because they can use a lower resolution encoder. It really should be a high resolution unit on the output of the motor/gearbox, this is why. The CGX motors have a gear reduction box on the output. The backlash in this box is really quite poor to the point where my mount always fails Dec backlash compensation from PHD2. This is because the backlash is so great and PHD2 limits the amount of correction to what they consider practical, the mount thus is in a constant oscillation as PHD2 struggles to keep up. In conclusion I would not recommend this mount for scope of greater than 800mm FL. Oh and finally I feel better qualified than most on this subject as I have a mechanical engineering background rather than the unqualified opinions commonly seen on the net.
    Incidentally Celestron may have removed the adjustment procedure from the CGX manual but it is still present in the CGC-L mount manual. Since the mechanical arrangement is identical between the two mounts you can use the published -L manual for the standard CGX.

    • @BLAZEREN101
      @BLAZEREN101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So in other words don't buy a cgxl? Save up for a planewave?!? haha What mount is the best? Should an aussie company build a better one?

  • @jeffreypicard6022
    @jeffreypicard6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you need to ramp things up to the next level. While the lab coat definitely makes you look smarter, a bow tie would practically make you a genius.

    • @Wolfie6020
      @Wolfie6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a hat with a little propeller on the top would be gold.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hehe would really complete the look

  • @zelodec
    @zelodec 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    my problem is the opposite using Orion atlas mount. My RA sits at ~0.9RMS or less while DEC is always above 1.5RMS even if guiding in once direction only or turned off. Should have invested in 10Micron or Paramount :)

  • @Mistr_A
    @Mistr_A 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There used to be a guy in Melbourne who could retune your mount but he either lost interest or moved onto other things, He used to run Bintel in Camberwell here in Melbourne before they shut up shop and just have the Sydney store, a real bummer.

  • @thepacketnarc7634
    @thepacketnarc7634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @dylan have you ever toyed around with playing back the error correction from PHD Logs ? Perhaps you could work that final bit of predictable PE with that feature ?

  • @ibnulhussaini3791
    @ibnulhussaini3791 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love your content dude! I had to go through this process as well but I wasn't aware of the whole hypertune thing. Bit frustrating doing it in the dark. Ended up losing 2 of those tiny cover crews in the event horizon. I wonder if Bintel offers the hypertune service as well.
    Btw I got a hyperstar for my C11 recently & I'm pretty sure I have the collimation bang on. I noticed that some of the stars are elongated slightly in one corner. Just realised that I hadn't checked to see if the corrector plate itself was centered before setting it all up. Just wondering if this could possibly one of the factors for you as well.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks man! The flaring is coma from the reducer and possibly my back focal distance / arrangement .. the collimation is ok I promise :)

  • @apophis1378
    @apophis1378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan... love your hands-on showing how you actually do things as opposed to other who just talk and wave their arms... that is KUDOS... anyway... hopefully you can weigh in... as I have the C11 Edge and CGX-L - and picked up a lot of great info from you!!!! so the question is... are you happy with the CGX-L that is good enough to image at native 2,800mm focal length (f/10)? many of my friends in the astronomy club with similar gear only image using the reducer at f/7 FL 1,960mm because it's just too challenging to image at 2,800 - what say you... and really what a pleasure to check out your videos!!!

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! The CGX wouldn't do it but the CGX-L certainly will :)

  • @ericemanuelson5128
    @ericemanuelson5128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! P.S please don't advertise High Point Scientific as every time I try ordering new gear lately it's sold out or on back order. Lol Great company with a very helpful staff.

  • @stevecolwill9761
    @stevecolwill9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video again, Dylan. Do you think a pier rather than a tripod, isolated from your observatory floor, would help?

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure it would make any difference to anything except the space in my dome :)

  • @kristhompson8112
    @kristhompson8112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice tune from KaizanBlu brother to round out this vid ....feel for ya and my other brothers in Aussie. It's a real shit about you going back into lockdown not sure if that effects your Fam living the dream in NZ ,

  • @giraoshaw
    @giraoshaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to slap some JDM aftermartket parts on my mount.

  • @franckmalers2299
    @franckmalers2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    link to the pdf with instruction would be greatly appreciated, for my used AVX I'm planning to acquire!

  • @purplesky7893
    @purplesky7893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on the chair

  • @desiertocosmico1841
    @desiertocosmico1841 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Great video Dylan, LOL at the "Adapter 9 USD, Shipping 69 USD" haha as a Chilean (end of the World) its usually like that, Saludos southern hemisphere mate!!

  • @AnkurMishra1990
    @AnkurMishra1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are no service of celestron in India. I had issue with my nexstar 4se but the only solution is to exchange. I bought through b&h and I had to pay for return shipment so I decided to fix scope myself. Lucky issue was only with flip mirror and I able to fix it. Right now it might have issue in tracking but as it's alt az mount can't be sure whether it's desine issue or actual tracking.

  • @ati3x
    @ati3x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These mounts are quite simple in mechanic point of view, if somebody has some "mech" experience. It is quite simplet to take care, or "hypertune" but the kez you must know what you do. I already hypertuned lot of time my first EQ5 mount. But i can say the EQ5 mechanical quality is....... Then I bought an HEQ5 used and my first part was disassemble and cleaned and regreased with super lube. I can say, the HEQ5 way better than EQ5 for mech point of view. But i still not confident with the bearings. These bearins doing the job, quite ok, but i will change these sometimes in the future...
    But every "mech" needs some "take care" does not matter that is CGX, HEQ5, EQ6 or 10 micron...

  • @wadeprunty
    @wadeprunty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was about to do the exact same thing, but Rod at Celestron emailed me and told me that it would void my warranty...like I got the email as I was walking outside to take off the motor/gear covers. So now Celestron has it and is sorting it out. I got so frustrated with it that I bought a Paramount MX+. Now I'm buried in manuals trying to learn TheSkyX.

    • @davepastern
      @davepastern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's just silly. That's like a car manufacturer saying you can't change the tyres cos it'll invalidate the warranty. Celestron has to PROVE that what you've done has contributed to the damage to said mount. It's not up to you to disprove it.

    • @picdragon99
      @picdragon99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      did they fix the mount?

  • @astromansid
    @astromansid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I should send my HEQ5pro to you to get done :D ;) nice work mate, good video too.

  • @nicklloyd9165
    @nicklloyd9165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPER LUBE

  • @apophis1378
    @apophis1378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY useful... now if you can make another video on how to built-up the courage to actually do it yourself that would be great :-)

  • @abdelhadiabdelhadi753
    @abdelhadiabdelhadi753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same exact problem with my old CGEM and even with my brand new cgem II :-(

  • @douweodh4146
    @douweodh4146 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dylan, this video was not meaningless! Question: how long was your time lapse on phd2 and how dit you record it? With the camera on your phone maybe? CS from Holland

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heh thanks! Just screen recording :)

  • @markc7884
    @markc7884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan, doesn't platesolving allow for significantly more precision (and ease of use) over star alignment? You mentioned doing star alignment twice - when platesolving, you can have an iterative process until you are under an error which you define

  • @reidchandler6486
    @reidchandler6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the clear difference, but theres no way I'm opening the eq6r pro😛 Good to know there are 3rd parties for this, if the time comes. For now with the z61 ive been able to get 5 minutes without guiding and stars that look like your before photo..which isnt horrible (at my short focal length) ;) guiding is now set up and awaiting my week off during the perseids peak 📷🔭🌌👍

    • @reidchandler6486
      @reidchandler6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And showing people I know that I can control s*it like this with a computer, eqmod/ascom shout out, they think you're some kind of witch haha

  • @jamesdougan8789
    @jamesdougan8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    g`day dylan great video mate ... you get a lot of condensation in that dome do you think you might have a slight corrosion (notchiness/grinding) in the bearings the main and the motor roller bearings that is giving you the shake from stickion or slight binding i am surprised you don't have wiring problems with all the moisture on the electrical contacts .. have you ever thought about getting a industrial fan( small barrel type) or a carpet dryer to get some air into the dome to keep it dryer inside or maybe a whirligig roof ventilation might help i don't think the damprid is cutting it anymore and i would hate to hear that the edge 11 got mold inside or other gear crapping out well looks like your getting things a lot better with adjustments (just think of it as learning to do culmination again lol) 0.9 is better than 1.5 rms tot ... you should of tried a repco or a auto supply shop for the lube i think that super lube is around i have seen it before in oz oh well good luck with the adjustments hope you get the problem sussed out and the CGX comes good and you get back to nice round stars again.. looking forward to your next video. please keep us updated with your progress with the mount i am very interested in you final outcome and annalise's ....... some nice upgraded ceramic bearings would be a nice investment in the CGX i would glide like a ice skater lol (in my best homer simpson voice) mmmmmm round stars lol
    cheers
    james D

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh I keep meaning to get a better solution but I also keep spending my money on stupid stuff.

    • @jamesdougan8789
      @jamesdougan8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DylanODonnell stupid stuff is great until the wife hears about it .. that's usually when you find out your great new toy is stupid stuff lol ....... enjoy while you can

  • @faiind
    @faiind 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you already had moonshine shots with Trevor? You could stream it live on TH-cam 😜🤣

  • @TheZ3roCool
    @TheZ3roCool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gear Porn, White Jacket, oversized shadow hands in the obsy, SUPER LUBE 😋😋😋!!!!!! I cannot take it anymore 🤪🤗🤪 Too much indulgence in one TH-cam video 🙏🤣😂🤣😂 You killin me 👌

  • @Gekiko7167
    @Gekiko7167 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am getting into Astrophotography with a star adventurer mount, a 60D dslr and a 70-600mm f4 lens.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to the gang

    • @Gekiko7167
      @Gekiko7167 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DylanODonnell The roller coaster ride for my wallet called Astrophotography has just begun. 🙃

  • @yangyunbo1
    @yangyunbo1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i prefer cem 60 or above

  • @Marduk4all
    @Marduk4all 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My CGEM Mount had a stiff DEC Axis. I was not able balanced it good enough for good guiding.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh I feel like the CGX was the first decent Celestron mount at that price point

    • @caleb8239
      @caleb8239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's caused from insufficient clearance between the ring gear and the housing.
      I hypertuned my old CGEM and the process requires sanding down the ring gear to the point where it will move freely in it's housing.

  • @yosmith1
    @yosmith1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey!!! WTF is that focuser???? Spill it!!

  • @brandonbrooks2845
    @brandonbrooks2845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tuning, I liked the gear porn WAY too much!!!

  • @taavilez
    @taavilez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do any of the CGX users out there also run PEC? I haven’t graduated to an advanced level. Btw, I sent my CGX out for hypertune (drove up to Phoenix bc I live in Tucson) and the mount came back with lots of error and the home limit switch off even though multiple polar alignments showed I was within 15” alignment

  • @scott1958tube
    @scott1958tube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dylan,
    Would tinkering like this void your warranty as I am having an issue with my CGX where the RA axis seems to be binding and jerking when I attempt to align and press the hand controller arrow buttons for the RA axis.
    I have a later CGX and there is no mention of the spacing or tension adjustment screws in the manual.

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it would void your warranty but the behaviour you mention at also be bad balance with the counterweights OR try resetting/upgrading the firmware on the hand controller. If that fails .. contact Celestron or your vendor for support .

  • @jwing6269
    @jwing6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the Exact Same Issue. Even at F7 it’s unforgiving and having some “egg” stars

  • @mycarolinaskies
    @mycarolinaskies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those Herman Miller chairs are the bomb... sadly I broke mine and its like 250 for the part I need!

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How good are they!

    • @mycarolinaskies
      @mycarolinaskies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DylanODonnell well I got mine second hand and it was already about 20 years old. But I didn't feel too bad as I only paid about 30 bucks for it haha

  • @LAshotts
    @LAshotts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Niyyyyyce.... I mean who don’t like fiddling with things.

  • @anwarbeg6681
    @anwarbeg6681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Him: Got a new chair. It's the BEST chair in the world!
    Pewdiepie: Lemme stop you there

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pfff only $399

    • @anwarbeg6681
      @anwarbeg6681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dylan O'Donnell Btw i wanted to ask you which telescope you would recommend to buy ( I currently have a 6 inch dobsonian) for astrophotography (ps. I cant believe that you responded to my comment!)

  • @davepastern
    @davepastern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    superlube is easily available in Australia, from a local supplier at reasonable prices.

    • @RobB_VK6ES
      @RobB_VK6ES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to name names ?

    • @davepastern
      @davepastern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobB_VK6ES Sure: www.mektronics.com.au/brands/super-lube/super-lube-grease-3oz-tube.html

  • @Zero_Point_Energy1
    @Zero_Point_Energy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When checking the guiding after each adjustment, should I recalibrate, or can I just stop the guiding, do the adjustment and then start it again?

    • @DylanODonnell
      @DylanODonnell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No need to recal for minor adjustments but def do it again when you are finished and check again.

  • @antoswellisz8542
    @antoswellisz8542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “If possible, get a food-grade grease and that way you can eat food off your CGX” lmao