I also have a similar level gauge ...but ..it reads negative camber on the dodge ram..if the wheels are off the ground...but positive camber if the wheels are on the ground....
With proper manual wheel alignment clamps you have runout adjustment which these don't have. Just clamping the wheel clamp 1mm out can give you a false reading.
You made a mistake when measuring the castor. Before you measure castor, you're supposed to level the D gauge bubble a second time after turning in 20 degrees. The KPI gauge you measure directly before doing that.
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The vehicle in theory should be level. However, minor height differential from front to back impacts the results in a minimal way. However, I strongly recommend being level from side to side.
are you sure the vehicle was parked perfectly level during both measurements? was there more weight in the care during one of the measurements than the other (empty vs full fuel tank)? I know camber is impacted more by weight and level than caster... Also, were you using the same gauge for both measurements? if not, maybe your first or 2nd gauge is inaccurate or not calibrated. Check it a few times, moving the car fwd/backward between measurements
@@mrdiyguy123 I used a laser level to level my vehicle within 1/32" in my driveway. That took me almost 2 hours to achieve. After trying several different degrees I found I had to turn the wheel to 35 degrees to get the camber to show 4 degrees with this tool. It isn't an accurate way to set the camber. Every vehicle is different so turning the wheel 20 degrees on every vehicle can't be right. My testing of this tool, comparing it to the alignment I had done 2 week before proves it. It works for camber, not for caster. No one is going to do what I have done to test this tools accuracy. If I could upload pictures to show people I would.
@TraceyWascher you clearly went to great lengths to be as precise as possible. Did you have turn plates under the front wheels? If there is friction between tires and the driveway all bets are off. Also, I have heard pros say if they align a vehicle, take it off the rack drive it down the road and then put it back on the rack- measurements can slightly vary. 2 to 4 degrees is a large large variation though. Don't forget to check for worn suspension parts. Also, read this videos description for a procedure update learned post filming.
@@mrdiyguy123 Yes I have turn plates and I used them. That's how I knew how many degrees I was turning the wheel. 20 degrees out, level it, zero the caster adjustment, 20 degrees in, zero the it out and read the caster setting. I've watched the video, read the simple instructions and checked it three times before altering the how many degrees I turned the wheel until it came out to 4 degrees like the alignment was set at. Two weeks after the alignment.
looks to me that you have a lot to learn yet. first off you dont set your gauge to a level, you set it accordingly to the floor angle. use a digital angle finder on top of a 4ft level to get your floor angle and set accordingly. some vehicles require that the main frame be leveled out before caster and camber can be adjusted. front to back frame angle having an effect on caster and side to side having an effect on camber, this is referred to as z trim, and some require measurements from bump stop to cross-member or frame. keep studying you will eventually get there.
Some would align with gas in the tank or a driver in the seat, For you a Burger on the hood. Great Video
I also have a similar level gauge ...but ..it reads negative camber on the dodge ram..if the wheels are off the ground...but positive camber if the wheels are on the ground....
Just ordered your stuff from Amazon. Would there be another name on specifications for the kingpin measurement? Also nice video.
I have the same wheel clamp...i see..I tend to apply mine horizontally....but i see why you put yours vertical
How accurate do you think this method is ?
With proper manual wheel alignment clamps you have runout adjustment which these don't have. Just clamping the wheel clamp 1mm out can give you a false reading.
Depends on the wheel size and spec tolerance. 1 mm for a 17" wheel is 0.13 degrees.
@@larrybud The wheel clamps can be out by over 5mm alone, not to mention flange and wheel buckles.
Prio1 is toe, prio2 is camber, and u dont need prio3..and u can do the fist one with a cheap string..
You made a mistake when measuring the castor. Before you measure castor, you're supposed to level the D gauge bubble a second time after turning in 20 degrees. The KPI gauge you measure directly before doing that.
Thank you thank you for providing constructive critism! I am better for knowing about this mistake and have have updated the description to describe the proper procedure. I want to share my knowledge and it needs to be correct! Thank you thank you!
I would like to send you a thank you present. Please add a comment to my video "XTOOL AD20 OBDII Scanner Review and Contest" to be entered in the draw and also check my channels "About" section and send me an email. Thanks.
Does vehicle need level
The vehicle in theory should be level. However, minor height differential from front to back impacts the results in a minimal way. However, I strongly recommend being level from side to side.
My caster was set to 4.0 degrees two weeks ago. This tool says it's at 2.0 degrees. Doesn't make sense.
are you sure the vehicle was parked perfectly level during both measurements?
was there more weight in the care during one of the measurements than the other (empty vs full fuel tank)? I know camber is impacted more by weight and level than caster...
Also, were you using the same gauge for both measurements? if not, maybe your first or 2nd gauge is inaccurate or not calibrated. Check it a few times, moving the car fwd/backward between measurements
@@mrdiyguy123 I used a laser level to level my vehicle within 1/32" in my driveway. That took me almost 2 hours to achieve. After trying several different degrees I found I had to turn the wheel to 35 degrees to get the camber to show 4 degrees with this tool. It isn't an accurate way to set the camber. Every vehicle is different so turning the wheel 20 degrees on every vehicle can't be right. My testing of this tool, comparing it to the alignment I had done 2 week before proves it. It works for camber, not for caster. No one is going to do what I have done to test this tools accuracy. If I could upload pictures to show people I would.
@TraceyWascher you clearly went to great lengths to be as precise as possible. Did you have turn plates under the front wheels? If there is friction between tires and the driveway all bets are off. Also, I have heard pros say if they align a vehicle, take it off the rack drive it down the road and then put it back on the rack- measurements can slightly vary. 2 to 4 degrees is a large large variation though. Don't forget to check for worn suspension parts. Also, read this videos description for a procedure update learned post filming.
@@mrdiyguy123 Yes I have turn plates and I used them. That's how I knew how many degrees I was turning the wheel. 20 degrees out, level it, zero the caster adjustment, 20 degrees in, zero the it out and read the caster setting. I've watched the video, read the simple instructions and checked it three times before altering the how many degrees I turned the wheel until it came out to 4 degrees like the alignment was set at. Two weeks after the alignment.
You have to multiply your reading by 1.5 if you use a 20 degree angle (40 degree total swing)
looks to me that you have a lot to learn yet. first off you dont set your gauge to a level, you set it accordingly to the floor angle. use a digital angle finder on top of a 4ft level to get your floor angle and set accordingly. some vehicles require that the main frame be leveled out before caster and camber can be adjusted. front to back frame angle having an effect on caster and side to side having an effect on camber, this is referred to as z trim, and some require measurements from bump stop to cross-member or frame. keep studying you will eventually get there.
You are right I have lots to learn... and thank you for sharing above. Very interesting.
Thanks for the tip of calibrating to the floor level. It makes so much sense and is easier than trying to level my driveway.