How I love that Scott gets angry with Madison and Jayden while when he meets Ethan he's calm. It's because he want only see Ethan because he thinks he's the only Father can save his son while Scott's Father didn't save his brother. But instead of Ethan came in warehouse only to show Madison or/and Norman he gets really angry because he spent time alot of effort just to want to see a Father to save his son.
because scott wanted to see if ethan, as a father, would sacrifice everything to save his son. Him going with an fbi agent, jayden, shows hes willing to find his son, but with assistance
The most logical answer I can give Scott has 2 options from your perspective If Ethan goes only he will always choose not use the gun If Ethan goes with Jayden, he will always choose to take out the gun thats my only theory lol
@@teevee7678 That explanation would make sense for Madison, but doesn't check out for Norman. He takes him by surprise. It's reasonable to assume Scott had no idea Norman was there. I like that they made some variations to the scene but it's a bit of a plothole, especially considering Ethan was going to be shot BEFORE he saved Shaun.
one thing doesn't make sense. Shelby will get mad if Jayden/Madison saved Shaun because he wants Ethan to do it. Now the detective thinks Ethan is the killer. If Ethan gets arested in your game, he is in jail for the rest of the game.
What do you mean? Shelby never thought Ethan was the killer, because Shelby himself IS, the Origami Killer. Unless you meant Norman or Blake. Norman doesn't think that Ethan is the Origami Killer, because he knows that's false. Blake is just very stupid, and ironically, he is friends with Scott Shelby.
And by the way. What Scott was doing what not only evil but stupid. He wanted to find a father who will save his son. If he knew that father is not able to do that. He could at least free these children. Spare them. Why they should suffer because of pain? And it's stupid because he already could see how Ethan sacrficed his life for Jason. He already had what he wanted. I wish someone else could be the killer. Blake would be the best choice or Madison maybe.
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a misogynistic loser who constantly hates on female characters for absolutely no reason and makes alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a misogynistic bigot who constantly hates female characters for no reason and creates alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a sexist bigot who constantly hates on female characters for no reason and makes many alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
I love the ending with Ethan and Norman. Ethan can save his son and Norman can be a hero and defeat the origami killer once and for all. My two favorite characters can shine and become the heroes. I don't really like Madison because she is stupid. She has no fightning skills. She decided to expose herself to danger without any expierence or preparation for such life. I mean it's stupid. She is just a reporter and she makes things worse.
I think that's what's admiring about Madison. She's less experienced than Norman and Scott (even though Scott is the villain), and she's still willing to risk her life to find Shaun and the killer. She even saved Ethan's life two times, once when he came back from his second trial, and once when they were escaping from the police. She even comforted Ethan, telling him that he's not the killer, and even went to the FREAKING KILLER'S house, after the killer's mother revealed him to her. If these aren't feats, I don't know what are.
@@m3gstarrr436weirdly enough I loved her character Maybe the whole trope itself about falling in love with hero during work is predictable but the character itself if great
@@jinthekingkazama1159I don't care if they say Madison is a bad character. Although at first, Madison was not involved with the Origami Killer Case and she just wanted to cure her insomnia. But that all changed 180° after Madison meet Ethan at the Motel for the first time. At first, Madison only treated Ethan's wounds and the two of them got to know each other, until Madison realized that Ethan was trying to save his son who was being held captive by the Origami Killer. Initially, Madison wanted to cover the news about Ethan who was suspected by the police of being the Origami Killer. But as the story progressed, Madison slowly began to fall in love with Ethan and Madison couldn't bear to see Ethan continue to endanger himself just to save his son. Since then, Madison started her own investigation as a journalist, solely to prove Ethan's was innocence and help Ethan find the whereabouts of his son, so Madison was willing to put herself in danger to help Ethan, even though she was not involved in the Origami Killer Case at all. But in the end they both managed to save Shaun's life from the death. Then the three of them decided to move to another city and they buy a new house in a place where there was no rain and then the three of them started living as a new family.
But at least Ethan has succeeded in going through all the difficult trials to save Shaun's life and now Ethan, Madison and Shaun have moved to a new house and started a new life as a family. 😢
All these fight scenes in this game feels like terrible 90’s, 80’s horror movie chase scenes and also it feels like a bunch of rag dolls fighting each other too.
@@matinvakili1703i agree yeah, but hey, it’s quantic dream’s first game with choices etc, i love heavy rain more than the others for idk reasons but i felt the gameplay more realistic than androids being rebels yk
In my first run, i've got Ethan and Madison only at the warehouse and i really like more this one because at least Ethan does kill Scott like a protecting and caring dad. For Norman, i've made him abondon the case since i didn't like him because of that FBI technology stuff, it really does put away from the rest in my opinion.
I never understood how the police find Ethan in this ending, no one would have reported it, and they had no way of knowing Ethan would be there since he only went there because of the address on his phone, which the police didn't know about.
@@thegreatnincompoop6385There is an answer to this, but not a clear one. During the search for Scott, if Norman finds him and Ethan also knows the location of the port, Blake gets a phone call from someone telling the car that Ethan stole. If Norman gives up, there will obviously be the same call, but it will not be shown to the player as Norman has not solved the case/is dead. But it looks even more stupid if Norman and Ethan find Shaun together, the police simply do not arrive, and everything is decided by the outcome of the battle between Norman and Scott. Yep
@@tokisada108 Yes, that wasn't explained well, because if that's the case then every ending needs to show that, not just one ending, and also if that was the case then the call Blake gets is from a stranger, and none of the events that could happen could possibly prevent that call from happening, meaning that they should have shown up in every ending, not just a few.
Best ending artistically : •Norman never finds the killer. Resigns FBI and quits tripto and ARI •Ethan doesn’t forgive madison and saves shaun • Madison finds the warehouse but doesn’t get to come in and save Ethan and he gets killed by the cops while coming out • Scott either gets killed by Ethan in the warehouse or escapes and is killed by Lauren later on
The Ethan alone ending is absolutely devastating. I hate that he always dies no matter what.
And Blake doesn't go to prison after this.
@@PrincessIcyCalixwait what can you do to Blake I hate him
@@jafaw He can lose his job but he doesn't go to prison and it only possible if he kills Ethan.
@@PrincessIcyCalix alright
Wym? Ethan didn't die in my gameplay nor did Shawn.
How I love that Scott gets angry with Madison and Jayden while when he meets Ethan he's calm. It's because he want only see Ethan because he thinks he's the only Father can save his son while Scott's Father didn't save his brother. But instead of Ethan came in warehouse only to show Madison or/and Norman he gets really angry because he spent time alot of effort just to want to see a Father to save his son.
Well done
Ethan already sacrficed himself for Jason. He could see that already so he had what he wanted.
You think we so dumb to not understand that or what? Maybe you can explain how to breathe?
@@PrincessIcyCalix I could be wrong, but I feel like Jason's death, is implied to be before Scott's murders.
22:33 that's hilarious and so out of character.😂
Honestly the non perfect endings are more interesting than the perfect one.
Why if Ethan goes alone Scott lets him live, but, if Ethan goes with Jayden, Scott wants to shoot him?
Because.
because scott wanted to see if ethan, as a father, would sacrifice everything to save his son. Him going with an fbi agent, jayden, shows hes willing to find his son, but with assistance
The most logical answer I can give
Scott has 2 options from your perspective
If Ethan goes only he will always choose not use the gun
If Ethan goes with Jayden, he will always choose to take out the gun
thats my only theory lol
@@teevee7678 That explanation would make sense for Madison, but doesn't check out for Norman. He takes him by surprise. It's reasonable to assume Scott had no idea Norman was there. I like that they made some variations to the scene but it's a bit of a plothole, especially considering Ethan was going to be shot BEFORE he saved Shaun.
@@teevee7678 But he Didnt know Jayden whas there...
one thing doesn't make sense. Shelby will get mad if Jayden/Madison saved Shaun because he wants Ethan to do it. Now the detective
thinks Ethan is the killer. If Ethan gets arested in your game, he is in jail for the rest of the game.
What do you mean? Shelby never thought Ethan was the killer, because Shelby himself IS, the Origami Killer. Unless you meant Norman or Blake. Norman doesn't think that Ethan is the Origami Killer, because he knows that's false. Blake is just very stupid, and ironically, he is friends with Scott Shelby.
The motorcycle prompts…are different to my ps4 game…so much easier to understand
18 months ago to 36 months ago 😢 💔 😪 😔 ❤️ 💓
And by the way. What Scott was doing what not only evil but stupid. He wanted to find a father who will save his son. If he knew that father is not able to do that. He could at least free these children. Spare them. Why they should suffer because of pain? And it's stupid because he already could see how Ethan sacrficed his life for Jason. He already had what he wanted. I wish someone else could be the killer. Blake would be the best choice or Madison maybe.
Madison?😂
How the hell would Madison make sense?
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a misogynistic loser who constantly hates on female characters for absolutely no reason and makes alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a misogynistic bigot who constantly hates female characters for no reason and creates alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
@@jinthekingkazama1159because the op is a sexist bigot who constantly hates on female characters for no reason and makes many alternate accounts to hate on them even more.
What I don’t understand is why Scott pulls a gun out on Ethan before jayden arrives, so different from the Ethan solo ending
I think he was just holding him at gunpoint, in case if Ethan wanted to attack him for some reason.
I love the ending with Ethan and Norman. Ethan can save his son and Norman can be a hero and defeat the origami killer once and for all. My two favorite characters can shine and become the heroes. I don't really like Madison because she is stupid. She has no fightning skills. She decided to expose herself to danger without any expierence or preparation for such life. I mean it's stupid. She is just a reporter and she makes things worse.
well some of madison’s actions have been silly, but all of the characters have been. it’s really weird how overhated she is :/
I think that's what's admiring about Madison. She's less experienced than Norman and Scott (even though Scott is the villain), and she's still willing to risk her life to find Shaun and the killer. She even saved Ethan's life two times, once when he came back from his second trial, and once when they were escaping from the police. She even comforted Ethan, telling him that he's not the killer, and even went to the FREAKING KILLER'S house, after the killer's mother revealed him to her. If these aren't feats, I don't know what are.
@@m3gstarrr436weirdly enough I loved her character
Maybe the whole trope itself about falling in love with hero during work is predictable but the character itself if great
@@jinthekingkazama1159I don't care if they say Madison is a bad character. Although at first, Madison was not involved with the Origami Killer Case and she just wanted to cure her insomnia. But that all changed 180° after Madison meet Ethan at the Motel for the first time. At first, Madison only treated Ethan's wounds and the two of them got to know each other, until Madison realized that Ethan was trying to save his son who was being held captive by the Origami Killer. Initially, Madison wanted to cover the news about Ethan who was suspected by the police of being the Origami Killer. But as the story progressed, Madison slowly began to fall in love with Ethan and Madison couldn't bear to see Ethan continue to endanger himself just to save his son. Since then, Madison started her own investigation as a journalist, solely to prove Ethan's was innocence and help Ethan find the whereabouts of his son, so Madison was willing to put herself in danger to help Ethan, even though she was not involved in the Origami Killer Case at all. But in the end they both managed to save Shaun's life from the death. Then the three of them decided to move to another city and they buy a new house in a place where there was no rain and then the three of them started living as a new family.
@@royhetharia2816
Exactly. Madison is awesome.
This game looks similar to the medium horror game
I feel bad for Ethan.
@alguem520 Yeach. Him too.
But at least Ethan has succeeded in going through all the difficult trials to save Shaun's life and now Ethan, Madison and Shaun have moved to a new house and started a new life as a family. 😢
All these fight scenes in this game feels like terrible 90’s, 80’s horror movie chase scenes and also it feels like a bunch of rag dolls fighting each other too.
It’s for 14 years ago. Two generations back. It’s fine. The facial animation could’ve been better
@@matinvakili1703i agree yeah, but hey, it’s quantic dream’s first game with choices etc, i love heavy rain more than the others for idk reasons but i felt the gameplay more realistic than androids being rebels yk
@@WEISS_3D first one was Fahrenheit afaik
@@matinvakili1703 oh mb
In my first run, i've got Ethan and Madison only at the warehouse and i really like more this one because at least Ethan does kill Scott like a protecting and caring dad. For Norman, i've made him abondon the case since i didn't like him because of that FBI technology stuff, it really does put away from the rest in my opinion.
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Why are you doing the police here 9:15
I never understood how the police find Ethan in this ending, no one would have reported it, and they had no way of knowing Ethan would be there since he only went there because of the address on his phone, which the police didn't know about.
I don't know, but I didn't play the game because I know all the characters.
@@thegreatnincompoop6385There is an answer to this, but not a clear one. During the search for Scott, if Norman finds him and Ethan also knows the location of the port, Blake gets a phone call from someone telling the car that Ethan stole. If Norman gives up, there will obviously be the same call, but it will not be shown to the player as Norman has not solved the case/is dead. But it looks even more stupid if Norman and Ethan find Shaun together, the police simply do not arrive, and everything is decided by the outcome of the battle between Norman and Scott. Yep
@@tokisada108 Yes, that wasn't explained well, because if that's the case then every ending needs to show that, not just one ending, and also if that was the case then the call Blake gets is from a stranger, and none of the events that could happen could possibly prevent that call from happening, meaning that they should have shown up in every ending, not just a few.
But Norman or Madison go to their own and his police are not here, but Ethan is the only character who didn't go to the nightclub.
Best ending artistically :
•Norman never finds the killer. Resigns FBI and quits tripto and ARI
•Ethan doesn’t forgive madison and saves shaun
• Madison finds the warehouse but doesn’t get to come in and save Ethan and he gets killed by the cops while coming out
• Scott either gets killed by Ethan in the warehouse or escapes and is killed by Lauren later on
Timestamps please