If you guys are looking for something for deathcore or stuff lower than A# in general, your only solid option is Odin up until G, Hydra for F, and Cabal for everything else. Hellrazer 3 is really damn good for chords, but sequential chords and faster changes make it a dead giveaway. Far less work with Odin and Cabal to get good gallops and chugs! Eclipse shines for solos tho. Get the GP for Akudama by Alpha Wolf to test the demos. I frequently use that as a benchmark. Edit: Ive played 30+ gigs since this comment. Hydra and Cabal are the better options. Hydra if you're willing to go the extra mile editing the 'human' value (velocity, sustain, bends, dominant strokes).And if youre particularly clever, you can use these as FX guitars with Helix and Archetype! Seriously elevates the performance
@@ThatsOurRobert You've got to mess around with the default sound setting a bit to get a good sound. That or change amp sims. Ive used Shreddage as a backing guitar live and so far no ones noticed. Including my band members
So.... I need all of them is what you are saying!!! Unfortunately I think I have to agree, they all clearly have strengths and weaknesses and none seem to "do it all". But wow, some of the songs are truly impressive.
@@genjitsu7448 After 8 months and 30 something gigs, Hydra and Cabal are the way to go. As long as you're willing to put time into adding human tendencies (timing, velocity, sustain, pitch bends, harder down strokes) both sound good. For gigs on guitar 2 (which plays bigger chords) It uses cabal, but for riffs and everything else Hydra all the way.
I have heavier 7 strings, shreddage 3 hydra, and Cabal8 and in my opinion I like Heavier 7strings best its a super easy user interface and all the presets and ability to tweak them yourself is amazing.
Agree bro... I have all the metal guitars you mention, plus others like Giuitar Amp... made a brutal death track, replaced the Heavier7strings by all of the other guitars, configured them to sound as realistic as possible and no... rythm parts sounds all equal. Instead, Heavier7Strings has some nice algorithm which make it sounds ralistic. Only thing I can't do is automating the whammy bar. Can't find the controller in the automationn controller list also. Any solution?
@@Overxpossed Im not sure what daw you use but I have ableton and what I did to automate the whammy bar is when I have H7S in a session I map the bar to my midi keyboard. Hope this might help you🤘
@@90dzcohmzter09 Heey bro! Thanks for replying. I'm using FL. I tried to use the pitch bend of the MIDI Keyboard but it doesn't catch the whammy bar :-/ But thank you for replying!
@@Overxpossed coming back to this because I am currently using H7S on a project and I learned that if you go on to the midi clip itself and use pitch bend it will cause the whammy bar to activate! Hopefully that’s the case across all daw’s not just ableton. Hope this works for you🤟🏼
@@90dzcohmzter09 Wow man... you're a true helper... After weeks you came back here and replied. Thank you very much :) You just solved the issue. It's really weird that I have to move the Pitch Whell from my MIDI controller in order to make an automation from it; if not moved, then the automation options are all greyed out. Is like moving the pitch wheel activates it; otherwise is unrecognisable by the DAW. Thanks a lot mate!!! It worked!
Damn these sound soo real it got me wondering if certain bands just use these midi guitars for the record and then learn the guitar part for live shows 🤯 It would save hours of tracking and take after take, especially on solos
@@morbidcorpse5954 good thing no one is concerned with your opinion. “i dont wike it cuz ith not made how i want it 2 b made peepee poopoo reeeee >:(“ you still need to be able to write music lol you don’t just buy some software and magically a good song pops out of your ass. If this is like “steroids” which doesn’t even make sense to begin with because what exactly is the advantage software is giving people over others? Other than accessibility which is typically a net positive unless you’re a gatekeeping boomer, even pretending it does make sense then anything outside of learning to create an instrument by hand along with all the equipment you would need to record or coding any software involved on architectures you built on the computer you made from scratch would be like using steroids right? I think most would find that isn’t exactly reasonable so where exactly is the line and who are you to draw it? We are literally 40+ years into the digital age regarding music production how do people still think like this and misunderstand software in such basic and fundamental ways. Using steroids is the exact opposite of what this software is. If you want to stick to your shitty analogy steroids is having the money to hire a session guitarist or the money to record in a good studio, or the money especially during times when it is increasingly difficult to even be profitable as a musician the price of some software is nothing to compared to those. But people would rather romanticize shit that doesn’t matter and things they wouldnt even know unless someone told them because the music is still good regardless of how it was made. Guarantee a lot of your favorite music is made using “steroids” lmao
I'm coming from an orchestral user stand point trying to find some edge and crunch for some action stuff...and man I'll tell yea they sound pretty damn terrific. Heavier7strings did seem lower quality to say the least. Everything else i WANT!
H7s is old as living shit, it’s one of the first libraries to include new features such as hand positioning and such. But the idiots who recorded it though that using a mic instead of di was a good idea
I did a test by composing a death metal track, tried all the virtual guitars available in the market, configured them as reaslitic as possible and none of them plays as great as H7S. At the least, for making brutal death, it sounds damn real.
Warning: if you’re a logic pro user, stay away from Heavier 7 Strings. It’s not native to apple silicon and crashed immediately when loaded in logic pro. (It worked well with reaper, however)
absolutely incredible guitars, my pick would be ample's metal categories, they sound super realistic, chords are great and especially leads, and they also give you tons of features that make writing parts much easier. 7strings is good, but it not being recorded with clean DI makes it sounds much worse than the others. still good, shreddage is also great but it's complicated articulations, buggy interface and lack of features, along with having to buy kontakt makes it a huge downside. Odin is absolutely amazing though, if I could reccomend ample's guitars and odin, the riffs library with 7 strings is amazing but the recording of the software makes it worse than the others in sound.
I'm looking for something like Metallica black album/ Godsmack distortion but I also want a 7 string. I'm trying to find two good sounds for my personal music and stick to those like lead and backup. I'm a drummer but also write for a lot of genres. Prog metal is one. But I don't have much to spend. Which one will give me the closest sound but also completely playable vs loops in chords... I have guitar rig 6 still figuring that out. No realistic clean guitars for guitar rig 6 to sound real enough. And I can't find an actual good heavy sound without being overboard heavy. Black album/Godsmack IMO is a great heavy, metal sound.
I bought Heavier7Strings because I like the way it sounds and I wanted a quick way to audition riffs. I wish I had paid closer attention to the way it looks because the UI is geared towards 14-year-old boys living in 1987. Here's hoping some plucky coder has taken the time to re-skin it.
Wow, Im torn between Heavier 7 Strings and Ample Metal Eclipse, wow, which do i get?? They sound amazing, and seems H7S has more options but Ample Metal Eclipse seems user friendly. Man, this is tough but great video!
@@Synstrument Im leaning more to H7S, been watching demos and the different effects that come with it, seems to be worth my buck. Thanks for the video btw! Great review!
If you use fl studio, don't bother with Metal Eclipse. It works perfectly only with Ableton. If you try to import MIDI from the vst to the piano roll, the effects won't work.
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Guitar VSTs sure have come a long way for the past 10 years, these are mad crazy!
They have but MODO GUITAR will render them all instantly obsolete once it comes out...which is soon or never LOL
@@benjamind2008 If that comes out I'm buying it ASAP
facts
@@benjamind2008 still waiting for this (& heavier9strings)
Starting with Mick Gordon... already conquered me.
1:08 that riff is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If you guys are looking for something for deathcore or stuff lower than A# in general, your only solid option is Odin up until G, Hydra for F, and Cabal for everything else. Hellrazer 3 is really damn good for chords, but sequential chords and faster changes make it a dead giveaway. Far less work with Odin and Cabal to get good gallops and chugs! Eclipse shines for solos tho. Get the GP for Akudama by Alpha Wolf to test the demos. I frequently use that as a benchmark.
Edit: Ive played 30+ gigs since this comment. Hydra and Cabal are the better options. Hydra if you're willing to go the extra mile editing the 'human' value (velocity, sustain, bends, dominant strokes).And if youre particularly clever, you can use these as FX guitars with Helix and Archetype! Seriously elevates the performance
@@ThatsOurRobert You've got to mess around with the default sound setting a bit to get a good sound. That or change amp sims. Ive used Shreddage as a backing guitar live and so far no ones noticed. Including my band members
@@ThatsOurRobert Use dedicated amp sims. Dial back the tone knob on your tube screamer.
So.... I need all of them is what you are saying!!! Unfortunately I think I have to agree, they all clearly have strengths and weaknesses and none seem to "do it all". But wow, some of the songs are truly impressive.
@@genjitsu7448 After 8 months and 30 something gigs, Hydra and Cabal are the way to go. As long as you're willing to put time into adding human tendencies (timing, velocity, sustain, pitch bends, harder down strokes) both sound good. For gigs on guitar 2 (which plays bigger chords) It uses cabal, but for riffs and everything else Hydra all the way.
V-Metal was doing all that years ago, and was probably the first tailored to Metal guitar primarily. Close 2nd is Shreddage.
This Slipknot remake at 3:29 is just unbelievable.
Came for the plugins, stayed for the music
V-Metal and Cabal 8 sounds really brutal.
v-metal is the alexi laiho ltd guitar, RIP
@@MrMusicopath Rest in Peace, metal Legend.
Cabal 8 sounds almost nothing like what you hear in the video, you need a vst amp
@@ArchVileManica hey man do you know which amp sim it was ?
@@shakethatash1785 guitar rig 6 im pretty sure
Im already convinced with the first one
Be warned of the phasing issues with cabal8
I have heavier 7 strings, shreddage 3 hydra, and Cabal8 and in my opinion I like Heavier 7strings best its a super easy user interface and all the presets and ability to tweak them yourself is amazing.
Agree bro... I have all the metal guitars you mention, plus others like Giuitar Amp... made a brutal death track, replaced the Heavier7strings by all of the other guitars, configured them to sound as realistic as possible and no... rythm parts sounds all equal. Instead, Heavier7Strings has some nice algorithm which make it sounds ralistic. Only thing I can't do is automating the whammy bar. Can't find the controller in the automationn controller list also. Any solution?
@@Overxpossed Im not sure what daw you use but I have ableton and what I did to automate the whammy bar is when I have H7S in a session I map the bar to my midi keyboard. Hope this might help you🤘
@@90dzcohmzter09 Heey bro! Thanks for replying. I'm using FL. I tried to use the pitch bend of the MIDI Keyboard but it doesn't catch the whammy bar :-/ But thank you for replying!
@@Overxpossed coming back to this because I am currently using H7S on a project and I learned that if you go on to the midi clip itself and use pitch bend it will cause the whammy bar to activate! Hopefully that’s the case across all daw’s not just ableton. Hope this works for you🤟🏼
@@90dzcohmzter09 Wow man... you're a true helper... After weeks you came back here and replied. Thank you very much :) You just solved the issue. It's really weird that I have to move the Pitch Whell from my MIDI controller in order to make an automation from it; if not moved, then the automation options are all greyed out. Is like moving the pitch wheel activates it; otherwise is unrecognisable by the DAW. Thanks a lot mate!!! It worked!
Man, you don't know how grateful I am right now! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
really appreciate u guys for this , I will buy soon after my exams
Actually works.. Just disable the real time protection in Setting. Wasnt sure that it would work .Awesome bruh..
Hey. Seriously. Thank you. I just downloaded soft and I can CLEARLY see why your vid was recomnded. You're an aweso intro into
Didn't expect slayer gates at the beginning
Me too
3:29 Sick Slipknot cover.
what song is that?
@@radmehr2338 Nero Forte
@@Dilitrium Thanks
@@radmehr2338 No prob
Damn these sound soo real it got me wondering if certain bands just use these midi guitars for the record and then learn the guitar part for live shows 🤯 It would save hours of tracking and take after take, especially on solos
they do
I equate this to steroid use...
@@morbidcorpse5954 good thing no one is concerned with your opinion. “i dont wike it cuz ith not made how i want it 2 b made peepee poopoo reeeee >:(“
you still need to be able to write music lol you don’t just buy some software and magically a good song pops out of your ass. If this is like “steroids” which doesn’t even make sense to begin with because what exactly is the advantage software is giving people over others? Other than accessibility which is typically a net positive unless you’re a gatekeeping boomer, even pretending it does make sense then anything outside of learning to create an instrument by hand along with all the equipment you would need to record or coding any software involved on architectures you built on the computer you made from scratch would be like using steroids right? I think most would find that isn’t exactly reasonable so where exactly is the line and who are you to draw it? We are literally 40+ years into the digital age regarding music production how do people still think like this and misunderstand software in such basic and fundamental ways.
Using steroids is the exact opposite of what this software is. If you want to stick to your shitty analogy steroids is having the money to hire a session guitarist or the money to record in a good studio, or the money especially during times when it is increasingly difficult to even be profitable as a musician the price of some software is nothing to compared to those.
But people would rather romanticize shit that doesn’t matter and things they wouldnt even know unless someone told them because the music is still good regardless of how it was made. Guarantee a lot of your favorite music is made using “steroids” lmao
@@peen2804 Whatchu talking bout Willis? Ain't nobody reading all dat.
@@morbidcorpse5954 yes!
Thank you so much for making stuff in soft a lot easier to understand.
I'm coming from an orchestral user stand point trying to find some edge and crunch for some action stuff...and man I'll tell yea they sound pretty damn terrific. Heavier7strings did seem lower quality to say the least. Everything else i WANT!
H7s is old as living shit, it’s one of the first libraries to include new features such as hand positioning and such. But the idiots who recorded it though that using a mic instead of di was a good idea
I did a test by composing a death metal track, tried all the virtual guitars available in the market, configured them as reaslitic as possible and none of them plays as great as H7S. At the least, for making brutal death, it sounds damn real.
How do you like this? th-cam.com/video/EQdp2QLiSYQ/w-d-xo.html
They should have both di and mic signals for sure but I am impressed by heavier7strings
That's crazy. Have used them all and Heavier7Strings is easily the best.
Wow! It works! The first time i tried it took forever to activate and when I disabled my antivirus it worked like in less than a minute! Thanks bro!
1:31 sounds like "A Greater Foundation" by As I Lay Dying. Roughly at the 1 minute mark of the song. Good shit!!
Everything works flawlessly
Wow. You're the best. I couldn't understand what you were saying but I just followed instructions. Thank you so much
Wow what an acNice tutorialevent! Best of luck for the rest of your future, I’m looking forward to being able to invest when I turn 21 in November!
What a video bro! Can't thank you enough! Thank you so much you made life so much easier!
Warning: if you’re a logic pro user, stay away from Heavier 7 Strings. It’s not native to apple silicon and crashed immediately when loaded in logic pro.
(It worked well with reaper, however)
Worked! What an absolute genius mad lad! Was so easy
this is going to be great!
This was so helpful!! Thank you
Thank you so much!!! It did work and took less than 5 minutes!
This video really helped me. Thank you very much!
Damn! Worked like a charm! Thank you soooo much!
In The setup thank you so much!
I really liked it and it started on my pc, thank you!
Very nice and well explained. Every tNice tutorialng is crystal clear and easily understandable.
Thanks for this awesome video dude
Everything works perfectly
RealEight also sounds very juicy after Cabal 8 and V-Metal
awesome metal version of Time!
thank you so much , it worked
Thank you so much!
Thank you, bro!
Thanks bro that was really helpful
Thank you so much it was very helpful
Thank you very much.
Hey, good video. For future videos i would recommend a editing s
I checked - everything is clean
couldn't find it for a long time, thanks man xddd
Ample Metal hellrazer ❤️🔥🔥🔥
0:03 I luv this oneee
Me Ample Hellrazer, Ample Metal Eclipse, 7 Strings
3:30
That was wild
absolutely incredible guitars, my pick would be ample's metal categories, they sound super realistic, chords are great and especially leads, and they also give you tons of features that make writing parts much easier. 7strings is good, but it not being recorded with clean DI makes it sounds much worse than the others. still good, shreddage is also great but it's complicated articulations, buggy interface and lack of features, along with having to buy kontakt makes it a huge downside. Odin is absolutely amazing though, if I could reccomend ample's guitars and odin, the riffs library with 7 strings is amazing but the recording of the software makes it worse than the others in sound.
Nice tutorial. I have been having content issues with my hmdi connected speaker and subwoofer. No soft is coming through, still coming out of
2:45 music name?
Your video is very helpful.. thank you so much
4:12 Thats Stage 1 from xeno crisis!
Cabal 8 is the best IMO. I have done Nero Forte cover using it
1:19 omg........................
lmao ikr! I thought I was missing sotNice tutorialng and lost focus for the rest of the video smh
Very nice information Sir
I'm looking for something like Metallica black album/ Godsmack distortion but I also want a 7 string. I'm trying to find two good sounds for my personal music and stick to those like lead and backup. I'm a drummer but also write for a lot of genres. Prog metal is one.
But I don't have much to spend. Which one will give me the closest sound but also completely playable vs loops in chords...
I have guitar rig 6 still figuring that out. No realistic clean guitars for guitar rig 6 to sound real enough. And I can't find an actual good heavy sound without being overboard heavy.
Black album/Godsmack IMO is a great heavy, metal sound.
Excellent
Cabal 8 is worth every penny!
Nice man ty
was sowhere where I couldn't get my stuff. Now 3, I looked for help, watched video upon video after video and on and on. About a
I bought Heavier7Strings because I like the way it sounds and I wanted a quick way to audition riffs. I wish I had paid closer attention to the way it looks because the UI is geared towards 14-year-old boys living in 1987. Here's hoping some plucky coder has taken the time to re-skin it.
That's exactly the thing that popped in my head when I saw the interface on their website. Thing is horrendous.
Wow.......That' s so cool. Keep going Sir. TNice tutorials motivtes too.
Did I just heard... TIME BY HANS ZIMMER!?
yes
don't use cabal, the guitar has phasing issues with its double track and is overall very user unfriendly
God damn, thank you
didnt expect to hear doom here lmao
Thank you. You have my SUB..
endorsent of the second option but it does exist.
more complicated one. your lody needs to soft nice. 808(app) should also fit with the lody and the rythm. snare and percussion
thanks mate tNice tutorials was a big help
Thanks for the video. Which VSTs are best to cover metal tuning though (E) and not using guitars as additional bass guitars ( ~8 string/djent)?
Odin 3 or Axure are versatile and have a strong palm mute
Круто!
shreddage the best for this style no question
WORKED WITHOUT KEYGEN. Unbelievable!
Me seeing that as soon as the video starts, Meathook from doom eternal appears:
If you're a complete beginner to soft production then soft is imo the easiest daw that you can get, I started off with it.. If you have a little bit
1:53 video link plz ,. Nice video
Cool
I thought it was a hoax, but everything works!
0:16 That was the best Inception cover I've heard! any chance you could upload it? great work btw.
It's on Wavelet Audio's official youtube channel
@@Tremendouz Thanks 👍
Those two part was from doom eternal
wp man thank you!
hey , subscribed
really helpfull
CABAL 8 Holy cow
You did a mistake not mentioning Electric sunburst deluxe....
Awesome video! :) Which of them has the best sounding slide, in your opinion?
Realeight, Shreddage (both) and Ample Metal Hellrazer.
Shreddage has been superior for me. Hellrazer sounds very unrealistic, almost like a MIDI soundfont.
Shreddage
Good video. What's the name of the song at 3.45?
Pls tell the plugins for distortion too.
Interested to know which one you guys recommend? Thanks
Wow, Im torn between Heavier 7 Strings and Ample Metal Eclipse, wow, which do i get?? They sound amazing, and seems H7S has more options but Ample Metal Eclipse seems user friendly. Man, this is tough but great video!
both are easy to use from AME I really like their Tabs charger, and from H7S I like their sound better using an external sim amp
@@Synstrument Im leaning more to H7S, been watching demos and the different effects that come with it, seems to be worth my buck. Thanks for the video btw! Great review!
If you use fl studio, don't bother with Metal Eclipse. It works perfectly only with Ableton. If you try to import MIDI from the vst to the piano roll, the effects won't work.
@@Ulver27 thank you, I was leaning more H7S , love the options and metal in general. Thanks for the responses folks!
@@JayemelMusicUniverse16
No problem. By the way, if you happen to find any metal guitar vst that works well with FL studio, please share with me.
1:08 is fucking nasty af 🤘🏻🔥
I started making soft recently, I was wondering if you wanna do any features.
What song?
0:16
0:32
0:42
0:54
1:08
2:05
2:20
3:29
4:53
5:02
That’s all 4 the list.
so good)))
like you add your own sample to the soft roll and when you play it it always plays longer than what is shown in the soft roll and