Sonic is so sweaty with the Joker, the character is so free. the amount of rage quits Sonic must get has to be up there in numbers. Dude puts moves together so flawlessly.
@LynxDestiny Lmfao no. I beat so many Jokers with Liu it’s not even funny. Joker is your average top tier. Only people who lab the game can make him a pest.
@@xcool3yx538 That's the reason he's a problem lmfao. Sonic labs the character constantly. The Joker you see in competitive play and the ones in kl are two different characters
SonicFox is a great player and unpredictable, being a good gamer you should use multiple characters instead of just one character. Because you can learn there moveset and what to expect from it. 😊👏
I feel like part of what makes Sonic’s joker so frustrating to fight is how goofy he looks like if I was getting my ass whooped by that thing I’d be pressed too
Lmfao he totally redacted his statement by saying “I play Liu Kang why would I play Joker?” So he just admitted that Liu is better than Joker and that’s why he uses him 💀 Literally complaining for no reason.
@@haysan32 Lmfao can you not hear? Sonic literally says Liu is the best in game and Rewind uses him and THEN he AGREED and continued on with if I have Liu why play Joker. He just stated he plays the best character in the game but still complaining about Jokers moves. He sounded like a female just nagging for no reason once he said that.
@@xcool3yx538 He never said “yeah Liu is the best character,” he said “yeah I play Liu Kang so why would I play Joker?” They’re talking about people tier whoring and just playing top tiers, and Rewind said he plays top tiers if he likes them, not just because. Sonic is the one that said Liu was the best character in the game. Rewind has already stated that he thinks Joker is the best character when he did his last tier list so why would he be agreeing with him here? 🤣🤣🤣
This right here lol. Rewind is complaining about top tiers when he mains Johnny and Liu and just won a tournament with cetrion. Sonic cappin hard because the Joker downplay is strong. Thinks joker ain’t even top 5 anymore because of bad matchups GTFO 💀💀💀💀
Cetrion is far better than joker lol hell I’ll even argue Liu is lowkey better than joker only reason joker has a slight edge over Liu is because the joker has great range and can control neutral well
If there was, the community would have found him/her by now. One thing this community is good for, is spotlighting talented players. Why do you think there's so much d riders for fox and ninja. Right now these players in the vid is the best in the world.
Nutty frame data, solid range, second best fatal blow in the game, probably the best low in the game, insane unbreakable damage, meterless restands and low/high forceball are ridiculously fast
Because even though rewind is really good his Liu is basic AF. Ninja utilizes the movement and spacing better, gets more consistent conversions and just plays the character better overall
Bro honestly after the nerf to Johnny's pressure, Joker is better. Expecially in a casual setting because Jokers speed and fuckshit range plus Jack'n a box to keep himself safe makes it to where he could just wiff in neutral and be okay. Like dont get me wrong you can flawless block it, but you try and get a flawless block at 3000 ping consistantly.
Flawless block ruins jack in the box but it's not the easiest at all especially bc Joker can mix up the timing. That or taking the jack in the box on the way up.
@@ChemyChem Like i said: Try and consistantly flawless block it when the opponent is playing from mars basically. Its not a local tournament where connections are a constant 0 ping 100 fps. Its online with ping that usually is in the 100-250 range. And Just taking it gives your opponent a full Kombo. Which is much worse than pressure.
Sonic usually has good talking Points but Nah fam I think the best 3 right now are Jackie,Joker,Liu kang in that order meaning joker is better 🃏😑 jokers set up and pressure is better and more overwhelming where especially in the corner you just have to take it and he says fuck Neutral all day
@@thegreatcornholio5635 I feel like it’s a tie tbh because Joker’s set ups are too godlike. Plus that jack-in-the-box move counter zones everything. Joker can just follow that thing around like it’s his pet and you just have to hold it. Once upclose, he becomes an even bigger threat. But Liu’ stagger pressure can also be overwhelming, and plus he’s a great zoner.. so really a tie in my opinion.
@@edngo4117liu has everything: zoning, staggering pressure, can punish from full screen, high mids, has many mind games from f43 and f434 string and its plus. Only thing joker has is better space control n range. Liu can naturally punish everything he does regardless of the nature of jokers push back. Only thing I might see in liu is having is whiffing issues
Lol this and the last video was just rewind complaining even though Johnny and Liu are just as S tier as Joker. Sonic already explained in his last tier list video how many punishable things Joker has while Liu and Johnny are safe for the most part. Face it rewind, sonic has been kicking your ass way before Joker dropped😂😂
Johnny isn’t on the same level as joker in my opinion , takes more skill for a pro Johnny player to win then a pro joker player Johnny at most is A tier everysense the nerfs n the rest of the cast been getting buffed
Joker is better than both liu and Johnny especially Johnny and joker is safe on literally everything and the time when sonic explained the punishes they were not good punishes because he didn’t count for everything like different strings and he didn’t go over jokers best strings
@@Screwz_HT sonic is right joker is unsafe on a lot but it’s also BS because as Rewind said, all the strings/normals joker needs to use are safe or can be made safe.
I love listening to people complain about how bad thier character is, as if they are handicapped or something. If they were that bad, then you wouldn't be using them....like Shao Kahn.... Now I'd listen to a Shao Kahn main complain lol
Rewind: (Complains about Sonic dancing between top tiers) Also Rewind: ( Admits that he uses Top Tiers that he vibes with) So then the problem isn't about using top tiers, the problem is Rewind hates fighting Sonic's Joker. Also, anyone who plays Cetrion isn't allowed to complain about spacing. Jist saying.
@@advanced8998 And doesn't stop Liu Kang from being top tier, which makes the Tier conversation irrelevant. Rewind can just admit he doesn't like fighting Joker. And thats OK, nobody LIKES fighting Joker lol.
@@noobhero7 Joker has way more frame advantage though His strings use a cane, fire, and a body as a projectile...it gives him incredible spacing and allows mix-ups all the while being safe
@@noobhero7 ok and? Rewind never said Lui wasn't top tier You're stating the obvious. Everybody knows that If you're going to make statements at least let them be thought provoking.
14:48 what kinda cap? Yeah Liu is rushdown that’s why everything is safe. Imagine complaining about a character not being safe on everything when HES NOT A RUSHDOWN CHARACTER. Joker has buttons that reach the length of a character, exactly why should Joker be able to stagger and be safe on everything like a rushdown character? Sonic you the goat but I don’t get it do you just want Joker to have everything ?
rewind use to be my favorite but the more im seeing him complain instead of lab, hes actually annoying now.Any time you hold jack in the box you can be punish, point blank period if you scared to take that risk or you dont have the timing down, thats on you, scar crushes almost all jokers except sonic and even in the recent Bo3 he actually got on sonics ass. Ugh rewind get it together nerd
Crazy that rewind is so good but he lets it get to his head so when he loses to the people who are God-like at this game he cant stand it and starts complaining about the characters. We cant win every single game and definitely not a majority when someone is just better overall, plus they play each other here and there so im sure by now they got each other figured out so if he’s losing then he’s just losing to a better player. He said it himself, hes not trying to be the best, so then why complain when losing to the best unless your trying to be better than them!
Sonic fox he has nothing else to prove now.. he is the best . He mastered every damm character in this game and same happened with injustice.. he make characters look broken.
Wish you well dude. Just posting around since I don't have media anymore. I have to rely on TH-cam. Todays ender So they kept me up all night and it is 12p.m. right now. They have been suffocating me all night long to an extreme measure. No sleep. Nodding off here and there, but didn't fall out. In which was rnm as well. In blah state and them talking through me with voice thrower. So tonight I had loads on me and scheduled with order and permission to do this tonight. Said no sleep either. So that is today so far. U.S being mentals as always. Sucks that I don't have facebook. People can't hear directly from me all the time and the crazy people will take advantage of it. So done.
these two really are fighting about which top tier character is worse than the other lmao
Was looking for this comment lol.
Sonic is so sweaty with the Joker, the character is so free. the amount of rage quits Sonic must get has to be up there in numbers. Dude puts moves together so flawlessly.
Loving the commentary lately
Joker vs Liu Kang starts at 13:30
Glooks bro
thanks
The discussion is so much more interesting than the set and the set is lit as hell
Lol legit pulled out Cetrion in the tournament.
Money in the line
but that was to deal with kung lao’s buzz saw, other than that i dont think i see rewind playing cetrion
Rewind: "If I played top tiers, I'd be playing Cetrion, and I don't play that b1tch"
Also Rewind: *Literally wins Pro Kompetition using Cetrion
Rewind seriously out here complaining while playing Johnny and Liu Kang lmao
and Cetrion lol
@LynxDestiny Lmfao no. I beat so many Jokers with Liu it’s not even funny. Joker is your average top tier. Only people who lab the game can make him a pest.
@@xcool3yx538 That's the reason he's a problem lmfao. Sonic labs the character constantly. The Joker you see in competitive play and the ones in kl are two different characters
@@xcool3yx538 average top tier? What even is that lmao
y'all just be saying anything to feel validated 💀
@@Screwz_HT Completely agree 😂 He’s annoying when someone who mains him plays you. But most Jokers I run into all do the same things.
Joker’s jester move is safe when amped after 24
Didn't rewind just play cetrion?
I’m glad you peeped it.
Yep
Man just won an entire tournament with cetrion lmao
Lmmfao Their yelling reactions cracks me up every time on the mic 😂😂😂
How the hell can they play that damn good and argue simultaneously?
After all that practice, it's almost second nature.
SonicFox is a great player and unpredictable, being a good gamer you should use multiple characters instead of just one character. Because you can learn there moveset and what to expect from it. 😊👏
This is some of the most enjoyable Kung Lao play I’ve ever seen. Spin combos look cool af
I feel like part of what makes Sonic’s joker so frustrating to fight is how goofy he looks like if I was getting my ass whooped by that thing I’d be pressed too
💀
Joker to rewind - Ow stiil back of your head is hurting
This gives me injustice 2 Koth vibes
Lmfao he totally redacted his statement by saying “I play Liu Kang why would I play Joker?” So he just admitted that Liu is better than Joker and that’s why he uses him 💀 Literally complaining for no reason.
EXACTLY 😂😂
That’s not what he’s saying lol, if he already plays another top tier why would he play Joker? He never said one was better than the other
@@haysan32 they are arguing which character is more broken than the other.
@@haysan32 Lmfao can you not hear? Sonic literally says Liu is the best in game and Rewind uses him and THEN he AGREED and continued on with if I have Liu why play Joker. He just stated he plays the best character in the game but still complaining about Jokers moves. He sounded like a female just nagging for no reason once he said that.
@@xcool3yx538 He never said “yeah Liu is the best character,” he said “yeah I play Liu Kang so why would I play Joker?” They’re talking about people tier whoring and just playing top tiers, and Rewind said he plays top tiers if he likes them, not just because. Sonic is the one that said Liu was the best character in the game. Rewind has already stated that he thinks Joker is the best character when he did his last tier list so why would he be agreeing with him here? 🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching you spank NetoTiger back in the day and even before then. Keep up the good work bro.
y’all fighting in game and through chat 😂
Rewind really argued all that time to just admit he likes playing broken characters I'm deaddddd
Cage skin is on🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 i grew up on tht shit.
Rewind just won the online tourney with Cetrion. He plays her lol
Love this back and forth. 😁 #competitivegamers
To me it's jaqcui, cetrion, liu, joker, johny
Rewind complainin' but sonic is cappin'
I'm bothered either way lol
This right here lol. Rewind is complaining about top tiers when he mains Johnny and Liu and just won a tournament with cetrion. Sonic cappin hard because the Joker downplay is strong. Thinks joker ain’t even top 5 anymore because of bad matchups GTFO 💀💀💀💀
@@PsychicJaguar19 isn’t that serious
@@d7b50 nobody said it was
@@d7b50 Commenting on something doesn't make it serious. This is a comment section for discussion, that the whole point.
Lmao rewind said you threw the game to make joker look bad😂😂😂
thats some type of shit sonic would actually do tho Haahahahaha
@@plomyde6170 lmao what’s funny is it looked like he stopped playing for that round ending😂
Liu kang is the champion and kung Lao is the fallen champion! Simple.
This the type of shit talkin I like💯
I told yall Pro Players Cap the most lol Rewind kept saying he dont play Cetrion and just won a Tournament with her
You've been talking about this for like 2 weeks now lmao
I do agree Johnny is better but I kinda love to watch y'all fight over it
Johnny is not better than Joker sorry
Johnny is good but joker is absolutely a better character
Sonic, you’re hilarious, love having vids where you talk
Awesome Gameplay SonicFox.
Love those discussions 👍🏻
A hug from Brazil my friend!
Didn’t my boy just win top 8 with Ceturion?
Joker can beat Cetrion...
@@advanced8998 your missing the point
@@Waynethegoat1 and you still haven't explained it
@@advanced8998Not rly cetrion is better then joker but im not here to argue with you cetrion is the best character in the game right now
SonicFoxx sounds like a ventriloquist 😂
Bro rewind is hilarious he ain't letting sonic get away with any bullshit :)
Cetrion is far better than joker lol hell I’ll even argue Liu is lowkey better than joker only reason joker has a slight edge over Liu is because the joker has great range and can control neutral well
Y’all should play low tier characters
Then you can brag about winning
What? These are the best players in the world
@@keithlee4963 well, we don’t know for sure
There could be someone who isn’t able to go to tournaments that is better than both
Dude sonic plays every character... even won a tournament w kollector
@@thenerdyanarchist3492 cringe
If there was, the community would have found him/her by now. One thing this community is good for, is spotlighting talented players. Why do you think there's so much d riders for fox and ninja. Right now these players in the vid is the best in the world.
Joker is one of the most annoying characters to play against, along with Jax.
And Kano
And scorpion
Agreed, yes Kano as well. But not scorpion^
I'll give you jax, but not joker. I can read him all day
and kano yes. scoprion, sub, liu all are simple now.
What makes Johnny broken? Asking for a friend.
Nutty frame data, solid range, second best fatal blow in the game, probably the best low in the game, insane unbreakable damage, meterless restands and low/high forceball are ridiculously fast
16:29 😂this man
why does ninjakillas Liu Kang feel more enjoyable to watch while Rewind’s Liu Kang just feels annoying af
Cus Ninja utilizes whiff punishing to the fullest extent of the character, Rewind just abuses Lius frames.
Because even though rewind is really good his Liu is basic AF. Ninja utilizes the movement and spacing better, gets more consistent conversions and just plays the character better overall
Lol rewind seems like a bully when he’s salty
Damn sonic's a downplayer lmfao 💀
He's a smart one though
Joker has so much broken frame data that Sonic never talks about
@@advanced8998 Jack in the box is pretty difficult to deal with. But if you lab against it, its flaws are revealed.
No picture just audio?
Wait what, This ain't Liu Kang?!
Nvm, it was around half the vid.
Rewind is just having a bad day while people in the comment section are being triggered neckbeards. Lmao just chill and watch the set.
Lmao agreed
I'm always scared to use jack in the box because it's a risk that why I am so confused why you keep using it
Both need to shut the fuck up, and play. Get along!!!
You're both super good at this game.
Sonicfox will buy me PS5 lol
Bro honestly after the nerf to Johnny's pressure, Joker is better. Expecially in a casual setting because Jokers speed and fuckshit range plus Jack'n a box to keep himself safe makes it to where he could just wiff in neutral and be okay. Like dont get me wrong you can flawless block it, but you try and get a flawless block at 3000 ping consistantly.
Flawless block ruins jack in the box but it's not the easiest at all especially bc Joker can mix up the timing. That or taking the jack in the box on the way up.
@@ChemyChem Like i said: Try and consistantly flawless block it when the opponent is playing from mars basically. Its not a local tournament where connections are a constant 0 ping 100 fps. Its online with ping that usually is in the 100-250 range. And Just taking it gives your opponent a full Kombo. Which is much worse than pressure.
1joker
2liu kang
3cetrion
4johnny
Awesome!!!
It's OVER😂
19:10 so sweaty
Sonic usually has good talking Points but Nah fam I think the best 3 right now are Jackie,Joker,Liu kang in that order meaning joker is better 🃏😑 jokers set up and pressure is better and more overwhelming where especially in the corner you just have to take it and he says fuck Neutral all day
But I feel Liu being able to zone and not get zoned out makes him better or even with Joker
No liu is better hands down
@@thegreatcornholio5635 I feel like it’s a tie tbh because Joker’s set ups are too godlike. Plus that jack-in-the-box move counter zones everything. Joker can just follow that thing around like it’s his pet and you just have to hold it. Once upclose, he becomes an even bigger threat. But Liu’ stagger pressure can also be overwhelming, and plus he’s a great zoner.. so really a tie in my opinion.
@@xvi3732 no way joker has wayyy better tools than liu, I’d like to hear ur reasoning
@@edngo4117liu has everything: zoning, staggering pressure, can punish from full screen, high
mids, has many mind games from f43 and f434 string and its plus. Only thing joker has is better space control n range. Liu can naturally punish everything he does regardless of the nature of jokers push back. Only thing I might see in liu is having is whiffing issues
15:40 both of yall😂🤣
Didn’t this nigga just win NA West playing Cetrion? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Talking about he don’t play Cetrion LMAOOOOOOO
WOW!! that's crazy
Joker is mad annoying for how easy it is to use him and, he does great damage 👎. Error black is a great counter though.
Sonic bring out some more Jaqui miss seeing you play her
Make a tier list
Lmao dont worry sonic, my homie gets salty when im up some games on him too 😂
I’m not saying rewind is wrong to be disputing anything wit sonic fox but all I gotta say is who tf is rewind ?
Top 5 if not 3 mk player rn lol
Isn't that Kung Lao?
Lius his main
Lol this and the last video was just rewind complaining even though Johnny and Liu are just as S tier as Joker. Sonic already explained in his last tier list video how many punishable things Joker has while Liu and Johnny are safe for the most part. Face it rewind, sonic has been kicking your ass way before Joker dropped😂😂
Johnny isn’t on the same level as joker in my opinion , takes more skill for a pro Johnny player to win then a pro joker player Johnny at most is A tier everysense the nerfs n the rest of the cast been getting buffed
Joker is safe on literally everything what are you talking about lmao
Joker is better than both liu and Johnny especially Johnny and joker is safe on literally everything and the time when sonic explained the punishes they were not good punishes because he didn’t count for everything like different strings and he didn’t go over jokers best strings
@@Screwz_HT sonic is right joker is unsafe on a lot but it’s also BS because as Rewind said, all the strings/normals joker needs to use are safe or can be made safe.
I wanna see your fujin
I love listening to people complain about how bad thier character is, as if they are handicapped or something. If they were that bad, then you wouldn't be using them....like Shao Kahn.... Now I'd listen to a Shao Kahn main complain lol
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What up fox
Rewind really salty damm
Can you pass the salt please
Aye
Shit Ui pretty much replaced what gt caused
720p cmon sonic
Русскоязычных много смотрят Соника?
Rewind: (Complains about Sonic dancing between top tiers)
Also Rewind: ( Admits that he uses Top Tiers that he vibes with)
So then the problem isn't about using top tiers, the problem is Rewind hates fighting Sonic's Joker.
Also, anyone who plays Cetrion isn't allowed to complain about spacing. Jist saying.
Joker is better than Lui Kang and Johnny
@@advanced8998 And doesn't stop Liu Kang from being top tier, which makes the Tier conversation irrelevant.
Rewind can just admit he doesn't like fighting Joker.
And thats OK, nobody LIKES fighting Joker lol.
@@noobhero7 Joker has way more frame advantage though
His strings use a cane, fire, and a body as a projectile...it gives him incredible spacing and allows mix-ups all the while being safe
@@advanced8998 Ok? And?
I didnt say Joker isn't better. I said Liu Kang is still top tier. Joker's existence doesn't change that.
@@noobhero7 ok and?
Rewind never said Lui wasn't top tier
You're stating the obvious. Everybody knows that
If you're going to make statements at least let them be thought provoking.
Fix Joker’s whiffs
😁
Johnny and Liu require less skill and understanding of the fundamentals compared to Joker you gotta actually know how to play to get wins with him
why didn’t 15:14 kb
They probably didn't wanna waste it.
14:48 what kinda cap? Yeah Liu is rushdown that’s why everything is safe. Imagine complaining about a character not being safe on everything when HES NOT A RUSHDOWN CHARACTER. Joker has buttons that reach the length of a character, exactly why should Joker be able to stagger and be safe on everything like a rushdown character? Sonic you the goat but I don’t get it do you just want Joker to have everything ?
rewind use to be my favorite but the more im seeing him complain instead of lab, hes actually annoying now.Any time you hold jack in the box you can be punish, point blank period if you scared to take that risk or you dont have the timing down, thats on you, scar crushes almost all jokers except sonic and even in the recent Bo3 he actually got on sonics ass. Ugh rewind get it together nerd
Crazy that rewind is so good but he lets it get to his head so when he loses to the people who are God-like at this game he cant stand it and starts complaining about the characters. We cant win every single game and definitely not a majority when someone is just better overall, plus they play each other here and there so im sure by now they got each other figured out so if he’s losing then he’s just losing to a better player. He said it himself, hes not trying to be the best, so then why complain when losing to the best unless your trying to be better than them!
just say you lost n stop blaming it on the character he did not make you pick and lose w joke get over it lol
Sonic fox he has nothing else to prove now.. he is the best . He mastered every damm character in this game and same happened with injustice.. he make characters look broken.
😂
Salve
shut up rewind.. sonic is just too good for everyone to handle , that's it
Liu Kang is not the best in the game. He has many losing matchups.
Wrong
What 🤨
My record is about 4500 wins and about 1000 loses and I still don't understand the pokes or openings concept of the game
Damn sonic is annoying.
Man rewind whines so much.
And y r u whining about rewind whining
Rewhine lol
@@advanced8998 im dead
Wish you well dude. Just posting around since I don't have media anymore. I have to rely on TH-cam.
Todays ender
So they kept me up all night and it is 12p.m. right now. They have been suffocating me all night long to an extreme measure. No sleep. Nodding off here and there, but didn't fall out. In which was rnm as well. In blah state and them talking through me with voice thrower. So tonight I had loads on me and scheduled with order and permission to do this tonight. Said no sleep either. So that is today so far. U.S being mentals as always. Sucks that I don't have facebook. People can't hear directly from me all the time and the crazy people will take advantage of it. So done.
Biohazard is the best, he using mid tier 🤷🏿♂️
Who is running their mouth like that?