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no way i just uploaded my budget build video then youtube shows me the expensive version. Love it. One day i hope my channel will have something a bit more like this. For now im at the low end of the budget but still living that Bike Life
Thanks Andy, awesome video as usual and great quality. Thanks for sharing your tips 👍 💚
Nice build that one.
Full sus is defo the way to go but getting the battery mounted I'd tricky, I ended up putting mine behind the seat down the tube.
great vid mate!! I think it might be time for some higher voltage fun next? ;)
When you testing the ASI BAC 800 controller Andy with 72v ??
I am planning to convert my bike (13 Incline alpha) to electric using a mid drive motor, but I have a problem. The cables for gear changing are routed through the down tube, so it is bigger than the bottom bracket and it has a gap between it and the bracket for the cables to go out (about 15mm). It is similar to a 2021 Trek Marlin 6.Can I still fit a Bafang motor on or I should go for a hub? thanks in advance.
Anyway to use your kits on a thru axle frame, is it possible to Dremel the frame to fit do you think? Thanks for the video was very interesting guys 👍
I been thinking about the Same thing kinda,, there's some adapters maybe cut our a piece of the adapter and use torque arm's so you tread one piece of the trubolt adapter on each side of the motor outside of the 9mmqr I think it will work just fine
Idea for large ebike battery. ...fabricate a clamp on/ bolts onto frame battery holder /protective cage .Have it clamp on the frame down low for a low center of gravity.Have the battery pack spilt in 2 sections (two battery packs )so one mounts in the battery holder cage on each side of frame.the bolt on battery holder serves 2 purposes #1 to hold battery #2 to protect battery during a crash (like engine guards on a motorcycle )the bracket would be made to bolt onto the frame without needing to drill holes in the frame (a drawn picture would give you a better idea)
sounds good but what would you put to prevent shock from landing jumps being absorbed by the battery because if the battery got BMS it will shutdown the battery to avoid damage ?
do I see a Tango 2 on the desk, I prefere my x-lite with express LRS in the modual bay. How do you program the esc throttle etc, betaflight for bikes?
they look like the temp sensons i use on my 3d printers ive a spare few if u need 1
Anyone know the date they will be in stock ? Don't like preordering thanks
Hello I want to update my frame to the ebike kit full suspension but I have a 1500w motor would that take it thanks
Hi great video. Could somone pls tell me. Carrera Crossfire how long will the hub motor last like do they ware out after so many km or miles over long time use.
some of you knows about theebiketor 3000w 72v kit ? is it good ? i'm
looking for this kind of motorisation for my bike you think i can go on
this ?
Looking good thanks.
Love your videos and bikes man, encouraged me to start my own custom Ebike business! Keep it up!
Cool, glad to hear it, we actually offer trade price on all our products so let me know if you need anything.
@@andykirby hi Andy how much tax do I pay for a full kit? I understand extra charges incurring for international imports
When do the vapor kits ship looking to order one
Lol, I've been thinking about doing the same thanks to an Andy.
@@andykirby thanks Andy, should I email or contact you through cloudsto?
Nice video, I watched form the start to finish. I wish I could get in contact with you about how to build an é bike. I want a little help with what wheel to buy and batteries that ar not that expensive, and could reach 50km/h or 30mph just with the throatel. I saw a wheel that in 48v and does a battery that is 48v and 1500kw its good? Does I need to program it on the pc like you did in this video? I will be very happy if I get a response. In 6 September it's my birthday, and I wish I can make my dream e bike by that time. Having an e bike it's amazing, I hope I can build by myself
Can any give difference between the phase runner and nucular controller?
I'm so jealous of you guys!! I live in Ocala Florida where I can ride pretty much year round with decent weather but I can't find anyone to ride with. Not as much fun riding by myself.
Anyways, I love all your videos guys!!!! Keep it up!!
Aaron
Slowcala has a few around Belleview.
I did try to start a riding club on the meetup app but found nobody. Maybe I will try again on FB. Thank you for the suggestion.
@@aaronbinder6903 then get a go pro and share the rides with us. I will subscribe bro!
Hi, does anyone know if they do bigger wheels when buying a kirb ebike kit as my bike has 29 inch wheels I think gt aggressor expert 2022 large, or do I have to buy a small front wheel to match the kit size? I'm new to this so anyone that can help I would appreciate.
Great vid need to sort the rear brake out tho from hitting the hub it’s a problem Iv come across many of times with hub motors just put an extra spacer on the inside of the frame where the wheel bolts up you should be sorted 👍🏼
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hi there i have a 1000 watt wheel could i put a bigger speed controller on it ?
Hey Andy what's the best way to contact you or your shop
the front feels "sketchy" because its rear hub feed with rear suspension, tighten up the rear suspension and it will put down the power better and not feel as front end loose. If he wants stability max out the rear suspension or use a hard tail.
@@colinsmith3938 Looks like a mess, and having the battery on your back over time will mess you up.
The battery will slowly compress your spine and pull your shoulders out with each and every pump.
@@colinsmith3938 To each their own, I'm not going to judge you based on your project bike. It's great that people are creative with their builds and taking the electric bike scene to new levels, however we MUST to do it safely.
Health wise weight on your back is not a good idea. Cartilage is nothing like muscle and is not forgiving to weight.
You will also be top heavy which would make you less stable than others.
I understand the thrill of e-bikes, I have two of my own. One for my weekly shopping and one for thrills. I more than understand the lust for more speed, power and range.
I also understand the pain of coming off the bike and slamming into a brick wall at over 30mph. I walked away with minor injury's, but I would doubt that with a solid battery on my back, that is also live and could also be pulling a bike with it to hit me from behind after I've already gone into the wall.
@@colinsmith3938 I'm sorry to insult you, but you don't seem well educated about your hobby.
Accidents happen because of something that is unforeseen and can not be removed by "experience". A car pulling out in front of you can not be avoided because of your experience.
That's like you saying you're better at surviving then me because you're in your 70's and I'm 30. So time has made you better equip at life than me. That's stupidity. Simply doing something does not mean experience.
You are the very definition of "Age brings wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone".
No it's better not to but it's way too steep headtube,,looks like 90ø should be like 64 degrees then it will feel nice and give you confidence
How does he have that display with the phase runner
Hailong 2 fits on apollo gradient full suspension. 48v 17ah
Really need you help can I fit 170mm in a 190mm dropout rear wheel hub motor total axle length 240mm I’m thinking with the help of some spacers I can??
This is the setup I've want to do and the issues with packaging and battery size have kept me from moving forward. MB are much more comfortable to ride. Your other rig is nice but as a hard tail it's not the 1st choice. You guys need to make a battery to fit MBs and you'd have your own market because no one else is doing it other than sacrificing battery size/power. Thanks for the vid.
You took on board the comments about wearing a helmet. #respect. Well done guys.
You definitely need helmet, young or old. Just do it, be safe.
Hi Andy trust your well and still working on these cool projects. I've got a 1965 mobylette which I would like to convert to Elec. How can I contact you?. Only if your interested!. Regards Tim.
Dear Andy may I ask what soldering iron does Niel have I quite like the look of it I want one lol and also I think this is one of my favourite videos to watch there is a lot going on and so much to learn its wicked I still rewatch it now and then anyways hope to see more projects in the future all the best and good luck cheers
Awesome! I have the same iron it's called a TS100, awesome bit of kit and it can be updated with custom firmware to allow hotter temperatures👍🏻
@@andykirby Cheers Andy! Nice one snap! That is wicked 😎 i didn't know that it can be updated I'll be sure to get one now! It's on my list. Thanks a million!!
Damn, spot on warning the mate he's about to cut his finger!
Andy.... you are looking at Parallel group voltage on your tablet. Just saying 😛
Hi there videos is cool where can I get a faze. Running controller
I've just noticed I have the exact same front light on my bike
.... That bike is not Orange .. it's Green ... 😀👍....
The model is orange
I am trying to figure out a 125cc dirt bike with a car alternator to drive it apparently you can get 10kw out of it once you convert it to brushless.
I'm used to soldering on 2-3 inch toothpick quads and tiny whoops with tiny flight controlers and almost microscopic solder pads. I dream of soldering on large gage wiring.
could you get a 2KW hub motor up to 3KW or more by using a special controller like phaserunner and a higher voltage battery ? why isn't this more commonly done ? I know its possible to do shunt mod with a cheap controller and get big power for cheap.
I need my battery like this how do I do it
Hey I'm sending a message for help put about my ebike build. I put a 1 minute video up showing how I'm not getting the right amount of volts out of my bms and when I plug into my controller the volts drop down to 0 or 1 volt. Of you could watch the video and possibly help me out with some advice I would GREATLY appreciate it!
When are you updating you website ?!?!?
It does seem to be a major problem with building ebikes. If you want lots of power then you need rear suspension but you also need a big battery. Unfortunately you can't really have both.
Andy have same set up if you use the battery at such high speed you will kill your battery very fast I took the accelerated of mine and just use pas 20 miles an hour
is that a commencal with an orange sticker?
Can you regiser a bicycle as a moped if it's fast enough?
Not in the US, as American federal law defines an E-bike as an "electric bicycle" and a moped differently.
Why there is no controller in this bike?
how does the phase runner compare to the standard Kirby kit
Good considering the phaserunner costs a few times more than the controller used in the kirbebike kits
@@andykirby I built the trek if you recall about a year back, will I get more power with the Kirby battery and phaserunner on the Kirby 1500 watt motor?
Andy, what’s happening with the Twizy? It’s been 5 months since the last update.
Twizy is in the latest video going up tonight 😀
andy kirby thanks Andy, just bought a modified Twizy.
Why do all these awesome bikes have those tiny taint-destroying seats? 😂
I'm riding a full suspension with 3 batteries. One large pack on the top tube wedged into my seat, one hanging from the downtube and the third one barely fits in the triangle but hangs slightly out to the side. I'm using triangle bags instead of cases. They fasten to the frame quite well and looks a lot better than zip ties and exposed pack cells. I have added some foam padding inside each bag to protect everything as much as possible.
I was considering something similar. Do you switch between batteries or are they all working together? I was trying to figure out the best option for three batteries: one in the triangle, and two on the side packs of a rear rack mounted as low as possible .
@@marthamryglod291 yeah, I switch throughout the day.
@@myscreen2urs okay. Thank you for the info
I can't help but bite my tongue on this one
Quanto é o valor
Brilliant vid thanks for sharing..
Can someone help? I have a cable from my controller labeled "speed limit" I'm guessing it is a switch accessory as it had a connection with both sides connecting to each other, any idea what this is for?
it limits the controller to put out 250w. hope this helps
@@taylorpreston8502 ty, what if my motors range is stated between 500w - 5000w? Will it still only try to run 250w (with nothing happening at the motor)? Thank you
@@jasonmiddleton5491 is it a blue cable (they usually are blue cables) you don’t have to have it as I don’t have one at the moment as it will limit your motor.
@@taylorpreston8502 could I limit my pas to 250w? I have a switch to switch my throttle on and off (unregistered ebikes are not allowed a throttle) if they have a throttle then it has to be registered - will 250w run a motor rated at 500w - 5000w?
@@jasonmiddleton5491 i think you could but im not sure how you would do if with pedal assist but you could just switch off the throttle like you said.
Nice outro tune
Any links so that I can listen to the whole tune ?
You have an orange mountain bike or a green mountain bike? Me: “yes”
Cool
Haha and I get scared at 30 on mine lol
I just built my e-trike and the dropouts ripped-out right away, I'm sad. Need better forks with steel drops.
If I had that bike it would never set in a shed for weeks unless it was super cold maybe.
If i put a 3000w hub motor on a yamaha yz85 big wheel, would it still be able to go fast and do wheelies?
Great stuff Andy, I also appreciate your email back to me
30:45 what does he say? Neil was on a hard tower?
Hard tail, means no suspension on the rear👍🏻
You need to seat the tyre on properly ,, that will feel horrible on the road,,
Who ever painted that bike was colour-blind. Its green!
. Batt upside down.. more room other way round
👍
custom make one ...though late to show lol
Hi Im thinking of building an ebike, I was planning on getting something from eBay and going down cheap route. It doesn't need to be super fast as it's just for getting me too and from work mostly. Do you have any suggestions and a few tips?
i recommend whatever you choose just make sure to get the battery from someone who sells brand cells like Samsung, Sanyo, LG etc. They last longer and are certified way more than cheaper ones and I think safer too.
Oyes I can send you a picture off the Bike I must say you will like what I have Don but need your help plz
gad the same problem with my Santa Cruz heckler now have the batteries on the top tube and 1 on a rack on the back works ok bit heavy now. chuck another 1500w motor on the front much faster and very torquey with 2 motors more efficient th-cam.com/video/B3_P46C_Rm0/w-d-xo.html
Has anyone els here bought from cloudsto if so what is your experience like??? i bought about 8 items amounting to about $4,500 aud not small money and its been about 2 and a half months and i have gotten 2 of the items i bought and iv been in contact with andy and someone els from support and all im chasing is tracking numbers for my items and they dont get back to me?
Hi, sorry about this, you should have received some tracking numbers by now unless the items were not in stock when you ordered please email me directly at andy@cloudsto.com and we will look into it.
Kinda sus g
how much you selling them for!?
defenitly not under €2000
@@OfficialAlbertS Don't assume my budget ;)
but, but, but ... its **green**??
It's way too steep,,use a bike with a slack headtube
I'm not saying I'm the best e-bike builder in the world.
But I don't use any zip ties on ebikes especially for customers.
I'm glad you have made a business out of building ebikes and I'm happy to have played a part in this movement.👍🏼
👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
You really shouldn't be inhaling the solder smoke very bad for you
And completely illegal on uk roads
Ok off road though.
Nah...brakes...all the set up looks very untidy not for me...bike frame to small...looks like a teenager's school delivery paper runner...Andy with all your skills please give them your expertise and check all the wiring connectors it looks like a electrical time bomb.203mm discs upfront with 4 pots and 180 four pots on the back and the front handle bars to low..needs a steam riser.
Hey Patrick, it was a bit of a test rig, the proper battery mounting is being fabricated at the moment, the frame is a small yes because Steve rides a smaller bike. You are right about the handlebars he has since changed the stem and it handles way better now. Also agree with you about the 203 4 pot on the front, it would make a lot of difference but they are pretty pricey. Hope you are well mate.
Iv got 2000w kit how do I make it faster
@@andykirby 👌🤟👍❤ nice one mate....did you know that electrical bike sales in France have gone up by 30%...
@@jordandonald1886 ..Jordan if you want a faster bike get your self a Zero S otherwise it's all down to the size of budget...best of luck with your project...☺👍
Wtf are yous doing, electronic yes mechanical not got a clue. Rear wheel motor ... why? Midrive for mtb. And you shoudl have mounted the battery under the downtube instead of under the top tube. Keep.the weight as central.and low as possible. I have a full suspension mtb with the battery inside the frame, so it is possible.
Numpty doesn't understand the benefits of rear hub
I can't see the point of the video. It's just taking about a lot of people would not understand