Hi everyone, just to confirm all hacks and mods work as they did before with this update to FCC and 1200mw are all still good you just may need to do them again after updating. I forgot to add this to the end of the video
Great video, you scooped Bardwell. So far, So good. DJI is coming through on its promises. Hopefully we eventually get EVERYTHING from the Betaflight OSD....altitude, speed, return to home arrow....
Thanks for a great overview. I was really excited when they announced this update, but I didn't expect it to release so soon... Time to finally join the HD club!
Thank you, as found your list of 24 elements a useful reference. I made my own list by individually turning on/off an single element at a time. Now I need to compare, as don't remember seeing crosshairs and sidebars; but did enable RTH direction arrow and distance. (kind of helpful for knowing which direction baring to face for better goggle aiming.. ;) Too bad Betaflight Configuration did not just include a "DJI" option slider that grayed-out all non-supported OSD elements. Wish had the DJI Betaflight OSD info a couple months ago, as could not find on any details on Betaflight wiki. (only comment is it is not officially supported, and thus not part of the standard betaflight maintenance process ... paraphrasing, but ... ) BTW: Betaflight now has 3x OSD profiles, but only one set of element positions across all profiles, so less useful than it could be. Currently considering moving to INAV as position hold and RTH features are very compelling.
hello its been less than one week i got a brand new 5" 6s drone which included the dji goggles and i got also radiomaster+ crossfire...all updated running 1watt output on crossfire and 1200mw video and 50mbps on dji fpv..remains to add the gps module which i dont know if worth the time to solder on will it even work properly? but my main problem is that on OSD in goggles not all options appear on screen...i have the Rssi but i want the Qlink mostly and this dont appear among other options who dont appear also..is there any fix for that? as for the Rssi i m pretty sure the value showing is incorrect..i have set on TX the crossfire channel 8 to Rssi/LQ ...then on betaflight i disabled the Rssi ADG on setup screen and i set to channel 4 on the reciever tab the Rssi..then on failsafe i set the channel 4 from hold to set at 1000....where am i doing wrong? please my main question is about showing on OSD in goggles the Qlink value..that i care mostly
DO you need a flight controller with an OSD built into it to get OSD in the DJI goggles? I'm assuming so, unless the air unit is pulling OSD information from somewhere else? So for instance, could you use the Holybro Kakute F7 Tekko32 F3 HDV Stack, which doesn't have an OSD on the flight controller and get betaflight OSD information on the DJI goggles? Or would you have to use a different flight controller with a OSD chip on it? If so, do you have any recommendations of a good flight controller with a OSD chip on board and a voltage regulator to hook the Air unit up to so I can run it on 6s? Thanks for the great video)
I have a matek f405 std with the latest firmware on betaflight. All wiring is correct, the msp is correct to uart4 where wires are connected. I still get no osd.
Does the goggle DVR record all the betaflight OSD elements or are they stripped away? Would hope the DVR footage captures things like gps coordinates for quad retrieval.
I have version 2 of GOOGLES and I have updated the firmware, both in the glasses, the drone and the transmitter. I have read that this update completes the vision of the Betafligth OSD, but when I look at the firmware version for the Air Units, it has not been updated nor does it allow updating ... Is that so?
Hi thanks for the video. Maybe I missed it in the video, but do you need BF 4.0+ to get the BF OSD working? I just updated my goggles and air unit and can switch on Custom OSD, but nothing shows up. My OSD is programmed correctly in Betaflight, Telemetry is enabled, and MSP is on the correct UART. I'm currently on BF 3.5.7. Thanks!
Hi great info.. I don't seem to be able to move some features.. Eg in BF osd I can move the 'mbps' but in the Goggles V2 they remain in same place, ie bottom right hand corner..? Thanks to advise why this is.. 👍
In Betaflight I can't get the DisableOSD slider bar under MODES to have any effect on turn on or off the actual OSD in the DJI goggles The OSD stays on regardless whether the tic is in the zone and it's highlighted or not via being bound to a switch on a transmitter channel. Turning the Custom OSD on or off inside the DJI Goggles under Display works, but at either in the OFF or ON position, it has no effect on allowing Betaflight to turn the OSD on or off. At least for me. I guess maybe it depends on your flight controller / osd chip, and your mileage may vary?
You can not turn on and off the OSd from that part of betaflight. That to control the onboard OSD chip. DJI is using the MSP protocol to communicate and overlay the data and it’s entirely separate from that setting.
Can I ask you about mw power (for UK) I’m new to fpv and finding your vids really helpful. Literally just learnt about “hacking” it and giving me 700mw option from the locked 25mw it gave me. Would 25mw have been the reason my quad fell out of the sky today. Suddenly and for no papers to reason. I wasn’t that far from the quad. (Can see myself in drone footage just before it falls but I was facing away from drone with drone behind me. ) Any clues?
Its very hard to know tbh. 25MW in its self wont cause a crash however falling out of signal and depending on your fail safe settings. really the log needs to be looked at.
I have no idea on this one, I’m trying to get some answers. It’s a strange one as nothing is shown at all in the firmware. If you had GPS it could pull the data from MSP for distance from home but that’s about all I can think off.
You can tell relative distance from packet return time because the system is bidirectional. The farther you are away, the longer it takes a packet to make a round trip. By knowing power levels and packet return time at various distances in testing, DJI can estimate distance.
@@protonus I'd be rather surprised if that was the strategy used. The "round trip" time would be just 6uS and that could easily be less than the jitter imposed by the processing of a received packet and the generation of an ACK -- but who knows.
@@xjet Oh hey, didn't notice that was you xjet :-) Now that I know I'm talking to someone with a brain haha, let me share more. Re: this timing suggestion, I'm actually just parroting information from someone who is much more familiar about RF than I am - Hugo @ TrueRC! Backstory, there was a thought in DJI groups, that the new DJI system was somehow limiting people to 4mi exactly, as the system would rapidly degrade and disconnect for many users at this distance. It turns out that this is probably due to some poor design choices on the VAS Cyclops that these users were using, as folks with twin TrueRX X-Airs have gone further and see less dramatic fall off, however, I think that is what this "distance improivement" is aiming to address - trade some quality for greater range, so signal doesn't plummet as quick. At any rate, the original quote from Hugo about this is as follows: "the amimon had a 1km limit programmed. By time keying the data packet it could calculate distance tx to rx. - Hugo Chamberland". Thread is here: facebook.com/groups/DJI.FPV/permalink/2754649981259773/?comment_id=2754672764590828
Hey buddy, thanks to Share all this information. But I have a question...I update for the new firmware and how I have all the OSD on the screen, but on my test flight the rssi signal is always on 99% it doesn't change!!!!!! What I need to do? Thanks ;)
OSD: are you sure you will have Lan and Long recorded on your goggles incase of a crash? I think the goggles only rec the standard OSD values (like volts...)
@@MadRC After Xmas I would think. Really curious about that 1km+ bitrate and bandwidth setting too but same as you can't find it anywhere in the menus.
Yes it does, i have one and it works well for voltage, i havent tried the new stuff yet. Make sure to enable MSP on UART1 and it should work by default.
@@matthewharmon6015 thanks, I'm aware regarding voltage, my question is related to the new OSD options. But I guess if voltage is working the new ones should as well.
nice video as always mate, just a question, i can see all good on osd, LQ from crossfire, gps sats etc, but cant see the average cell voltage. Do you have any clue? i just see 0.00 v, but is weird, couse i can still see the other general voltage value from the bf osd... dont know Thanks for your nice work!
Hello Mad's, ...I have Mamba F722 has 6 each Uarts. And after firmware 4.1.5 has : VCP at msp Uart1 at Serial RX Uart2, Uart3 Uart4 at msp Uart5, Uart6 Where choice Uart for DJI to connect cable Rx Tx from Air Unit?
You can use any of the free ones. I would set it to UART 4 making sure you cross the TX and RX lines. For the custom OSD you will need to turn off MSP.
Thank you for the video, big help. I am having a problem though, I can get the OSD to work in the goggles, everything is showing and I can position everything, only problem I am having is the the battery voltage etc is not giving me a reading? it constantly sits at 0, I am using a T MOTOR F4 stack (dji plug and play version) is there anything you can suggest to help sort this?
I am currently using the DJI controller, and my RSSI reads 0 all the time. Do we use an aux channel in the BF receivers tab? Or does the RSSI only work for people running crossfire?
What do you mean by uart conected to msp?? Im running revolt osd!! I have it all working correct expect no Betaflight osd!! I have my crossfire on rx1 and my airunit on tx4 and rx4!! Is this correct??
Didn’t realise there are different versions of MSP. Unless you are a BF user there is no gain. Do you know if future I-nav support is planned? I need RTH capability if possible. Does it work with Cleanflight?
Hello again, I have purchased a second air unit. I am under the assumption I can bind a second unit to the same goggles and controller. Is that a safe assumption?
Does anyone know.how to turn off the low voltage alarm in the goggles (for the goggles)? I'm using 4x 18650's and the alarm comes on at 13.8v. should be able to go down to 10v to get the capacity out of them??
Hi everyone, just to confirm all hacks and mods work as they did before with this update to FCC and 1200mw are all still good you just may need to do them again after updating.
I forgot to add this to the end of the video
thx for pointing this out, very important 😁
I ran 700 mW today without problem.
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I wish to see the peripherals in the final video, just like you see in the osd
Great video, you scooped Bardwell. So far, So good. DJI is coming through on its promises. Hopefully we eventually get EVERYTHING from the Betaflight OSD....altitude, speed, return to home arrow....
Wow..faster than Joshua :-)
Thanks for a great overview. I was really excited when they announced this update, but I didn't expect it to release so soon... Time to finally join the HD club!
Thanks for this video and thanks DJI they are doing the right things for us! :)
Thanks for the video.... Hopefully they get to work the artificial horizon and timer...
Right Dji and Madrc! Doing this update right now! Sweeeet! Maybe even the analog mod! Happy Hd flying!
Thank you, as found your list of 24 elements a useful reference. I made my own list by individually turning on/off an single element at a time. Now I need to compare, as don't remember seeing crosshairs and sidebars; but did enable RTH direction arrow and distance. (kind of helpful for knowing which direction baring to face for better goggle aiming.. ;)
Too bad Betaflight Configuration did not just include a "DJI" option slider that grayed-out all non-supported OSD elements.
Wish had the DJI Betaflight OSD info a couple months ago, as could not find on any details on Betaflight wiki. (only comment is it is not officially supported, and thus not part of the standard betaflight maintenance process ... paraphrasing, but ... )
BTW: Betaflight now has 3x OSD profiles, but only one set of element positions across all profiles, so less useful than it could be.
Currently considering moving to INAV as position hold and RTH features are very compelling.
Just excellent. Only thing I'm hoping for now is video out for streaming.
Thank you DJI! Please update for iNav OSD too.
DJI says this is on iNAV, not them. iNAV is apparently not using standard MSP implementation that betaflight is.
@@protonus Ok I see. Then I wait for iNav devs to use standard MSP someday. I believe they will. Thank you!
hello its been less than one week i got a brand new 5" 6s drone which included the dji goggles and i got also radiomaster+
crossfire...all updated running 1watt output on crossfire and 1200mw video and 50mbps on dji fpv..remains to add the gps module which i dont know if worth the time to solder on will it even work properly? but my main problem is that on OSD in goggles not all options appear on screen...i have the Rssi but i want the Qlink mostly and this dont appear among other options who dont appear also..is there any fix for that? as for the Rssi i m pretty sure the value showing is incorrect..i have set on TX the crossfire channel 8 to Rssi/LQ ...then on betaflight i disabled the Rssi ADG on setup screen and i set to channel 4 on the reciever tab the Rssi..then on failsafe i set the channel 4 from hold to set at 1000....where am i doing wrong? please my main question is about showing on OSD in goggles the Qlink value..that i care mostly
So do I now cancel my order for HDO2's ?
Give them away instead, I know a guy who would love to try them 😜😀
@@MadRC Clever guy :D
DO you need a flight controller with an OSD built into it to get OSD in the DJI goggles? I'm assuming so, unless the air unit is pulling OSD information from somewhere else?
So for instance, could you use the Holybro Kakute F7 Tekko32 F3 HDV Stack, which doesn't have an OSD on the flight controller and get betaflight OSD information on the DJI goggles? Or would you have to use a different flight controller with a OSD chip on it?
If so, do you have any recommendations of a good flight controller with a OSD chip on board and a voltage regulator to hook the Air unit up to so I can run it on 6s?
Thanks for the great video)
Yes it has to be a BF OSD compatible controller.
I have a matek f405 std with the latest firmware on betaflight. All wiring is correct, the msp is correct to uart4 where wires are connected. I still get no osd.
Does the goggle DVR record all the betaflight OSD elements or are they stripped away? Would hope the DVR footage captures things like gps coordinates for quad retrieval.
nothing is recorded currently, its a clean feed.
Ok, Dji now you are just showing off, I guess I will just have to buy the system.
Do it you won't regret it.
I have version 2 of GOOGLES and I have updated the firmware, both in the glasses, the drone and the transmitter. I have read that this update completes the vision of the Betafligth OSD, but when I look at the firmware version for the Air Units, it has not been updated nor does it allow updating ... Is that so?
Thanks for the update. Great news.
Again. Very useful!
(Commenting to help your algorithm:) )
can you tell me why OSD info is not available, in the DJI goggles, when using the analog adapter?
Hi thanks for the video. Maybe I missed it in the video, but do you need BF 4.0+ to get the BF OSD working? I just updated my goggles and air unit and can switch on Custom OSD, but nothing shows up. My OSD is programmed correctly in Betaflight, Telemetry is enabled, and MSP is on the correct UART. I'm currently on BF 3.5.7.
Thanks!
I think I answered my own question...updated to 4.1.1 and up it came! So apparently you need at least BF 4.0 (or perhaps 4.0.5 in your case?)
It’s not been confirmed but yes it appears to be the case.
Hi great info.. I don't seem to be able to move some features.. Eg in BF osd I can move the 'mbps' but in the Goggles V2 they remain in same place, ie bottom right hand corner..?
Thanks to advise why this is.. 👍
In Betaflight I can't get the DisableOSD slider bar under MODES to have
any effect on turn on or off the actual OSD in the DJI goggles The OSD
stays on regardless whether the tic is in the zone and it's highlighted
or not via being bound to a switch on a transmitter channel.
Turning
the Custom OSD on or off inside the DJI Goggles under Display works,
but at either in the OFF or ON position, it has no effect on allowing
Betaflight to turn the OSD on or off. At least for me. I guess
maybe it depends on your flight controller / osd chip, and your mileage
may vary?
You can not turn on and off the OSd from that part of betaflight. That to control the onboard OSD chip. DJI is using the MSP protocol to communicate and overlay the data and it’s entirely separate from that setting.
Thanks I got my OSD working ❤️
Great 👍
Can I ask you about mw power (for UK)
I’m new to fpv and finding your vids really helpful.
Literally just learnt about “hacking” it and giving me 700mw option from the locked 25mw it gave me.
Would 25mw have been the reason my quad fell out of the sky today. Suddenly and for no papers to reason.
I wasn’t that far from the quad. (Can see myself in drone footage just before it falls but I was facing away from drone with drone behind me. )
Any clues?
P.s. I have DJI goggs, air unit and RC. And a BNF DC5 from Quadcopters.co.uk
Its very hard to know tbh. 25MW in its self wont cause a crash however falling out of signal and depending on your fail safe settings. really the log needs to be looked at.
How does it know when the distance is more than 1Km when I'm flying my miniquad without GPS?
I have no idea on this one, I’m trying to get some answers. It’s a strange one as nothing is shown at all in the firmware. If you had GPS it could pull the data from MSP for distance from home but that’s about all I can think off.
It’s likely a setting that you employ when you plan on flying >1km, not a change that takes place once you travel past 1km.
You can tell relative distance from packet return time because the system is bidirectional. The farther you are away, the longer it takes a packet to make a round trip. By knowing power levels and packet return time at various distances in testing, DJI can estimate distance.
@@protonus I'd be rather surprised if that was the strategy used. The "round trip" time would be just 6uS and that could easily be less than the jitter imposed by the processing of a received packet and the generation of an ACK -- but who knows.
@@xjet Oh hey, didn't notice that was you xjet :-) Now that I know I'm talking to someone with a brain haha, let me share more. Re: this timing suggestion, I'm actually just parroting information from someone who is much more familiar about RF than I am - Hugo @ TrueRC! Backstory, there was a thought in DJI groups, that the new DJI system was somehow limiting people to 4mi exactly, as the system would rapidly degrade and disconnect for many users at this distance. It turns out that this is probably due to some poor design choices on the VAS Cyclops that these users were using, as folks with twin TrueRX X-Airs have gone further and see less dramatic fall off, however, I think that is what this "distance improivement" is aiming to address - trade some quality for greater range, so signal doesn't plummet as quick. At any rate, the original quote from Hugo about this is as follows:
"the amimon had a 1km limit programmed. By time keying the data packet it could calculate distance tx to rx. - Hugo Chamberland". Thread is here: facebook.com/groups/DJI.FPV/permalink/2754649981259773/?comment_id=2754672764590828
Absolutely awesome!!! Thanks man
Hey buddy, thanks to Share all this information.
But I have a question...I update for the new firmware and how I have all the OSD on the screen, but on my test flight the rssi signal is always on 99% it doesn't change!!!!!! What I need to do?
Thanks
;)
Thank you for your fine videos!
Does dji digital googles finally shows inav gps home arrow, gps altitude and speed?
Yea it should all work now.
OSD: are you sure you will have Lan and Long recorded on your goggles incase of a crash? I think the goggles only rec the standard OSD values (like volts...)
No I meant it’s visible. No osd is recorded at this time.
Trying to hook up the dji system to my diatone 369 hardware.. it has a F7 flight controller
Thank you for this video! What analog reciever do you recommend to plug in to the av input if I dont want to do the mod?
Alt and speed were the only ones I wanted!! 🙈
Same here!
Yep I really need the altimeter too.
Hopefully with the next update. Something require more coding than others.
@@MadRC After Xmas I would think. Really curious about that 1km+ bitrate and bandwidth setting too but same as you can't find it anywhere in the menus.
@@changeagent228 yes, on the positives updates are coming monthly which is great 👍
Thanks for the info brother😉
What do you think, what is better dji controller or any taranis + crossfire or r9?
As always great information! What is the likelyhood of DJI supporting INAV OSD?
They do already, Inav added DJI OSD Support already.
Mad's Tech , so you can see the OSD from say, a Matek f411 on the DJI goggles? Or is it a simple generic OSD?
The battery usage is always at full, is there a way for that to be more accurate and display the correct usage?
how about the flip after crash arrow?
Is the warnings really working on OSD??
Dose this still work if your not using the DJI remote? I have a Jumper T16 with TBS crossfire.
Osd does yes.
So i see the screen elements working - can you tell me if the betaflight menu is visible in the dji screen?
No you can not get Betaflight screens but you can change PID settings ect.
Amazing!!! Mad RC do you know if the Kakute F7 HDV Flight controller supports the betaflight OSD?
Yes it does, i have one and it works well for voltage, i havent tried the new stuff yet. Make sure to enable MSP on UART1 and it should work by default.
@@matthewharmon6015 thanks, I'm aware regarding voltage, my question is related to the new OSD options. But I guess if voltage is working the new ones should as well.
@@mariniam reports on rcgroups say it works on kakute
@@paulmunro3050 thanks!
nice video as always mate, just a question, i can see all good on osd, LQ from crossfire, gps sats etc, but cant see the average cell voltage. Do you have any clue? i just see 0.00 v, but is weird, couse i can still see the other general voltage value from the bf osd... dont know
Thanks for your nice work!
That’s odd as I’m 99% mine was showing. Actually check it in the video lol. Do you have the battery type setup in Betaflight power settings ?
No osd rssi using dji radio?
Thanks. Curious that when you select 'flight mode' ... stab/ility...it comes up as....Horizon...?
@@Skankhunt-42- on screen 'stab'...check it out.
Does warning work sir?
Hello Mad's, ...I have Mamba F722 has 6 each Uarts. And after firmware 4.1.5 has :
VCP at msp
Uart1 at Serial RX
Uart2, Uart3
Uart4 at msp
Uart5, Uart6
Where choice Uart for DJI to connect cable Rx Tx from Air Unit?
You can use any of the free ones. I would set it to UART 4 making sure you cross the TX and RX lines. For the custom OSD you will need to turn off MSP.
Thank you. I will connect cable Caddx Vista air unit to Uart4 (MSP to Off and pereperal DJI to ON)
Thank you for the video, big help.
I am having a problem though, I can get the OSD to work in the goggles, everything is showing and I can position everything, only problem I am having is the the battery voltage etc is not giving me a reading? it constantly sits at 0, I am using a T MOTOR F4 stack (dji plug and play version) is there anything you can suggest to help sort this?
Have you configured the power options on Betaflight for your setup as it’s simply reading what your FC is telling it.
@@MadRC ermmm no I haven't, would you mind telling me how to do this? Thank you.
@@everything_amg yes I wish to know how to set up voltage too.
Did you check the fcc hack if it's work on this update??
FCC and Power hacks still work
I am currently using the DJI controller, and my RSSI reads 0 all the time. Do we use an aux channel in the BF receivers tab? Or does the RSSI only work for people running crossfire?
RSS is not working at this time as a reading as DJI are not providing it as data.
Mine reads 99 and 4 bars as a standard?
What do you mean by uart conected to msp?? Im running revolt osd!! I have it all working correct expect no Betaflight osd!! I have my crossfire on rx1 and my airunit on tx4 and rx4!! Is this correct??
I'm wondering the same thing
Oh shit gps home arrow doesn't work. I just ordered LR quad with DJI
I'm struggling to see anything other then flight pack voltage when using I-nav. Is there a specific setting I need to use with I-nav?
Inav is not supported for custom OSD as it’s using a diferent MSP version to Betaflight.
Didn’t realise there are different versions of MSP. Unless you are a BF user there is no gain. Do you know if future I-nav support is planned? I need RTH capability if possible. Does it work with Cleanflight?
Any idea if this will work with iNav as well? or is this specific to betaflight?
Betaflight only at this time. But there is a lot of Inav chatter now so hopefully we will see soon.
why is the osd from Beta isn't showing when playing back the footage on the Goggles?
It’s not recorded onto the SD it’s live overlay only.
@@MadRC Thanks for the response, that kind of sad if you need to find the quad with the GPS info!
Did you have to re-bind after software was upgraded ?
I did not have too but some may find it drops the connection.
Will I have to re hack this to keep my 1200 mw
Hello again, I have purchased a second air unit. I am under the assumption I can bind a second unit to the same goggles and controller. Is that a safe assumption?
Yes you can
My analog AV input HANG! Clash my quad today. Dunno what happend....
YES!!
No home Arrow!?!?!?!?!?! next to mah drawn that is what I have been waiting on the most.. Grrr
Home arrow has been confirmed to be coming in a future update, perhaps in the next few months.
Does anyone know.how to turn off the low voltage alarm in the goggles (for the goggles)? I'm using 4x 18650's and the alarm comes on at 13.8v. should be able to go down to 10v to get the capacity out of them??
10v would reck your battery mate
@@gregmeskens8475 I thought lithium ion can go down to 2.5v safely? I know it's a no with lipo
@@carlwhitaker5151 my bad buddy, didnt know u referred to Li-Ion.
Thanks Mad RC
Hi, the OSD Horizon Sidebars are displayed, but they do not change when I move the board (Mater F722SE). Does anyone else have this problem?
That’s Normal the DJI ladders don’t actually move.
LQ?
1200mw hack is still available ?
Yep no changes there
Nice
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