I graded cards with PSA for the FIRST time in 2.5 YEARS (AMAZING RESULTS)! 🤯🔥

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  • I graded my baseball and basketball sports cards with Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) for the first time in over 2 years for our latest collectible trading card unboxing haul! PSA is the current industry leader in card grading and authentication, and their slabs command a premium! After some bad experiences, I stopped using their grading for a while, but I finally decided to try them again. I sent in 25 cards worth over $5,000 as part of this submission. I looked them all over closely prior to sending them, and it paid off with a crazy high gem rate! 15 of the 25 cards got Gem Mint 10 grades, and none got under a 9! Overall, I am happy with the experience and the grades I got from this sub. Who should we grade cards with next (PSA, BGS, SGC, Arena Club)?
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  • @PackmanCards
    @PackmanCards  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

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    • @TheoKimMusic
      @TheoKimMusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Becket because the cases look way cooler and it has more value than other companies if the grade is higher

    • @chrisssharpcornerswilliams6381
      @chrisssharpcornerswilliams6381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beckett

    • @misterluther1916
      @misterluther1916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like arena club simply for the turn around time!!❤

    • @mr.bengal5963
      @mr.bengal5963 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice

    • @TabiRips
      @TabiRips 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like PSA. What do you think about TAG?

  • @MichaelCater
    @MichaelCater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I prefer the TAG approach to grading. PSA, while the industry "standard", I believe that they need to adapt to computer aided (AI) grading. The human eye is flawed...

    • @Teabagonyou
      @Teabagonyou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you know Tag isn’t AI grading? 🤦‍♂️

    • @MichaelCater
      @MichaelCater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Teabagonyou "At TAG, we prefer the more accurate term "machine-learning" over "AI" when it comes to our describing our grading process and methodology.
      TAG’s multi-patented grading system is built around machine-learning image capture software which analyzes cards for defects, damage and imperfections. This system allows TAG to grade cards definitively without human bias. Furthermore, TAG’s technology identifies non-human-observable defects on a card - these defects found on the card do not fall within the threshold for industry-standard grading, but are used to create digital fingerprints of each TAG'd card."
      Machine learning is AI in another "word".

    • @MichaelCater
      @MichaelCater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Teabagonyou Machine learning is an application of AI. It's the process of using mathematical models of data to help a computer learn without direct instruction. This enables a computer system to continue learning and improving on its own, based on experience.

    • @MichaelCater
      @MichaelCater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Teabagonyou did you know that TAG is AI Grading? 🤦‍♂

    • @Teabagonyou
      @Teabagonyou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MichaelCater Maybe you should do more research it’s not AI grading. Jeremy Lee explained it because many including yourself are confused. They use technology to assist them in grading and won’t divulge exactly what that means.

  • @elkay5230
    @elkay5230 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Would love to see you going through a stack of cards and deciding whether to grade them or not

  • @DeuceTreyz
    @DeuceTreyz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Yo Packman, I'm sure a lot of the hobby could use a 2024 Refresher about the submitting process etc. Good video!

    • @PackmanCards
      @PackmanCards  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Thanks! Hoping to get more grading content out this year!

    • @braydenmatias
      @braydenmatias 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      There are a million tutorials on TH-cam. It’s also pretty straightforward

    • @meltedvanilluxe942
      @meltedvanilluxe942 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just read the instructions PSA provides on their website it’s really not complicated

  • @JuanMartinez-hw3uc
    @JuanMartinez-hw3uc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Grading card videos are always a fun to watch! I love seeing the cards always graded. Post more for sure! Keep up the great work Pac-man we’re all proud of you!

  • @benzosbreaks-bam
    @benzosbreaks-bam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So far, I have only sent cards to PSA, but i agree, it would be nice of them to say why the cards were graded the way they were.

  • @transamdude95
    @transamdude95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd love a video from start to finish selecting which of your cards to grade and why, prepping those cards, and then packing to ship to PSA or whoever. 👍

  • @NotKD35
    @NotKD35 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean this with zero negativity at all.. genuinely, I’m impressed by just how business savvy this is.
    You make a video showing off the graded cards which gets you some of that grading cost back plus eyes on the cards. Didn’t think much of it until you said these will all be on sell on whatnot auctions. You’re basically getting some funds back plus these cards in front of a ton of potential buyers. Someone sees something they can afford and really like.. now they’re ready for the whatnot auction. You wind up selling the cards for more and getting some views. Genius way to showcase upcoming auction cards plus give non-buyers a quality video. You’re the man

  • @airricky
    @airricky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think doing a larger amount of cards with Arena (because it’s cheaper) would be fun! I personally like the grading vids

  • @Tac0maAr0ma
    @Tac0maAr0ma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just discovered Tag Grading and really love how much data they collect and display exactly why your card gets the grade it does

    • @Yit27
      @Yit27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I like tag because they use the same greater every time which is technology

    • @Yit27
      @Yit27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grader*

    • @Tac0maAr0ma
      @Tac0maAr0ma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yit27 exactly

  • @Hunter24135
    @Hunter24135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would like to see more graded card vids. Love the videos keep up the good work with the video quality and the big pulls

    • @PackmanCards
      @PackmanCards  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Got some more grading stuff planned for the future!

  • @Nimbatik
    @Nimbatik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely love watching card grade reveal videos! Thanks for the great content Packman.

  • @ytsteviej
    @ytsteviej 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video. I have a bunch of cards to grade, excited to see how they come out. Please do more of these.

    • @flawlessvic
      @flawlessvic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What were your results?

    • @ytsteviej
      @ytsteviej 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @flawlessvic I haven't gotten any back yet. Thanks for asking

  • @nickmrkela7335
    @nickmrkela7335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More of this stuff please :) Awesome stuff!

  • @user-ql4by3iw9d
    @user-ql4by3iw9d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Card grade reveal videos are the best! Thanks for the fantastic content.

  • @TradingPatriots
    @TradingPatriots 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For modern: BGS is my favourite for the look + subgrades. For vintage: SGC. But for pure market value PSA is king.

  • @PonderosaPlayboy
    @PonderosaPlayboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love to see an arena club unboxing after grading. Love the virtual vault but would love to see and actual graded card

  • @NoSoup4U1987
    @NoSoup4U1987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the videos Pack! Always fun seeing PSA/grading videos, seeing what grades you get! 🔥🔥

  • @zakbrady8662
    @zakbrady8662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the graded card videos, my biggest problem with sending cards from Australia we sometimes have a ridiculous turnaround on cards

  • @badapple5274
    @badapple5274 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PSA grade card videos are fun to watch. should definitely do more in the future👍

  • @ArthurDearinger
    @ArthurDearinger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MR PACKMAN, YOU HAVE ALOT OF NICE CARDS!! THANK YOU, FOR SHARING.

    • @PackmanCards
      @PackmanCards  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

  • @albertolam915
    @albertolam915 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like it, when you take your time to see the card and the longer the video, the better

  • @85GOCARDS
    @85GOCARDS 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also like TAG process and details the best, but PSA and BGS are definitely still the top value.

  • @iansinsight
    @iansinsight 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m all for seeing more baseball vids on the channel!

  • @GabeTheCollector
    @GabeTheCollector 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see you still repping AC and that it wasn’t a one and done thing. Personally I’m behind AC completely, I love the transparency in their grading, and besides that the value is insane. $10 per card to grade, vault, and access the platform (that allows you to buy sell and trade) is just the way of the future. Hope if enough of us commit to changing what we accept as the industry standard Companies like AC or even alternatives as others mentioned like TAG can thrive and become more acceptable as an industry standard. Change can’t happen unless we commit to it

  • @huxbux
    @huxbux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love PSA reveals. Always interested to see what people are sending in.

  • @sethward7020
    @sethward7020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some nice results, thinking about grading some myself.

  • @MegaChad77
    @MegaChad77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations on the 10’s. PSA is my favorite. I like the clear case with the white paper info on top. It looks good together.

    • @PackmanCards
      @PackmanCards  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Definitely a clean design!

  • @dylanmaki6295
    @dylanmaki6295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a big fan of Arena Club. I've sent subs to all of the major grading companies and with AC I get a great understanding of grades, great value, great turnaround and I like the look of the slabs.

  • @donpatton1762
    @donpatton1762 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm excited I just sent in my 1st cards ever to be graded threw Arena Club. Watching your videos is what got me to start collecting again. So thank you for that. 🤩

  • @Greg_Johnson_1986
    @Greg_Johnson_1986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer FCG Forensic Card Grading for my PC Cards.
    They are super strict, but they give you sub grades along with a QR code on the case that you can scan that will show you the grader’s notes.
    PSA would rock the hobby if they started including sub grades.
    Have a good day!

  • @JacksonTalksSports
    @JacksonTalksSports 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    new to collecting in 2024 and I have been watching all of your new videos and its so helpful and fun to watch

  • @weesnaw2902
    @weesnaw2902 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would absolutely love to see more of this. And THAT GUNNAR!!!!!

  • @tz41
    @tz41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love SGC, they're so great -- similar value to PSA but so much better customer service

  • @slummyfpsgaming
    @slummyfpsgaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Give away entry comment*
    And my thoughts on grading is,if it’s a huge hit I’m grading it regardless if it’s PC or flipping.but 99% of the cards I think is a waste to grade.🤷🏻‍♂️
    Hope y’all have a good weekend!

  • @NefariousFIG
    @NefariousFIG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the sound that slabs make when they gently bang against each other

  • @PackedTC
    @PackedTC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another awesome vid Packman! This was some amazing results. I’ll be making a video about sending some cards off to grade soon as well. 💪🏻🔥

  • @XavierClookey
    @XavierClookey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We want to see more I haven’t graded but it’s fun watching you grade

  • @EdwardSmith-mk5ge
    @EdwardSmith-mk5ge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice cards and good grades. I like PSA. Definitely prefer BGS over PSA due to the subgrades and the thicker cases

  • @jeremyfischer396
    @jeremyfischer396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only grade with PSA. I just prefer the aesthetic and feel of their slab

  • @vintiquesokc
    @vintiquesokc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PSA supposedly has graders notes for grading in the works, I am sure it will start on higher tier grading and trickle down similar to how image scans did when they updated that.

  • @jeremylandry9104
    @jeremylandry9104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love seeing the Card Submissions opening, keep it coming!

  • @christheese3964
    @christheese3964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have graded one card, it’s a Lebron James Fleer rookie. I agree it’s a fairly simple process to get graded, I think also just to have the graded PSA case is cool in itself.

  • @JerryBracken-vr5ml
    @JerryBracken-vr5ml 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always nice seeing the final results.

  • @Mi11erThri11er
    @Mi11erThri11er 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome seeing the graded cards!

  • @bmarko
    @bmarko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. More PSA pls. Can you do a video showing you selecting cards for grading?

  • @moosepoppa
    @moosepoppa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you do to prep cards before you send them for grading? You should do a video on that for the peeps!

  • @fluidmtion
    @fluidmtion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Pack! I like these Graded card reveals. It's always very informational to me.

  • @EbbTide33
    @EbbTide33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First, PSA reveals are one of my favorite TH-cam watches. I hope you continue to provide PSA reveals.
    Personally, I prefer the TAG slabs best and am incorporating TAG into my PC collection. However, I grade the cards I plan to sell with PSA. PSA graded cards seem to fetch a higher price. Thanks.

  • @brianconrow5281
    @brianconrow5281 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You got some nice cards there. I love football and basketball love watching your videos of them. Thanks Brian . Thanks again for I hit that Jonathan Taylor when you broke that case of Prizm last week what a great card.

  • @charlesmartinez9173
    @charlesmartinez9173 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had never graded anything before. But I really like Arena Club! I like the transparency, the price, quick turnaround and the look of the slabs.

  • @atotheb2176
    @atotheb2176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely agree with the subgrades with psa, but psa also sells at a premium relative to all other grading.

  • @user-rr7vr8fz7n
    @user-rr7vr8fz7n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love seeing the baseball showcased more on the channel

  • @cardinal_trading
    @cardinal_trading 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s tough to not sub with SGC at the moment for their affordable prices and fast turn around. As far as slab eye appeal, BGS gold & black labels are king. PSA slabs next. Then SGC 3rd. If SGC would update their slabs and/or labels, they would rise significantly in value 📈 IMO.

  • @outwest100az
    @outwest100az 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe some hockey would be nice being the season of snow. I would also like to thank you for making me pay alot more attention to my own collection and I may be a seller at some time soon.

  • @ScaryTerryCards
    @ScaryTerryCards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome grades on those baseball cards. Loved the last few!

  • @dadssportscards
    @dadssportscards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love seeing what you send off and what results you get!!! Thanks!

  • @pepayye
    @pepayye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I personally like TAG grading. If you like sub grades I think you would like TAG as well. PSA just feels a little behind times given today’s technology.

    • @WillOgden-sr7tq
      @WillOgden-sr7tq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s why I like bgs

  • @leonardquintana650
    @leonardquintana650 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s up packman, I have tried a company from California called Electric grading the labels are next level for $15 you get a costom label for each card or for $10 you get a color match label to the color of the cards the grades are accurate also and a 15 day turnaround not to bad , much love Leonard

  • @tabiohana2705
    @tabiohana2705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do more of these, li e your channel and want to see more of your cards graded

  • @justinquintana1800
    @justinquintana1800 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Packmannn! Great content, look forward to seeing you grade more cards through psa

  • @FreshCoolYoungCrew
    @FreshCoolYoungCrew 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like Rare Edition, but they haven't gained much traction. The quality of the slabs are amazing!

  • @shelnock
    @shelnock 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i don’t really comment a lot but post more graded cards seeing things like this and your eye for it’s fun to watch and u don’t wast time or have bad lighting like others😂

  • @bungiebenno536
    @bungiebenno536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer psa myself but trying to get a black label from bgs sounds very appealing. You could try chase a black label for a vid seeing you have such a good eye

  • @joshuamartinez8466
    @joshuamartinez8466 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PSA 10 just keeps the resell value higher than others obviously hope that changes in the future

  • @Kuhlsportscards
    @Kuhlsportscards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see more of this

  • @derekkeller6383
    @derekkeller6383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used to be a Beckett guy but after last national, had lot better experience with PSA. Def going with them more often in the future even though I like Beckett’s slabs better

  • @PeterParkerPickledPeppers
    @PeterParkerPickledPeppers 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More graded cards, please!

  • @brendenkinnee
    @brendenkinnee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have become an SGC guy. their times are reasonable and I find them to be pretty reputable. Also reasonable pricing IMO always have great specials.

  • @xlstaal18lx
    @xlstaal18lx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love watching these graded vids.

  • @williamrollins9408
    @williamrollins9408 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive always thought about PSA grading cards but never fully grasped the idea/costs

  • @RonLoranger-cz9tb
    @RonLoranger-cz9tb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love those last 2 diamond autos of Carroll and Henderson,

  • @ryanleeds2329
    @ryanleeds2329 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should do a vintage SGC submission

  • @joelloyd9985
    @joelloyd9985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!! I have a 40 card submission in PSA which is the only company I've used and I have one value plus Stroud neon green pulsar from the ONE mega I opened. I opened 6 prizm basketball and didn't get ANYTHING..oh well that's how it goes sometimes lol

  • @michealtibbetts9999
    @michealtibbetts9999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always awesome to get a fire submission back congrats! Love the content on the channel.

  • @cmill2732
    @cmill2732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great cards, you should get some cheap PSA 10's, crack and resend to different company like Beckett to see if they get the same grade. Keep up the great vids!

  • @MeditateOutside
    @MeditateOutside 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PSA reveals are the best, keep them coming!

  • @lazymillennial3653
    @lazymillennial3653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see a video on how you decide which cards to grade

  • @LS2Heezy
    @LS2Heezy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid!! Interesting to see the grading stuff too. I personally like TAG, beautiful slabs and full report on why card got grade it got.

  • @VuongTran-ut6fz
    @VuongTran-ut6fz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice Vid Packman,
    Would love to see you crack the Zion and regrade with BGS to see what subgrades it would get.

  • @kevinscott1940
    @kevinscott1940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Graded card vids are great!

  • @toualee1430
    @toualee1430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely more.

  • @collierlayne594
    @collierlayne594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely wanna see more I love watching grading videos

  • @DenDonDennis
    @DenDonDennis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Packman, I like seeing these graded card videos. I hope you open more baseball on the channel. Baseball products seem really good and Topps overall does a good job with their products. I hope this year changes your luck on pulling some huge chase cards

  • @AngeloRenardo
    @AngeloRenardo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Packman, I love how informative all of your videos are. Yours was the first channel I began watching when I came back to the hobby. Keep up the great content.

  • @isthatiris
    @isthatiris 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yess love these graded card reveal vids

  • @user-fx3fi6om7d
    @user-fx3fi6om7d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love seeing more baseball cards.

  • @montana01
    @montana01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video, would like to see more. Prefer BGS, but their lack of communication, and decreasing value has forced me to PSA. Would love to see BGS make a strong come back.

  • @andrewbachert2480
    @andrewbachert2480 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see the process of what you do to send them into grading.

  • @vincentaltamura271
    @vincentaltamura271 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would love to see more grading videos.

  • @jasonfarley8940
    @jasonfarley8940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FCG has a QR code that you can see the grade sheets . With explanation. And 10 day turnaround money back gauranteed. Also free subgrades and free auto grade all cards $14 .slabs Looks awesome. Black and gold like BGS Black pristine slabs .

  • @gushie22
    @gushie22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    psa actually being consistent with grading on these cards

  • @cherold2812
    @cherold2812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really like the grading return videos

  • @TrungTran-ie4ng
    @TrungTran-ie4ng 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to see more of the basketball hits you got graded.

  • @glati0s
    @glati0s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the vid; definitely would enjoy some more baseball rips on here!

  • @tylerbatten8381
    @tylerbatten8381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Psa needs to add a black label concept but they give 10s out like candy.

  • @connors_corndogs
    @connors_corndogs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We wanna see more!!!! Love it

  • @brucesammuli1040
    @brucesammuli1040 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SGC is the best grading in my opinion. keep the videos coming and again thanks for what ya do for the hobby..

  • @soldierforChrist1418
    @soldierforChrist1418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's hard to say which one they all have their pros and cons. With PSA you can just go to PSA certification lookup and type in the number that's on the card and it'll tell you the pop. The BGS they have the subgrade so that's cool. The downfall of PSA the holders are thin and the BGS they're thicker. In PSA doesn't tell you why you got the grade you got

  • @beoneofus355
    @beoneofus355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice videos, I just sent some cards off to PSA myself and am waiting to get them back.