The Most Confusing Part of Your Car EXPLAINED

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    Car companies love to say things like “our car has intoxicating form and compelling function” But if you’re an engineer, you know that’s marketing bull-poop. It’s not really saying anything about the car. So, what if they said it’s got “more agile handling with improved steering behavior” because of torque vectoring? Is that more hype, or high-tech engineering? Today, we’re gonna figure out which torque vectoring systems are the real deal, and not just clever marketing. Let’s go!
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  • @homesteadingWithDylan
    @homesteadingWithDylan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5654

    Let's get that b2b episode about differentials!

    • @JR-kq7pv
      @JR-kq7pv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yes Please!! Love the videos and appreciate the knowledge.

    • @Svall23
      @Svall23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yes

    • @fatmarlin4674
      @fatmarlin4674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed, I'd love to feel kinda dumb and then smarter after 10 pages of notes lolz

    • @oldassaccount9034
      @oldassaccount9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yess

    • @flapajawea
      @flapajawea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please!

  • @jaydenray2803
    @jaydenray2803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1621

    "You could let off the accelerator, but what fun is that". The motto of every mustang driver.

  • @trunksbriefs8434
    @trunksbriefs8434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1005

    Jerry: "The common unit of rotational force or torque is pound foot"
    SI units/Nm: "Are we a joke to you?"

    • @speedzapped9065
      @speedzapped9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      we all watched the video

    • @jimmyschock9395
      @jimmyschock9395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He should have said the standard unit 🤣

    • @bungholio1586
      @bungholio1586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes

    • @santiagoardilesgonzalez6451
      @santiagoardilesgonzalez6451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      You americans are the only country still using mideval units

    • @jsn1252
      @jsn1252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@santiagoardilesgonzalez6451 First, if you're going to try to insult people, use proper spelling and don't be wrong. Second, if you'd bother to learn why metric caught on in Europe, i.e to replace a morass of countless competing standards, you'd understand why it wasn't adopted by a continent that already had a single standard of measurements.

  • @alexross4062
    @alexross4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Really wish you guys touched on SH-AWD! The RL in 2005 had a proper mechanical torque vectoring rear diff, and an 'acceleration device' at the rear axle, overdriving the rear wheels by some ~2%-5%. It could do 20/80 or 80/20 split, AND send 100% of the power at the rear axle to one wheel. It's a super sophisticated system, and was/is used in everything from the RL to TL, to even having the torque vectoring diff in the MDX and RDX!

  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained 2 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    I don't get why it's dumb; it's cool!
    Also at 13:30 those are my hands. Those are some nice hands.

    • @cchen4754
      @cchen4754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh hi!

    • @ldmtag
      @ldmtag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The most impressive thing to me was that they got open diff 50:50 torque split right. After their "explanation" for rotational inertia I was sure they would mess it up. But they didn't! Great job, I guess.

    • @marco.9900
      @marco.9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome to see you here!

    • @mattford1054
      @mattford1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He didn’t even get to it being dumb. If anything he pointed out how cool a real torque vectoring system is and promised more videos praising it.

    • @samhentz2574
      @samhentz2574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Explain the engineering behind those nice hands

  • @derekbehrendt6204
    @derekbehrendt6204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    Definitely do a B2B on diffs
    No brainer
    You guys kick ass, keep it up
    What about the suspension? How does that effect the traction loss? Traction is a monster to get right. Part of the fun

    • @minero_colon8837
      @minero_colon8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      totaly agree on everything this guy said

    • @jesnamara6759
      @jesnamara6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @BigfootUnibrowMan
      @BigfootUnibrowMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd love to see a B2B on Stroker engines vs Cylinder Boring

    • @danmanthe9335
      @danmanthe9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Specifically Torsen style diffs.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigfootUnibrowMan yes. Or try also V4 vs Inline 6 Cylinder engine.

  • @brandonpratt5701
    @brandonpratt5701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “Torque vectoring can see into the future, like me on LSD.” I love Jerry 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ronniedavis2552
    @ronniedavis2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry an B2B are my favorite episodes on Donut. I have a comprehension problem so the audible explanations helps me tremendously. Thx again jerry for helping a limited wannabe engineer... You tha Man...

  • @Team_Trash_Dog
    @Team_Trash_Dog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    Thank you for accurately representing this.
    The SAE in general agrees that a system is not "Torque Vectoring" unless it can predictably send torque to one wheel, this is only accomplished through over-speeding. That is why the companies that you pointed out and others will not use the term Torque Vectoring for their brake based systems. They reserve it for systems that are able to send torque to one specific wheel on demand like the Focus RS, the Evo X or the Honda SH-AWD system.

    • @jesnamara6759
      @jesnamara6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm somewhat confused, if one wheel is braked to zero, doesn't that mean all torque is sent to the other wheel?

    • @brutalbasspro
      @brutalbasspro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hate fords but their awd system works really well in the snow and ice but the eco boost motors won’t make it over 100k without major repairs.

    • @killhour
      @killhour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They should totally do a video on the Focus RS system because it's really clever, but it can't actually send 100% of the torque to one specific wheel. Best it can do is a 70/30 split to the rear, with vectoring of that amount side to side.

    • @Omgazombie2k
      @Omgazombie2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@killhour yeah they don’t have a front lsd in early mk3 models either

  • @gabrielpetrina
    @gabrielpetrina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +643

    I would love a b2b on awd diffs especially with differences in how different companies approach it like acura's SH-awd vs audi's quattro.

    • @nicmasterdude
      @nicmasterdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Plus the different VAG systems. There's Torsen, HALDEX and more!

    • @DeborahMelano
      @DeborahMelano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is actually interesting. Would love to have one episode like that

    • @ShogunAutoworks
      @ShogunAutoworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Subaru has like 4 different types alone. Lot of ppl don't know that but yeah

    • @ShogunAutoworks
      @ShogunAutoworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even if you narrow it down to a 2002 Impreza you have 3. The sti one the manual and the auto and they're all completely different

    • @jimmyschock9395
      @jimmyschock9395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nic Beurskens a bunch of cars used torsens they are crazy how they work.

  • @lucasrocha7721
    @lucasrocha7721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like your content, specially when you approach engineering and the specs of racing categories. Please keep up the good work.
    I know that your audience is mainly US based, but I strongly suggest that you place both imperial and metric measurements. Nm is a standard unit and one that makes the whole pound-foot question more obvious for those who are somewhat familiar with kinematics from high schoool.
    If think it is also helpful to establish that an open differential has some advantages besides the cost.
    Again, good job.

  • @Statefarmjake710
    @Statefarmjake710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought my first car with a torsen limited slip, please do the video! I love getting knowledge from you guys, great teachers and easy to understand

  • @xandervasu8789
    @xandervasu8789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    If y'all could explain all the LSD types and transfer case types, that would be really cool please

    • @bimenhani9705
      @bimenhani9705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesss !!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^

    • @crw3673
      @crw3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

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      @jesnamara6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Colt-TV
    @Colt-TV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Would have been a great opportunity to talk about the Evo X MR's TC-SST and "active yaw control"

    • @593432223
      @593432223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i was looking to hear about the evo

    • @NubblyTheSlime
      @NubblyTheSlime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah I was surprised AYC wasn't mentioned! although they did do a whole episode about it...

    • @fahmiperwira
      @fahmiperwira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please donut make it happen!

    • @j0en0b0dy7
      @j0en0b0dy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X was the first car with the "full fat" torque vectoring

    • @barrybritcher
      @barrybritcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      AYC been around for years. Galant VR4

  • @man_on_wheelz
    @man_on_wheelz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to that upcoming episode. I have an AWD Lincoln and apparently it's FWD on a normal basis, and AWD when it needs to be. However, whenever I'm driving it and I need to do something that being AWD outshines FWD in, like hard acceleration from a standstill, or pulling through snow, this car does it seamlessly as if it's been in AWD the whole time! Would love to see what that big transmission looking thing in the back is doing behind those walls.

  • @sajjanbrar2834
    @sajjanbrar2834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have to do an episode on Acura's SH-AWD system. Would be awesome with how detailed your videos are.

  • @bledlbledlbledl
    @bledlbledlbledl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    That open-diff brake-based thing kinda reminds me of the antique tractor I sometimes use for scraping snow off the driveway and mowing fields and stuff. It has 2 brake pedals, one for the left, one for the right, and if it's in a slick spot and having trouble going around a sharp turn, I step on the inside brake and it pulls it right around (although, obviously not automatic)

    • @LM-hw8ci
      @LM-hw8ci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's also how snowblowers work

    • @nickz4993
      @nickz4993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Airplanes have that too

    • @stewpacalypse7104
      @stewpacalypse7104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's not just on antique tractors. I had a 2006 John Deere that I used all around my small farm. When I mowed hay I would uncouple the brake pedals so I could brake on the inside of the turn. This would allow me to make a u-turn at the end of the row around the point of the inside wheel. This set me back on a path parallel to the previous row.
      At other times if one wheel started to spin on soft ground there was a lever I could push with the heal of my left foot to lock the rear diff and it would get traction and pull through.
      Lots of times operating my tractor took both hands and feet to make it all happen.

    • @dcgregorya5434
      @dcgregorya5434 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have unlockable brake pedals on a 2019 tractor.

    • @bayviewbud1539
      @bayviewbud1539 ปีที่แล้ว

      My old 42 ford 9n does the same

  • @jmchich1
    @jmchich1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    I'd love to see a B2B on everyone's favourite forgotten JDM technology: 4 wheel steering!

    • @ol_smokey9370
      @ol_smokey9370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      JDM and early 2000s Chevy trucks. Spoiler alert! It worked better for one than the other.

    • @solvorfoxphorous7580
      @solvorfoxphorous7580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's not uncommon on modern luxury cars, I believe Porsche and a few others are using it.

    • @isaacshiellsthomas992
      @isaacshiellsthomas992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes please, very please, very yes

    • @realganbada
      @realganbada 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, please more

    • @rudyurquizu7952
      @rudyurquizu7952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ol_smokey9370 Z32 comes to mind.

  • @EngineeringPerspective
    @EngineeringPerspective 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rivian's powertrain is essentially the holy grail for torque vectoring. Looking forward to the EV episode!

  • @michaelgaglione6997
    @michaelgaglione6997 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely love these videos they've taught me SOO MUCH about my car or cars in general but I have to admit this is by FARRRRRRRRt the most confusing episode yet ...

    • @09kmacks
      @09kmacks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's a lot of information at once, i'll admit I had to pause it a bunch of times or even replay parts to process before continuing, but in Donut's defense... "the most confusing" is in the title of the video, so it's not supposed to be super easy to understand.

  • @The_journeyy
    @The_journeyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    *The level of detail you guys go into just amazing stuff swear I'm learning so many new things*

  • @Carl5379
    @Carl5379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Make sure to include SH-AWD from Acura when you discuss AWD systems and vectoring.

    • @thegoldentheory4383
      @thegoldentheory4383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even though Hondas “AWD” system is shit? There’s plenty of roller tests that they’ve failed since the AWD just doesn’t work

    • @envyeleven9471
      @envyeleven9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thegoldentheory4383 Honda Real-Time AWD is a different system than Honda's SH-AWD

    • @VorsprungDurchNik
      @VorsprungDurchNik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So many honduh fanbois... "super handling" awd is nothing special. Honda keeps trying to make Acura into something it's not, and they keep failing. You'd think they would have learned a lesson or two from GM by now - you can't polish a turd. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't turn the pig into Marilyn Monroe. Putting brighter headlights and an interior made of different plastics into a Honda doesn't change it into something else. Acura will always be second tier to actual European makes. They just can't shed that basic, cheap Asian feel at their core.

    • @elijahalcala
      @elijahalcala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed, it was even introduced ALL the way back in 2005 on the Acura RL (I owned one for 7 years). It's NOT a brake based torque-vectoring like others that Jerry mentioned!

    • @envyeleven9471
      @envyeleven9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VorsprungDurchNik Did a guy who drives a Honda fuck your girlfriend - or do you have anything to contribute to the conversation that actually speaks to the engineering of the all wheel drive systems?
      Here's something that might help (see the description for a condensed version on how it's a unique system and different from their AWD)
      th-cam.com/video/Yz9ol5zy5nk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Plokus
    @Plokus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    B2B and building miata/e36 are the most consistant shows on ur channel that Always bring a lot of fun!

  • @razorboy68
    @razorboy68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 6:50-ish there you had the tires mixed up. The outside won't spin as it has the grip thanks to the higher load thanks to weight transfer while turning. It's the unloaded inside tire that spins.

  • @mikaelzarfati4827
    @mikaelzarfati4827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    For the next season of Hi Low, can the theme be Muscle cars? Let do a solid to Nolan and his car could be Hi car for a change!

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      @carguy7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea! Make them drag cars

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      @christianmeeks4430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this.

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      @dad1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carguy7884 a budget drag car sounds scary haha

    • @tylerkeen5224
      @tylerkeen5224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dad1366 It is. Hoonigan had someone make a drag car by throwing a turbo ls (well vortec v8) in an s10 with a $10k budget, shit looked terrifying.

    • @ariel_kirkwood
      @ariel_kirkwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Solid lookin out for Nolan, he deserves to be on Hi team this time

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    @JonH- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The production quality of these animations is phenomenal - congrats team!

  • @bojow8102
    @bojow8102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's channels like yours that make me not hate ads. Love your videos.

  • @RaymondReise
    @RaymondReise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the editors of this channel deserve waaaaay more credit, they are top notch!

    • @bhoss7133
      @bhoss7133 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welllll... about that...
      At 2:55 he incorrectly called the axle input shafts, then also referred to the driveshaft as input shaft. But a few seconds later he called the axles output shafts. It caught my attention then within seconds I seen your comment. But yeah still, I agree with you. I love this channel

  • @alienclay2
    @alienclay2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Acura/Honda did electronically controlled electromagnetic clutch packs for active torque vectoring in the SH-AWD system on the 2005 Honda Legend/Acura RL! Standard!

    • @QuakeGamerROTMG
      @QuakeGamerROTMG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      About a decade earlier they had ATTS on the fifth generation Prelude
      Used clutch packs to feed more power to the outside wheel when cornering
      This was 97 that it was first introduced so the Prelude really lived up to its name with this bit of tech

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I'd love to hear about quattro awd vs symmetrical awd. May be even talk about Honda & Acura iVTM4/sh-awd or Toyota TV-AWD. Especially as a Toyota lover would like to see if Toyota torque vectoring awd can be of any use or its just marketing bs?

    • @jesnamara6759
      @jesnamara6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @barryallencoffee
      @barryallencoffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyota TV is def something I would watch

  • @spiritsofthedistilledkind3633
    @spiritsofthedistilledkind3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative! Looking forward to the next
    Video. Hear Subaru has a complex system. Would be cool to hear a comparison between the different types.

  • @Where_is_Waldo
    @Where_is_Waldo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have actually been looking forward to this video and the center differential video you mentioned since I was a kid playing Gran Turismo 2. I Always toyed with the adjustable settings on those center differentials and two-way limited slip LSDs but I didn't realize there were different ways of building a locking differential. I never appreciated the Active Stability Management as they called it (the brake based system). If I remember right this system was even supposed to apply breaks to wheels that weren't even driven to stabilize the car during excessive YAW. To me it just made the cars' handling feel more like an arcade game and I prefer to just rely on the adjustable limited slip differentials, it allows me to control how the steering feels.

  • @moonraker09
    @moonraker09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I am a little confuse about the joke Jeremiah makes about torque @7:00. Isn't it the inside wheel that gets all the torque wasted because it broke traction? It should be the inside wheel saying: "it's my torque ablalblalabllalba" while wasting it.

    • @HarshdeepMusic
      @HarshdeepMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes you are right 😅

    • @ag135i
      @ag135i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even I thought that for a second.

    • @nicolascava7646
      @nicolascava7646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had to watch that part a few times before I realized it was a mistake, I thought I was so dumb for a second trying to figure it out lol

    • @ricrodrigh1
      @ricrodrigh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Got very confused there for a second, had to watch it a couple times as well

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  • @andrewficalora5631
    @andrewficalora5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would absolutely appreciate a deep-dive video on differentials. The mechanics behind them, the different types, final drive ratios, etc.

  • @d1gee3
    @d1gee3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show man. Always informative 👍

  • @samuraiska320
    @samuraiska320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn something new every week watching Donut.
    Thanks for the Knowledge.

  • @jHftw
    @jHftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the honda ATTS system in the prelude, it makes the car turn in so much better than without it, really interesting piece of equipment too

  • @nothing2seehere.goaway
    @nothing2seehere.goaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Watching this reminded me of my 1st Gen Acura RDX. The SH-AWD system made that little CUV handle in ways it didn't had a right to for its category. Absolutely loved it once I realized that to get the most of it, using the throttle through the turn was key. I still miss it. They changed their character once SH-AWD was no longer offered.

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    • @Kana0211
      @Kana0211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's the turbo. Mine has a sticking wastegate

    • @magick7637
      @magick7637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have 3rd gen, baby handles like a dream for what it is

    • @nothing2seehere.goaway
      @nothing2seehere.goaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kana0211 mine was fantastic for the 3 years that I had it. Had to sell it because I moved to a different state but the guy who bought it never reported any mechanical issues.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magick7637 Yes. Also handles like a spring recoil.

  • @HapaHeritage
    @HapaHeritage ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned from this vid. Really well explained and the consideration of body roll was a nice touch👌

  • @PErdesz
    @PErdesz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best series no cap. You get to learn free about shit you love. Aaand the production is top notch with some dad humor that may be old, unfilunny or even just youtube catering, but at least this channel has soul. Thanks for all the great wotk from Donut. We truly love you.

  • @Randy_Pancakes
    @Randy_Pancakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to watch a B2B video about differentials. Between LSD, torsen, lunch boxes, spools, there's so many. I'd watch a long video about it. Love you guys. Keep up the great work!

  • @justinh7099
    @justinh7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite torque vectoring experience so far was the Evo 8. Makes driving quickly so easy and with a lot of control.

  • @isaacholeman
    @isaacholeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love an episode about how electric vehicles do torque vectoring, especially for off-road oriented trucks. How does torque vectoring work in EVs with 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 motors?

    • @JoeyLindsay
      @JoeyLindsay ปีที่แล้ว

      In a four motor EV I’d imagine the “diff” would be mainly software controlled I’d imagine

  • @katanavx0331
    @katanavx0331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LEEEEET'S GOOOOOO with the differential videos! Keep up the great work, Jeremiah!

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      @katanavx0331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Mr.Magpie
    @Mr.Magpie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I could really use to see how the acura shawd system works, like in the 09 rl with the accleration device

  • @cinthe3
    @cinthe3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Been here watching the rise! Stay humble guys. Love you all and thanks for the content

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  • @HeliSal700
    @HeliSal700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Love it.
    Please make a video about LSD, locking Diffs, etc.
    Then a test run with lap times with the different systems. That would be awesome

  • @MohamedIbrahim-od7do
    @MohamedIbrahim-od7do ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how smart this is! I will just believe in the magic of engineering until I can study this enough in detail

  • @buddy1155
    @buddy1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    4:12 The common unit of torque isn't LB-FT .... it is NM (newton meter)

    • @QuakeGamerROTMG
      @QuakeGamerROTMG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans: *complain about lb-ft*
      "Wouldn't have this issue if you would move out of the 19th century and start using real units like everybody else"

    • @rosiepone
      @rosiepone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it just depends on where you live, this youtube channel is in the US so they're gonna discuss US cars and US units mainly, they may be "wrong" in the global scope but if you're an american and somebody tells you something in newton-meters they'll ask you why you're talking about fruit bars instead of car parts

    • @buddy1155
      @buddy1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosiepone The US was the first country that started with implementing the part of the metric system in 1792 with decimal currency, _the dollar cent,_ although the quarter still exists.
      That was even before France, first country, implemented the metric system in 1795.

  • @JMB676
    @JMB676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for explaining, I understand a lot about cars from like 2004 back but fell out of the loop but this definitely open my mind up to stuff kinda already knew but did know it was this. 🤯

  • @BB-os5gn
    @BB-os5gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    had to pause and think a few times this episode, always learning I love it thanks donut!

  • @Hewitt-tech
    @Hewitt-tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lexus TVD in the RC-F is a bit more than where you left it with just electronic control of the clutch packs. What really makes the Lexus version different is that the clutch packs engage a planetary gear set that OVERDRIVES the outside wheel by 1.5 to 3 percent more than the differential output. You can actually feel the yaw moment when it is helping to drive the rear outside wheel faster to push it around the corner. Fun fact, it is also 80lbs heavier than just their standard Torsen rear diff.

  • @negil
    @negil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd enjoy an episode on torque systems in front wheel drive cars, like the ATTS model Honda used in the Prelude Type SH

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I would definitely love an episode on electric cars and how they deal with torque on the street and off road because off road =]

  • @VarandasMD
    @VarandasMD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    VW released in 2013 on the Golf mk7 GTI Performance Pack the VAQ differential, that works with XDS. Basically that's the FWD version of what Lexus introduced later on the RCF. The VAQ has clutches to send more torque to the wheel with more grip and XDS is a brake based torque vectoring system, already available since 2009.

  • @torrbrown3793
    @torrbrown3793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWD toque vectoring would be cool and more details on the position of the LSD clutch pack and its mounting to the cage and also how manufacturers disengage the spider gears

  • @guyfawkes7999
    @guyfawkes7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a great video. I never understood the purpose of Diffs that much, but this totally made sense. Can you explain the BMWs' X Drive system along with the Audi Quattro?
    I recently replaced the Transfer Case on my X5 and no one at the dealership could properly explain the functionality of it. I thought it was the rear diff but they said no.

  • @magnumcipher4971
    @magnumcipher4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The TON-MILE has always been my favorite unit of measure, commonly used to quantify mechanical wear of large wire-ropes used in very heavy lifting gear like that used in a drilling rig’s draw-works.

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    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it's not an enormous unit of torque and is instead a measure of wear based on how much weight has been applied over a length of wire-rope?

    • @magnumcipher4971
      @magnumcipher4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skaldlouiscyphre2453 I believe the metric first found use in the locomotive/freight/rail industry. Something to the tune of the weight in short tons divided by the distance travelled in miles equals ton/miles. I suppose it could be used many different application of scale, but wouldn’t an engine large enough to have it’s power output measured in ton-miles be awesome!? 🤘🏼

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@magnumcipher4971
      I appreciate the explanation, the older I get the harder it becomes to still learn something new every day.

  • @jafu745
    @jafu745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were just discussing with a friend how the new EV rally cars etc will handle the twisties with full torque from 1 rpm. So yea, looking forward to EV torque vectoring video and maybe a comparison from RWD/AWD/EV. Keep it up!

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to know why it matters what torque they make at 1 RPM lol

  • @whatsuplouisvile
    @whatsuplouisvile 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this explanation! I retained none of the information provided and will act like a certified mechanical engineer in every situation possible

  • @jeffrykopis5468
    @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Yeah, I'd love to see a B2B on "posi" differentials, including the old school Detroit Locker, vs a TrueTrac, an Auburn, and the GM eLocker. Then there are the ARB Air Locker, the now defunct Gleason Torsen, and cheaper "lunchbox lockers" like the LocRite.

    • @bluewffl8472
      @bluewffl8472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True Trac/wavetrack/powertrax or ARB for the win....trust me....I ship thousands of diff parts every day. True Trac can torque bias through its helical(or any helical of that design type) internal gears, also they don't require additive or clutch replacement over time(so they make up the difference from cheaper clutch style options) ARB is nice, but comes with all the caveats of installing an air system. Or you can get a motive wavetrack(helical like the eaton...pricey, but LIFETIME WARRANTY)....or I'd also recommend Richmond Powertrax pro series helicals....middle of road on cost...no additive or clutches to deal with still. Run from Auburn. Just back away from it slowly and turn and run. Interesting idea, but not rebuildable and uses special "conical" clutches....that you can't replace. Detroit lockers are pretty decent(but those are a locker....not a limited slip) but are pretty aggressive usually with dragging the outside wheel...not quite like a spool...but not pleasant on the street.

    • @bluewffl8472
      @bluewffl8472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spartans and lunchbox lockers go inside your factory open diff case after you pull spiders(most times, a few different ones use a cpl of the factory spider gears along with the new parts. E lockers work OK, but are not suited for serious wheeling/hp in most situations as they rely on magnetic actuated "pins" most times to engage on part of elocker....so not super robust...but will lock. GM oe limited slips are known as "gov bombs"....there's a reason

    • @bluewffl8472
      @bluewffl8472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Torsen diffs work like any other helical for most part....just slightly different designs

    • @jeffrykopis5468
      @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluewffl8472 Yeah, the Auburn is just like the GM Positraction, Ford TracLoc, or 70-up Mopar SureGrip. Not rebuildable. The older SureGrips could be reclutched. The original Detroit is harsh. The TrueTrac would be my choice, if funds allow. I'd settle for a LocRite, but as a Mopar guy, I know ya can't get em for the 8.75.

  • @fatmarlin4674
    @fatmarlin4674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think this is my favorite series on the channel. Science for the win!

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    • @florinmatusea
      @florinmatusea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's my second favourite series after Wheel House 🙏

  • @zacblakely3285
    @zacblakely3285 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that full B2B diff episode! This was awesome!

  • @vbence12
    @vbence12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would definitely like to see a video on the diff/torque vectoring in the new Audi RS3. Similar concept to the Lexus in this video but a different take and I find it really fascinating.

  • @aspecreviews
    @aspecreviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Acura had torque vectoring well before Lexus. In 2004, the '05 Acura RL introduced torque-vectoring all-wheel drive.
    As far as the Lexus system, nearly every Lexus since 2006 (and even many Toyotas) have vehicle-dynamics integrated management, which is essentially brake vectoring on steroids, capable of making millisecond-by-millisecond braking, throttle, and even power steering adjustments to prevent under or oversteer, often before it is even noticed by the driver.

    • @jamesgasper8630
      @jamesgasper8630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont forget about the rear diff in a Nissan juke, its got lotsa clutches just like the sh system honda made. I personally drive an 09 rdx which is a very under rated car.

    • @christoforospaphitis4090
      @christoforospaphitis4090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesgasper8630 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution from the 90's dude

    • @aspecreviews
      @aspecreviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christoforospaphitis4090 the Evo had clutches in the rear axle, but it couldn't overdrive the rear axle like SH-AWD. Only the Evo 10th-generation had true torque vectoring.

  • @MrPundurs
    @MrPundurs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Jeremiah is hilarious and amazing!
    I could be watching anything narrated by him :D
    Keep it going, man! 😎

    • @MrPundurs
      @MrPundurs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaand, bonus points to EDITOR, for letting us see those brilliant moments :)

  • @jason9875
    @jason9875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and entertaining! Awesome presentation

  • @Psy8ern3t1k
    @Psy8ern3t1k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES. Please explain the difference between different LDS's; e.g. open, 1 way, 1.5 way, 2 way, etc.

  • @Auribe906
    @Auribe906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My TLX Type S’s SH-AWD is by far the best AWD I’ve ever driven. I’d love to see a comparison to Audis’s Quattro AWD system. That’d be an interesting to see since I couldn’t find any other channel that had them both, or any systems amongst manufactures for that matter.

  • @panavmendiratta6723
    @panavmendiratta6723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jerry: *Casually sings 'It's my life' by Bon Jovi in the most Jerry way possible*
    Ps:- we need a B2B on LSDs

    • @ForzaMonkey
      @ForzaMonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Panav Mendiratta We need a B2B or an Up To Spped on Bon Jovi now.

  • @upsidedown4155
    @upsidedown4155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i find stange with american and uk, i learnt the shaft going from the gearbox to the diff is a prop shaft (propeller shaft) and the shafts connecting the diff to the wheel hubs are driveshafts

  • @kichigaisensei
    @kichigaisensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Only thing is, I'm not so sure how much maintenence a LSD needs. I own a 30 year old Fox Mustang with 130k miles. A lot of those have been pretty hard miles. I have changed the dif fluid to synthetic around 50k miles, but that's it. The LSD still works awesome. Lays two long patches anywhere of any length at any time.

  • @dezjaughnwilson4063
    @dezjaughnwilson4063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m surprised Acura’s SH-AWD wasn’t mentioned. Guess it’s an even more complex system

    • @jonathanaminiel1823
      @jonathanaminiel1823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was solely based on rear wheel drive

    • @dezjaughnwilson4063
      @dezjaughnwilson4063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanaminiel1823 that’s a good point, probably why they went to Lexus to explain it instead of Acura

  • @theformula123
    @theformula123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why not just use Newton metres for torque to make it less confusing?

    • @thomaseaton6142
      @thomaseaton6142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely because the target audience is American

    • @theformula123
      @theformula123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thomaseaton6142 yeah well Americans sometimes use nm as well and if the rest of the world uses it, then why make it more confusing?

    • @thomaseaton6142
      @thomaseaton6142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TheSlayer97 Genuinely, I have never seen or heard any Americans use Newton meters outside of science classes in high school and college, if it bothers you that badly for all the hypothetical numbers in the video, just replace him saying lb-ft with Newton meters

    • @theformula123
      @theformula123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomaseaton6142 it doesn't bother, it's just that they always say how they get confused about it

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomaseaton6142 I mean, this is basically a science lesson so is it not apropos

  • @franlafosse
    @franlafosse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every possible episode you proposed in this video, I want it. Every single one of them.

  • @damncritics
    @damncritics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, usually your technical stuff isn't great but this was very good! Well done

  • @dariolinder4508
    @dariolinder4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    4:12 the common unit of torque is not the pound-foot, it's the newton meter.
    Even the pound-foot itself is based on the metric system nowadays, just like the rest of the imperial system.
    So calling it the common measurement like the USA aren't the only ones using it, is just wrong.

    • @Kana0211
      @Kana0211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's common in the US so someone from the US will say it's common

    • @dariolinder4508
      @dariolinder4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kana0211 just because the US is using it doesn't mean it's common. It's specific to the US. It's like americans going to other countries and yelling at them to speak english.

    • @chrisc2920
      @chrisc2920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dariolinder4508 Donut’s based in LA. Primary audience is also American. “Common” units are going to be the customary/imperial/American/whatever you want to call them units. Not everything is abt the rest of the world

    • @ldmtag
      @ldmtag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Common is not the same as most common

    • @Tojoblindeye
      @Tojoblindeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Calm down dingle jingle.

  • @vthomebrewer
    @vthomebrewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd love to see more on the electric IWD (Independent Wheel Drive) that uses 4 motors. Please and thanks!

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  • @dichotomousblue
    @dichotomousblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look at the acura sh-awd system with overdriven real wheels to actually push the outside rear faster than the inside, trust vectoring. It's noticeable in my 2012 TL

  • @jex_au1102
    @jex_au1102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work, as usual. Yes, please do a video on how EVs do torque vectoring.

  • @christopherwick2407
    @christopherwick2407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to hear about torque vectoring with electric cars. Thanks for the offer.

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  • @morkovija
    @morkovija 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    PSA: Omaze are a bunch of greedy folks who pocket 80-90% of donations.

    • @catinthehat5140
      @catinthehat5140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Proof?

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      @morkovija 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @KaitouKaiju 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @nlennon24
    @nlennon24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Common Jerry let's get this done like yesterday! Love yas' keep up the great work!

  • @colehartel7206
    @colehartel7206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always loved the feeling of putting power on with a Torsen diff. No computer putting brakes on is going to give a better feel than that!

  • @xxboywizardxx9573
    @xxboywizardxx9573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Love the videos as always. Especially these. I always learn something new.

    • @michele_
      @michele_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .

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  • @rolandwilliams1228
    @rolandwilliams1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Surprised he didn't talk about one of the best true torque vectoring systems. 2005-2012 Acura RL with SH-AWD no braking involved

  • @coreymegran6332
    @coreymegran6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tool Party was amazing. More of it please!!!

  • @GabrielMartinez-qn9tw
    @GabrielMartinez-qn9tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Torque equals the cross product of the distance vector and force vector.
    In cross-products, unlike dot-products, the order matters.
    The unit should be FtLb, not the other way around.
    Dot product:
    A • B = B • A
    Cross product:
    A x B ≠ B x A
    Although the SI unit for torque is Newton-meters (Nm), it should be meters-Newton (mN).

  • @andrigtmiller
    @andrigtmiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would definitely like to see a video on electric cars and torque vectoring.

  • @joshuawalker301
    @joshuawalker301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That Sturgis shirts said everything I need to know about this man, he is the best 🤠 and jobbe too! 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @jonanderson4474
      @jonanderson4474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Team Nolan here. They are all great at their position though. Boss team for sure.

    • @brianx04
      @brianx04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This California boy knows how to score fans across the country! It's great to watch.

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      @jesnamara6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @andrewfox2647
    @andrewfox2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    B2B on differentials please? Also love that your reppin sturgis! Hell yeah!

  • @MrEmanuelFerreira
    @MrEmanuelFerreira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just about to wright "do an episode on audi quattro" And you said, "next episode audi quattro"!
    Can not wait to see it m8.
    keep on feeding me this episodes!! :D

  • @augustsawzak5401
    @augustsawzak5401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Donut Media: Here is how the active aero works on the new Koenigsegg Jesko!
    Jeremy: Ok, first let's explain why wheels are round

  • @raghavanpradeep2434
    @raghavanpradeep2434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Jer Ber, just wanted to say, I love your videos. Please do some more videos on the GR Supra if you can

  • @damourssteeven
    @damourssteeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mitsubishi as a active yaw control in the s-awc system. Got it in my evo and is based on hydrolique system on the diff and t-case

  • @juangil5625
    @juangil5625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to see more as well. I own a Lexus GSF and it’s a a 4 door that drives like a 2 door. The TVD is pretty awesome it makes the car so nimble. I have I take and full exhaust on it and the sound of the v8 is awesome as well.

    • @aspecreviews
      @aspecreviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The torque vectoring differential isn't the only reason why the GSF handles so well, it has a system called VDIM which can literally make millisecond by millisecond brake, throttle, and even power steering adjustments to make the car handle better.

  • @Katsinum
    @Katsinum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn't this like the third title by now?

  • @bruhnt5063
    @bruhnt5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Day 277 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

    • @Dudeman9339
      @Dudeman9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ohhh buzz off. things change. deal.

  • @logan_e
    @logan_e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New sub from me, your technical knowledge is excellent and explanations clear! The juvenile jokes are boring, but I'll tolerate them for your highly interesting content, 😁👍 good job bro!

  • @patrick9316
    @patrick9316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great.
    Looking forward to the next episodes. Keep them coming!!!!!!!!!