@@the14thcreed lol.. yep. Exactly my experience with the 2022. I put the down payment in February and just finally got it at the end of July. Sat in a crate at the dealer the whole time. My dealer also said “they won’t be making any improvements to the rxpx for at least a couple years”…
With a name like that I was hoping for a more performance oriented package versus a more visual/cosmetics package. Definitely interested to see Kevin's thoughts on steering damper. And if the damper can be retrofitted too older skis ifs it's a real world improvement.
I feel like were going back in time to the 2011 era when I purchased my first used pwc. Sea doo was driving the market prices higher and higher with more bells and whistles that are neat, but not really useful to the consumer. (Flashback to 2012) "Wow a sea doo with electronic suspension to smooth out the ride!! That's cool, but I really don't need that at $16k. I'm barely good with the 10-12K for a new lower end supercharged ski." Jet skis got so expensive then the sales fell on their face. "If I'm going to spend $20k on a ski, I could buy a good used boat for that much." Then sales started going to the Spark and Yamaha Ex era. Just give me a motor, handlebars, and a seat. People wanted to enjoy the water not take a second mortgage on their house to buy 2 jet skis and a trailer.
I've got an 07 Honda Aquatrax F12x with 450 hours and an 09 F15x with 200 hours. Reliable, quick enough and still going stronger than most current overpriced crap.
Well that’s absolutely sick! I’m sure it will be 18msrp and then when you find one at dealership. Suddenly it’s not 18k. It’s actually $25k plus another 3-4K in fees. And 3-5yrs of paying on it. It’s now you’re 35-40k paid off ski. Lol that’s worth 10k.
In 93 my first XP was 5800.00 trailer was 350.00. That was a long time ago. No bells no whistles and no sponsons. That was fun! Then the got smart and had the dealer add them because the just about would turn
The new seadoos are so fresh this year that this model release was done in the middle of the night several weeks earlier than usual. Interesting steering idea but doubt most people need it. it's the color matching handles that will flood the orders coming in!
The reveal was last night with a 9pm EST embargo date. The media got the information only shortly before that, giving us VERY little time to prepare - hence the midnight publishing.
@@watercraftjournal Watercraft Journal did amazing with such a short turnaround. My point was Sea-Doo released this info on 9pm on a Sunday. Not exactly a great timeframe to drum up sales.
What is with this comment section getting its nipples in a twist over this? Are people really that oblivious to R&D that they don't recognize a consumer test bed when they see one? This clearly exists purely to get consumer feedback on the steering damper, if people like it/ it actually works to stop bow hunting in heavy chop then it will almost certainly become an option on the standard RXP and likely the ST3 hull as well. Manufacturers always prefer to roll out new tech on a small proportion of their product line by sales where possible, it's why Honda put the first ever dual clutch automatic hybrid transmission (a dual clutch with a torque converter between the clutches and the flywheel) in the Acura ILX back in 2016 instead of putting it in the Accord, and it's why sea doo made a special edition here. And the people complaining that sea doo has barely changed its lineup since '22 need to realize that BRPs primary objective in '23 is and could only have been to get their supply chain issues ironed out so that people's expensive toys don't end up sitting at the dealer waiting on parts for months of prime season. A heavy redesign would have been anathema to that end and would have consumed the engineering resources being used to resolve that issue.
Wow, I like the looks of the Apex, carbon fiber really adds to the total package. I think it was smart to include the cover and passenger seat as I think most would buy them anyway. You can go out solo, or take the kids or who ever if its a group ride, gives you the best of both worlds. But with things the way they are in the world today, and many 2022 still sitting in crates waiting for parts... could be a long wait
...and that's why the vast majority of '23 models are direct carryovers from '22. They're blending the two years together so they can fulfill existing orders.
Color-matched hand grips? Black on black on dark grey with a dab of dark green? Be still my beating heart! Sea Doo offers any color you like - as long as it's black.
Still surprised millennium yellow 3 years in a row. Was hoping for 1 year run of triple black too to keep it more rare. Same with neo mint on wake pro. Since I own both of them lol. I want an rxpx too but was hoping for totally different colors.
You're surprised? SERIOUSLY? They're STILL trying to complete 2022 models sitting on dealer's floors. It's only logical to carry them over unchanged for 2023 so production can be fulfilled.
@@watercraftjournal yes seriously. How often have they run same color 3 years in a row? It's obvious that it's basically 22 carry over but they must have plenty of extra yellow and charcoal gray acrylic leftover. 2024 is obviously going to be new colors a across the lineup
So the same thing but instead of a clean black/gray/red its a puke green with a complicated steering system and carbon fiber ( aka spend all your money because we added this)
@@watercraftjournal im just kidding. I have a 2022 rxpx 300 i got in july and I absolutely love it and now i have to talk bad about anything new 😂😂😂💀😭 im a greenbay packers fan i love green
So all they did was change some parts to carbon fiber, gave it power steering, and changed the colors, included some Linq accessories, and made it more expensive than the gtx limited? What the hell
It’s a steering dampner not power steering. Motorcycles have been using them for years. I didn’t know pwcs can get tank slop from bump steer, lol. Most pwcs eventually get a dampner but it’s not adjustable. It’s just a corroded cable or seized bushings. Lol. I’m actually surprised they haven’t came out with some type of fly by wire steering yet.
$600 base price increase plus $615 commodity surcharge on the GTX 300 limited. Color choices of Saige Green or Blue Abyss. I can live with the Saige Green but the Blue Abyss is a weird shade of blue. I don't know who picks these colors they should have kept the Liquid Titanium Black as a choice.
Tim Ducat, you're famous. Must admit it looks cool with great features but does the color coordinated hand grips make it handle any better in the chop or win an offshore Pro Aqua X race? I am scared to even ask the price.. I'm more excited about the hydro foil.
Seems like this year’s refresh of the lineup is an exercise in saving major handling/power/ergonomic improvements and a total redesign for later, and giving people just enough to be somewhat interested in paying the current market premiums for the newest machine out there. I feel like Sea-Doo could’ve done more here.
What it's about really is supply chain. BRPs objective is to ensure availability and delivery in 2023. A deep redesign would only exacerbate the delivery issues that are plaguing the industry.
@@flacjacket That can definitely factor into it, especially with the proposed total Spark redesign. I guess I sort of compare it to what Yamaha did with the rework of the GP. They kept it looking relatively the same, but changed a bunch of details to dynamically improve the riding experience. It seems like Sea-Doo is doing the opposite. Not changing much of the dynamic experience and only changing appearance. The ski will sell though, no question… It’s limited, exclusive, and probably expensive. People will lap it up.
The hydrolic steering demper sounds great. I used to put a flexx handlebar on my dirtbike (demping by rubber) could you use those dirtbike handlebars for watercrafts aswell?
And for $21K! Carbon fiber sticker? There should be a Alpha! Real carbon fiber hood, no mirrors, no rear seat, no stereo, Real carbon fiber seat, cold air intake, tuned on E85, live EGTS, BIG RPM DIGITAL BRIGHT TACH, Tunned Exhaust, Scramble Boost button, Carbon Fiber cetch can, and a Carbon Fiber helmet. 90MPH of pure love!!
Exactly. Unfortunately coast gaurd speed regulations are real for the factory. But at least you can get almost that with Rivas SE skis. I feel the skis like the rxx are done bc they are already hitting the speeds. Sometimes they have to slow them down. A carbon fiber rear tail section of the seat would look awesome though. Just like they did in the old days. Or even the cover that you stuck the number on that they did years back when the 1st edition rxpx’s came out? Maybe it was available for all rxps can’t remember,
It’s funny I go to customize a seadoo like a GTI 170 and the starting price includes the brp audio but select that I don’t want any bundles the brp audio gets taken off and the price goes down. Strange. Must be a method behind it all.
I have the Seadoo GTR and Yamaha FX SVHO, the Seadoo accelerates quicker but has a lower top speed. The GTR is for racing and getting around a course quicker is it's focus. The FX is a cruiser, is very quick yet quick isn't its focus. In comparison the GTR will literally shoot out from your grip and from under you if you're not consciously prepared for it when accelerating from a stop or low speeds. I like FX for that reason I use it for tow sports vs. the GTR because its' just easier, many that ride both say this. However if you want to get out and just have a fun turning and popping over waves, etc the GTR is your ride, just about anyone will get carried away with the playing on the GTR. However if fast cruising is the activity, the FX shows up as the PWC of choice. The GTR does have eco-mode which works if you're wanting to get a lot of distance, it reduces acceleration and top speed is 52, which honestly is plenty especially if the water is rough. Both are a lot of fun for different reasons, I like having both options on my pier. Ginger or MaryAnn of PWC's. My FX is older, I do think we'll replace it with another one, originally we were gonna buy two Sea-Doo's however a GTR (not our first choice) and a slightly used FX SVHO were what we could get.
@@watercraftjournal The competition would be nice. That Kawi rips though, top notch review, but I know I'm not wrong about the static steering damper, those are prehistoric.
If there is no performance improvement, I'm not paying extra for it to look prettier. I'll just buy the standard RXP and upgrade it myself. Save my money 💰
Nice machine but the color and the fact the hull is unstable in rough water at speed so needs a steering damper really isn't a feature but at least Seadoo is trying.
Hey buddy I know this is completely off topic to the video and I apologize for that but how often should you start a pwc if you know it’s going to be sitting I’ve been busy for the past couple weeks and haven’t gotten to ride and my mechanic told me I should crank it up and let it run for about 15 seconds just to get new gas in the system I wanted to know your opinion on this
@@watercraftjournal how often should you start up your pwc if you know it will be sitting? My mechanic told me that you should start it every 2 or 3 weeks if you haven’t taken it out. I was just wondering what your opinion on the matter was. Sorry
@@watercraftjournal he's asking how often should he start the ski if it's been sitting. Pretty simple read no need to be a jerk to subscribers . We are the reason you even have a business!..
Yeah he’s right! Start the engine maybe once a week and let it idle for 20/30 secs Then maybe once every couple months start the engine and run fresh water through it for 5-10 mins It’s good practice to also have it plugged into a trickle charger, but switch it off for a week or so every few months or it’ll dry the battery cells out prematurely.
The coolest feature is the key from this will fit my 2022 SkiDoo snowmobile. Why is that you ask? Well because i dont have a secure DESS post because of the chip shortage. I have no idea when i will have one but im glad BRP is producing new units while 2022 models are still incomplete.
Lol, what is this critique? Did you know that sea doo has implemented 15,000 engineering changes across their lineup in order to streamline production to address the issue you are complaining about? The reason the 'new' lineup is almost identical to the '22 with the only new tech being the steering damper that this limited model exists to trial is because sea doos primary objective is to get the delivery times back under control. It's hardly like you can blame BRP for the dipshits in government grenading the global economy.
@@watercraftjournal lol…when you are 100 miles from home on a snowmobile in the middle of nowhere and anyone with a BRP key can hop on your sled and drive away its not very pleasing . My point being , how can they take orders on future models when there are incomplete prior models?
You people don't seem to want a jet ski. You want an iPhone that floats...... I'm sick of these skis being priced higher and higher every year because a few clowns said they wanted more features. Do you want to ride and have fun or do you want a freaking smart phone that floats??? Get rid of all the bullshit and just make a fast and affordable ski. Nobody needs or wants half that electronic sht anyways.
I only heard that the Steering Column was reinforced with Carbon Fiber which leads me to believe that much of the Steering Column is still primarily a Plastic? or a Composition of Plastics and Carbon Fiber? What about the Carbon Fiber Hood and Mirror sections? Are these actually made of Carbon Fiber? or of a Faux Carbon Fiber for Visual Appeal only? I personally purchased a used 2015 GTX iS 260 Limited more than 2 years ago and I personally have accumulated well over 100 Hours on my Ski, I've had to make numerous repairs to my Ski during ownership, but nothing has ever gone wrong with the intelligent Suspension (iS), a Technology that Sea Doo chose to drop after the 2016 Model Year? Some say that Sea Doo dropped the Suspension Ski's because they were dificult to work on? I'm a Retired Professional Wrench (1974-2018 mostly on European Cars, Audi's primarily) and I have found my Suspension Ski much easier to work on than Audi's and other European Vehicles. I'm currently 66 Years of age, I pilot my Ski like I Stole it in the smooth to extremely Choppy Bay waters of Galveston Texas and in the Gulf of Mexico. If it weren't for my Ski having Suspension I wouldn't have put half the Hours on it as I have. Suspension Ski's are/were a Game Changer. Randy AKA randog311
@@watercraftjournal Doesn't seem to be much more work than Engine access on a Spark? I've never had to completely remove the upper deck. Only repairs I can foresee requiring removal of the upper deck would be to remove the Engine and possibly to replace the Engine Mounts (I believe that I could possibly replace the Engine Mounts with the rear Suspension Hinge raised, Dog House, Supercharger, Intake Manifold, Exhaust Water Box and the Drive Shaft removed)? Regardless, at most add an aditional Hour to raise the rear Suspension and remove the Dog House which I've done several times. Sounds to me to be more of a case of the Mechanics (as a Pro Wrench myself, I never liked being referred to as a Technician) "not wanting too" rather than the actual Man Hours added to the time spent. Randy AKA randog311
@@watercraftjournal Hello Kevin, if indeed it was necessary to completely remove the upper deck, a ceiling mounted winch would be one option, a far less expensive option would be to use a common automotive type "Cherry Picker" engine hoist/crane. My 2015 Ski currently has 174 Hours on it, I've never had to completely remove the upper deck. To perform most invasive Servicing or Maintenance, begin by first overriding the iS and raising it to the maximum height, then removing the swim platform along with Port side storage bin followed by removing the pair of trim pieces between the Stern storage bins the eight 8mm x 1.25 bolts are accessible. Mark the location of the slotted aluminum rear hinge mount, once these 8 Bolts are removed the back of the upper deck swings up under spring tension, then tie the hinge up out of the way using the Tow Eye and the Grab Rail. Now the Dog House can be unbolted and removed giving more than adequate access to perform most Maintenance or repairs such as repair or servicing the Supercharger, Intercooler, Carbon Seal, installation of an aftermarket Bilge Pump and much more (adds about an extra Hour Extra to the job of servicing the Supercharger over that of a non-suspension Ski). FYI: On more than one occasion I've R&I'ed the *Throttle Body* through the access panel under the seat. Iv'e also had the* Fuel Pump Module* in and out of the Tank numeus times by lifting out the front watertight Storage Bin and removing the 4 Bolts securing the forward Hull Vent and Hoses to gain limited access (have to work mostly Blind and by feel). Footnote: *I wouldn't recommend these limited access method's be attempted by a Novice. Randy AKA randog311
All I heard was nothin but some corporate bullshit, as a die hard sea doo fan I don’t see the upsides of the apex over a standard model with a few after market upgrades, especially when you can’t just order one right up…
@@kenshinhimura9387 no average person can afford a jet ski ever, even a base spark will set you back about $12k by the time you have bought a trailer and paid taxes then it's going to consume a lot of fuel and have maintenance costs. It's the nature of boats in general, they have always been for the upper middle and upper class. Complaining about BRP making toys for rich people is like complaining about Piper making airplanes for rich people.
@@flacjacket A jet ski is by nature one of the most frivolous and unnecessary purchases ever. But that's how it is with toys. I can never understand the people that feel the need to pipe up with "Average people can't afford this" any time someone talks about an expensive item with limited utility. We are fortunate to live in a society where enough people are able to generate the income that justifies the creation and sale of such things.
@@flacjacket when I was a kid everyone could afford these things. Same as everyone could afford sport quads and crotch rockets. When I was in high school a lot of my friends had brand new bikes or quads because they only cost $10k. Even s kid with a part time job could afford these toys. Fast forward to today and they don't even make sport quads now because these idiot companies priced themselves out of the market. Now ask we have are side by side for rich guys and super expensive jet skis that nobody can afford.
I spent $17,000 in my RXT-X. I'm not poor, but im not rich either as i could not bring myself to put out $80,000 for a wake boat. The fact that you place a 20,000 dollar PWC in a class of "only rich can afford" is laughable and pathetic. 🤣
It’s not hydraulic steering. It’s just a hydraulic steering dampner. Motorcycles have been using them for years for bump steer so you don’t get tank slap. I didn’t realize you could get bump steer on a pwc.
So many buzz words theyre going to give apple a run for its money. I guess in a few more years all this stuff will matter as much as they really are trying to portray .. Until then more colors for us " woo"
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THE 2023 CARBON SEAL HAS BEEN REPAIRED SO THEY DONT BECOME SUBMARINES!! IF NOT DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THEM! I WANTED 1 BUT BECAUSE OF THAT I WENT WITH YAMAHA, 22 FX IS NICEE
@@watercraftjournal well, what can they do to that seal? So they dont sink. Im a yamaha guy, so dont know upgrades on them to prevent that. I wanted one, since to me seem they cut through choppy water like nothing.
So carbon fiber and launch control is it real carbon fiber or imitation. Am I right there’s another seadoo model with launch control ? Oh yeah steering damper it’s not an öhlins electronic steering damper lol
And all this will set you back what, 22--23 grand??? Get freaking real. In 1 year the value will be 14g. Then the next year 11g. And then in year 3, 8g. Do you really want to spend 14g for 3 years of ownership? And that's the cash price. IF you finance it then the cost per year is way higher.
" Highest or fastest performance watercraft ever " sorry seadoo what a joke! try racing a kawi 310 in ocean or big chop or try to race a stock yami gp in a closed course. Yeah sorry ur boasts are not worth anything. Only thing u made on this worth a sh it is the steering dampner. probably 5000 markups to make it 30 grand w trailer n taxes.
The kawa 310 weighs as much as 3 elephants. Yeah it may be good in the ocean, but its weight makes it significantly lack in agility and fun in the calmer stuff. It also drinks gas/petrol like a dog too. Cruised with 3 mates on the weekend, and after half a day of blasting it, the kawi owner had to head back in shore from the ocean, as he was on 15% fuel left. Us on our GTi 170s and GTR 230s still had 40/50pc of a tank left. After seeing that, I'm glad I didn't get a kawasaki.
No it f**king doesn't, JDD33. It's 46lbs. heavier than the RXT-X while being smaller and more narrow. And why is it 46lbs. heavier? Because it's made from FMC fiberglass and gel coat so it's strong. When compared apples-to-apples, the Ultra is a perfect rival to the RXT-X.
@@watercraftjournal Yes f**king way if you compare the correct models. The STX is 40-something lb heavier, the 310s are ocean tankers. RXT-X: 829lb, Ultra 310X: 1032lb
Again with the BS weight issue. If you guys would stop drinking the Sea Doo and Yamaha Kool Aid. Do your own homework or simply read what Kevin has posted over and over you would know Sea Doo and Yamaha post DRY weight which is silly because the ski needs a battery, oil and gas. SO THEY ARE MISLEADING YOU INTENTIONALLY. Kawasaki lists curb weight. With those luxury items like gas, oil and a battery. So when you actually put gas and oil and a battery in your Sea Doo or Yamaha the weight difference is about 40lbs as Kevin stated. And the Kawi has the far better and more durable hull. NO he was not referencing the STX. I certainly hope the 170 had a lot more gas after the ride!
It's a consumer test bed for the steering damper. If people like it they will make it an option on the normal RXP and probably the ST3 hull in general.
@@watercraftjournal best time to jetski in my opinion. personally i like the looks styling that kawi has compare to any others. Iv own seadoos just never liked them. Kawi or yamaha for me PERSONALLY .
I'm just waiting to hear what you say about the steering. When you do ride it! I'm a seadoo fan but all the models are ugly, excluding the spark. They look like flat headed pugs 🐶🤣
The Spark certainly has its place in the industry, and rightfully has earned its place as the top seller for half a decade. We'll hopefully get our hands on the Apex in a few weeks.
@@watercraftjournal don't confuse how they are priced and their real value. 10k I'm even generous for the high end models. some cheap once shouldn't be more than 5k. but yeah, they will never sell them at that price, especially nowadays
If you order now, you will receive it just before the 2025 model is released.
LOL
And for only 7k over MSRP!!
Also will have to wait for the ecu to show up 6 months after your ski is at the dealer
Yeah what's the point in ordering a new ski when they don't show up in time?
@@the14thcreed lol.. yep. Exactly my experience with the 2022. I put the down payment in February and just finally got it at the end of July. Sat in a crate at the dealer the whole time. My dealer also said “they won’t be making any improvements to the rxpx for at least a couple years”…
With a name like that I was hoping for a more performance oriented package versus a more visual/cosmetics package.
Definitely interested to see Kevin's thoughts on steering damper. And if the damper can be retrofitted too older skis ifs it's a real world improvement.
We're supposed to test it later this month.
I feel like were going back in time to the 2011 era when I purchased my first used pwc. Sea doo was driving the market prices higher and higher with more bells and whistles that are neat, but not really useful to the consumer. (Flashback to 2012) "Wow a sea doo with electronic suspension to smooth out the ride!! That's cool, but I really don't need that at $16k. I'm barely good with the 10-12K for a new lower end supercharged ski." Jet skis got so expensive then the sales fell on their face. "If I'm going to spend $20k on a ski, I could buy a good used boat for that much." Then sales started going to the Spark and Yamaha Ex era. Just give me a motor, handlebars, and a seat. People wanted to enjoy the water not take a second mortgage on their house to buy 2 jet skis and a trailer.
Prices are going up because the dollar buys less. The GTX Ltd. 300 jumped significantly without any changes.
amen
@@watercraftjournal thanks to the dems
Seriously 😳👍🤣😆
I've got an 07 Honda Aquatrax F12x with 450 hours and an 09 F15x with 200 hours. Reliable, quick enough and still going stronger than most current overpriced crap.
Well that’s absolutely sick! I’m sure it will be 18msrp and then when you find one at dealership. Suddenly it’s not 18k. It’s actually $25k plus another 3-4K in fees. And 3-5yrs of paying on it. It’s now you’re 35-40k paid off ski. Lol that’s worth 10k.
MSRP is listed in the link in the description ($21K)
In just a few years people who paid this kind of money will be slapping themselves in the foreheads for being so stupid.
@@watercraftjournal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And best of all it comes with a 2 year wait time standard! And if thats not all your new ski will come in with no dash, free of charge.
Nah. They'll rush this one out and all the other RXP's will have to wait.
Wow. A manufacturer’s press release. Great content.
Yes, this is Sea-Doo's video. We said so in the description.
In 93 my first XP was 5800.00 trailer was 350.00. That was a long time ago. No bells no whistles and no sponsons. That was fun! Then the got smart and had the dealer add them because the just about would turn
Nice
The new seadoos are so fresh this year that this model release was done in the middle of the night several weeks earlier than usual. Interesting steering idea but doubt most people need it. it's the color matching handles that will flood the orders coming in!
The reveal was last night with a 9pm EST embargo date. The media got the information only shortly before that, giving us VERY little time to prepare - hence the midnight publishing.
@@watercraftjournal Watercraft Journal did amazing with such a short turnaround. My point was Sea-Doo released this info on 9pm on a Sunday. Not exactly a great timeframe to drum up sales.
What is with this comment section getting its nipples in a twist over this? Are people really that oblivious to R&D that they don't recognize a consumer test bed when they see one? This clearly exists purely to get consumer feedback on the steering damper, if people like it/ it actually works to stop bow hunting in heavy chop then it will almost certainly become an option on the standard RXP and likely the ST3 hull as well. Manufacturers always prefer to roll out new tech on a small proportion of their product line by sales where possible, it's why Honda put the first ever dual clutch automatic hybrid transmission (a dual clutch with a torque converter between the clutches and the flywheel) in the Acura ILX back in 2016 instead of putting it in the Accord, and it's why sea doo made a special edition here.
And the people complaining that sea doo has barely changed its lineup since '22 need to realize that BRPs primary objective in '23 is and could only have been to get their supply chain issues ironed out so that people's expensive toys don't end up sitting at the dealer waiting on parts for months of prime season. A heavy redesign would have been anathema to that end and would have consumed the engineering resources being used to resolve that issue.
See, everyone? This guy gets it!
Wow, I like the looks of the Apex, carbon fiber really adds to the total package. I think it was smart to include the cover and passenger seat as I think most would buy them anyway. You can go out solo, or take the kids or who ever if its a group ride, gives you the best of both worlds. But with things the way they are in the world today, and many 2022 still sitting in crates waiting for parts... could be a long wait
...and that's why the vast majority of '23 models are direct carryovers from '22. They're blending the two years together so they can fulfill existing orders.
Color-matched hand grips? Black on black on dark grey with a dab of dark green? Be still my beating heart! Sea Doo offers any color you like - as long as it's black.
But it's not black... at all.
Still surprised millennium yellow 3 years in a row. Was hoping for 1 year run of triple black too to keep it more rare. Same with neo mint on wake pro. Since I own both of them lol. I want an rxpx too but was hoping for totally different colors.
You're surprised? SERIOUSLY? They're STILL trying to complete 2022 models sitting on dealer's floors. It's only logical to carry them over unchanged for 2023 so production can be fulfilled.
@@watercraftjournal yes seriously. How often have they run same color 3 years in a row? It's obvious that it's basically 22 carry over but they must have plenty of extra yellow and charcoal gray acrylic leftover. 2024 is obviously going to be new colors a across the lineup
So the same thing but instead of a clean black/gray/red its a puke green with a complicated steering system and carbon fiber ( aka spend all your money because we added this)
It's $21K!
@@watercraftjournal Thanks for clarifying what “exclusivity” meant that he used multiple times
@@watercraftjournal im just kidding. I have a 2022 rxpx 300 i got in july and I absolutely love it and now i have to talk bad about anything new 😂😂😂💀😭 im a greenbay packers fan i love green
So all they did was change some parts to carbon fiber, gave it power steering, and changed the colors, included some Linq accessories, and made it more expensive than the gtx limited? What the hell
But it's EXCLUSIVE! Fork over $21K!
It’s a steering dampner not power steering. Motorcycles have been using them for years. I didn’t know pwcs can get tank slop from bump steer, lol. Most pwcs eventually get a dampner but it’s not adjustable. It’s just a corroded cable or seized bushings. Lol. I’m actually surprised they haven’t came out with some type of fly by wire steering yet.
That damper dial looks cheap like it could snap. Let us know!
@@racerx2084 good to know thanks 👍
$600 base price increase plus $615 commodity surcharge on the GTX 300 limited. Color choices of Saige Green or Blue Abyss. I can live with the Saige Green but the Blue Abyss is a weird shade of blue. I don't know who picks these colors they should have kept the Liquid Titanium Black as a choice.
The Sage Green in person is pretty but absolutely invisible out on the ocean.
Which color did you go with?
Tim Ducat, you're famous.
Must admit it looks cool with great features but does the color coordinated hand grips make it handle any better in the chop or win an offshore Pro Aqua X race?
I am scared to even ask the price.. I'm more excited about the hydro foil.
$21k usd
No, Sea-Doos still struggle in rough water.
Seems like this year’s refresh of the lineup is an exercise in saving major handling/power/ergonomic improvements and a total redesign for later, and giving people just enough to be somewhat interested in paying the current market premiums for the newest machine out there. I feel like Sea-Doo could’ve done more here.
What it's about really is supply chain. BRPs objective is to ensure availability and delivery in 2023. A deep redesign would only exacerbate the delivery issues that are plaguing the industry.
@@flacjacket That can definitely factor into it, especially with the proposed total Spark redesign. I guess I sort of compare it to what Yamaha did with the rework of the GP. They kept it looking relatively the same, but changed a bunch of details to dynamically improve the riding experience. It seems like Sea-Doo is doing the opposite. Not changing much of the dynamic experience and only changing appearance. The ski will sell though, no question… It’s limited, exclusive, and probably expensive. People will lap it up.
The biggest issue is fulfilling existing orders, that is why much of the '23 lineup is identical to '22.
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The hydrolic steering demper sounds great. I used to put a flexx handlebar on my dirtbike (demping by rubber) could you use those dirtbike handlebars for watercrafts aswell?
Yes you can!
Love the carbon
Kinda cool, huh?
So many are complaining about price increases. With the cost of materials and shipping going up it was only a matter of time.
We did a whole video on it.
And for $21K! Carbon fiber sticker? There should be a Alpha! Real carbon fiber hood, no mirrors, no rear seat, no stereo, Real carbon fiber seat, cold air intake, tuned on E85, live EGTS, BIG RPM DIGITAL BRIGHT TACH, Tunned Exhaust, Scramble Boost button, Carbon Fiber cetch can, and a Carbon Fiber helmet. 90MPH of pure love!!
OE's would never make that.
@@watercraftjournal lol
@@jeffreylonghr lmao
@@aaron-fauth ;)
Exactly. Unfortunately coast gaurd speed regulations are real for the factory. But at least you can get almost that with Rivas SE skis. I feel the skis like the rxx are done bc they are already hitting the speeds. Sometimes they have to slow them down. A carbon fiber rear tail section of the seat would look awesome though. Just like they did in the old days. Or even the cover that you stuck the number on that they did years back when the 1st edition rxpx’s came out? Maybe it was available for all rxps can’t remember,
It’s funny I go to customize a seadoo like a GTI 170 and the starting price includes the brp audio but select that I don’t want any bundles the brp audio gets taken off and the price goes down. Strange. Must be a method behind it all.
Their website is borked.
So are these 2023 models any good or should I just get my gtr and spark trixx in 2022 models
Um, they're identical.
Man the new RSPSQSDS Apex is nice
LOL you forgot some letter in there
Great! I ordered my 2022 GTX limited and fishpro trophy is September 2021 and still don’t have it. Now they’re announcing the 2023? Geez.
And the 2023 is mainly carryovers of the 2022 models with zero changes.
Need to know if the hydraulic steering system can be installed on my 2021 rxpx 300.
It should - that is, if it works.
Sounds like a great idea, the plastic steering currently is worrisome at high speed corners and chop
If seadoo is so fast how come they always lose aqua X to to the Yamaha FX SVHO
There's a lot to be said for the athlete behind the bars.
I have the Seadoo GTR and Yamaha FX SVHO, the Seadoo accelerates quicker but has a lower top speed. The GTR is for racing and getting around a course quicker is it's focus. The FX is a cruiser, is very quick yet quick isn't its focus. In comparison the GTR will literally shoot out from your grip and from under you if you're not consciously prepared for it when accelerating from a stop or low speeds. I like FX for that reason I use it for tow sports vs. the GTR because its' just easier, many that ride both say this. However if you want to get out and just have a fun turning and popping over waves, etc the GTR is your ride, just about anyone will get carried away with the playing on the GTR. However if fast cruising is the activity, the FX shows up as the PWC of choice. The GTR does have eco-mode which works if you're wanting to get a lot of distance, it reduces acceleration and top speed is 52, which honestly is plenty especially if the water is rough. Both are a lot of fun for different reasons, I like having both options on my pier. Ginger or MaryAnn of PWC's. My FX is older, I do think we'll replace it with another one, originally we were gonna buy two Sea-Doo's however a GTR (not our first choice) and a slightly used FX SVHO were what we could get.
I want a bare bones model with 350 horsepower. Most people don’t need all those bells and whistles driving up prices.
Agreed
I’ll get the RXT X 2022 model in black!
Most will
@@watercraftjournal that’s going to make getting one problematic
It already is
Honda is going to do the HEDS system like they do on their motorcycles and instantly outdate that static one.
Honda won't be back
@@watercraftjournal The competition would be nice. That Kawi rips though, top notch review, but I know I'm not wrong about the static steering damper, those are prehistoric.
It reminds me the rxp from 2005 i think the hulk
Huh. Interesting comparison.
If there is no performance improvement, I'm not paying extra for it to look prettier. I'll just buy the standard RXP and upgrade it myself. Save my money 💰
That extra $4K goes a long way
Colered match hand grips and premium badging you really sold me on that BRP,the only nice thing here is Kendall
Do we sense a bit of sarcasm? :D
Nice machine but the color and the fact the hull is unstable in rough water at speed so needs a steering damper really isn't a feature but at least Seadoo is trying.
It's very unpredictable at speed in rough water.
Any info on the RISE or do I have to wait until tomorrow?
Good question! We reached out when we got these materials and received literally nothing in return.
@@watercraftjournalLooks like Sea-Doo just released the video for it on their channel.
Hey buddy I know this is completely off topic to the video and I apologize for that but how often should you start a pwc if you know it’s going to be sitting I’ve been busy for the past couple weeks and haven’t gotten to ride and my mechanic told me I should crank it up and let it run for about 15 seconds just to get new gas in the system I wanted to know your opinion on this
This sentence (because there's no punctuation) literally makes no sense. What are you asking?
@@watercraftjournal how often should you start up your pwc if you know it will be sitting? My mechanic told me that you should start it every 2 or 3 weeks if you haven’t taken it out. I was just wondering what your opinion on the matter was. Sorry
@@watercraftjournal he's asking how often should he start the ski if it's been sitting. Pretty simple read no need to be a jerk to subscribers . We are the reason you even have a business!..
Yeah he’s right! Start the engine maybe once a week and let it idle for 20/30 secs
Then maybe once every couple months start the engine and run fresh water through it for 5-10 mins
It’s good practice to also have it plugged into a trickle charger, but switch it off for a week or so every few months or it’ll dry the battery cells out prematurely.
@@TheMuddatrucker thank you
The coolest feature is the key from this will fit my 2022 SkiDoo snowmobile. Why is that you ask? Well because i dont have a secure DESS post because of the chip shortage. I have no idea when i will have one but im glad BRP is producing new units while 2022 models are still incomplete.
Lol, what is this critique? Did you know that sea doo has implemented 15,000 engineering changes across their lineup in order to streamline production to address the issue you are complaining about? The reason the 'new' lineup is almost identical to the '22 with the only new tech being the steering damper that this limited model exists to trial is because sea doos primary objective is to get the delivery times back under control. It's hardly like you can blame BRP for the dipshits in government grenading the global economy.
There's no pleasing folks.
@@watercraftjournal lol…when you are 100 miles from home on a snowmobile in the middle of nowhere and anyone with a BRP key can hop on your sled and drive away its not very pleasing . My point being , how can they take orders on future models when there are incomplete prior models?
Because they're CONTINUING THE SAME MODELS INTO 2023. Notice that 90% of the lineup is unchanged? Because they're dovetailing 2022 into '23.
You people don't seem to want a jet ski. You want an iPhone that floats...... I'm sick of these skis being priced higher and higher every year because a few clowns said they wanted more features. Do you want to ride and have fun or do you want a freaking smart phone that floats??? Get rid of all the bullshit and just make a fast and affordable ski. Nobody needs or wants half that electronic sht anyways.
Agreed. I would rather watch a speedo needle moving than a digital number changing.
Exactly! We did a video on this precise topic. Glad that we're not alone in this sentiment.
How about more power? Sorry but I won’t change my 2021 RXPX 300 Stage 3 for this 😴
Why? Both RXP-X and RXT-X out accelerate the competition.
@@watercraftjournal I love my 2021 RXPX, I just don’t think 🤔 the minor changes can justify buying the new machine 👍
So, when do you get to test it out?
In 2 weeks.
@@watercraftjournal perfect! I look forward to that video.
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Um, thanks?
Since it’s exclusive they must’ve fixed the hull right?
Nope. Same T3R hull
Who’s with me. I’m ready to sign up to buy one. 😂
Get in line!
how do they claim launch mode on this model is a industry first?
Good question, my 22 RXT has it😭
I think they introduced it in 19-20, my 20 RXT and 21 RXP both have it. Looks like nothing has changed for ‘23.
I caught that to. Kawis new Ultra for ‘22 has it as well….
BRP was the first to introduce Launch Control. That's their claim.
@@larry92663 I believe ‘18 was the year
I only heard that the Steering Column was reinforced with Carbon Fiber which leads me to believe that much of the Steering Column is still primarily a Plastic? or a Composition of Plastics and Carbon Fiber? What about the Carbon Fiber Hood and Mirror sections? Are these actually made of Carbon Fiber? or of a Faux Carbon Fiber for Visual Appeal only? I personally purchased a used 2015 GTX iS 260 Limited more than 2 years ago and I personally have accumulated well over 100 Hours on my Ski, I've had to make numerous repairs to my Ski during ownership, but nothing has ever gone wrong with the intelligent Suspension (iS), a Technology that Sea Doo chose to drop after the 2016 Model Year? Some say that Sea Doo dropped the Suspension Ski's because they were dificult to work on? I'm a Retired Professional Wrench (1974-2018 mostly on European Cars, Audi's primarily) and I have found my Suspension Ski much easier to work on than Audi's and other European Vehicles. I'm currently 66 Years of age, I pilot my Ski like I Stole it in the smooth to extremely Choppy Bay waters of Galveston Texas and in the Gulf of Mexico. If it weren't for my Ski having Suspension I wouldn't have put half the Hours on it as I have. Suspension Ski's are/were a Game Changer. Randy AKA randog311
The suspension skis were a big chore for technicians and ate up a LOT work hours just to get to the engine.
@@watercraftjournal Doesn't seem to be much more work than Engine access on a Spark? I've never had to completely remove the upper deck. Only repairs I can foresee requiring removal of the upper deck would be to remove the Engine and possibly to replace the Engine Mounts (I believe that I could possibly replace the Engine Mounts with the rear Suspension Hinge raised, Dog House, Supercharger, Intake Manifold, Exhaust Water Box and the Drive Shaft removed)? Regardless, at most add an aditional Hour to raise the rear Suspension and remove the Dog House which I've done several times. Sounds to me to be more of a case of the Mechanics (as a Pro Wrench myself, I never liked being referred to as a Technician) "not wanting too" rather than the actual Man Hours added to the time spent. Randy AKA randog311
My understanding was that it required a ceiling mounted winch to lift off the top deck
@@watercraftjournal Hello Kevin, if indeed it was necessary to completely remove the upper deck, a ceiling mounted winch would be one option, a far less expensive option would be to use a common automotive type "Cherry Picker" engine hoist/crane. My 2015 Ski currently has 174 Hours on it, I've never had to completely remove the upper deck. To perform most invasive Servicing or Maintenance, begin by first overriding the iS and raising it to the maximum height, then removing the swim platform along with Port side storage bin followed by removing the pair of trim pieces between the Stern storage bins the eight 8mm x 1.25 bolts are accessible. Mark the location of the slotted aluminum rear hinge mount, once these 8 Bolts are removed the back of the upper deck swings up under spring tension, then tie the hinge up out of the way using the Tow Eye and the Grab Rail. Now the Dog House can be unbolted and removed giving more than adequate access to perform most Maintenance or repairs such as repair or servicing the Supercharger, Intercooler, Carbon Seal, installation of an aftermarket Bilge Pump and much more (adds about an extra Hour Extra to the job of servicing the Supercharger over that of a non-suspension Ski). FYI: On more than one occasion I've R&I'ed the *Throttle Body* through the access panel under the seat. Iv'e also had the* Fuel Pump Module* in and out of the Tank numeus times by lifting out the front watertight Storage Bin and removing the 4 Bolts securing the forward Hull Vent and Hoses to gain limited access (have to work mostly Blind and by feel). Footnote: *I wouldn't recommend these limited access method's be attempted by a Novice. Randy AKA randog311
Not about performance. The apex of profit margin. Still if one was actually in a dealer why not.
LOL
How much?
$21K (see the link in the description - we detail the ski even further)
Can you get one of these models with a Yamaha engine?
LOL
Is it going to be limited quantities?
If not by design then the supply chain issues will make it a de facto limited edition.
Yes. Intentionally. Pre-orders close in November.
No thank you..I'll go with new kawasaki 310
Nice
Why? Seriously, I’m asking. I’m looking at the Kawi too. But found a couple 300’s (22’s & 23’s) priced right at the Kawi “X” price.
Would look so good in wine red
Maybe!
😍😍😍😍
Yeah?
😍
:D
Didn’t Kawasaki do most of that last year? On top of more wins then any other brand.
Carbon fiber and dampened steering?
All I heard was nothin but some corporate bullshit, as a die hard sea doo fan I don’t see the upsides of the apex over a standard model with a few after market upgrades, especially when you can’t just order one right up…
This is literally the video Sea-Doo gave us. So yeah, it’s their marketing dept.
Where is the 200w sound system seadoo?😔
Not happening
They know these are toys for rich people so they figured, what the hell, let's make an even more expensive and 'exclusive' toy for rich people.
Someone make this top comment. No average person can afford these toys. Especially not during a recession.
@@kenshinhimura9387 no average person can afford a jet ski ever, even a base spark will set you back about $12k by the time you have bought a trailer and paid taxes then it's going to consume a lot of fuel and have maintenance costs. It's the nature of boats in general, they have always been for the upper middle and upper class. Complaining about BRP making toys for rich people is like complaining about Piper making airplanes for rich people.
@@flacjacket A jet ski is by nature one of the most frivolous and unnecessary purchases ever. But that's how it is with toys. I can never understand the people that feel the need to pipe up with "Average people can't afford this" any time someone talks about an expensive item with limited utility. We are fortunate to live in a society where enough people are able to generate the income that justifies the creation and sale of such things.
@@flacjacket when I was a kid everyone could afford these things. Same as everyone could afford sport quads and crotch rockets. When I was in high school a lot of my friends had brand new bikes or quads because they only cost $10k. Even s kid with a part time job could afford these toys. Fast forward to today and they don't even make sport quads now because these idiot companies priced themselves out of the market. Now ask we have are side by side for rich guys and super expensive jet skis that nobody can afford.
I spent $17,000 in my RXT-X. I'm not poor, but im not rich either as i could not bring myself to put out $80,000 for a wake boat.
The fact that you place a 20,000 dollar PWC in a class of "only rich can afford" is laughable and pathetic. 🤣
And by exclusive they mean they'll only deliver three units in North America
Launch control has been available via a ski/X package module for a few years now, hasn't it?
Yes. It's NOT new.
I wonder how long you gonna wait for this one they can’t even get the 22s out
Pretty sure these will go out far faster than the lower tier stuff
Super 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Hope so!
How much will this jet ski go for?
$20,999 on the Seadoo website.
If only you clicked the link in the description
@@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel so apex is cheaper than rxp x 300
I love Seadoo I really do but this year this was the only ski I could get behind..
Most everything else is exactly the same as '22.
@@watercraftjournal color wise they flopped
@@MrPink-pe2mx big time lmao
It’s gonna have the nickname “bullet”. I like the neon ish green trim but the pea green isn’t my flavor neither. BUT…. It’s not banana yellow.
@@racerx2084 true very true it's not the magic school bus but I'm getting this Aquaman vibe it's kinda cool
Still 2 year warranty?
Per BRP, yes.
only thing i see different is the hydraulic bump steering
It’s not hydraulic steering. It’s just a hydraulic steering dampner. Motorcycles have been using them for years for bump steer so you don’t get tank slap. I didn’t realize you could get bump steer on a pwc.
The only thing of any consequence, yes.
Just bring the 97-04 XPL hull back
That would be fun!
It looks like it has a Ninja Turtle’s face.
Kowabunga!
So many buzz words theyre going to give apple a run for its money. I guess in a few more years all this stuff will matter as much as they really are trying to portray .. Until then more colors for us
" woo"
Yeah, there were some pretty egregious claims made last night.
Last I checked 300 was less than 310.
😆💯
Still out-accelerates the Kawi.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THE 2023 CARBON SEAL HAS BEEN REPAIRED SO THEY DONT BECOME SUBMARINES!! IF NOT DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THEM! I WANTED 1 BUT BECAUSE OF THAT I WENT WITH YAMAHA, 22 FX IS NICEE
Carbon seal was updated in 2020 and again in 2021. And STOP YELLING
@@watercraftjournal 🤣🤣🤣 so all the sub-doo i see sinking are 19 & ilder
No, most are people who are f**king idiots who don't know how to properly operate their machine.
@@watercraftjournal well, what can they do to that seal? So they dont sink. Im a yamaha guy, so dont know upgrades on them to prevent that. I wanted one, since to me seem they cut through choppy water like nothing.
Sea-Doo hulls are the currently the least successful in rough water.
4K more then the standard Rxpx, 4K buys a lot of performance in the aftermarket. Think I’ll stick with my 09 SHO, still hit 68 and on pump gas.
Yeah, another $4,000 would put this machine into the high 70's with a solid handling package from RIVA.
So carbon fiber and launch control is it real carbon fiber or imitation. Am I right there’s another seadoo model with launch control ? Oh yeah steering damper it’s not an öhlins electronic steering damper lol
All models with the X-Package has launch control.
And all this will set you back what, 22--23 grand??? Get freaking real. In 1 year the value will be 14g. Then the next year 11g. And then in year 3, 8g. Do you really want to spend 14g for 3 years of ownership? And that's the cash price. IF you finance it then the cost per year is way higher.
LOL clearly you haven't been watching the prices of used units.
Gotta be the biggest let down all year. I wanted a 2023 but my millennium yellow 2021 would be the same exact thing.
We told everyone that it was going to be mainly carryovers from 2022.
@@watercraftjournal I know you’re just the messenger and I understand covid ruined everything.
Covid? REALLY? Or radically devaluing US currency into the ground?
My gp1800r svho would dominate.
Very likely, yes
I will give seadoo this " its a very good looking skii. Much better than tacky purple or yellow.
Purple wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't married to yellow. (Jokermobile)
How do you make an rxpx even more expensive? Add a dumb name to it, carbon fiber, and call it exclusive.
And yet they will sell EVERY ONE of these...
" Highest or fastest performance watercraft ever " sorry seadoo what a joke! try racing a kawi 310 in ocean or big chop or try to race a stock yami gp in a closed course. Yeah sorry ur boasts are not worth anything. Only thing u made on this worth a sh it is the steering dampner. probably 5000 markups to make it 30 grand w trailer n taxes.
The kawa 310 weighs as much as 3 elephants. Yeah it may be good in the ocean, but its weight makes it significantly lack in agility and fun in the calmer stuff. It also drinks gas/petrol like a dog too. Cruised with 3 mates on the weekend, and after half a day of blasting it, the kawi owner had to head back in shore from the ocean, as he was on 15% fuel left. Us on our GTi 170s and GTR 230s still had 40/50pc of a tank left. After seeing that, I'm glad I didn't get a kawasaki.
No it f**king doesn't, JDD33. It's 46lbs. heavier than the RXT-X while being smaller and more narrow. And why is it 46lbs. heavier? Because it's made from FMC fiberglass and gel coat so it's strong. When compared apples-to-apples, the Ultra is a perfect rival to the RXT-X.
@@watercraftjournal Yes f**king way if you compare the correct models. The STX is 40-something lb heavier, the 310s are ocean tankers. RXT-X: 829lb, Ultra 310X: 1032lb
@@tiggietiggie6095 The STX is irrelevant…
Again with the BS weight issue. If you guys would stop drinking the Sea Doo and Yamaha Kool Aid. Do your own homework or simply read what Kevin has posted over and over you would know Sea Doo and Yamaha post DRY weight which is silly because the ski needs a battery, oil and gas. SO THEY ARE MISLEADING YOU INTENTIONALLY. Kawasaki lists curb weight. With those luxury items like gas, oil and a battery. So when you actually put gas and oil and a battery in your Sea Doo or Yamaha the weight difference is about 40lbs as Kevin stated. And the Kawi has the far better and more durable hull. NO he was not referencing the STX. I certainly hope the 170 had a lot more gas after the ride!
Soooo it's an appearance upgrade 🤷♂️
It's a consumer test bed for the steering damper. If people like it they will make it an option on the normal RXP and probably the ST3 hull in general.
"Exclusive limited edition."
It's why we have an aftermarket scene. No doubt whatever Seadoo steering system comes out, it'll be tossed for a aftermarket one anyway 🤷♂️
kawasaki 310 > All
In rough water, yes.
@@watercraftjournal best time to jetski in my opinion. personally i like the looks styling that kawi has compare to any others. Iv own seadoos just never liked them. Kawi or yamaha for me PERSONALLY .
I'm just waiting to hear what you say about the steering. When you do ride it! I'm a seadoo fan but all the models are ugly, excluding the spark. They look like flat headed pugs 🐶🤣
I think the opposite. The spark is an abomination 🤣
@@ThatCasualZach 🤣 dang
The Spark certainly has its place in the industry, and rightfully has earned its place as the top seller for half a decade.
We'll hopefully get our hands on the Apex in a few weeks.
I’ll pass
Many will
It's not a Yamaha..... PERIOD! 😂
No, it's a Sea-Doo. We thought that was pretty obvious.
@@watercraftjournal I know Kevin I was clowning when they said it was the best pwc PERIOD.... 😂 How you miss that bro....?
Because it's the Ultra 310X :P
Am I the only one that think this model looks like a 2004 rxp? Pretty hideous IMO
LOL
“More exclusive” what doe’s that even means.? Thanks I will pass. Lot of useless features to justify price increase.
It means "expensive."
This thing is a POS for 21k
Doesn't seem to be much to justify a 4K premium over the existing RXP-X
Yet we both know they'll sell every one of them.
Upgraded steering for 4k? No thanks. Pretty sad Seadoo
Hate to say it, but $4K goes a long way for performance parts.
Does it have the same hull???. You know the cheap crap that brakes and seadoo won't stand behind!!!?!!
CM-Tech? We haven't seen it breaking in large numbers.
there's no jet ski that has a value of more than 10k
Then you're clearly unaware of the cost of manufacturing and shipping, and the continued devaluing of the dollar.
@@watercraftjournal don't confuse how they are priced and their real value. 10k I'm even generous for the high end models. some cheap once shouldn't be more than 5k. but yeah, they will never sell them at that price, especially nowadays
I get what you're saying as typically, the dealer cost of a new unit is 60-65% of MSRP. But ALL retail is marked up 50%. That's called capitalism.
Meh, waste of money...you can buy a really nice boat for the price of this.
Just wait - they're all gonna get into the $20K range.
More products they can’t deliver
They'll deliver on this one.
Typical sea Doo gimmicks for the cottage riders
As opposed to what instead?
It’s ugly…..
It's different. That's for sure.
Green. 🤮
The color or the $$$?
@@watercraftjournal The color