@@giovannigiovanni.7220 I mean in this situation Tal also actually is Morgan, like how Clark is also Kal. While in the Flash it made no sense because Eobard and Wells were 2 different people and Eobard was pretending to be Wells. Flash writing was beyond braindead. Superman and Lois is slightly not braindead.
When she said 'something that changes how you look at things" I knew it was a girl. I mean, it's a CW go to. But Jordan response IMO is right. She's not sure of who she is, it's best for them to just be friends now. Jordan already has insecurities and it's just tough and sucks.
The show is becoming a bit predictable and that could be worrisome. When Sarah went off to camp I remember saying to myself please don't make it the often-used I went camping and discovered that I'm gay trope, it's literally been used countless times, also, if it is indeed Doomsday don't use the love triangle trope, Superman is dead, Lois starts having real feelings for John, and Superman returns, that trope has been used countless times as well. And, since the CW loves tropes, don't be surprised if Natalie and Sarah become a couple while Natalie is living with Jordan and his family. Hopefully, the show won't lose sight of what has made it so successful with the public and profitable with advertisers, Superman & Lois.
His sister from another mister most likely will or his brother I'm not gonna lie I can really see a line like that being used in the show. Honestly it kinda sounds like a Clark Kent line.
@@TheTruth-13 look at this way: he wasn't so much offended by the kiss but by how she kept insisting "it was nothing", like trying to sugarcoat something or pretend it didn't happen. You don't just kiss someone for no reason. From the way she described it it was a two way kiss, but she entered the convo with Jordan trying to frame it as "nothing". She's a teenager and is unsure of herself and her emotions, so I think that contributes to the way she told Jordan, but it was nonetheless the wrong way to tell him about it. I see her getting a lot of unfair flack for her cheating but I have a feeling it's something a lot of people go through and it's a good chance to reanalyze your feelings.
I like how Jordon was allowed to be upset about this, 'cause she did cheat, but at the same time I get being young and trying to find yourself so It's not like I think Sarah is a horrible person. The bottom line, the kid characters are allowed to be kids and I like that.
@@megatronusorionpax4900 They added 3 new leading female characters, Lana will run for mayor, Sarah's sexuality will now be a main plot point, Superman has been made un-american, Kyle (sarah's dad) apparently can't fix a car but a teenage girl can in seconds, A girl cheating isn't a big deal, and most of the remaining male characters are assholes. And I'm convinced they're going to have Lois cheat on Clark. The CW and WB simply can't help themselves.
@@polgara007 Superman is not bound to America, how is that a red flag? Superman sworn his allegiance to the world not 1 country. Lana has been a big part of the show and is a main character, her running for mayor is completely natural. Sarah’s sexuality has not been confirmed, she said she was kissed and it has yet to be a plot point and also “main plot point is completely false. Jordan has always been a crybaby since the first episode and when he figured out Clark was Superman. Sarah’s dad has always been the same. None of your claims has been valid
@@CyGea claims there are red flag but doesn’t say what they are so others such as myself can counter and deny your claims like I did the other guy. Sarah kissing a girl and saying she didn’t expect it is completely natural
Do you think it's possible that kid is taking some form of x-k and Jonathan confronts him about it, and gets pressured into taking it, which could potentially jump start his kryptonian dormant powers, or perhaps he has a super reaction because he's half kryptonian?
I know they announced who is in the cave but I’m feeling misdirection. Clark is having the same symptoms that the two Alices had on Batgirl when one crossed over from a different dimension, we could be looking at Black Suit Superman or Zod. I’m feeling misdirection all over this situation
Tag ditched his X-men outfit and got himself a "Super-men" outfit. The only connection I can think of between Superman and Doomsday, may have to do with Clark being a natural birth Kryptonian, rather engineered. This version of Doomsday could be the same and somehow mutated into a monster. Partially, I hope it's not, Doomsday is Superman from another Earth or Doomsday and Superman share the same DNA.
The showrunner Todd Helbing did say they would take inspiration from characters and story lines from the comics but then do their own take in a way that hasn't been done before. Kal El's mother said what he's experiencing was inter-dimensional kinesthesis. Kinesthesis refers to a sensory experience derived from movement sensory receptors in the body. Inter-dimensional implies it comes from another dimension or alternate universe. You could be right about this Doomsday sharing DNA with Superman. In the comics, Doomsday had many abilities, one of which was secreting a toxin that could convert others into a Doomsday-like character. What if an alternate universe Superman was changed by this toxin to become a Doomsday creature who somehow crossed dimensions to this universe?
Maybe it's a Crisis tie in? Clark fought Doomsday pre-crisis so maybe it's a psychic link due to pre crisis memories. There's a reason I'm not a writer but if Clark doesn't recognise Doomsday then it confirms, to me, that he does not have his memories and he's only been told about the actual crisis.
I already hated Anderson but his reaction to Tag. Like he doesn't care and they are just weapons to him. I think they are going to go up against Doomsday and get destroyed. Then he will have to rethink everything. These kids are not ready for a real threat.
I love this comment section, i saw on another video people just bashing Sara and i wanted to bitch slap all of them for not having basic empathy, but here, they actually get it, they are teens, its not a good think what she did, but at least you should be able to undertand her, and that its not easy to know who you are.
When I was 15 I was dating someone who broke up with me before they started experimenting if they were lesbian or not, it isn't that difficult to not cheat on your partners even at that age. If you want to try being with other people you break up with your partner before you start doing that sort of stuff
Sorry I will never understand cheaters. You can give any excuse in the book and I never feel sorry for them and this is the second time she kissed someone while she’s in a relationship so she’s get zero sympathy from me
@@mainemail5506 I dont like cheating neither, i think is stupid, but they are 15, barely started dating, and she apparently just realized her feelings for girls which most be confused, as i said, i dont condone what she did, but still, you all are acting as if they have being dating for years, or are married with childrens, damn, chill. On another note, she didnt kiss him, He kissed her, BIG diference.
@@blazingwolf4464 i responded like three times the comment and all of them deleted itself, or i dont know if you can see it and i dont, but anyway, i didnt know how to anwser two people, so please read the comment i left for the other person, sorry for the trouble.
@@martinacosta3821 Even as an adult, sexuality and signals can be confusing. You think you're just close til someone makes a move and you realize they thought the relationship was something else. Especially when you hadn't considered their gender that way before
i dunno, the impression that i got from sara's story was that she thought she made a friend at camp, the friend aubrey, caught feelings for sara and kissed her. now sara seems to be dealing with 'wait, am i bi?' along with 'wait, i just cheated on my boyfriend'. look, sara seems like the kind of girl that takes on a lot of responsibility. on the one hand, if she accepts 'responsibility' for the kiss, then she participated in it, and she wasn't 'assaulted' and she doesn't have to go and tell her friend that hey, that kiss was a sa. so there is that whole mess to deal with it.
It is both of them, Sarah and Jordan, have to deal with their feelings. She is still questioning herself and he needs to process this. Much like real people have to do.
@@robert_bbiii i get that. but the reason i left my comment is because i'm noticing a lot of people just getting on sara's back for basically having a bi experience and dealing with it in a pretty understandable way. she basically tried to make a friend on camp, got a surprise kiss, has a possibly bi awakening and, bonus, cheated on her boyfriend unintentionally. saw a lot of people just piling on hate on her because she 'cheated' on the kent boy with anxiety. i like the kent boys a normal amount, they're good boys. but a teenager at camp is gonna try to make friends, and sara being the catch that she is is gonna garner some attention. and some people are gonna shoot their shot. don't mean to rant at you robert, but it is mildly frustrating to see a girl who in all honesty probably had an accidental, unintentional tryst and be labelled a cheater. it's frustrating. if jordan had been the one to get hit on by another girl, feels intensely guilty about it, comes clean to sara, and sara just walks away from him, sara would be called unreasonable. again, i know i'm ranting, but this kind of double standard really frustrates me. because a lot of people if the genders were swapped would be totally cool with a guy not telling his gf that he got lucky during summer camp. or call him coming clean to his gf that he was just asking trouble. or call him noble for coming clean. sara, in this same situation is being called a cheater for hurting our boy. it's a double standard that i don't appreciate. again, sorry for the rant.
@@feifiefofum1 no worries. I agree with most of what you're saying. I am just saying for Jordan it doesn't matter who she kissed. It is just that she kissed someone. Her feelings about the incident are valid. His feelings are also valid. Put yourself in both their shoes and we'd feel the same way. Right now Jordan is dealing with the emotions of it. They both need to talk more. Why keeping secrets like this in a relationship can do more harm than good.
@@robert_bbiii oh yeah, jordan being hurt over this development is completely valid, and no doubt they should talk this out. my problem is that everyone seems to be jumping at the opportunity to call sara a cheater which i think is uncalled for and uncool.
How? The way he took What sarahs said shows he’s still an emotional baby. One of my least favorite. First with the way he acted figuring out Clark was Superman and now this. He has yet to react to any situation well
@@TheTruth-13 How was it immature to thank her for being honest and then get some space for both of them? What did you want him to do? Of course he’s hurt, but he didn’t lash out because of it
I think it could be Superman from John & Nats earth and maybe it followed John or Natalie to this earth but got trapped beneath ground. Maybe he'll be our version of Bizarro. And as for the visions, it seems like Clark is looking thru the eyes of the person digging through the mine so maybe he's seeing what his variant sees.
When that crook used an inhaler my first thought was Bane and his Venom, if someone has found a way to mass produce it and cut it with x-kryptonite to give people powers and sell it like a street drug, I could see Anderson doing that to get more super kids for his army and using the population as Guinea pigs to do it.
36:24 Not sure if it's true, but from what I heard, Jon & Lois go with a Jor-El into space and Lois immediately abandons Jon to go back to Earth. Then Jon get abandoned by his crazy grandpa and ends up in Earth-3 where he is trapped in a volcano by Ultraman for years till he is old enough to join the Legion of Superheroes. Again not sure if it's true, but if Bendis' run of Justice League is any indication then I wouldn't be surprised
I think Anderson wants whatever thing is under the mine to take down Superman and then his team, wearing the crest the if the house of EL, will take it down. Kind of like Mysterio, cause and threat and stop it to replace he real hero.
Before I press play, when I watched the episode and her reveal was that she kissed someone...not sure why but i burst out laughing, I get that it can be devistating for a teenager, but it was just funny with how serious it's taken.
It would be interesting if it was a Superman from another earth how became doomsday. It was done in the new 52 for a time so there’s a precedent for that version of Clark to exist. And it makes sense that he’s getting headaches and stuff, cause it’s him but not. Maybe the Superman from John Henry’s earth came through and someone transformed into doomsday because of the X kryptonite? We never saw what exactly happened to that Superman
Also, it could play into what they tackled in this episode. Kryptonians were genetically engineered, not born. The reason Superman is being affected and not Edge is because Superman is a natural birthed full Kryptonian, which is why Jodan isn't affected, because he's only half. Doomsday is the natural selection, as Doomsday is a genetically engineered monstrosity. He's the complete antithesis of Superman. Doomsday was created using every type of genetic material. The suit we see in the show looks similar to the suit Doomsday was chained up with in the comics when he was first discovered, albeit with the addition of lights. Doomsday could be introduced with killing the Super-Soldiers, which forces Anderson to rethink his whole mindset. It's also possibly Bizarro, which would make it the second time we've ever seen him in live-action (The first one being in the Superman movies during Reeves' run).
I think maybe the visions Clark is having, is Doomsday locating the apex predator. I think Evil Superman from John’s earth sent him here to kill Superman and John, to make way for him. He probably lost his powers, and he will use X-Krypto to restore them. He is essentially taking the place of Darkseid in the animated movie.
I think the call at the end will be connected to the cult leader and them wanting to bring forth chaos and destruction. The school story I feel will be Jon due to feeling powerless will get involved in x-kryptonite floating around the black market. If it's on the black market it's likely being messed with & modified which could lead to dangerous side effects. I'd agree with you, the only relationship on the show I'm invested in is Lois & Clark's, the kids are 15, it would be unrealistic if they didn't swap & change & experiment.
Doomsday and Clark are both kryptonian . Perhaps Jor-el created doomsday with zod to be the perfect soldier. Perhaps Doomsday is a clone of Jor-el that was mutated and manipulated by Zod. What if Doomsday has been buried in that mine since 1979. As for Sarah I thing she is just a teenager and maybe its just a thing that happened. It would be cliche to have her be bisexual. Her and Jordan dating is similar to Clark and Lana. And I'm sure a awkward moments will happen in future seasons. Leading interesting conversations with Lana and Clark. I can see Lana becoming the mayor, I can see sarah causing some issues at some point. And obviously evil superman will become the new bizarro Didn't smallville have pa kent run for mayor ? Similar storyline?
c'mon, do they really not think that it could be Doomsday? i think it's pretty obvious by now and eric said he read a comic book when he was kid about this situation
I don't want to create angst but if she references that her sister was thrown off when supergirl stole her man's and that concluded with the thoughts she wanted to drown for can just be simply a callback.
Why would Clark leave all that X-kryptonite there? Why wouldn’t he dig it all up and take it, technically being a kryptonian, he has rights to it. He and Kara could come in and dig it all up
To be fair, BvS had him progressively get more comic-accurate as the fight went on. With each bit of damage, he grew more spikes each time he evolved, exactly like he did in the comics.
If I was Jordan I would be more pissed of that you forgot about me. You knew we had something planned you forgot about it??? If the camp thing didn’t really mean anything than why push me away. That’s would be the thing that would pissed me off more than anything
I have feeling that they're gonna start doing jonathan dirty again, I think he's gonna get hooked on the drug that all of the enhanced people are taking whilst getting in a weight lifting competition with that dude from his school or he's gonna uncover that the dude at his school doesn't actually have natural farm boy strength and instead is using the drug himself and expose him for it.
@@Nemisis007 Too bad CW keep getting predictable and reusing plot points. I hope it’s executed well and not just another pointless drama to teach a lesson. I have hopes for only this show.
Genetic kryptonians will attack doomsday first, probably get killed, superman will give his life defeating doomsday making everyone realize why he can't just give allegiance to one country because of entire planet threats. Also doomsday is a kryptonian weapon which is why kal el seems to have a connection to him. (Insert He-Man meme)....I'll be back with more interesting information
we know the real answer but with the psychic link evil superman would have made more sense. the irons wouldn't have the same problem because their versions in this reality are dead.
There is a bit of soap opera story whiplash... there's too many dramas to focus. Kryptonian, Kent/Lane, Kent/Lang, Henry/Lane, Superman/DoD, and Lang for Mayor... it's a lot of fibers to inject another drama of a monster supervillain clawing out from a cave. I hope it doesn't overwhelm casual watchers.
@@newt1110 they can get mad because sarah cheated on jordan but not because of their sexual orientation, they take it very seriously when something comes out about the lgbt community
CW red flags everywhere in this episode. CW can't help themselves but add, UNNEEDED (not that kind of show), drama into their storylines. We spent 2 episodes just getting Lana to do, what we KNEW she would/should do! Run for mayor herself. At first I liked the idea of John and Nat sticking in Smallville (There could be a nice duality storyline about accepting half-siblings, with Kal and his brother, and the boys and Nat.)...but now I dread the storylines that may be coming. They are going to have Lois and John kiss, and make me HATE Lois (Those two better social distance when they "kill" Kal). Lois telling her "partner" their secret, without talking to her family first, will also make me hate her. I kissed a girl and liked it Sarah is going to fall for Nat (who will be bi or gay (because CW straight girls can't fix cars)), causing issues with Jordan. Please god, let me be wrong, and keep CW's horrible relationship writing from killing this show.
A lot of these weren't red flags but stuff you created as possible stuff they probably won't even do. But I don't think anyone "knew" Lana would run for mayor or that it was an obvious thing because there was already someone good who was running until this episode since the former one interfered somehow
@@megatronusorionpax4900 That somebody good, was only “good” because Lana backed him. And yes “red flags” are just possible problems. As my post was praying that it doesn’t happen.
It’s because she has her dad with her to put her straight and remind her that he isn’t the same person otherwise it would have taken her just as long as it took her dad when he was alone having to come to terms with superman not being the same person
Yeah, I expected Natalie to have more of a reaction to being around Clark. Even though she knows he's not the same person, I thought there'd still be an emotional response and instinctive fear of the doppelganger of the guy who murdered her mother and burned down the world
I’m so glad that they didn’t go with Jordan being okay with her kissing a girl because were lesbian and your suppose to be okay with it. It’s not okay she was With Jordan and he had every right to be upset. So props to them
Jordan is the crybaby crying over a kiss, hardly dating if that caused an overreaction, he’s with her purely off emotion, he even tried to kiss her when they just met
@@TheTruth-13 No offense but do you hear the words coming out of your mouth? You’re saying it’s ok to kiss someone else when you’re dating someone? And it’s Jordan’s fault for being mad about it? You’re the one trippin.
Props to Eric for keeping a straight face whenever HE was the topic
He who?
Doomsday I think
That is nothing compared to Aaron keeping a straight face through 12 seasons worth of Doctor Who discussions.
It must be killing Eric not being able to say what the "monsterous figure" is to keep Aaron in the dark.
Sooo.... how's this comment holding up?
@@krisb.1565 I will happily admit I got bamboozled... again by Todd Helbing and the writers lol
My fav part is when Superman has his vision and everyone is in shock. Nobody had seen superman have that kind of reaction. Amazing.
I noticed that they're not even calling him Morgan Edge anymore. It's just Tal-Rho now.
That's good. I'm not having a repeat like The Flash where they call Eobard Thawne Harrison Wells.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 no?? They call thawed thawe only wells if they don’t know it’s thawne
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 I mean in this situation Tal also actually is Morgan, like how Clark is also Kal. While in the Flash it made no sense because Eobard and Wells were 2 different people and Eobard was pretending to be Wells.
Flash writing was beyond braindead. Superman and Lois is slightly not braindead.
When she said 'something that changes how you look at things" I knew it was a girl. I mean, it's a CW go to. But Jordan response IMO is right. She's not sure of who she is, it's best for them to just be friends now. Jordan already has insecurities and it's just tough and sucks.
True, he did the responsible thing and stopped being so clingy and gave her the space she needs to process her feelings.
He deserves someone better to be honest.
The show is becoming a bit predictable and that could be worrisome. When Sarah went off to camp I remember saying to myself please don't make it the often-used I went camping and discovered that I'm gay trope, it's literally been used countless times, also, if it is indeed Doomsday don't use the love triangle trope, Superman is dead, Lois starts having real feelings for John, and Superman returns, that trope has been used countless times as well. And, since the CW loves tropes, don't be surprised if Natalie and Sarah become a couple while Natalie is living with Jordan and his family. Hopefully, the show won't lose sight of what has made it so successful with the public and profitable with advertisers, Superman & Lois.
@@samuraiwarriorsunite i thought about that too omg i really really hope we are wrong, that would be so bad
@@samuraiwarriorsunite pretty sure she's bi/pan, and frankly... Everybody is, to some extent. Straight is boring and dumb
Someone gotta tell Jordan. “That’s rough buddy”
His sister from another mister most likely will or his brother I'm not gonna lie I can really see a line like that being used in the show.
Honestly it kinda sounds like a Clark Kent line.
It’s not though, she didn’t die, he overreacted over a kiss out of a reaction. He’s a baby
@@TheTruth-13 look at this way: he wasn't so much offended by the kiss but by how she kept insisting "it was nothing", like trying to sugarcoat something or pretend it didn't happen. You don't just kiss someone for no reason. From the way she described it it was a two way kiss, but she entered the convo with Jordan trying to frame it as "nothing". She's a teenager and is unsure of herself and her emotions, so I think that contributes to the way she told Jordan, but it was nonetheless the wrong way to tell him about it. I see her getting a lot of unfair flack for her cheating but I have a feeling it's something a lot of people go through and it's a good chance to reanalyze your feelings.
@@TheTruth-13 If anything he under reacted, most boys his age would act a complete fool
@@TheTruth-13 His reaction to his girlfriend cheating on him was completely reasonable.
I like how Jordon was allowed to be upset about this, 'cause she did cheat, but at the same time I get being young and trying to find yourself so It's not like I think Sarah is a horrible person. The bottom line, the kid characters are allowed to be kids and I like that.
She officially scissored ties...
I completely agree. Nobody is perfect at 15. God, I love this show. The characters feel like REAL people.
@@captaintacomeat.223 oh go to hell 🤣 eh who am I kinda what happened between her and her science partner left her tongue tied.
@@hidoradaikaiju4205 that's what makes it great.
@@captaintacomeat.223 i think that was a lesbian pun but i can't quite put my *finger* on it
14:50 Aaron's guess knocked it out of the park "Another dimension Clark Kent" while Eric got caught with the ol switch-a-roo
This show just keeps getting better and better
This episode had some HUGE CW red-flags.
@@CyGea besides Sarah kissing a girl what else could be a "red flag" by you guys?
@@megatronusorionpax4900 They added 3 new leading female characters, Lana will run for mayor, Sarah's sexuality will now be a main plot point, Superman has been made un-american, Kyle (sarah's dad) apparently can't fix a car but a teenage girl can in seconds, A girl cheating isn't a big deal, and most of the remaining male characters are assholes. And I'm convinced they're going to have Lois cheat on Clark. The CW and WB simply can't help themselves.
@@polgara007 Superman is not bound to America, how is that a red flag? Superman sworn his allegiance to the world not 1 country. Lana has been a big part of the show and is a main character, her running for mayor is completely natural. Sarah’s sexuality has not been confirmed, she said she was kissed and it has yet to be a plot point and also “main plot point is completely false. Jordan has always been a crybaby since the first episode and when he figured out Clark was Superman. Sarah’s dad has always been the same. None of your claims has been valid
@@CyGea claims there are red flag but doesn’t say what they are so others such as myself can counter and deny your claims like I did the other guy. Sarah kissing a girl and saying she didn’t expect it is completely natural
Totally didn't think of the connection between the cult leader and Allison Mack until Aaron brought it up 😄
This season's made me mad uncomfortable with the parallels there 😐 but also it's written really well so
Lmao
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought about Allison Mack
Just so you know, in the comics Dr. Faulkner is also known as Rampage- DC's answer to She- Hulk
Aka a better Fuerza 😅
Tal deserves a redemption arc.
The uncle joke killed me😂😂😂
Lol just re watch it and it jolt me again
Do you think it's possible that kid is taking some form of x-k and Jonathan confronts him about it, and gets pressured into taking it, which could potentially jump start his kryptonian dormant powers, or perhaps he has a super reaction because he's half kryptonian?
I don’t think he’ll confront him but he’ll probably get it another way
@@tylerwelty9847 lol
@@tylerwelty9847 RIP
I know they announced who is in the cave but I’m feeling misdirection. Clark is having the same symptoms that the two Alices had on Batgirl when one crossed over from a different dimension, we could be looking at Black Suit Superman or Zod. I’m feeling misdirection all over this situation
Tag ditched his X-men outfit and got himself a "Super-men" outfit.
The only connection I can think of between Superman and Doomsday, may have to do with Clark being a natural birth Kryptonian, rather engineered. This version of Doomsday could be the same and somehow mutated into a monster.
Partially, I hope it's not, Doomsday is Superman from another Earth or Doomsday and Superman share the same DNA.
The showrunner Todd Helbing did say they would take inspiration from characters and story lines from the comics but then do their own take in a way that hasn't been done before. Kal El's mother said what he's experiencing was inter-dimensional kinesthesis. Kinesthesis refers to a sensory experience derived from movement sensory receptors in the body. Inter-dimensional implies it comes from another dimension or alternate universe. You could be right about this Doomsday sharing DNA with Superman. In the comics, Doomsday had many abilities, one of which was secreting a toxin that could convert others into a Doomsday-like character. What if an alternate universe Superman was changed by this toxin to become a Doomsday creature who somehow crossed dimensions to this universe?
Maybe it's a Crisis tie in? Clark fought Doomsday pre-crisis so maybe it's a psychic link due to pre crisis memories. There's a reason I'm not a writer but if Clark doesn't recognise Doomsday then it confirms, to me, that he does not have his memories and he's only been told about the actual crisis.
"Everyone wants superpowers." Unless you're from Central City. XD
Some of them Metas take the cure.
peacemaker and superman and lois are the best dc shows
When the topic of Ally and a cult were mentioned. I thought of Allison Mack and that cult she was recruiting for.
I already hated Anderson but his reaction to Tag. Like he doesn't care and they are just weapons to him.
I think they are going to go up against Doomsday and get destroyed. Then he will have to rethink everything. These kids are not ready for a real threat.
You called it
More than likely it's Doomsday in his containment suit, but i'd freak out if it was somehow Bizarro.
Bizarro is so cool but I think doomsday is a more.classic or iconic for audiences
@@kR-qj7rw The showrunner already confirmed it's Doomsday.
Did you see tonight’s episode lol
@@TruthSeeker23099 I did! And I definitely freaked out! Lol
@@bojax yea i definitely wasn’t expecting that
I agree that that kid is juicing x-kryptonite. There probably gonna do like a small drug epidemic thing with it.
i feel so so sad for Jordan, my boy deserves the best!! but i also understand Sarah so yeah
Don’t feel sad at all, he’s a baby, that overreacts to every situation that involves his life
@@TheTruth-13 Sarah cheated, and he got Sad, How is this overeacting?
You understand people cheating? YIKES
so we got a Steel, an Eradicator, and a Superboy (Jordan), just need a Cyborg Superman
My money is on Liutenant Asshole becoming a new take on Cybrog Superman. Either that or bring David Harewood back.
We need Mullet superman and the blue and red one and we got the 90s mumbo jumbo
This Cyborg Superman will be coming played by Tyler I am sure. Evil Superman has to be involved in this. My theory is HE sent Doomsday.
I love this comment section, i saw on another video people just bashing Sara and i wanted to bitch slap all of them for not having basic empathy, but here, they actually get it, they are teens, its not a good think what she did, but at least you should be able to undertand her, and that its not easy to know who you are.
When I was 15 I was dating someone who broke up with me before they started experimenting if they were lesbian or not, it isn't that difficult to not cheat on your partners even at that age. If you want to try being with other people you break up with your partner before you start doing that sort of stuff
Sorry I will never understand cheaters. You can give any excuse in the book and I never feel sorry for them and this is the second time she kissed someone while she’s in a relationship so she’s get zero sympathy from me
@@mainemail5506 I dont like cheating neither, i think is stupid, but they are 15, barely started dating, and she apparently just realized her feelings for girls which most be confused, as i said, i dont condone what she did, but still, you all are acting as if they have being dating for years, or are married with childrens, damn, chill.
On another note, she didnt kiss him, He kissed her, BIG diference.
@@blazingwolf4464 i responded like three times the comment and all of them deleted itself, or i dont know if you can see it and i dont, but anyway, i didnt know how to anwser two people, so please read the comment i left for the other person, sorry for the trouble.
@@martinacosta3821 Even as an adult, sexuality and signals can be confusing. You think you're just close til someone makes a move and you realize they thought the relationship was something else. Especially when you hadn't considered their gender that way before
I'm loving Jordon a lot him and his brother are my favorites and I can't wait to see the look on Arron's face when he realizes who came through haha
i dunno, the impression that i got from sara's story was that she thought she made a friend at camp, the friend aubrey, caught feelings for sara and kissed her. now sara seems to be dealing with 'wait, am i bi?' along with 'wait, i just cheated on my boyfriend'.
look, sara seems like the kind of girl that takes on a lot of responsibility. on the one hand, if she accepts 'responsibility' for the kiss, then she participated in it, and she wasn't 'assaulted' and she doesn't have to go and tell her friend that hey, that kiss was a sa. so there is that whole mess to deal with it.
It is both of them, Sarah and Jordan, have to deal with their feelings. She is still questioning herself and he needs to process this. Much like real people have to do.
@@robert_bbiii i get that. but the reason i left my comment is because i'm noticing a lot of people just getting on sara's back for basically having a bi experience and dealing with it in a pretty understandable way.
she basically tried to make a friend on camp, got a surprise kiss, has a possibly bi awakening and, bonus, cheated on her boyfriend unintentionally.
saw a lot of people just piling on hate on her because she 'cheated' on the kent boy with anxiety.
i like the kent boys a normal amount, they're good boys. but a teenager at camp is gonna try to make friends, and sara being the catch that she is is gonna garner some attention. and some people are gonna shoot their shot.
don't mean to rant at you robert, but it is mildly frustrating to see a girl who in all honesty probably had an accidental, unintentional tryst and be labelled a cheater. it's frustrating. if jordan had been the one to get hit on by another girl, feels intensely guilty about it, comes clean to sara, and sara just walks away from him, sara would be called unreasonable.
again, i know i'm ranting, but this kind of double standard really frustrates me. because a lot of people if the genders were swapped would be totally cool with a guy not telling his gf that he got lucky during summer camp. or call him coming clean to his gf that he was just asking trouble. or call him noble for coming clean.
sara, in this same situation is being called a cheater for hurting our boy. it's a double standard that i don't appreciate.
again, sorry for the rant.
@@feifiefofum1 no worries.
I agree with most of what you're saying.
I am just saying for Jordan it doesn't matter who she kissed. It is just that she kissed someone.
Her feelings about the incident are valid. His feelings are also valid. Put yourself in both their shoes and we'd feel the same way. Right now Jordan is dealing with the emotions of it. They both need to talk more. Why keeping secrets like this in a relationship can do more harm than good.
@@robert_bbiii oh yeah, jordan being hurt over this development is completely valid, and no doubt they should talk this out. my problem is that everyone seems to be jumping at the opportunity to call sara a cheater which i think is uncalled for and uncool.
@@feifiefofum1 agreed.
Jordan is starting to be my top favorite character of the show.
He’s grown a lot since the first episode
How? The way he took What sarahs said shows he’s still an emotional baby. One of my least favorite. First with the way he acted figuring out Clark was Superman and now this. He has yet to react to any situation well
@@TheTruth-13 How was it immature to thank her for being honest and then get some space for both of them? What did you want him to do? Of course he’s hurt, but he didn’t lash out because of it
@@TheTruth-13 I actually thought he was calm…compared 2 how he normally acts
@@TheTruth-13 how would you react if your girlfriend cheated on you? Probably like Jordan
DOOOOOMSDAY is here!!! Cannot wait for next weeks episode
I am 90% sure the "monsterous figure" is likely to be Doomsday
Hey, I come from the future. That 10% was a bitch.
@@7felipe14 Bruh it even had the girl call someone at the end like the girl who called Lex about Doomsday in the animated movie.
I think it could be Superman from John & Nats earth and maybe it followed John or Natalie to this earth but got trapped beneath ground. Maybe he'll be our version of Bizarro. And as for the visions, it seems like Clark is looking thru the eyes of the person digging through the mine so maybe he's seeing what his variant sees.
The actress playing Sarah is too good for this cheating thing. It makes everyone that has gone through that, just a little uncomfortable lol.
When that crook used an inhaler my first thought was Bane and his Venom, if someone has found a way to mass produce it and cut it with x-kryptonite to give people powers and sell it like a street drug, I could see Anderson doing that to get more super kids for his army and using the population as Guinea pigs to do it.
36:24 Not sure if it's true, but from what I heard, Jon & Lois go with a Jor-El into space and Lois immediately abandons Jon to go back to Earth. Then Jon get abandoned by his crazy grandpa and ends up in Earth-3 where he is trapped in a volcano by Ultraman for years till he is old enough to join the Legion of Superheroes. Again not sure if it's true, but if Bendis' run of Justice League is any indication then I wouldn't be surprised
I’m calling it now, season 3 will be based on Reign of the Supermen
Probably the second half of season 2 at the pace the show is going.
I honestly think Clark could die the next 2 episodes and then come back towards the end of the season
Doomdays, it’s the suit in death superman when tunnel from earth core.
Same actress that played Lucy is scheduled to appear in a future episode as Lucy again
That kid is doing X-Kryptonite, they did say it was being distributed like drugs.
Lara was on SMALLVILLE. She was played by Helen Slater
I think Anderson wants whatever thing is under the mine to take down Superman and then his team, wearing the crest the if the house of EL, will take it down. Kind of like Mysterio, cause and threat and stop it to replace he real hero.
Another amazing video
Before I press play, when I watched the episode and her reveal was that she kissed someone...not sure why but i burst out laughing, I get that it can be devistating for a teenager, but it was just funny with how serious it's taken.
It would be interesting if it was a Superman from another earth how became doomsday. It was done in the new 52 for a time so there’s a precedent for that version of Clark to exist. And it makes sense that he’s getting headaches and stuff, cause it’s him but not. Maybe the Superman from John Henry’s earth came through and someone transformed into doomsday because of the X kryptonite? We never saw what exactly happened to that Superman
What if when you wanted Clark to say something, he’d just said, “Hodor!”
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AARON!
its gotta be doomsday in his containment suit
My thoughts on who it could be,but who in the DCU would have cosmic powers that effects Superman it would be DOOMSDAY.
Noooo no come on it’s very obviously Optimums Prime I mean just look at the head lights…….
I was thinking Braniac.
Also, it could play into what they tackled in this episode. Kryptonians were genetically engineered, not born. The reason Superman is being affected and not Edge is because Superman is a natural birthed full Kryptonian, which is why Jodan isn't affected, because he's only half. Doomsday is the natural selection, as Doomsday is a genetically engineered monstrosity. He's the complete antithesis of Superman. Doomsday was created using every type of genetic material. The suit we see in the show looks similar to the suit Doomsday was chained up with in the comics when he was first discovered, albeit with the addition of lights. Doomsday could be introduced with killing the Super-Soldiers, which forces Anderson to rethink his whole mindset.
It's also possibly Bizarro, which would make it the second time we've ever seen him in live-action (The first one being in the Superman movies during Reeves' run).
@@joeywheeler9603 b r u h
I think maybe the visions Clark is having, is Doomsday locating the apex predator. I think Evil Superman from John’s earth sent him here to kill Superman and John, to make way for him. He probably lost his powers, and he will use X-Krypto to restore them. He is essentially taking the place of Darkseid in the animated movie.
Got to give Eric Credit for playing dumb on the subject in the mines.
Supes should bring both boys to meet their grandparents
I think the call at the end will be connected to the cult leader and them wanting to bring forth chaos and destruction. The school story I feel will be Jon due to feeling powerless will get involved in x-kryptonite floating around the black market. If it's on the black market it's likely being messed with & modified which could lead to dangerous side effects. I'd agree with you, the only relationship on the show I'm invested in is Lois & Clark's, the kids are 15, it would be unrealistic if they didn't swap & change & experiment.
Damn it Eric you got the Hakuna Matata song suck in my head
Doomsday and Clark are both kryptonian . Perhaps Jor-el created doomsday with zod to be the perfect soldier. Perhaps Doomsday is a clone of Jor-el that was mutated and manipulated by Zod.
What if Doomsday has been buried in that mine since 1979.
As for Sarah I thing she is just a teenager and maybe its just a thing that happened. It would be cliche to have her be bisexual. Her and Jordan dating is similar to Clark and Lana. And I'm sure a awkward moments will happen in future seasons. Leading interesting conversations with Lana and Clark.
I can see Lana becoming the mayor, I can see sarah causing some issues at some point.
And obviously evil superman will become the new bizarro
Didn't smallville have pa kent run for mayor ? Similar storyline?
c'mon, do they really not think that it could be Doomsday? i think it's pretty obvious by now and eric said he read a comic book when he was kid about this situation
eric knows. He don't want to spoil aaron
show runner confirmed it already
This show is great
I don't want to create angst but if she references that her sister was thrown off when supergirl stole her man's and that concluded with the thoughts she wanted to drown for can just be simply a callback.
Why would Clark leave all that X-kryptonite there? Why wouldn’t he dig it all up and take it, technically being a kryptonian, he has rights to it. He and Kara could come in and dig it all up
are we getting doomsday if so I am curious how he will look can't be worse than bvs
To be fair, BvS had him progressively get more comic-accurate as the fight went on. With each bit of damage, he grew more spikes each time he evolved, exactly like he did in the comics.
If I was Jordan I would be more pissed of that you forgot about me. You knew we had something planned you forgot about it??? If the camp thing didn’t really mean anything than why push me away.
That’s would be the thing that would pissed me off more than anything
damn sephiroth hitting different now
Kara and Kal had different mothers.
And different fathers. They're cousins, not siblings.
It seemed like they were suggesting that they should be the same.
Doing the boy Jordan dirty smh
I have feeling that they're gonna start doing jonathan dirty again, I think he's gonna get hooked on the drug that all of the enhanced people are taking whilst getting in a weight lifting competition with that dude from his school or he's gonna uncover that the dude at his school doesn't actually have natural farm boy strength and instead is using the drug himself and expose him for it.
@@Nemisis007 Too bad CW keep getting predictable and reusing plot points. I hope it’s executed well and not just another pointless drama to teach a lesson. I have hopes for only this show.
Lara Jor-El
Alura Zor-El
I don't think we saw Jor-El or Lara on Supergirl.
Perhaps person on the phone at the end was a certain bald guy, with initials LL
Genetic kryptonians will attack doomsday first, probably get killed, superman will give his life defeating doomsday making everyone realize why he can't just give allegiance to one country because of entire planet threats. Also doomsday is a kryptonian weapon which is why kal el seems to have a connection to him. (Insert He-Man meme)....I'll be back with more interesting information
Eric know what is coming
Things don’t just happen.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
I know what it is but how sick would it be if it’s like bizzaro
If that is indeed Doomsday, I'm gonna lose my mind.
If that minerologist is actually Amanda Waller well....
arrowverse waller died in Arrow didn't she?
@@Doco160 they could use the 'crisis' line
@@Doco160 yes
Does anybody know if they will do reactions for Naomi? Thanks 👍
Sarah will hook up with Jordans sister, calling that now
omg the cringe
I am hoping the monster is Cyborg Superman from New Earth.
we know the real answer but with the psychic link evil superman would have made more sense. the irons wouldn't have the same problem because their versions in this reality are dead.
John Cryer's not doing anything right now it's Lex.
Eric tell him
There is a bit of soap opera story whiplash... there's too many dramas to focus. Kryptonian, Kent/Lane, Kent/Lang, Henry/Lane, Superman/DoD, and Lang for Mayor... it's a lot of fibers to inject another drama of a monster supervillain clawing out from a cave. I hope it doesn't overwhelm casual watchers.
i like sarah being bi
I kinda do too, people are acting like this is the end of the world with this character revelation lol, I mean it happens IRL, so it isn't impossible.
@@newt1110 they can get mad because sarah cheated on jordan but not because of their sexual orientation, they take it very seriously when something comes out about the lgbt community
CW red flags everywhere in this episode.
CW can't help themselves but add, UNNEEDED (not that kind of show), drama into their storylines.
We spent 2 episodes just getting Lana to do, what we KNEW she would/should do! Run for mayor herself.
At first I liked the idea of John and Nat sticking in Smallville (There could be a nice duality storyline about accepting half-siblings, with Kal and his brother, and the boys and Nat.)...but now I dread the storylines that may be coming.
They are going to have Lois and John kiss, and make me HATE Lois (Those two better social distance when they "kill" Kal).
Lois telling her "partner" their secret, without talking to her family first, will also make me hate her.
I kissed a girl and liked it Sarah is going to fall for Nat (who will be bi or gay (because CW straight girls can't fix cars)), causing issues with Jordan.
Please god, let me be wrong, and keep CW's horrible relationship writing from killing this show.
A lot of these weren't red flags but stuff you created as possible stuff they probably won't even do. But I don't think anyone "knew" Lana would run for mayor or that it was an obvious thing because there was already someone good who was running until this episode since the former one interfered somehow
@@megatronusorionpax4900 That somebody good, was only “good” because Lana backed him.
And yes “red flags” are just possible problems. As my post was praying that it doesn’t happen.
I got the feeling that they will make Sarah and Nat a thing too. Kinda worried with what will happen in the next episodes
Someday my people will be free from coming out storylines... especially ones involving cheating. Jordan's response was promising tho so 🤷♀️
It’s most likely Doomsday that’s down there
Naomi?
Doomsday. What else could it be.
Doomsday!!
Could be Rogal Zaal
@@theironfox2756 good call
I haven't seen beyond this but I'm betting they're setting Natalie and Jordan's girlfriend up to be a couple.
Might be lex
It has to be doomsday
Cata means down back or against. Thesis is put, place, position.
Gotta be Doomsday….
I think it's doomsday
I’m surprised how fast Natalie got over “Superman” killing her mom…it took John months 2 realize he isn’t the same person
It’s because she has her dad with her to put her straight and remind her that he isn’t the same person otherwise it would have taken her just as long as it took her dad when he was alone having to come to terms with superman not being the same person
@@Remychels true i still wouldn’t have gotten over it that fast lol…especially Living with him
Yeah, I expected Natalie to have more of a reaction to being around Clark. Even though she knows he's not the same person, I thought there'd still be an emotional response and instinctive fear of the doppelganger of the guy who murdered her mother and burned down the world
@@breezy3392 exactly
It would be cool if it’s brainiac that took over doomsday
Natalie and Sara gonna date. Poor Jordan.
That would be such a low blow considering he’s the one that introduced them but yea they are lol
@@tylerwelty9847 The writers said there wouldn't be any love triangles between the Kent boys and their "sister."
@@unknownsword9042 this wasn’t between them lol this is between nat Sarah and Jordan
@@tylerwelty9847 Exactly, causing a love triangle which has two siblings..... The writers said there would be no such triangles.
@@unknownsword9042 they aren’t siblings though
Lois is gonna have a affair I'm 100% sure now......
I’m so glad that they didn’t go with Jordan being okay with her kissing a girl because were lesbian and your suppose to be okay with it. It’s not okay she was With Jordan and he had every right to be upset. So props to them
And then they ruined it by making her the victim the next ep. I hate that bit*h sm and also lana for actually supporting her cheating.
@@johnsummit101 Thanks for spoiling the episode dick. Haven't seen it yet.
@@johnnyfive4436 well didn't know if you did. Oh well🤷♂️
Are you guys going to react to Naomi?
Is it good ?
they mentioned before that they're not sure. If a big chunk of the community wants it they'll probably give it a shot
@@FailingIsUnderrated I quit watching half way through the pilot….
@@MarisuSedai | same lol, I usually watch the first 3 episodes of a show before having an opinion on it but Naomi just wasn't doing it for me.
@@Nemisis007 Its very slow burn indeed, I might check it out again when the whole season is out
LOBO
Eric’s trippin. They were absolutely dating for real.
Jordan is the crybaby crying over a kiss, hardly dating if that caused an overreaction, he’s with her purely off emotion, he even tried to kiss her when they just met
@@TheTruth-13 No offense but do you hear the words coming out of your mouth? You’re saying it’s ok to kiss someone else when you’re dating someone? And it’s Jordan’s fault for being mad about it? You’re the one trippin.