Reminds me of Debra’s comments about the Barone antics after Jeffrey presented his book “The Angry Family” th-cam.com/video/dp4u3zHabJg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nuTsazFclaRpfwEA
This is the one with Debra's rebellion. I like how in the end Marie apologizes then her and Amy hug. After that she gives Debra a look like "nice try."
Debra in the following scene about Marie Hey, listen, that is exactly what she is waiting for. For you to go over there and say you'll write those thank-you notes. You have got to be strong. She is testing you. Trust me, what she just pulled here, that's her big weapon - the guilt bomb. And it doesn't help that all the men in her family are scared to death of her. Whenever she comes up against somebody with a backbone who might actually confront her, she's completely threatened and she gets her claws out. And so she has been allowed to rule this way, unopposed, for decades. Listen Amy, I have been waiting for you. This is a critical time. Even though this is a tough regime to topple, with you in the family, now we have a shot. You and me together, to end all the suffering. Do you hear me? We can do it!
@@wesker100000000 I would not called that scared. I would say it is more like enabling bad behavior. That she has gotten away with it for so long, nobody is willing to deal with the bullshit that would come by standing up to her.
They literally moved across the street for her help and when she wasn’t of use anymore they wanted her to stop coming over as much bit it was an established norm at that point. Overbearing and invasive yes but she was also used
Ray and Robert are so frightened of Marie it’s sad and somewhat hilarious. And I admire Amy for taking a stand against Marie, it sucks that she gave in afterwards.
The 'thank you note' thing. It never ends. And then you have kids and you're expected to write thank you notes every time someone gives them a gift, even though you have profusely thanked them in person, from birth, christening, birthdays ...for the rest of your child's life.
If everyone thinks this is bad wait until the end of the episode. Spoiler - Marie only wanted Amy to send a thank you note to Lee & Stan because she recommended the gift to them. So she just wanted to prove to her friends she was right.
This scene is another example of how narcissistic Marie is. She kept forcing Amy to write thank you notes, and Amy kept telling her that she just got back from her honeymoon with Robert, and she'll get to it later. It's so obvious that that was all Marie cared about: thank you notes. I liked how Amy handled Marie in this scene; Amy stood up for herself against Marie's narcissism
I don't think it was about the thank you notes, it was a clear aplha animal power play. And she won in the end of the episode and both Debra and Amy went back to their place.
To add on to Zodroo's point - Marie made such a big deal about the thank you notes, because she only really wanted Amy to send the one to Lee. And that was because Marie actually picked out the gift for Lee to give Amy and Robert. Marie wielded power that went beyond just Amy and Debra. Personally, I find it funny, but that's just because it's a TV show. In real life, that'd be terrible.
I did my thank you notes the day after the wedding. We married on a Sunday and left Wednesday for our honeymoon. I had my side of the family's thank you notes done by Tuesday night. But my husband kept delaying his for weeks.....and then months..... Finally, I wrote the ones for his side out of fear that someone from his side would run into someone from my side and realize that only half the guests got the notes (which were personalized and handwritten.)
@@leahartlee29 Yes, we should have. But he wasn't going to cooperate. If I'd waited for him to write them, they never would have gotten done at all. I had the same problem when my Mom died. Her husband (who was the executor of her estate) had no interest in writing the notes. So I had formal thank you cards printed out from my computer and then added some personal comments.
It’s amazing how nice Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle were in real life. They were both such great actors . I’m sure the other players in the show learned a lot
when i was a teen watching this i always thought stuff like this was hilarious as an adult, i still find it hilarious, but damn have i met so many people like Marie but on a worse scale lol
I had a mother in law like marie. She hated me because i didn't tolerate her behavior and did things in my own time. It led to many hilarious situations. Mostly i found them funny.
This video didn't show the entire episode. I remember Marie taking off the pin Amy gave her and giving it back to her just because Amy wasn't going to send thank you notes that very second for her wedding gifts. At times Marie acts way too immature!!
it looks like they just woke up and 4 people are in their kitchen making noise, and when Ray says hi twice his mom tells him how rude he is. thats whats wrong
It's from a bit at the opening of the episode. Robert and Amy come back from their honeymoon all happy and fresh faced so they made Ray and Debra extra rough to juxtapose lol.
Odd. Those curtains like someone at Tulane Rd Hummelstown Pa. Also, I received wedding gifts from a few people I didn't even know. Go. Ask Alice, right?
My Mil is like this. She retired to her country. But keeps coming back. And expect a Big welcome. She stays for a month and makes everyone drive her around. She keeps the family hostage until she leaves. Then Three months later she is back. I haven't been available to be with her because of a new job. She told me. we will divorce soon because I'm not there for my family.
They literally moved across the street for her help and when she wasn’t of use anymore they wanted her to stop coming over as much bit it was an established norm at that point. Overbearing and invasive yes but she was also used
It was stupid but the real reason why it was such a big deal was Marie picked it out and had convinced her friend Lee to give it has a wedding gift to Robert and Amy; Lee questioned Marie’s taste so Marie wanted Amy to write an elaborate thank you asap which she did btw proving she was right and had good taste
"Marie.... Let's get this out of the way quickly. I am going to be perpetually and hugely disappointing to you, and subsequently your friends. Get used to it. Unlike Debra, I don't care what you think, and I will never make even the smallest effort to change for your satisfaction."
I don't think Debra particularly cared, she just was bombarded with Marie nearly everyday. Ray was the one who cared and aided Marie every time there was a conflict
@@dannytallmage2971 The concept of a boundary didn't exist to Marie. So, whether Debra had a job (fairly certain she did before she and Ray got together) or not, Marie would act the same way. Marie was clearly the better homemaker, and she did care about others, but her intrusiveness was about more than 'keeping Debra in line'.
I think you missed the point of the show, Raymond is tamed by two women with all their passive aggressiveness and manipulation. That's what makes it sad and funny.
This is when Amy realizes she married into a psycho circus. 😂
The Flying Faux Pas!😂😂
Debra: you married into the Manson family, and Charlie goes off sometimes.
Reminds me of Debra’s comments about the Barone antics after Jeffrey presented his book “The Angry Family”
th-cam.com/video/dp4u3zHabJg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nuTsazFclaRpfwEA
No, just into a typical old-fashioned Italian Family.
@@Mav_F NO most of us aren't psychotic like marie
I loved how Ray and Debra just stood there waiting in horror,disbelief, amusement...to see where it'd end😁😁😁
And Robert doing the same…only without the amusement
I think they were happy to have the heat taken off them for once
“Thank you for my shrapnel” I died ! 😂😂😂
Frank’s note is hysterical 😂
All Frank had to hear is WWII 😂
I love Ray & Debra standing by silently and just letting the horribleness of the situation unravel
The condescension, passive agressiveness and guilt trip is strong with this one 😅
Why are you analyzing everything? Can you just let us enjoy it without the scathing commentary!’
I had a mil just like Marie. It's pure hell. 😂❤
Marie is my mother.
@@katierojas8066 😬
@@momD612 laughing to keep from crying?
"Open the bag."
😂😂😂
Yup😂😂 seeing people aren't gifts, gifts are gifts. Open them🤣
Thank you for my shrapnel 😂
This is the one with Debra's rebellion. I like how in the end Marie apologizes then her and Amy hug. After that she gives Debra a look like "nice try."
The only time she had the chance.
Debra in the following scene about Marie
Hey, listen, that is exactly what she is waiting for. For you to go over there and say you'll write those thank-you notes. You have got to be strong. She is testing you. Trust me, what she just pulled here, that's her big weapon - the guilt bomb. And it doesn't help that all the men in her family are scared to death of her. Whenever she comes up against somebody with a backbone who might actually confront her, she's completely threatened and she gets her claws out. And so she has been allowed to rule this way, unopposed, for decades. Listen Amy, I have been waiting for you. This is a critical time. Even though this is a tough regime to topple, with you in the family, now we have a shot. You and me together, to end all the suffering. Do you hear me? We can do it!
That episode was simply awesome!
Loved that whole “speech!”
Debra should have trained her from the start. She understimated the enemy.
😢😢😢
I do not understand why anyone cannot stand up to Marie. It seems nobody has a backbone.
She punishes in a multitude of ways, withdrawing of affection and worse, food!
@@glendathegoodwitch6987 And that is how she gets her way but someone should be able to stand up to her.
Her sons were grew up with her so they have no chance, Frank gave up long time ago and Debra is weak alone.
Everybody's scared of marie, maybe that should've been the real title.
@@wesker100000000 I would not called that scared. I would say it is more like enabling bad behavior. That she has gotten away with it for so long, nobody is willing to deal with the bullshit that would come by standing up to her.
I love how they LOVE the gifts and then find reasons not to lol
Expressing gratitude shows character and the recipient feels good, knowing that their gesture was appreciated.
One of my fave episodes
Show of hands if you would not want a mother/mother-in-law like Marie ✋
Unfortunately I have one 😆
You better believe it. Can't stand her
They literally moved across the street for her help and when she wasn’t of use anymore they wanted her to stop coming over as much bit it was an established norm at that point.
Overbearing and invasive yes but she was also used
Hell no to me! ✋😂 I don’t want to have a crazy, narcissistic mother-in-law like Marie!
I have a grandma like this. BRING IT ON!
Ray and Robert are so frightened of Marie it’s sad and somewhat hilarious.
And I admire Amy for taking a stand against Marie, it sucks that she gave in afterwards.
One of the many great episodes, classic disfunction!!
Robbies hommmme!!!
The 'thank you note' thing. It never ends. And then you have kids and you're expected to write thank you notes every time someone gives them a gift, even though you have profusely thanked them in person, from birth, christening, birthdays ...for the rest of your child's life.
Get over it and have more class. It’s called growing up.
If everyone thinks this is bad wait until the end of the episode. Spoiler - Marie only wanted Amy to send a thank you note to Lee & Stan because she recommended the gift to them. So she just wanted to prove to her friends she was right.
This scene is another example of how narcissistic Marie is. She kept forcing Amy to write thank you notes, and Amy kept telling her that she just got back from her honeymoon with Robert, and she'll get to it later. It's so obvious that that was all Marie cared about: thank you notes. I liked how Amy handled Marie in this scene; Amy stood up for herself against Marie's narcissism
Fortunately, the people are just actors following a script and reciting their lines.
I don't think it was about the thank you notes, it was a clear aplha animal power play. And she won in the end of the episode and both Debra and Amy went back to their place.
To add on to Zodroo's point - Marie made such a big deal about the thank you notes, because she only really wanted Amy to send the one to Lee. And that was because Marie actually picked out the gift for Lee to give Amy and Robert. Marie wielded power that went beyond just Amy and Debra.
Personally, I find it funny, but that's just because it's a TV show. In real life, that'd be terrible.
😢😢😢
@@robertperry4439😂😂😂
I love Marie!! Just love her!!!❤
I did my thank you notes the day after the wedding. We married on a Sunday and left Wednesday for our honeymoon. I had my side of the family's thank you notes done by Tuesday night. But my husband kept delaying his for weeks.....and then months..... Finally, I wrote the ones for his side out of fear that someone from his side would run into someone from my side and realize that only half the guests got the notes (which were personalized and handwritten.)
Your big mistake was entrusting a man to do it on his own in the first place!! You should have written them TOGETHER.
@@leahartlee29 Yes, we should have. But he wasn't going to cooperate. If I'd waited for him to write them, they never would have gotten done at all. I had the same problem when my Mom died. Her husband (who was the executor of her estate) had no interest in writing the notes. So I had formal thank you cards printed out from my computer and then added some personal comments.
2:51 Ray is thinking “THERE it is”
Imagine if amy decided to roast the gift. Marie would be maaaddddd.
“You’ve been back a day and a half…” 😂
It’s amazing how nice Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle were in real life. They were both such great actors . I’m sure the other players in the show learned a lot
when i was a teen watching this i always thought stuff like this was hilarious
as an adult, i still find it hilarious, but damn have i met so many people like Marie but on a worse scale lol
I present to you my Italian American Aunt Carol!! JUST like Marie, her family lives in fear. LOL!!
True! I used to find it funny until I met my toxic mother in law who is much worse, so I find hard laugh at this anymore
Which moment does marie switch back to marie.. 😂😅😂😅😂😅
Think it's after the full moon of the 3rd month isn't it?.
Frank is too much 😂
You should get some more episodes from Seasons 8 & 9. I'm thinking "The Contractor" and "Peter On The Couch".
I thought Franj was going to say something sarcastic when Marie said "a hundred years old." 😂
LOL.
She scared the crap out of the mail man
Actually Frank does stand up to her
Marie was dissapointed there was no plane crash. Genius
I'm still watching!
I had a mother in law like marie. She hated me because i didn't tolerate her behavior and did things in my own time. It led to many hilarious situations. Mostly i found them funny.
Ray can't stand his mother, but he really can't stand that he's not getting the attention.
Frank, what do you think 100 yrs old? 😂
This video didn't show the entire episode. I remember Marie taking off the pin Amy gave her and giving it back to her just because Amy wasn't going to send thank you notes that very second for her wedding gifts. At times Marie acts way too immature!!
Amy: “Can I be honest with you Marie?”
Debra: “Uh oh”
She knew it was about to hit the fan.
Raymond and Debra looks miserable. What’s wrong with them?
Roles have reversed. 😅
it looks like they just woke up and 4 people are in their kitchen making noise, and when Ray says hi twice his mom tells him how rude he is. thats whats wrong
@@JungleCrookexactly. I would have chased them out my house
I tend to look at it as "Experience." 😂😅😉
It's from a bit at the opening of the episode. Robert and Amy come back from their honeymoon all happy and fresh faced so they made Ray and Debra extra rough to juxtapose lol.
People ... meaning her.
I wish the men would actually stand up to the mother instead of making their wives do it all the time.
Better yet they should boss their wives around and not rely on their mothers making their wives behave.
They have stood up to her countless times
They have stood up to her countless times
Odd. Those curtains like someone at Tulane Rd Hummelstown Pa.
Also, I received wedding gifts from a few people I didn't even know. Go. Ask Alice, right?
"When She's Ten Feet Tall!" Sorry couldn't resist.😂😏🎤💃🐇✈🎼🎵🎶🎸🥁B.W.
My dad is rarely nice to mom. He wonders why he threatens divorce
Never understood why Amy said she would cherish this candle that they don't care/like the gift like it's the end of the world or life as we know it
My Mil is like this. She retired to her country. But keeps coming back. And expect a Big welcome. She stays for a month and makes everyone drive her around. She keeps the family hostage until she leaves. Then Three months later she is back. I haven't been available to be with her because of a new job. She told me. we will divorce soon because I'm not there for my family.
This was my mother in law all over
They literally moved across the street for her help and when she wasn’t of use anymore they wanted her to stop coming over as much bit it was an established norm at that point.
Overbearing and invasive yes but she was also used
So im wondering about the candle gift. It makes no sense. Its a crystal holder with a candle that shows you the invitation from the back??? What?
It was stupid but the real reason why it was such a big deal was Marie picked it out and had convinced her friend Lee to give it has a wedding gift to Robert and Amy; Lee questioned Marie’s taste so Marie wanted Amy to write an elaborate thank you asap which she did btw proving she was right and had good taste
Why is a candle worth the drama that don't care or like
Marie was crazy annoying this episode lol
"Marie.... Let's get this out of the way quickly. I am going to be perpetually and hugely disappointing to you, and subsequently your friends. Get used to it. Unlike Debra, I don't care what you think, and I will never make even the smallest effort to change for your satisfaction."
I don't think Debra particularly cared, she just was bombarded with Marie nearly everyday. Ray was the one who cared and aided Marie every time there was a conflict
@@Joe_ParmesanDebra worked all of one day in her entire life. She needed someone keeping her in line.
@@dannytallmage2971 The concept of a boundary didn't exist to Marie. So, whether Debra had a job (fairly certain she did before she and Ray got together) or not, Marie would act the same way.
Marie was clearly the better homemaker, and she did care about others, but her intrusiveness was about more than 'keeping Debra in line'.
Not sure why Debra was looking offended?
this lady is so scary god help us all this was just a sitcom
poor debra
Now I get how ppl kill family members🤦🏾♂️
They could have went back to bed
I can't stand Marie.
Everyone was funny on that show EXCEPT Raymond.
I think you missed the point of the show, Raymond is tamed by two women with all their passive aggressiveness and manipulation. That's what makes it sad and funny.
Funny or not. Everybody loves him. Lol😅
I don’t believe in thank you notes I told them thanks for coming
Marie was right
She was not, watch the whole show! :)
thank you notes go out 3months after wedding.
Marie didn't actually care about anything except the one specific note to Lee (and Stan), only because it would reflect positively on herself
Marie was my Nana and mom. RIp to all 3 of them
I agree you should get to it soon after but pressing it on day 1.5 of them being home is nuts.
Make the thank you notes stop 🛑
No one wants them
Marie is so damn annoying
That lady was the biggest pain on tv.. could not stand her
Say what you want about Marie. I LOVE HER!!!