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- Rivian R2 vs Tesla Model Y - Which do I buy and why?
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R2 boxy rear shape alone makes it a potential large Costco hauler.
THIS 1000%
Maybe a whole pallet?
$45,000 grocery storage 💀
Just get a EV9
ev9 is gargantuan to the point its unncessary unless you need to use all 3 rows a lot of the time@@JonathanRootD
Unbelievable I was waiting for the refresh model Y now I’m waiting for the Rivian
same here😂
Same
It’s a no brainer. You get free off road capabilities for free. Plus many others
Refreshed Y will be technically superior but I like my crossovers to look like SUVs lol.
With stagnant sales and losing a large amount of money, Rivian needs to get to scale quick, with a cheaper SUV like the R2. And It's at least 3 yrs away. Rivian doesn't have the cash, and unless they can raise cash on the market, or have Amazon or Apple buy them, they may not be around in 3 yrs.
I love and have reserved the R2 (and like the R3). I don't love the 2 year wait and the inevitable price increases.
u should thank god bro if u drive this car in 2026 lol, i bet it will be ¨full production¨ before 2030
Ummmmmm …..will this even matter 2 years from now…when it comes out 😂😂😂
When Rivian bumped up the R1T/S prices, they ended up honoring the original price for those of us who had reservations, so if you have your place in line, I would assume that price is locked in for you, as well.
@devenscience8894 even when the price for the r2 is "estimated"?? Sounds like they don't lock down the prices just yet
@@senoow4215 valid point. I guess time will time on that one.
RIVIAN all the way
Based on what?
200%
NOPE! It’s about the support network…where is rivian in 3 years…still losing money. Crash and burn!
World of hurt 🤮
@@freddybell8328Based on wanting to drive anything but another Tesla.
The Rivian is the easy choice if it keeps the price and turns out to be reliable. The main thing the Y has going for it is price and practicality. And it exists.
Yeah, I can’t imagine the R2 actually keeping the advertised starting price. Rivian already has a history of increasing prices before delivery, and the R2 reservation terms have a clause that allows them to change the price.
That being said, I did reserve the R2 anyway, and if it does in fact keep the price at 45k (as well as gets the full $7500 tax credit) I think it has a real shot to be a good competitor to the Model Y. We’ll just have to see what happens for the next 2 years. I’d choose the Rivian over the Model Y any day at the same price.
Rivian increased the prices because they started deliveries in a high inflation env before. So did tesla increase the prices aswell. @@frescosmalls
That's awesome!
How about the New Tesla Innovation shares?
Do you have any?
Model Y Performance owner here. I like the MY, it’s stupid fast and haven’t had any major issues (mostly just stupid cosmetic) it has served me well for the past 3 years. I put a reservation on the R2 and I’m excited for it.
Same boat. Will lease one 100% when it's out. Will be perfect timing for the end of my model Y lease (which I actually love too... but would love something more adventure capable)
How was your maintenance like for the last 3 years ? And how many miles have you put on the car? I’m thinking about getting an EV too, my BMW is way too much maintenance
That's awesome!
How about the New Tesla Innovation shares?
Do you have any?
@@skoolboi_L haven’t touched the brake pads. Still look like there’s a lot of life left as well. I have 40k miles on it.
The only real maintenance has been wipers, windshield washer fluid, cabin filter and coming up on tires. That’s about it. And the filter and wipers are not es expensive as getting them from bmw. I had one years ago and it was stupid how much they charge u for things.
Careful, chances are they will label you as a "fan boy". It's hard to convince people when they are just looking at it through a screen as opposed to actually driving one. People are afraid of changes thats just human nature. Avg folks just accept things as they come, never ask questions. Never asked what is so good of a product that makes Musk the wealthiest person within 20 yrs as opposed to other automakers and their CEO?
model 3 owner here. I reserved a R2. Not sure why tesla isn't making a similar style vehicle. the cyber truck is idiotic. they should've made it more accessible and reuse the platform for a SUV and a Van.
R2 looks great. I will try to save next 2 years to get one.
I'm buying the Rivian R2.
That's awesome!
How about the New Tesla Innovation shares?
Do you have any?
Hopefully, They will still be in business for the next year.
@@akennedystocks Indeed.
Rivian for a plethora of reasons.
Elaborate
@@Rapido20 no
@ab185 you don't have to give your reasons? LOL?
@@gerardomeza8451 correct
@@ab185
Cringe
Not even close, the R2 is fucking gorgeous (the R3 even more so) and the Y might as well be a Camry these days.
Is that a bad thing tho
@@mcsike7264 yes very much
@@mcsike7264i don’t think the old style model 3 and y looked good at all. But the new versions look great. So it’s going to be stuff competition.
Except camrys look better
Nothing is wrong with the Camry comparison. Pick tried and true over look anytime.
R2, no contest, but that R3X looks sweet.
Rivian R-2 for sure
That's awesome!
How about the New Tesla Innovation shares?
Do you have any?
I love Rivian they should have had the R3 ready for orders. That’s the car people want
Based on the super high quality build and ride of the R1T (R1S) I’m betting the R2 is going to be beautifully thought out and crafted. Their customer service is also, second to none, I have first hand experience and am basing my comments on having owned a R1T for 4 months now and before that a Model X for 4 years.
Their customer service has been incredible. I'm very happy with how they've taken care of me and my wife.
R2 . Such a cutie
Bruh...taking your man card from you
@@DJ_BROBOT fair. 🤣🤣🤣
That's awesome!
How about the New Tesla Innovation shares?
Do you have any?
R2 duh, no competition
Getting the Rivian, no contest
Honestly, until the car is widely available, we won't know for sure what the price and experience will be. Until then we are just comparing a known commodity to whatever our imagination dreams up
That Rivian looks good!
The R2 1000%. i love the look of it and the functionality. its shape and design make it very formidable opposition to any other Electric car company out there. i hope the R2 has a great range. if i were buying a new electric car it would 1000% be the R3. (not the performance model) and hope i get 350 miles of range. my current ford escape gets 365 miles to the tank. so that is pretty impressive.
The Rivian looks Land-rover inspired. Very much a country vehicle
I go for Rivian for sure
I have a R2 reservation, but my current car is not going to last long enough, so I think I’m going to get a Model Y for now.😅
u do know Tesla is at the bottom 20% on almost all quality indexes?? there are many other options, esp if u can pay a little bit more or just lease it
You can buy Tesla, it will last till the Rivian's launch :D
Wait for the Model Y 2025 refresh
@@senoow4215you’re so clueless lol
Is your car on the verge of breaking? lol what’s wrong with it that it can’t be maintained for a couple years to wait for the R2. Seems like less of a hassle than getting into a model y then the Rivian haha.
Awesome review. Nice job
I own a Tesla M3LR and just reserved a Rivian R2. Seems really cool and will have the NACS.
R2 looks sick
I love your videos! Could you maybe do one comparing the size of a Chevy Tahoe to the Rivian R1S? I have not been able to find any pictures online or seen any side by side in person.
Based solely on design, Rivian R2 has it hands down. Still Tesla Model Y is more mature and reliable in terms of platform, software, safety, driving assistance technology, and features (e.g., hepa filter/bioweapon defense mode, camp mode). Repair shops and aftermarket accessories are much more accessible for the Model Y as well. Rivian R2 would be my choice as a rental for a camping road trip, but for a daily driver I'd have to go with the Model Y. I'm actually waiting for the refreshed Model Y, which is the vehicle the Rivian R2 will be competing with when it comes out in 2026.
Just hold on for the Model Y refresh. It's gonna be Tesla's iPhone moment. They're gonna step up at least 50 things from the current Model Y, and that thing's gonna sell like crazy.
Like what?
Agreed! air suspension, better ground clearance, 4 wheel steering, vented seats, steer by wire, faster charging, more range, more power, better service, better FSD, better sound system, etc.
Sounds like a minor spec bump and not at all reminiscent of the iPhone.
Literally gonna be the same thing with a tweak or two. Same boring inside design lol. R2 is way more bang for your buck and practical.
@@Jethr001 What makes you think it's getting air suspension and steer by wire? It'll probably get the same type of upgrades as the Model 3. Recalibrated spring and struts and better sound insulation along with tech improvements.
Reserved one. As a current owner of model 3, I hope Driver+ improves by the time I purchase the R2.
Just got my Model Y. WHY... cause of the price, it was $45K out the door and then we have $11K in MA to deduct. Everything said and done, taxes and all fees... total cost... $39,326.25 for a long range model Y.
Also, the Model Y has been revised at least two times (most say four times). Just this year there has been a bunch of things that Tesla has done... specifically, the hepa filter, thicker glass and more carpet everywhere, faster CPU. I feel the model Y is a much more mature EV.
The EV is for my wife but I am surprised how much I like it.
I wanted any EV but a Tesla but there was no competition that also got the $11K off the price.
Both are great cars, My preference is the R2 ,do to extra space in back and design . I Don’t need third row as well. It’s nice when you have to make a decision on two great SUV’s Either one is a good choice depending on your needs and preferences
3rd row is an option on a Y
So this one is easy. You can actually buy a Tesla Model Y. Rivian R2 might come in 2 years and we don’t know how exactly it will be by then and for that fact what Model Y will be. But with that said I hope R2 will be a great success. To me they are what Range Rover should be. Looking forward to see them in Europe
The charge port location on the R2 well make it practically impossible to use at moderately busy superchargers
@@jovi9918New superchargers have much longer cords
Tesla just updated model 3, not really much there, the body not changed much, look dated, don't expect much from Model Y consider this year don't look so bright for Tesla
@@jovi9918 here in Europe Tesla opened up their Superchargers a while ago for all EV,s. It was some problems in the beginning but manly it works just fine now. Now they have Longer cables and a slightly different placement of the chargers for the new locations.
I'm not gonna lie - Tesla's Supercharging is a big deal, and it's reason enough to opt for a Tesla. But since the R2 will be supporting NACS by default and starts at $45K, it's an easy choice to make. I already reserved my R2.
However, it's the R3X I ultimately want. Too bad they're not releasing it until after the R2, which is still 2 years away. Looks like it's going to be the Ioniq 5 N, for now.
it will take up two charging spots since plug is on the wrong side. Tesla should ban them
@@SyncETodthey moved the port to the back passenger side for R2. Check out the highlights of the model reveal.
But then, the Model Y refresh is incredibly likely to be out before the R2 launches, so the interior very likely to be upgraded as well as the performance. I do wish that the Y was more capable off road, but hard to argue with top selling car in the world.
I have an outdoor laser tag business. I wanted a model Y but if the Rivian gets right hand drive then that will probably be the better option
Will Rivian company be around next year?
Where do I get the shirt you’re wearing? It’s awesome.
As someone who’s looking at the Model Y but will likely wait for the refresh (next year), I have to admit the R2 has my attention. The only problem being 2026. If they could find a way to deliver these a year earlier in 2025, I think they can stir up some trouble. Will be a hit either way!
Nice looking vehicle.
Any word on heated steering wheel, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, 360° camera system, front and rear parking sensors, autonomous driving or app control?
so how much can it tow ?
Rivian is a sweet car. Would only get that car over a Tesla if price was equal but the Cybertruck kept me with Tesla
I reserved my place in line and I plan to go to Nashville Rivian to test drive so I get a feel of the brand.
What is the coefficient of drag for each? Y has to be much lower.
MY LR and M3 LR owner here. Made a deposit for R2 during reveal presentation. Cannot wait! My daughter, on the other hand, would love R3 for sure! She thought R1 was really fire, but too big for young people.
i wonder does that mean no rear wiper like the ioniq 5? I don't want another car i can't see out the back of.
Agreed! That's why I put in my reservation for an R2. Just hate the wait. I suppose a part of me is hoping Rivian can surprise us with an earlier delivery...under promise, over deliver type philosophy. I mean, they kind of did that with the R3 surprise!
It's a competitor in online polls, but not a competitor for people actually buying until they come close to Tesla service center footprint.
I personally like Rivian design better as a Tesla owner and want them to succeed.
Love it I am definitely buying it I can afford one by the time it launches
Efficiency isn't putting in a bigger battery. It also could be a Landrover Discovery. Not sure what the NCAP pedestrian rating will be in Europe.
When will this R2 become available in Europe/Netherlands? And could we make a reservation for it as a European?
I would never consider a model Y, but I reserved the R2. I think if Rivian makes it to r2, it’ll make it to r3 which is what I’m really after
R2 for sure beautiful!!!
Great video. I’m a Tesla fanboy but I do prefer the Rivian and I also had a MYP
I have a Model Y…. And I put myself on the R2 list as soon as I could.
Love the R2. Just put a deposit down myself!
No matter how many times people call the Model Y an SUV it will always be a wagon or even a minivan. It’s barely a crossover with its ride height. And the Model X is a minivan.
Honestly although I like the rivian styling better, I’m a performance junkie and I’m sure the Tesla Y performance is faster so I go with TESLA!
The R3X really has my interest... and then I look at the calendar! 😧
Me too, I will go with the Rivian r2!
Is the R2 going to truly compete with the Model Y on price? I picked up a '24 Model Y dual motor for $41.5K last week.
How do you like it man ?
R2 looks way better than the Y, but if I were buying an ev I would wait for the R3
As a Rivian R1S adventure, package owner I would say Tesla is going to have to really start reinventing it design strategy.
Tesla seems to have had a marketing strategy of having some thing that was technologically, innovative, and offered some that the competitors didn’t. That was in a market that was filled with combustion cars. Tesla was like the eccentric uncle and a family gathering with car manufacturers.
Now the tables have changed with Rivian. Rivian offers almost as much as Tesla does technology wise. There’s limitations on apps like there’s no TH-cam and things like that in the car. There’s no self driving. Rather, it’s like an assisted self driving. But I don’t know how much I would trust a full self driving car anyway.
Now Rivian comes and what they offer is basically everything you could get with a Tesla. But more room, luxury, and durability than Tesla.
I often compare the build quality of the Rivian R1S to a 1970s Cadillac. Only much more advanced. Whenever I ride around in a Tesla model, three the seats are so uncomfortable. It feels like you’re driving lawn furniture or something. While you’re driving a Rivian, you can probably say this was made in America. All of it the parts manufacturing all of it. American built quality.
With a Tesla it’s like it was made in China mostly. When you drive both Rivian’s and Teslas, you can feel the difference of where it’s from.
When you drive the Rivian R1S you feel like Superman.
When you drive a Tesla, if you feel a little bit like Doc back to the future. After driving it for about five hours and then taking back, you kind of walk like him too.
Good video but I think we would need to compare the Rivian R2 to the Tesla model Y that will be coming out later. Perhaps they’ll also have a refreshed interior that is more on par with Rivian’s
Reserve the R2--- in around 24 months will be ready--- in meantime, pickup an inventory dual motor Y for 38k new🎉
It’s more than two years away before launch and maybe 3 yrs before you can actually get your hand on the R3, so you can only buy the MY.
I’m a big fan of tesla design, I have a Model 3 and Model Y in our garage, but I definitely want to see Rivian succeed. Their products have great design language and some fantastic design cohesion and use of space inside.
Maybe one day Tesla and Rivian will become the Ford/Chevy rivalry of the 21st century.
I’m not a fan of SUVs, I prefer cars and wagons, so I probably won’t be buying a Rivian in the near future, but I’m rooting for them. They’re keeping Tesla from resting on their laurels.
The R3 pushed all the right buttons for me..and am not even an SUV guy.
To my eye, the Ys proportions are a big improvement to the 3s, whose standard sedan design proportions are stuck in the 90s. Still, much prefer the Rivian for all that lovely boxy functionality.
I’m not crazy about the front either, but at the same time I like it lol! I like how distinctive it is. It’s hard to differentiate these crossovers and SUV’s. I totally agree on the interior review. Interiors in Tesla’s took minimalistic too far!
Charge port is in the wrong location for Tesla Superchargers, otherwise this looks like a great design
Rivian R2 > Tesla Model Y hands down. Ready to trade in my Model 3 as soon as my R2 pre-order spot comes up!
The R2 feels like a natural evolution of the SUV and station wagon. The Model Y feels like an SUV that's ashamed to be an SUV.
Just for sheer practicality, the R2 takes it for me, at least on paper until the R2 is actually released.
R-3 off road with the raised up air suspension would be cool. Give the jeep guys a little buddy to take on the rocks with. 👍
Rivian is true luxury. Tesla is a bare bone feel. I would go with Rivian for shure.
One is a concept two years away the other you can buy today. One company is hemorraging money on every car they make while the other is still making money on every car they make. One has fantom battery drain the other does not. Refreshed MY Ludacris thank you!
One company has a CEO addicted to ketamine and attention, the other CEO is addicted to family and outdoors. Who are you rooting for?
I like how successful Tesla has become for the adoption of EVs, but it's not like they haven't had issues. Tesla is not making money on every car they make (mostly cybertruck), has historically had unreliable batteries (which have certainly improved but they were sketchy at the beginning), and rigged their range estimate tests. I think there's still a decent chance Rivian makes it if they can get new cars to market, especially when considering Tesla's insane ups and downs.
@@AnoNymous-nm6mm NOT TRUE! site your sources for unreliable batteries for Tesla. Cybertruck is not at full production so yes it is not making money, but I said every "car" they make not truck! Tesla struggled during low interest rates and easy lending by banks, Rivian is struggling during high interest rates and bank tightening of lending. You are gullible if you think we are going back to low interest rates which means Rivian will struggle even more than Tesla in a worse environment for a start up.
@@juanmortaco831 The one that has a proven track record for successful startups and innovation! And happens to make a profit while doing so!
What does it matter if it's a car or a truck? As vehicles with the intent to produce profit for a company, Rivian's R1 and numerous Tesla vehicles have taken money to make money,@@pnketia. I am cautiously optimistic that Rivian can succeed with their newer, cheaper, models that will serve a similar role to the 3 and the Y. My understanding of Tesla's batteries is that their quality has improved over time so I'd assume, like many brands, Rivian's will as well. I should've looked into their batteries before using that to "defend" Rivian, because I do know that they're safe; I've just heard of customers having garbage batteries and not getting support from Tesla. But that's too anecdotal to make it seem widespread, so sorry.
I've always thought the Model Y is proportionally odd especially in terms of height. The R2 looks great from every angle. By the way, I'd love to see your critique of the Cadillac Celestiq. Please don't hold back. 😁
R2 is definitely more classic appearing. Tesla has not made any real upgrades to the Model Y. If you ride a model Y, there is nothing luxurious about it. Will it use NACS charging ?
Definitely a Tesla if you want one this year or next. 😂 I’m excited for more options and that Tesla is allowing Rivian and others to use the network! Teamwork makes the dream work!!!
Would skip the R2 altogether and get one of the R3 variants, if Rivian will ever be able to mass produce it.
Rivian's new R2 & R3 look fine. But Rivian's existing models also look fine. The $45,000 starting price for the R2 is fine. Just like the $80k starting price for the R1S is fine. But the most pressing question remains. How is Rivian going to make a profit on the R2 if not able to make a profit on any of its other vehicles? As usual, during the reveal, Rivian was silent on the issue of profits. Given Rivian's $1.5 bill loss in 4Q23, Rivian really needs to address the issue of profits. In 4Q23, Rivian's gaap loss was $107.4k/vehicle. Rivian can roll out all the models it wishes. But without making a profit, it's all for naught. It's madness to buy a vehicle from a company clearly headed for bankruptcy
By the time the Rivian cars get to market sometime in 2 or 3 years, at the rate they are losing money, probably they will run out of cash, so watch it before you reserve one with a down payment. As Elon Musk said : It is easy to make a prototype , but extremely difficult to produce on scale.
It took Tesla something like six years to turn a profit, and they're still here, so I think Rivian will make it at this point. Every quarter they come closer to profitability.
Model y … Rivian is a dream for at least two years.
Rivian is a proper SUV and is a mixture of Jeep&Range rover design but Tesla Y&X are station wagons that got rounded and looks like blob,it’s a matter of taste though.
No offense to Tesla, but I just don’t think the Model Y has the exterior design that we typically associate with an SUV. I honestly didn’t even know it was an SUV for a while.
When I first looked at the Rivian R1S, I’m pretty sure I went like: “ Finally, an electric SUV!”
Which to buy? One is a prototype and the other is in production with heavy discounts. Hmmmm, lemme think...
R2 looks really cool And the price before Tax Incentive is Enticing.
While I drive a Model Y at work I really like Rivians and the R2 looks perfect in design and size for my tastes.
Is the R2 even a crossover? It’s technically an SUV and the R3 is the crossover.
Has a lot space r2 look comfortable and has like 4runner or jeep Rubicon style but much elegant
We now have a direct competitor to the best-selling Model Y. Really? I have to take issue with choosing to use the word 'now'. Perhaps what you really meant to say is, "We may have at some time in the future a direct competitor to the Model Y." We have had numerous direct competitors to Tesla announced in the past. How is Lucid doing now, after all of Peter Rawlinson's trash talking of Elon? The Mustang Mach E is another example. Most of the others have been renderings, hot air, smoke and mirrors. None on the road.
Very different vehicles. As an affordable family car the Model Y is the winner.
But the R2 has better off road adventure versatility, no doubt.
I hope r2 can deliver
The R2 look better but the price, availability, and track record of the Y means I will probably by the Model y Juniper when it comes out.
One you can buy now one you can't
The hype of the R2 will die down. Nice looking SUV though. Interior is premium and delightful.
Rivian R2 mainly because Range price tesla model y is level 2 self driving but r2 is level 3 rivian has a bigger frunk plus all seats fold down and Looks rivian is so much better and the quality of the car on rivian is better
The only thing that would have made this an argument, is the charging network, but now that Rivian will be using the Tesla network and come with NACS ports, it's not an argument. Even if it were $10-15k more, it's still worth it. After 45-50k miles, that Tesla will look 25 years old.
Guess it depends on if you want to drive a fast, somewhat sporty looking car...or a Chevy Suburban.