Nothing would protect the medical staff from radiation on the clothes, they just had to put it as far away as possible from the people around. They knew it was dangerous, but did their job anyway. Someone had to. Brave souls, all of them.
the sacrifice of the hospital staff...... just remember the basement where they were stored is the 2nd most radioactive place next to the actual reactor.....
The general that drove the dosimeter knew that if HE was the one running the test, government officials couldn't deny the results. He had the seniority and the rank to be believed.
As far as the show goes, it makes sense as well. He's a military man watching his higher-up's continuously pass the buck in the face of a national and potentially global emergency. I'm sure that would piss off a guy like him!
He also knew if it was as bad as he suspected he was going to have to send his men into that. Nobody play question his orders after that. Never send your men to do somethingyou will not do yourself.
Just FYI. Soap and water is exactly what's used to decontaminate someone exposed to radiactive fallout/matter. You can absolutely wash off any radioactive matter physically off of something/someone. Which decreases their continued exposure to ionizing radiation. Radiation isn't a virus or bacteria. You get a certain dose while exposed. If we use his bullet analogy, it's like once your shot, that's it, damage done. No one else is gonna get damaged by the bullet that shot you. Technically you could inhale or ingest some radiactive particles, that remain active. Though even then, your body moderates the exposure, so others are not in danger around you. It's actually a sad part of the Chernobyl story not told in this series...That many of the families and children that were evacuated from Pripyat, were trying to be housed by people in Moscow, and other cities. However due to misinformation and myths, a lot of people didn't want to take those families/kids in, because they thought that they could "catch" something from them. They called them "dirty" people. This series is in part guilty of dramatizing the effects, and continuing to spread the same misinformation.
As a kid in the 80’s, living in SwedenI actually remember the grown up talk about this a lot. My parents never let my baby brother crawl on the grass in the garden and in school we visited the bunkers so we knew how to get there.
400 kilometers = just under 250 miles, so a LONG way, so they were detecting high levels a LONG WAY away from the actual explosion. I was only 9 when this happened, just a few months after the Challenger space shuttle exploded. Netflix has show called "Meltdown" about what went down at the nuclear power plant on Three Mile Island in PA in the 70's.i live in WV and was born in 77 so I found it very interesting.
A few comments: - Pumping water would have been a good idea, if the reactor was intact, it is used to cool down the core, but that only works on moderate temperatures like in normal operation. At this point the reactor is so hot that it immediatly vaporizes and basically does nothing, like the saying a drop of water on a hot stone - It can not really effect the light itself, but at that level it causes the battery to loose its charge very fast - The helicopter falling down was a bit of an over dramatization. Yes, an helicopter actually crashed. But it was not because of the radiation, its rotor colided with a chain of a nearby crane. You can see that if you look closely. By them not explaining it, it comes across as a direct consequence of the radiation. However, it is possible that the radiation confused/affected the pilot in such a way, that he made that fatal mistake - In general about radiation: It's not so simple but there are a few different effects 1.) direct radiation from radioactive elements destroy biological matter, e.g. human tissue. The body can repair that to a certain extent, but it depends very much on the total amount of radiation and the radiation per time. If you leave the site you body is no longer exposed and you may heal from it 2.) exposure to radioactive dust: either on your clothing, in food, water or when you breath it in. You can to a certain degree wash that off from the exterior of objects or clothing or even your skin, but if you ingest it or inhale it, it will stay in your body and slowly keep damaging your body and you probably die in a few years of cancer. So washing the car was helping to an extent. Removing the clothes from the fire fighters also helped, they may have temporarily higher exposure by removing it, but locking it away decreases the long term exposure to them 3.) direct radiation can make other elements radioactive, e.g. if a car is exposed to high levels of direct radiation it itself may become radioactive, which you can't wash off, but that applies more to the materials inside the plant, not just the radioactive dust that the fire threw into the air So there are mulitple issues to consider and there is not one solution
As I understand it, the pilot was suffering from fatigue and could not see the cable through the smoke...but the radiation did interfere with the radio communications to the helos when they were that close...so the observers were unable to get through to the pilot to warn him to move away from the cable. Great comment...I really enjoy the highly educated and detailed comments that are made on reactions to this series. 👍
I was told that the facts about all the years that the core would have been throwing radiaton were false that by the time the made the dome the radiaton numbers were already going down. But I don't know if its 100% true.
@@LordCartanya Not sure what scene you mean exactly. Of course the Boron and Sand quenched the fire and stopped the worst spreading the nuclear dust rapidely over long distances. It was still necessary to cover it by some shielding to prevent wind to blow the dust into the environment. I expect close to the site without the dome it would still be a death sentence if you spent hours there. A youtuber visited the basement of the hospital a couple years back, where the clothing of the firefighters is still just laying around. In that room you still get a dangerous amount of radiation in a matter of hours. And this is just from the radioactive dust on their clothing, just think how much more material is in the reactor.
@@fritzgroes8284that was a such a brilliant scene. That doctor was so right. Those clothes are still there and highly radioactive to this day. Really helps people understand how dangerous radiation actually is.
@@fritzgroes8284firefighters clothing emits 17 000 micro-roentgens per hour, and thousands of roentgen are written on the basement wall of the 126th medical unit.
One of my favorite scenes in this series is when Ulana Khomyuk (scientist lady) is briefing Gorbachev about what will happen if they don't drain that water.
Same here, and we had NO idea that that danger was possible at the time - I was in my late 20s, so I remember it well. We thought it was the radioactive cloud of dust passing over the continent that was the danger, not that they came so close to risking another, even worse explosion. It was when she reminded them that there were THREE MORE reactors there that would also blow up that was a real gut punch.
You’ve totally misunderstood. The people in the bar were KGB spying on him. That’s why Legasov said there’s nothing to worry about. If he’d said otherwise he’d have been arrested 🤷🏻♂️
That's an easy scene to not know on the first watch that they're KGB agents. . there's no misunderstanding, They also literally looped around and mentioned that him saying anything could get him trouble still.
Because all prices in the USSR were fixed by the state, direct conversions between ruble and dollar are not correct. Based on the purchasing power of the ruble back then, my understanding is that 400 of them is more like $10k nowadays...it was equivalent to a month of pay for a very high skilled/well paid person.
@@portugalgamermanel3404in the Soviet Union it only took 15 cents to buy a metro ticket, 5 cents for a bus ticket. and 10 sen can buy 1kg of 18:21 bread. 😂
@@portugalgamermanel3404 there was a 1,000% tax on cars in the soviet union that's the reason in 1980 there were only 14 cars for every 1,000 people in the soviet union. and everyone uses bicycles and public transportation. and there are no toll roads in the Soviet Union. there are no container trucks in the Soviet Union Because all goods use trains
@@portugalgamermanel3404The minimum wage in the Soviet Union was 70 rubles per month for street sweepers, the salary of factory workers was 150 rubles per month, the salary of doctors and scientists was 200 rubles per month, the salary of factory directors and mayors was 300 rubles per month and the highest salary for the president was 800 rubers per month.
A basic fact: The energy in nuclear power plants comes from nuclear reactions (protons and neutrons in the core of the atom) not chemical reactions (electrons in the shell of the atom). So it's nuclear physics not chemistry. In generall the energy per mass released in those reactions (an thus the radiation) is about one million times higher than that of chemical reactions. In other words chemistry is about changing the bonds between different atoms, while nuclear reactions (fission) is about breaking the atom itself apart It's a common missconception
Btw the helicopter didnt collapsed because of the radiation but because of the blades hitting the cable of the crane close by, while flying besides it. over time ofcourse, everthing gets heavily effected by radiation especially old school transistors and electronic circuits etc. and very dramatically organic matter
13:04 they clear radiation dust. So the car can be use again 17:08 is call ussr . 18:14 They used 3,000 buses from Kiev. it was actually very horrendous, all the buses suddenly disappeared from the city.
Microwaves are non ionizing radiation. That screen on the glass on the door blocks all microwaves from coming out. You could sit on a microwave for 10 years and be fine.
Aww. You don’t have to worry about your microwave. However; you really shouldn’t suck helium from your kids birthday balloons in order to talk funny. Helium is a byproduct of radioactive decay. …actually; it most likely not going to cause too much damage, but why push one’s luck.
Microwaves are low frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum, lower than visual light that we all experience. Nuclear radiation is super high frequency on the spectrum, like gamma rays. It's so high energy it's a killer. Microwaves are tame by comparison. Look up the spectrum, it's really interesting.
It's a lot harder to understand the motivations of people and the ignorance of the public if you weren't alive in the 80s and don't know much about the Soviet Union. It was basically an idiocracy. People were promoted to positions of power based on their corruption, their "loyalty" to those above them, their adherence to the collapsing Communist ideology etc. These people didn't have books to read even if they were inclined to, because unless something was approved by the state the people couldn't have it. To really show this point, every radio and TV in the Soviet Union had limiters on them so they could not pick up any Western "propaganda". People had to hack their radio just to be able to try to listen to Radio Free Europe (which was intended to broadcast across borders into the Soviet Union to inform the citizens about life outside and let them hear news and music from the UK, US and EU). Radio Free Europe is credited with saving potentially hundreds of thousands of lives when this disaster happened, because when the West realized what was going on they started broadcasting warnings into the Soviet Union. Many people there only realized the severity of it from people who had hacked their radios and could hear Radio Free Europe telling them to keep their windows closed, not let their kids outside, only eat canned food, save fresh water in the bathtub, take iodine pills etc. There's one story about an anonymous person calling all the schools in Belarus and Ukraine and telling them to keep the kids indoors. Teachers who got the phone calls said it sounded like an American who'd learned Russian in the West. So, it's believed one of the US agencies started communicating directly to schools to warn them about what was going on and that potentially saved a lot of lives, too.
Soap and water is actually the exact thing you want. Remove as many radioactive particles from the surface of the contaminated object, even people. Check out decontamination protocols in cold war governmental contingency bunkers.
24:43 - They were 100% aware of radiation and its effects on the world, post WW2 everyone was aware. This was the 80’s. Also, this has never happened before ON PURPOSE- the amount of nuclear missiles that have been tested by the USA is 1,054 (talk about messing things we shouldn’t be messing with), Russia has tested 727 nuclear weapons. We have all been EXTREMELY aware of radioactivity. Especially the effects, if the effects weren’t there they wouldn’t have nuclear weapons. Oppenheimer led to the creation of our weapon, but he immediately stood on the anti-use side for any nuclear weapons at any time. That speaks volumes. It also speaks volumes that Einstein stood on the anti-nuclear use side as well. There are certain things that we believe we can control in this world, that we simply can not. A lot of people say “the death count is much lower per kw/h for nuclear power” and things like that, which is true. I just always leave it with this, if a solar farm, wind turbine, water damn, or buoy system get hit by a missile guess what happens- some equipment replacement. If a nuclear plant gets hit by a missile, guess what happens- a catastrophic nuclear meltdown that would kill millions. There are times where you have to also look at the RISK of what you are handling, and where you are handling it.
On one side definitely true that a nuclear reactor has inherent risks other power plants have not. Comparing a nuclear bomb with a catastrophic failure of a reactor like Chernobyl is a different story, a bomb gives of a huge blast of radiation and creates a certain level of fallout, however the amount when compared to a cracked nuclear reactor is nigh inconsequential. Luckily all modern reactors are build with the risk in mind and don‘t share the flaws of reactor types like the RBMK (I won’t go into detail to avoid spoilers). Most reactors have reinforced containment buildings which can withstand a conventional attack, and even if the containment structure is breached the reactor is still further inside and usually safe. On top of that we have learned from Chernobyl and Fukushima and developed even more precautions. I don‘t say there will never be another accident, that would be naive, but we are prepared for a lot of scenarios.
not everyone. not at all. Russia purposefully suppressed all public information about the nature of radiation. The public had a general idea of it being a sickness but not critical knowldge about its true nature and how to deal with it. When Chernobyl happened, what little books or material was available about it, all disappeared so the public couldnt inform themselves.
I'm well versed in the physics of nuclear fission and radiation; For someone who knows very little about radioactivity and the history of chernobyl, Sophie's statements, questions, and intuition are very impressive. She's a layman but her mindset and questions would make her an ideal student for a professor on this subject, and she's likely thinking deeper than 90% of all the other viewers of this series. She deserves credit. Respectfully, she was out-thinking her man on this episode's commentary as well which is refreshing to see; a black woman flexing her brain honestly and respectfully is attractive af.
A doctor of mine lived close to there when she was young and the plant blew up. Her dad was a nuclear physicist that had to go in and check out the levels of radiation around the plant after it blew up and he died of nuclear radiation a couple months later.
Okay. Please don’t take this the wrong way. I don’t want you to think that I’m being mean about it. That’s not my intention at all. You were talking about how we know not to mix certain chemicals; less we get a chemical chain reaction. Well, the reason we know about what chain reactions occur when we combine certain elements is because at point someone put those elements together. In science; we learn just as much (if not more) from our mistakes as we do from our successes. Chernobyl was a terrible incident, but we learned a great deal from it, and today nuclear power is one of the most efficient and safest forms of energy distribution.
Actually I need to correct you. Men and women were treated the same. That goes back to Soviet formation. In World War 2 women had to fight alongside with the men. After WW2 women were sent to school and given all sorts of positions. They actually had equality long before other countrys. The guy HAD TO go into the water if not, you and I would not be talking right now. FACT. Let that sink in for a moment. The did know all about radiation, but they didnt know how to deal with this situation. The heat from the exposed core was what burned it up. Dont forget to read my comments from your first episode
17:40 The fact is that the Soviets only took 3.5 hours to evacuate 50,000 people but they took 24 hours to decide whether to evacuate or not 21:33 For comparison, the minimum wage in the Soviet Union was 70 rubles per month, like a street sweeper, the salary of factory workers was 150 rubles per month, the salary of doctors and scientists was 200 rubles per month, the salary of factory directors and mayors was 300 rubles per month and the highest salary for the president was 800 rubles per month. . and everyone has the right to free housing, free school to college, free health care. large subsidies in transport and food. paid maternity leave and paid parental leave. And women can retire at the age of 55. As long as they are loyal to the party
There was some misdirection in the series regarding the downed helicopter. It crashed because it clipped a crane, you can actually see that in the video. I suppose it helped the drama to let you think it was the radiation.
Yeah I always thought it was weird, the way the show depicted that. Like they clearly show that it hits the cables, which is what happened in real life… but the dialog makes it sound like it’s the radiation itself that somehow zapped the rotor blades apart. I think it’s an example of the visual effects team being given reference footage and the writers not doing their research.
Another big reason for not telling people about the realities is that getting shot is not the only thing. Your family, your extended family could all be sent to prison camps in Siberia for something you did.
This is communism at its finest. Merit wasn’t rewarded like we do. And if u think we aren’t immune just look at all the DEI nonsense (diversity equity and inclusion) it’s communism in sheep’s clothing. U hear DEI, roll your eyes and say Nope…
For perspective on the helicopter: The radiation didn't cause the heli to break up, the radiation either injured the pilot or fried the electronics in the helicopter and the. It flew uncontrolled into a wire hanging from the cranes. Helicopter rotors and tail rotors are all connected like the pistons of an engine. So when the blade hits something stiff, it can destroy the entire helicopter violently.
Y'all. You have GOOGLE MACHINES IN YOUR HANDS. you do not have to WONDER. How far 500 kilometers is. What is with reactors thinking they can't just look up shit like that up in the middle of an episode? They don't have to be confused, and I guarantee EVERY SINGLE VIEWER is gonna be much less frustrated when the impact of the data you didn't understand because it happened to be in the metric system sinks in. Oh my god i think i need to watch less reactions of this very little thing is setting me off this badly lol
Excellent book on the history of the nuclear weapons industry is Command and Control. We did know ALOT about radiation poisoning. Dr Curie died of cancer decades earlier. During the manhattan project an accident occurred that showed the awfulness of radiation to the human body. The effects were documented in detail. But keep in mind this is the Soviet Union they did t communicate with us in the US at all… they probably also had smaller accidents though.
I am almost positive US shared pretty much all info on radiation sickness effects with the USSR as part of the International Atomic Energy Agency starting in 1957. And the Soviets had spies all throughout the US atomic program right from the start, so they knew about all of the early US accidents one way or the other.
@@iKvetch558 the titan missle museum in Tucson is so cool to visit… the silo and missle is still there and u can stand at its base. Feels like traveling back to the 60s…Star Trek first contact was filmed there
@@iKvetch558 problem is the government suppressed the info about from its public. When chernobyl occured they removed all material and information about radiation. People knew it was some sort of illness but its true nature was not common knowledge, especially regarding how to deal with it. That cost a lot of lives.
Here in the USA we should have put up statues to the three workers who went into the water. We should have named high schools after them. They weren't just Russian heroes they were heroes for the whole world. Had they failed, Europe would have died.
I wish sophie would at least educate herself on the basic history of the USSR and basic science. Listening to jer say all this wrong i fo and opinions is so frustrating
You don't wash off the radiation, you wash off all the tiny little irradiated particles that carry it around. Those radioactive particles are basically tiny little atoms blasting through almost everything, including your body, even your genetic makeup, destroying it in the process. And water is kinda important because you want to cool the reaction down to prevent a meltdown.
The helicopter crashed not due to radiation; the pilot didn't see the crane and the rotor blades got tangled in the cables. This is a real story, but it happened half a year after the accident, when the fire in the reactor was extinguished. The helicopter crashed into the turbine hall, where it is "buried"
Why we say stuff like " Why you do this....why do that...." in a rhetorical critical tone? without backing it up with what you would do instead.(better or worse)? Why wash off the dust and particles on the suit? Seems logical. But you don't see it so it's comes out critical and rhetorical while he busts out laughing. I dont give a shit about critiquing Soviet Ukraine (you clearly understand what that is wirh your top notch American education..), but at least offer up what youd do so different so you dont look like an arm chair general, a hindsight hero. Thats not you. It is very important to understand why, rather than just judge and ignore thought process that are there....but you dont see. Like why he washed after cleaning. Offer up a suggestion as to what else shpuld be done if its rhetorical. Just off putting and very North American. Appreciate it but damn.
The thing is, we don’t know too much about atomic physics, let alone the different kinds of radiation. When it’s covered in high school most kids tune out and think it’s boring. Until people see a show like this and realize it actually affects their lives.
The 3 workers who volunteered to do the water pumps all survived 2 still alive when this was made, also i worked out 400 ruples was about 300 dollars i found out 1 ruple was equal to 0.62 dollars
400 Km is around 250 miles. 400 rubles (in 1986) was ~$650 USD. That'd be a nice chunk of change (especially in the USSR back then) but not alot when you consider what those fellas were being asked to do.
I’m from Ireland and I still have the old box of iodine tablets that the government issued at this time, parents were freaked by this whole thing but I was too young to get it.
Man, people misguided you on what was known or not known. Yes, Chernobyl's explosion was the first of its kind, but radiation accidents had happened a lot before Chernobyl, and they knew plenty--they as in all the major world powers--what would and wouldn't work in a lot of cases. The problem wasn't that, it was that a lot of it wasn't enough. Also, you CAN wash off radiation, depending on the kind it is.
We did. Even back then. The first nuclear reactor was built by a legendary figure in Physics, Wolfgang Pauli. The reason we could even build a reactor is because our understanding of the atom and radiation was complete enough to turn it into a machine. It's just that USSR ignored a lot of the things most physicists agreed on vehemently should not be ignored. Deviation from procedure, graphite tipped control rods, positive void coefficient, no external containment structure and a Government too pussy to be seen as weak.
The helicopter hit a cable and that's how it crashed. They recently debunked that recently but it and everyone on it would have deteriorated quite soon after.
400 kilometers is about 250 miles… 1 mile is about 1.6 kilometers….and back then in 1986 400 rubles was about $645 In US currency. Oppenheimer is credited with being the man who invented the first nuclear bomb here in America (the first ever in the history of mankind) it was of the utmost secrecy at the time and was called the Manhattan Project….the 2 nuclear bombs we dropped on Japan to end WW2 was a direct result of the Manhattan Project….current nuclear bombs are WAAAYY more powerful than those we dropped on Japan back then.
Because all prices in the USSR were fixed by the state, direct conversions between ruble and dollar are not correct. Based on the purchasing power of the ruble back then, my understanding is that 400 of them is more like $10k nowadays...it was equivalent to a month of pay for a very high skilled/well paid person.
The helicopter crash happened, but it happened 6 months after the explosion. And it hit the crane cables, and ripped the blades off and grashed on the building. There is a upclose video of it on youtube. The radiation had nothing to do with it, and wouldnt do that to a helicopter or even that fast
Women in scientific fields in the Soviet Union (and really in society in general) were treated closer to equals to men than in Western nations, the US in particular.
In an RBMK Reactor, which is what Chernobyl was, water was used as a coolant not a conductor. That is the reason they thought they could drown a “fire” with water. The issue was that the core broke. They had to stop that core from burning so they drowned it in sand and boron. This created a lava, which still had nuclear properties. It is almost disrespectful to call it a lava, because it is still hot today. If that were to hit the water basin the explosion wouldn’t be nuclear it would’ve been thermal, as in the instant boiling of the entire basin leading to expanding and immediate explosion. That would’ve wiped out the entire east side of Europe and West side of Russia. They saved so many lives, but they also caused every death and radiation cancer death- because they allowed that reactor to run with this major flaw.
And why wouldn’t they? Radiation generally is not a significant part of daily life or discussion. X-rays? Radon? UV radiation? That’s about it and only one of those is frequent in life.
Typical comment...copy/pasted here... In this episode, there were a few things the makers of the show changed for various reasons. For one thing, the character who said that they should close off the city in the first episode and is evacuated in this one, did not exist...he was added for dramatic purposes. Also, the helicopter crash did not happen so soon after the explosion...it really happened months later in October, 1986, and had little to do with radiation. As I mentioned in my comment to episode 1, once you are done with the series, the History vs Hollywood article on the show is a must read.
Nothing would protect the medical staff from radiation on the clothes, they just had to put it as far away as possible from the people around. They knew it was dangerous, but did their job anyway. Someone had to. Brave souls, all of them.
The lead nurse is actually a doctor. Female doctors and scientists were a bit more prevalent in the USSR then in the West.
the sacrifice of the hospital staff...... just remember the basement where they were stored is the 2nd most radioactive place next to the actual reactor.....
The general that drove the dosimeter knew that if HE was the one running the test, government officials couldn't deny the results. He had the seniority and the rank to be believed.
Awesome comment.
That general is the best time of leader - willing to risk himself to ensure success
As far as the show goes, it makes sense as well. He's a military man watching his higher-up's continuously pass the buck in the face of a national and potentially global emergency. I'm sure that would piss off a guy like him!
General Pikalov, he’s got a history of cleaning up dangerous harmful materials in WWII as well
He also knew if it was as bad as he suspected he was going to have to send his men into that. Nobody play question his orders after that. Never send your men to do somethingyou will not do yourself.
Just FYI. Soap and water is exactly what's used to decontaminate someone exposed to radiactive fallout/matter. You can absolutely wash off any radioactive matter physically off of something/someone. Which decreases their continued exposure to ionizing radiation. Radiation isn't a virus or bacteria. You get a certain dose while exposed. If we use his bullet analogy, it's like once your shot, that's it, damage done. No one else is gonna get damaged by the bullet that shot you. Technically you could inhale or ingest some radiactive particles, that remain active. Though even then, your body moderates the exposure, so others are not in danger around you. It's actually a sad part of the Chernobyl story not told in this series...That many of the families and children that were evacuated from Pripyat, were trying to be housed by people in Moscow, and other cities. However due to misinformation and myths, a lot of people didn't want to take those families/kids in, because they thought that they could "catch" something from them. They called them "dirty" people. This series is in part guilty of dramatizing the effects, and continuing to spread the same misinformation.
As a kid in the 80’s, living in SwedenI actually remember the grown up talk about this a lot.
My parents never let my baby brother crawl on the grass in the garden and in school we visited the bunkers so we knew how to get there.
400 kilometers = just under 250 miles, so a LONG way, so they were detecting high levels a LONG WAY away from the actual explosion. I was only 9 when this happened, just a few months after the Challenger space shuttle exploded. Netflix has show called "Meltdown" about what went down at the nuclear power plant on Three Mile Island in PA in the 70's.i live in WV and was born in 77 so I found it very interesting.
A few comments:
- Pumping water would have been a good idea, if the reactor was intact, it is used to cool down the core, but that only works on moderate temperatures like in normal operation. At this point the reactor is so hot that it immediatly vaporizes and basically does nothing, like the saying a drop of water on a hot stone
- It can not really effect the light itself, but at that level it causes the battery to loose its charge very fast
- The helicopter falling down was a bit of an over dramatization. Yes, an helicopter actually crashed. But it was not because of the radiation, its rotor colided with a chain of a nearby crane. You can see that if you look closely. By them not explaining it, it comes across as a direct consequence of the radiation. However, it is possible that the radiation confused/affected the pilot in such a way, that he made that fatal mistake
- In general about radiation: It's not so simple but there are a few different effects
1.) direct radiation from radioactive elements destroy biological matter, e.g. human tissue. The body can repair that to a certain extent, but it depends very much on the total amount of radiation and the radiation per time. If you leave the site you body is no longer exposed and you may heal from it
2.) exposure to radioactive dust: either on your clothing, in food, water or when you breath it in. You can to a certain degree wash that off from the exterior of objects or clothing or even your skin, but if you ingest it or inhale it, it will stay in your body and slowly keep damaging your body and you probably die in a few years of cancer. So washing the car was helping to an extent. Removing the clothes from the fire fighters also helped, they may have temporarily higher exposure by removing it, but locking it away decreases the long term exposure to them
3.) direct radiation can make other elements radioactive, e.g. if a car is exposed to high levels of direct radiation it itself may become radioactive, which you can't wash off, but that applies more to the materials inside the plant, not just the radioactive dust that the fire threw into the air
So there are mulitple issues to consider and there is not one solution
As I understand it, the pilot was suffering from fatigue and could not see the cable through the smoke...but the radiation did interfere with the radio communications to the helos when they were that close...so the observers were unable to get through to the pilot to warn him to move away from the cable. Great comment...I really enjoy the highly educated and detailed comments that are made on reactions to this series. 👍
I was told that the facts about all the years that the core would have been throwing radiaton were false that by the time the made the dome the radiaton numbers were already going down. But I don't know if its 100% true.
@@LordCartanya Not sure what scene you mean exactly. Of course the Boron and Sand quenched the fire and stopped the worst spreading the nuclear dust rapidely over long distances. It was still necessary to cover it by some shielding to prevent wind to blow the dust into the environment. I expect close to the site without the dome it would still be a death sentence if you spent hours there. A youtuber visited the basement of the hospital a couple years back, where the clothing of the firefighters is still just laying around. In that room you still get a dangerous amount of radiation in a matter of hours. And this is just from the radioactive dust on their clothing, just think how much more material is in the reactor.
@@fritzgroes8284that was a such a brilliant scene. That doctor was so right. Those clothes are still there and highly radioactive to this day.
Really helps people understand how dangerous radiation actually is.
@@fritzgroes8284firefighters clothing emits 17 000 micro-roentgens per hour, and thousands of roentgen are written on the basement wall of the 126th medical unit.
One of my favorite scenes in this series is when Ulana Khomyuk (scientist lady) is briefing Gorbachev about what will happen if they don't drain that water.
Same here, and we had NO idea that that danger was possible at the time - I was in my late 20s, so I remember it well. We thought it was the radioactive cloud of dust passing over the continent that was the danger, not that they came so close to risking another, even worse explosion. It was when she reminded them that there were THREE MORE reactors there that would also blow up that was a real gut punch.
You’ve totally misunderstood. The people in the bar were KGB spying on him. That’s why Legasov said there’s nothing to worry about. If he’d said otherwise he’d have been arrested 🤷🏻♂️
That's an easy scene to not know on the first watch that they're KGB agents. . there's no misunderstanding, They also literally looped around and mentioned that him saying anything could get him trouble still.
We don't know they are KGB spies until later. I grew up in 1980s USSR and didn't realise who they were straight away.
I doubt the hosts would know about the ubiquity of the KGB.
The agents were definitely a test for Lagasov, they are all being surveilled.
You caught that on the first viewing? Why don’t you just pat yourself on the back next time and leave the condescending comments behind 🤷♂️
Legasov didn’t know that in the moment, and they made a point of him realizing it in a later episode.
400 rubles in 1986 was approximately $645 USD at that time. it wasn't much.
Because all prices in the USSR were fixed by the state, direct conversions between ruble and dollar are not correct. Based on the purchasing power of the ruble back then, my understanding is that 400 of them is more like $10k nowadays...it was equivalent to a month of pay for a very high skilled/well paid person.
@@iKvetch558 i did some investigation a good car in 1986 was 10k rubles... so i trust in the source of 645 dolares
@@portugalgamermanel3404in the Soviet Union it only took 15 cents to buy a metro ticket, 5 cents for a bus ticket. and 10 sen can buy 1kg of 18:21 bread. 😂
@@portugalgamermanel3404 there was a 1,000% tax on cars in the soviet union that's the reason in 1980 there were only 14 cars for every 1,000 people in the soviet union. and everyone uses bicycles and public transportation. and there are no toll roads in the Soviet Union. there are no container trucks in the Soviet Union Because all goods use trains
@@portugalgamermanel3404The minimum wage in the Soviet Union was 70 rubles per month for street sweepers, the salary of factory workers was 150 rubles per month, the salary of doctors and scientists was 200 rubles per month, the salary of factory directors and mayors was 300 rubles per month and the highest salary for the president was 800 rubers per month.
A basic fact: The energy in nuclear power plants comes from nuclear reactions (protons and neutrons in the core of the atom) not chemical reactions (electrons in the shell of the atom). So it's nuclear physics not chemistry.
In generall the energy per mass released in those reactions (an thus the radiation) is about one million times higher than that of chemical reactions.
In other words chemistry is about changing the bonds between different atoms, while nuclear reactions (fission) is about breaking the atom itself apart
It's a common missconception
Best comment.
Btw the helicopter didnt collapsed because of the radiation but because of the blades hitting the cable of the crane close by, while flying besides it. over time ofcourse, everthing gets heavily effected by radiation especially old school transistors and electronic circuits etc. and very dramatically organic matter
" If this happen in real life" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
in the 80s it was called the Soviet Union 🤦🏼♀️
Well, they seem kinda young, how would they know that.
I just feel sorry for Ukraine.
@@LadyScaperif they paid attention in school and history classes
13:04 they clear radiation dust. So the car can be use again
17:08 is call ussr .
18:14 They used 3,000 buses from Kiev. it was actually very horrendous, all the buses suddenly disappeared from the city.
14:29 due to radiation and smoke pilot and presumably crew got disoriented and snagged crane wires, heli blades broke, chopper lost the lift and fell
I don't even turn on a microwave anymore after this show
Microwaves are non ionizing radiation. That screen on the glass on the door blocks all microwaves from coming out. You could sit on a microwave for 10 years and be fine.
Aww. You don’t have to worry about your microwave. However; you really shouldn’t suck helium from your kids birthday balloons in order to talk funny. Helium is a byproduct of radioactive decay.
…actually; it most likely not going to cause too much damage, but why push one’s luck.
Microwaves are low frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum, lower than visual light that we all experience. Nuclear radiation is super high frequency on the spectrum, like gamma rays. It's so high energy it's a killer. Microwaves are tame by comparison. Look up the spectrum, it's really interesting.
It's a lot harder to understand the motivations of people and the ignorance of the public if you weren't alive in the 80s and don't know much about the Soviet Union. It was basically an idiocracy. People were promoted to positions of power based on their corruption, their "loyalty" to those above them, their adherence to the collapsing Communist ideology etc. These people didn't have books to read even if they were inclined to, because unless something was approved by the state the people couldn't have it. To really show this point, every radio and TV in the Soviet Union had limiters on them so they could not pick up any Western "propaganda". People had to hack their radio just to be able to try to listen to Radio Free Europe (which was intended to broadcast across borders into the Soviet Union to inform the citizens about life outside and let them hear news and music from the UK, US and EU).
Radio Free Europe is credited with saving potentially hundreds of thousands of lives when this disaster happened, because when the West realized what was going on they started broadcasting warnings into the Soviet Union. Many people there only realized the severity of it from people who had hacked their radios and could hear Radio Free Europe telling them to keep their windows closed, not let their kids outside, only eat canned food, save fresh water in the bathtub, take iodine pills etc. There's one story about an anonymous person calling all the schools in Belarus and Ukraine and telling them to keep the kids indoors. Teachers who got the phone calls said it sounded like an American who'd learned Russian in the West. So, it's believed one of the US agencies started communicating directly to schools to warn them about what was going on and that potentially saved a lot of lives, too.
Soap and water is actually the exact thing you want. Remove as many radioactive particles from the surface of the contaminated object, even people. Check out decontamination protocols in cold war governmental contingency bunkers.
Fun fact - The 3 guys who turned off the water ALL survived and went on to live their lives free from any form of cancer. Go figure!
I guess we don't have to count on either of you to do the brave and selfless act like the 3 workers did, good to know, thanks.
24:43 - They were 100% aware of radiation and its effects on the world, post WW2 everyone was aware. This was the 80’s. Also, this has never happened before ON PURPOSE- the amount of nuclear missiles that have been tested by the USA is 1,054 (talk about messing things we shouldn’t be messing with), Russia has tested 727 nuclear weapons. We have all been EXTREMELY aware of radioactivity. Especially the effects, if the effects weren’t there they wouldn’t have nuclear weapons. Oppenheimer led to the creation of our weapon, but he immediately stood on the anti-use side for any nuclear weapons at any time. That speaks volumes. It also speaks volumes that Einstein stood on the anti-nuclear use side as well. There are certain things that we believe we can control in this world, that we simply can not. A lot of people say “the death count is much lower per kw/h for nuclear power” and things like that, which is true. I just always leave it with this, if a solar farm, wind turbine, water damn, or buoy system get hit by a missile guess what happens- some equipment replacement. If a nuclear plant gets hit by a missile, guess what happens- a catastrophic nuclear meltdown that would kill millions. There are times where you have to also look at the RISK of what you are handling, and where you are handling it.
On one side definitely true that a nuclear reactor has inherent risks other power plants have not. Comparing a nuclear bomb with a catastrophic failure of a reactor like Chernobyl is a different story, a bomb gives of a huge blast of radiation and creates a certain level of fallout, however the amount when compared to a cracked nuclear reactor is nigh inconsequential. Luckily all modern reactors are build with the risk in mind and don‘t share the flaws of reactor types like the RBMK (I won’t go into detail to avoid spoilers). Most reactors have reinforced containment buildings which can withstand a conventional attack, and even if the containment structure is breached the reactor is still further inside and usually safe. On top of that we have learned from Chernobyl and Fukushima and developed even more precautions. I don‘t say there will never be another accident, that would be naive, but we are prepared for a lot of scenarios.
not everyone. not at all. Russia purposefully suppressed all public information about the nature of radiation. The public had a general idea of it being a sickness but not critical knowldge about its true nature and how to deal with it. When Chernobyl happened, what little books or material was available about it, all disappeared so the public couldnt inform themselves.
man sophie is so smart fr. she picks up on peoples emotions INCREDIBLE quickly
no...she isn't... lol.
@@Vendrix86 who TF are you? Yes she is. I don't remember asking your opinion lil buddy.
I'm well versed in the physics of nuclear fission and radiation; For someone who knows very little about radioactivity and the history of chernobyl, Sophie's statements, questions, and intuition are very impressive. She's a layman but her mindset and questions would make her an ideal student for a professor on this subject, and she's likely thinking deeper than 90% of all the other viewers of this series. She deserves credit. Respectfully, she was out-thinking her man on this episode's commentary as well which is refreshing to see; a black woman flexing her brain honestly and respectfully is attractive af.
@@capnlongdong1396lol. Right. Thanks captain long dong.
yesss! ive been waiting for your reaction to ep 2! please continue watching. it's only going to get crazier. i really love your reactions
A doctor of mine lived close to there when she was young and the plant blew up. Her dad was a nuclear physicist that had to go in and check out the levels of radiation around the plant after it blew up and he died of nuclear radiation a couple months later.
They aren't doing it for 400 roubles. They doing it to save lives.
0:37 this means you are supposed to turn on subtitles yourself
Okay. Please don’t take this the wrong way. I don’t want you to think that I’m being mean about it. That’s not my intention at all.
You were talking about how we know not to mix certain chemicals; less we get a chemical chain reaction. Well, the reason we know about what chain reactions occur when we combine certain elements is because at point someone put those elements together. In science; we learn just as much (if not more) from our mistakes as we do from our successes. Chernobyl was a terrible incident, but we learned a great deal from it, and today nuclear power is one of the most efficient and safest forms of energy distribution.
I was in high school when this happened..I remember being glued to the tV. It was terrifying.
Actually I need to correct you. Men and women were treated the same. That goes back to Soviet formation. In World War 2 women had to fight alongside with the men. After WW2 women were sent to school and given all sorts of positions. They actually had equality long before other countrys. The guy HAD TO go into the water if not, you and I would not be talking right now. FACT. Let that sink in for a moment. The did know all about radiation, but they didnt know how to deal with this situation. The heat from the exposed core was what burned it up. Dont forget to read my comments from your first episode
17:40 The fact is that the Soviets only took 3.5 hours to evacuate 50,000 people but they took 24 hours to decide whether to evacuate or not
21:33 For comparison, the minimum wage in the Soviet Union was 70 rubles per month, like a street sweeper, the salary of factory workers was 150 rubles per month, the salary of doctors and scientists was 200 rubles per month, the salary of factory directors and mayors was 300 rubles per month and the highest salary for the president was 800 rubles per month. .
and everyone has the right to free housing, free school to college, free health care. large subsidies in transport and food. paid maternity leave and paid parental leave. And women can retire at the age of 55. As long as they are loyal to the party
There was some misdirection in the series regarding the downed helicopter. It crashed because it clipped a crane, you can actually see that in the video. I suppose it helped the drama to let you think it was the radiation.
Yeah I always thought it was weird, the way the show depicted that. Like they clearly show that it hits the cables, which is what happened in real life… but the dialog makes it sound like it’s the radiation itself that somehow zapped the rotor blades apart.
I think it’s an example of the visual effects team being given reference footage and the writers not doing their research.
Another big reason for not telling people about the realities is that getting shot is not the only thing. Your family, your extended family could all be sent to prison camps in Siberia for something you did.
Sophie: “There’s a lot of lack of ignorance…..”
Me: 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂
This is communism at its finest. Merit wasn’t rewarded like we do. And if u think we aren’t immune just look at all the DEI nonsense (diversity equity and inclusion) it’s communism in sheep’s clothing. U hear DEI, roll your eyes and say Nope…
For perspective on the helicopter:
The radiation didn't cause the heli to break up, the radiation either injured the pilot or fried the electronics in the helicopter and the. It flew uncontrolled into a wire hanging from the cranes. Helicopter rotors and tail rotors are all connected like the pistons of an engine. So when the blade hits something stiff, it can destroy the entire helicopter violently.
400 ruples would buy a top end automobile at this time.
This series is full of real life HEROES. More than any war film I have ever seen.
The helicopter hit a crane line! I thought on my first watch the radiation just tore through that quick too lol
Her being a woman is irrelevant, they would’ve used her then discredit her or make her a hero. She would have a “choice” of the two
Y'all. You have GOOGLE MACHINES IN YOUR HANDS. you do not have to WONDER. How far 500 kilometers is.
What is with reactors thinking they can't just look up shit like that up in the middle of an episode?
They don't have to be confused, and I guarantee EVERY SINGLE VIEWER is gonna be much less frustrated when the impact of the data you didn't understand because it happened to be in the metric system sinks in. Oh my god i think i need to watch less reactions of this very little thing is setting me off this badly lol
Excellent book on the history of the nuclear weapons industry is Command and Control. We did know ALOT about radiation poisoning. Dr Curie died of cancer decades earlier. During the manhattan project an accident occurred that showed the awfulness of radiation to the human body. The effects were documented in detail. But keep in mind this is the Soviet Union they did t communicate with us in the US at all… they probably also had smaller accidents though.
I am almost positive US shared pretty much all info on radiation sickness effects with the USSR as part of the International Atomic Energy Agency starting in 1957. And the Soviets had spies all throughout the US atomic program right from the start, so they knew about all of the early US accidents one way or the other.
@@iKvetch558 the titan missle museum in Tucson is so cool to visit… the silo and missle is still there and u can stand at its base. Feels like traveling back to the 60s…Star Trek first contact was filmed there
The USSR also had a smaller nuclear accident in the 70s, that they covered up.
@@iKvetch558 problem is the government suppressed the info about from its public. When chernobyl occured they removed all material and information about radiation. People knew it was some sort of illness but its true nature was not common knowledge, especially regarding how to deal with it. That cost a lot of lives.
There's a book "Voices of Chernobyl" . It was used as one of the sources for the plot of this movie
Yes you can wash of radiation to an extent. Any radioactive particles that have bonded to dirt and dust an be washed off
Here in the USA we should have put up statues to the three workers who went into the water. We should have named high schools after them. They weren't just Russian heroes they were heroes for the whole world. Had they failed, Europe would have died.
Guys did you recon the Dude at the Minsk Institute? Yeah " Mr. Footfetish" Larrys Strong from House of the Dragon. :D
And Maester Luwin as the guy that wanted to close off the city then was seen on the bus evacuating.
Yeah i wrote that in the comment section in the first episode. Later on in the show there are two other GOT Characters to be seen ;-)@@carriesmith742
The good reaction is not to talk in good moments in movie, but listening... and talking after that...
Guys, in 1986 it was not Russia, but USSR, which included 15 republics (including Russia, Ukraine and Belarus), that are 15 independent countries now.
Sophie's outfit is a look and i love it
Can't wait for you to learn more about this from watching the show 👌 The politic and society in that soviet time was something... 🤪
Chernobyl taught the world valuable lessons. It happened. The least we could do was learn from it
I wish sophie would at least educate herself on the basic history of the USSR and basic science. Listening to jer say all this wrong i fo and opinions is so frustrating
yeah and unfortunately many other reaction channels are the same, almost none have any clue.
@@BlackDeathThrash most have at least a hint of it, but not this one
You don't wash off the radiation, you wash off all the tiny little irradiated particles that carry it around.
Those radioactive particles are basically tiny little atoms blasting through almost everything, including your body, even your genetic makeup, destroying it in the process. And water is kinda important because you want to cool the reaction down to prevent a meltdown.
that ending is crazy
The helicopter crashed not due to radiation; the pilot didn't see the crane and the rotor blades got tangled in the cables. This is a real story, but it happened half a year after the accident, when the fire in the reactor was extinguished. The helicopter crashed into the turbine hall, where it is "buried"
The army general in this stole the episode for me il do it myself what a legend
May I recommend a new show for you guys?
Why we say stuff like " Why you do this....why do that...." in a rhetorical critical tone?
without backing it up with what you would do instead.(better or worse)? Why wash off the dust and particles on the suit? Seems logical. But you don't see it so it's comes out critical and rhetorical while he busts out laughing.
I dont give a shit about critiquing Soviet Ukraine (you clearly understand what that is wirh your top notch American education..), but at least offer up what youd do so different so you dont look like an arm chair general, a hindsight hero. Thats not you. It is very important to understand why, rather than just judge and ignore thought process that are there....but you dont see. Like why he washed after cleaning. Offer up a suggestion as to what else shpuld be done if its rhetorical. Just off putting and very North American.
Appreciate it but damn.
The thing is, we don’t know too much about atomic physics, let alone the different kinds of radiation.
When it’s covered in high school most kids tune out and think it’s boring. Until people see a show like this and realize it actually affects their lives.
The 3 workers who volunteered to do the water pumps all survived 2 still alive when this was made, also i worked out 400 ruples was about 300 dollars i found out 1 ruple was equal to 0.62 dollars
400 Km is around 250 miles.
400 rubles (in 1986) was ~$650 USD. That'd be a nice chunk of change (especially in the USSR back then) but not alot when you consider what those fellas were being asked to do.
I’m from Ireland and I still have the old box of iodine tablets that the government issued at this time, parents were freaked by this whole thing but I was too young to get it.
I really like your reactions, keep them coming
You might even say they're... nuclear reactions. 😆
They weren't using soap and water they were using a type of chemical to remove the radioactive dust.
Its crazy because we had radioctive sheep that had to be culled here where i am in north wales after chernobyl
Man, people misguided you on what was known or not known. Yes, Chernobyl's explosion was the first of its kind, but radiation accidents had happened a lot before Chernobyl, and they knew plenty--they as in all the major world powers--what would and wouldn't work in a lot of cases. The problem wasn't that, it was that a lot of it wasn't enough. Also, you CAN wash off radiation, depending on the kind it is.
For my fellow 'murkins unfamiliar with the metric system, 400km is about the length of Kansas.
its dosimeter, not decimeter :D
you actually kinda can "wash of" radiation ( the radiated particles), but with the penetration you where right.
Sophie, its not just you. The whole world wishes we had taken the time to understand nuclear power and its true costs before jumping into its use
We did. Even back then. The first nuclear reactor was built by a legendary figure in Physics, Wolfgang Pauli. The reason we could even build a reactor is because our understanding of the atom and radiation was complete enough to turn it into a machine.
It's just that USSR ignored a lot of the things most physicists agreed on vehemently should not be ignored. Deviation from procedure, graphite tipped control rods, positive void coefficient, no external containment structure and a Government too pussy to be seen as weak.
The helicopter hit a cable and that's how it crashed. They recently debunked that recently but it and everyone on it would have deteriorated quite soon after.
After the helicopters landed the grass under it was yellow the next morning.
400 kilometers is about 250 miles… 1 mile is about 1.6 kilometers….and back then in 1986 400 rubles was about $645 In US currency. Oppenheimer is credited with being the man who invented the first nuclear bomb here in America (the first ever in the history of mankind) it was of the utmost secrecy at the time and was called the Manhattan Project….the 2 nuclear bombs we dropped on Japan to end WW2 was a direct result of the Manhattan Project….current nuclear bombs are WAAAYY more powerful than those we dropped on Japan back then.
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Think you both could benefit from reading up and educating yourselves on the cold war and the political machine of the Soviet union
The girlboss is a Holloywood invention. There was no female hero in real life.
Back in 1986, 1 US dollar was roughly equivalent to 0.62 rubles. This means that 400 rubles would have been worth approximately $645 USD at that time.
Because all prices in the USSR were fixed by the state, direct conversions between ruble and dollar are not correct. Based on the purchasing power of the ruble back then, my understanding is that 400 of them is more like $10k nowadays...it was equivalent to a month of pay for a very high skilled/well paid person.
in the Soviet Union it only took 15 cents to buy a metro ticket, 5 cents for a bus ticket. and 1 ruble can buy 1kg of bread
The helicopter crash happened, but it happened 6 months after the explosion. And it hit the crane cables, and ripped the blades off and grashed on the building. There is a upclose video of it on youtube. The radiation had nothing to do with it, and wouldnt do that to a helicopter or even that fast
Women in scientific fields in the Soviet Union (and really in society in general) were treated closer to equals to men than in Western nations, the US in particular.
Yes, water is a conductor. It can create reactions, like temperature rise
In an RBMK Reactor, which is what Chernobyl was, water was used as a coolant not a conductor. That is the reason they thought they could drown a “fire” with water. The issue was that the core broke. They had to stop that core from burning so they drowned it in sand and boron. This created a lava, which still had nuclear properties. It is almost disrespectful to call it a lava, because it is still hot today. If that were to hit the water basin the explosion wouldn’t be nuclear it would’ve been thermal, as in the instant boiling of the entire basin leading to expanding and immediate explosion. That would’ve wiped out the entire east side of Europe and West side of Russia. They saved so many lives, but they also caused every death and radiation cancer death- because they allowed that reactor to run with this major flaw.
you 2 are pretty clueless so don't be making judgements too quickly
THIS is a real life horror
Awesome reaction 💯
Yes people was calm cuz Union Soviet is a very very strict dictature everyone need to listen the party, since 1917
Dyalov is still my man!!!!
Young people know more about Taylor Swift's waist size than radiation.
And why wouldn’t they? Radiation generally is not a significant part of daily life or discussion. X-rays? Radon? UV radiation? That’s about it and only one of those is frequent in life.
@14:30 radiation didn't take down the helicopter, the rotor hit the crane cable
Yes it did
Guys, check a crazy unbelievable true story American Made, Tom Cruise was awesome in it plus he actually flew the planes.
The helicopter hit a cable.
Baranov was never shown
Is pronounced dose sim a tor
we be scientists an sheeit
400 Kilometers = about 250 Miles. Pretty far.
Mate does she ever stop talking 😂
would be ok if she was saying stuff that was correct and showed she knew what she was talking about
that show was insanely great...crazy how they kept so much secret from the citizens
This show was a great representation of how a communist government works.
You should react to the movie THE IMPOSSIBLE with Tom Holland.
Huh
Blacks doesn't like socialism? This is cute.
Clown
Typical comment...copy/pasted here...
In this episode, there were a few things the makers of the show changed for various reasons. For one thing, the character who said that they should close off the city in the first episode and is evacuated in this one, did not exist...he was added for dramatic purposes. Also, the helicopter crash did not happen so soon after the explosion...it really happened months later in October, 1986, and had little to do with radiation. As I mentioned in my comment to episode 1, once you are done with the series, the History vs Hollywood article on the show is a must read.
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Great! It is very interesting to see your joint detailed reaction to the film Robocop 1987. This is a cool movie 👍🔥🦾