Irish Defence Forces 24 hour ration pack 24 hour field test....Well almost
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- I decide to test a 24 hour ration pack by spending 24 hours (almost) outdoors and living off the contents. Some parts of it were lovely, some all right, and some were bloody awful. Join me on my epic adventure :-) After some reflection I have decided that these rations were loaded with not the best tasting sugar. Some decent chocolate would be more preferable to the sickly drinks and sesame seed bar. The mains were very processed and if I had bought them in a shop I would not buy there again!
Awesome review Vinnie, I think that's the first time I've seen anyone on TH-cam actually eat a 24 hr ration pack over a 24 hr period. Loved how lazy Dyson was in the morning, he did not want to get up :) Thanks for sharing. Atb Shaun
BASHA Dweller well I often thought about doing a rat pack review and it always seemed to be the logical way to do it Shaun. You should try to get the little fecker to go out to the toilet when it is raining!
From my experience of eating the British rations as a cadet there are some menu options that are far better than others, there was always a lot of barter and trade going on. The Tabasco sauce was used as a shower gel additive as a prank, with predictable results and were confiscated after that. There are a few tricks with ration packs, such as putting the chocolate bar in your jacket so it melts and you have a chocolate spread for your biscuits. Probably the thing that sticks out the most is how incredibly good the hot chocolate was out in the field, when cold and exhausted, but when i opened a spare at home it was barely drinkable.
I never thought of tabasco sauce in shower gel🤔 Of course I would never do that 😈. Actually that ration could have done with some chocolate. From looking at other reviews the modern packs seem to exclude chocolate. Maybe because of operating in hot countries. Overall I thought it was very processed and not exactly great food. Thanks Ben.
what we do with the pure chocolate bar is throw them in boiling coffee and mix or the kendel mint cake
@@murf503 Hi Murf. I take it you are in the forces. Do you if the Kendal mint cake is still available in rations? I have friends that were in the forces and they were always going on about the Kendal mint cake.
This is a refreshing watch while on an overnighter with the dog in a hammock 😅
im telling you one thing that tipp accent is gold you have a narrators voice and from one irishman to another i hope to bump into ya in the woods someday for a cuppa tea and a chat.
Very interesting video. Reminds me when I was in the Swedish army doing my service. All the best Vinnie.
Thanks very much David 👍
Yes! A new episode of Vinniesdayoff & in full feature length, what a great weekend treat! Time to grab a pint and enjoy my favorite youtuber.
The Bearded Viking high praise indeed my bearded friend! Thank you
WE HAD A YORKIE BAR INCLUDED IN THE OLD RATS BACK IN THE 90S,WAS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO GO
I too am a chocaholic
Hi Vinnie, the DPM camo respirator (gasmask) case is British Army issue, for the S10 respirator. I am looking to get one too to fit in a brew kit / cooking kit and poncho and other bits and bobs to go into the woods in the daytime, I can sling it on the front handlebars of my mountain bike I reckon and at only around £5 or £6 online plus £3 for delivery I reckon it will be an economic alternative to some expensive bike bag, plus I can use it like a satchel or put it on a belt if I'm walking.
(Edit) I had already liked your vid when I wrote the above but when I saw your shelter prepared for the night at 41:20 I was so impressed by that and the comments you made that I just had to subscribe too.
Hi Simon. Thanks very much for watching and for subscribing ! 👍🙂 Thanks for the info on the bag too. Bags like that are just so handy and like you say they are cheap to buy.
Great comprehensive review in some beautiful locations well made👍
Thanks very much Sam, I must have a look at your world of rations!
I'm near Dundrum in Tipp. I will have a good look at that video about the stone. I will have to travel out because it is all soft crumbly stuff near me. A simmer ring is used to cover the jets and will reduce the heat. The alcohol stoves can overturn and spill burning alcohol everywhere so mind yourself that way
Are you local?
I'm In Laois where do you practice bushcraft /survival skills
If you crack off or scrape off a little pile from those hex cubes, it will light a lot faster with those matches. Then you can start the rest of the cube from the burning pile. I have a couple of those folding Esbit stoves that burn the Esbit cubes. The thing I don't like about them is the fumes often contaminate the taste of the food unless your cooking container is well-covered. They are handy though. I believe that somewhere I have an Esbit cook kit that includes a windscreen that holds the fuel cube, plus a nesting cooking container with a tight-fitting lid. The really good thing about this little kit is that it also holds one of the Trangia alcohol burners. It lasts longer than an Esbit cube, plus there's no Esbit fumes to taint the food.
Thanks for the tip. I much prefer my homemade alcohol stoves. They are cheap (free) and I can get alcohol in any paint shop or hardware. 500mls costs 3.50 Euros and will do a lot of cooking.
@@vinniesdayoff3968 The best, cleanest, hottest burning alcohol fuel I've found is the yellow bottles of HEET fuel additive you can get at most of the auto parts stores around here (West Coast US).
@@eqlzr2 I was going to say it's not available here but now that I think of it I never looked for it. Off to the auto parts store! Don't spare the horses!
those stoves tank you again for some reason im watching your videos over again learning stuff .
Liked that this was not just a ration review but a camp out too. In the US we do not have 24 hour rations just a one meal MREs. Would have to carry three of them to cover 24 hours. Thanks for sharing. I also like to see what other military's put in their rations.
Thanks very much indeed. You have to roll the dice to see what you get :-)
I have been anxiously awaiting your next video... Was expecting a review of the Hayin Helper.... This was a great video... Cant beat dirt time a food!!!
Hi JH, Hayen' helper coming in the near future. 👍
I had the ration video in the works for a long time. I wanted to get it done but had to wait for a break in the weather. Normal services will be resumed shortly
vinniesdayoff I'm not complaining..that was an awesome video.. I envy the access you have to the countryside.. I love your real and honest presentations. Keep up the awesome work.
Vinnie you've given away our one weakness. Lack of teabags! I drink a lot of it. Great video!👍
Thanks Eddie ☕️☕️☕️☕️I got tea man!😎
Nice video man. I enjoyed it. I like your way with words.
Thanks. I'm very glad you enjoyed it. I like your way with words too :-)
i turned me eye at the thought of one of those homemade alcohol stoves because i didnt think they worked that just saved me a fortune seeing you whip out one.
the alcohol stoves work well for stuff that cooks quickly like some types of rice, or anything that just needs boiling water. You would not be boiling spuds or stew. They are a bit too hot for frying on without a simmer ring. I love them because they are very light (and free) and they just work. I don't know about the Tipp accent. I have to try and pronounce things correctly or nobody would understand me:-)
well i can tell you ill be putting one together i dont know what you mean by a simmer ring i assume its a stand of some sort raising the pot higher from the flame ill look into it thanks.
Enjoyed this video very much
Thank you very much sir 👍
Excellent review Vinnie, aye its often a love/hate relationship with what menu you get ! I recently used one on an overnight kayak trip the main meal being Moroccan bean stew which was grand. Hope all is well. Thanks again for sharing. All the best from Scotland. Garry
Ta Garry, Moroccan bean stew doesn't sound too bad! saw your email too.
Feature length Vinnie's day off!!!! absolutely loved the video my man but that shite looks like punishment, I'd not complain about the food if I was being shot at as I'd be too busy complaining about the noise.
It's dodgy putting up long videos because it puts some folk off apparently but I loved every second, I've been sat on a 15L tub of glue for nearly an hour watching.
You know for a tubby bastard like me I'd be interested in some Vinnie cooks 5 star Bacon and rabbit stew.
Please thank the the ladies for the music, they did an excellent job.
Thank you Turbo, you are a gentleman!
Don't say that, people will think you dishonest!
A diamond in the rough? :-)
Great video, an honest review of real world MRE's. Dyson steals the show!
Thank you Richard, the little buggar generally does!
Great film Vinnie,you say you can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear but you managed ....Also nice to see your manor so to speak atb Mick
Thank you Mick. Good to hear from you
Hey brother good to see ya. Good share my friend and that is a good pack. I'll be getting some if those. I enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much Mickey. Not everything was tasty unfortunately.
Hi Vinnie only just found your vids, cracking stuff all the best Will🍻
thank you Will glad you like it
For some reason I never got the notification for this video, I found it by accident.
Another good video, you have a style all your own Vinnie, very watchable.
The ration packs look a lot better to carry compared to the '70s and '80s ones, we had tins of food in the '70s but they were mostly edible.
Two of the things we had in them were hard tack biscuits and oatmeal blocks, crushing a couple of the biscuits with an oatmeal block, a packet of milk powder and a sugar, made a porridge for breakfast that had enough calories to keep you going most of the day, maybe not too healthy in modern terms but good if you had no u=idea when your next grub stop would be.
I can see the tea situation is no better either, I seem to remember two or three tea bags (unfortunately not Barry's) and one sachet of nescafe instant coffee that was so small it wouldn't make decent coffee in an egg cup.
I'm not much of a dog man but Dyson is a great little Jack, everything you want from a dog in a package the size of a large cat.
If you are still trying different knives I can recommend the Rough Rider Bow Trapper, I bought one a while ago for $14, it's quite big and very sturdy a really good slip joint with carbon blades.
Hi Chris, good to hear from you. I suppose it is an impossible task to cater for all the different tastes, likes and dislikes that people have so making rations is tricky. I love the history of rations and how they coped in years gone by. Dyson is the third Jack Russell I have had in my lifetime and the other two were two of the best little dogs I have had the privilege of being owned by :-) They know how to manipulate you. A good Jack Russell is a superb watch dog, a great friend and they can hunt anything that walks the earth. They "box clever" too and take care of themselves, although Dyson is a bit of a kamikize. Thanks for letting me know about the carbon Rough Riders. I had not spotted those. Heinnie Haynes will be getting an order now! I thought about your seasoned hazel sticks when I was making that video. If I was organised I would have brought one of my own. A stick makes such a difference when you are on rough ground. Did you move to Ibiza yet Chris?
Hi Vinnie. I'm moving from Ibiza, to the mainland.
I retired on April 30th, now I'm discovering how much junk I have accumulated in 15 years here, trying to find a 20 cubic metre van to hire.
The house I'm moving to is in the sticks so I am thinking about buying a dog, Border Collie and Jack Russel are the two that I would consider as they are such good dogs, the Jack may be a better bet for the summer heat with a thinner coat but I won't decide until I am settled in.
I know a lot of people these days don't like carbon blades but the rough riders all seem to be titanium coated which helps with the staining.
I find I quite like the tangy taste of carbon steel when you cut something like an apple with it, I know the edges on mine are incredibly sharp but I did have to take a burr off of one of the blades, I'm not complaining for the price and it's my current favourite pocket knife.
Rodger Chris, I had to get it backwards. If you like borders maybe a kelpie would suit you in the heat. I never had one but they are getting more common here. From what I have heard you need to keep them busy as they are very driven. I wish you the best of luck in your new home. I have ordered the bow trapper. It is a good looking knife and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
The Kelpie is interesting, I think I have heard the name before but didn't really know what it was.
I had to Google it, they are a good looking dog and you are right they need to be kept on the go, I couldn't find any in Spain but there are a few breeders in the UK and Ireland.
I do have a contact in Kent for a shepherd who breed Borders and occasionally he has the odd short hair, the good thing is all his pups are from working stock which I think is better.
I think you'll like the Bow Trapper, because of the handle shape there is more room for a chunkier blade, I have a traditional RR Trapper and the Bow blades probably have getting on for 50% more meat, making it a real working knife.
I like the black micarta covers as well, not a tactical scary knife just a good strong pocket knife.
I will look into Kelpies a bit more, thanks for the suggestion Vinnie.
Cheers. Chris
We always had collies at home Chris although I never had one of my own. I was often tempted to get a good working bred collie preferably a cattle dog (they're bolder and more "saucy") but they need company and something to keep them busy and it would not be fair to leave them in boredom while I was working. Like you I want a short hair just because it would be easier for an indoor dog. There is no comparison between any dog from any working breed and Kennel club pedigree breeds. The kennel clubs have taken many once magnificent breeds and reduced them to misshapen dribbling fools
Nice review Vinnie. Thanks.
You are very welcome Alain. Thanks for watching.
That Looks like my old school bag good video nicely done it is hard to beat a bole of porridge to start they day off Odlems organic large flakes is the best
Hi Macartan. Thank you for your comment and for watching . Yup, I love the porridge too. (With honey, a few raisins and blueberries 😋)
Exceptional review! Dyson had enough of the ordeal though, lol! I'd just forget that stuff and bring along Coke and hotdogs/buns and maybe dried apricots for extra energy.
I think you might be a sage Joe. That food was very processed and like you say you would be happier with ordinary food that you like. You have to ruin everything though! You never learn!
LOL!
Great vid mate, I just found your channel and subbed, I'm from Dublin, what's the best place to order MREs for Ireland?
Hi Wayne. I am sorry but TH-cam didn't notify me about your comment and I have only spotted it now. My apologies. I have found the easiest place to get them from is ebay although it is very expensive to ger anything from the UK these days
Thats a cool review Vinnie , hey I always say hot sauce improves anything lol
Thank you bud! Pity I didn't have more hot sauce, I had to choke that stuff down. Thanks for watching.
Haha salt and pepper helps too haha
your not the only man with a burn in his haversack from a battery i dont but iv seen many a hole like that i dont lamp anymore im waiting to get a gun those haversacks are nice i have an irish navy rucksack for me outings right yoke so it is ill have an IDF one soon hopefully if me mate keeps it for me.
i can understand the cheering up part it can be boring alone in the woods
Im craving a new Vinnie video!! Anything in the works?
Hi JH. I'm waiting for the weather to pick up. Wet and grey at the moment
Whow thanks man 😊😃
Many try but few succeed 😂
😂😂👍
Excellent , have you ever tried the Swedish Army cooking system? It’s quite excellent .
I have one Hugh. It is cool but a bit heavy (Two pounds if I remember correctly) It is a proper bomb proof kit but my most often used pot is an old stainless steel mug that I got from my mother with a top from a large can as a lid. The little homemade alcohol stoves are very light and work fine and I like making them too. Thanks very much for watching and your comment
vinniesdayoff
I just got a U.S Military canteen, dated 1943, stainless Steel, have to say the mug for it is excellent and so is the Canteen.
Heating Rations as you are is fine. With the Swedish system or any of the European Billy cans. You can actually cook dishes as such. As you know that’s not ideal with Military needs. But if your staying out for longer, cooking what you hunt and shoot is better. But that’s comparing an Apple to an Orange. Enjoyed your review very much.
@@hughhughp68 Thanks Hugh, The Swedish kit would be ideal for cooking a proper stew
vinniesdayoff
Yes but the problem with ‘ proper cooking’ in an Military situation is you have to clean out the mess tins. You may not be able to do that in a real situation. If you couldn’t, then hygiene becomes an issue.
If your out hunting for the day, better to use ration packs.
Wishing you all the best.
You should be a food connoisseur!
Eh? I thought I was :-(
😂😂😂 hidden woodsman in crayon !!!
Hey man! I like to be fashionable too! 😀
Thanks Vinnie :). Watching this video makes me wonder about caloric requirements. If you watch any “survival” shows it’s nearly impossible to get what you need to sustain or exceed caloric requirements under the conditions that they are in. You hiked a difficult trail and after adding up the calories in my head, it still didn’t seem like a whole lot. I know you mentioned that you weren’t hungry until later in the evening. Anyhoo, just some thoughts. I wonder what the military considers a healthy caloric intake for active people with boots on the ground?
Hi Wayne, This ration pack had 4,050 calories if I remember correctly. In fairness it is meant to sustain someone doing harder physical exertion than what I was doing. You would have to eat vast quantities of wild food to get that amount of calories. It does also show up a lot of bug out bag videos who only carry two cliff bars for three days bugging out. Seemingly there must be numerous McDonalds along the bug out trails. Three of these ration packs would take up a good deal of space too. Overall, it was high in sugar and the main meals were very processed and if I had bought them in a filling station, for instance, I would not be buying there again! Thanks very much for watching Wayne :-)
i think you are exactly right on the McDonalds remark.... lol Oh, and before i forget, you are one of a very few people to have such beautiful music on your videos, please pass along the compliments to the ladies :)
I like the Townsends youtube channel, and one of the things they did some research on, based off revolutionary journals, was that colonial soldiers were given 1lb of meat per day; im not sure about the other staples. Jon Townsend is very studious about accuracy of what he puts on his channel and utilizes personal journals from the time period. Its an interesting channel. the video about the rations is th-cam.com/video/2pUHi3ZV4r0/w-d-xo.html. If you ever want to read any journals, or anything else, there is a free online site, archive.org, and you can limit your searches to any kind of topic, author, time period or publish date. for instance, archive.org/details/JournalOfNicholasCresswell17741777 is a journal of a 24 year old man who traveled from england to america and his experiences were captured in his journal. His observations were uncanny, he was a loyalist(which is the main reason he went back to England), he witnessed slavery in both america and in barbados, where slave ships came in, he witnessed, and experienced sickness, indian lifestyle, life on the edge of the frontier, and colonial life. You can get information of documents published as far back as you can imagine. There are a lot of mountain men, and canadian journals that get very deep into indigenous peoples, their ways, and their relationships with the europeans as they came into the territories. What i like about the journals is similar to what you find on the youtube videos, but minus any novelty and flamboyance. it was real.. and with the journals, you can get it first hand :)
Not to beat a dead horse about the calories and food, but i searched for the journals of lewis and clark. 40 plus or minus guys went on the journey and 6 to 9 people kept journals. the thing that stood out the most to me was the extreem amount of killing of game that went on. they would kill 8 or 10 deer, moose, or bear at a time and it was nearly on a daily basis. they didnt go into deep detail as to how they preserved or kept the meat. but if you imagine a man getting 1-1.5 lbs of meat per day for 40 men, thats 40-60lbs of meat per day. so 70% of a full animal is the field dressed weight, but that still contains the bones. and the bonless weight is yet again 70% of the field dressed weight. so for example a 200 lb buck would dress out at 140lbs. then the boneless weight, or edible weight is 98lbs. so 98lbs of meat could feed the men for 2 days. but if you read the journals, you see them taking way more animals than that along the trip. oh well, ive probably bored anyone reading this to tears... have a good one :)
Far from boring Wayne. I love that kind of material. I like Mr Townsend's channel too. I was not aware of the link to the journals and I will be all over them like a rash! The account of the Lewis and Clarke expedition killing so much game reminded me of an account I read about a German man who traveled to America in the early days of the nation. He would kill a deer or bear and take only the choice cuts or enough meat for a few days. It seems abhorrent to us now but when you think about it he had no refrigerator and he was traveling fast and light. He had no way to keep the meat from spoiling and did not have time to dry it. Also there was a different attitude towards hunting then. They would shoot game just because they could. Lewis and Clarke probably had no weight limit on the meat ration unlike soldiers for whom the meat would have to be purchased, so they would probably eat all they wanted. They might have collected the hides too to make some cash on. I have some recollection of them returning with fur, correct me if I am wrong. Maybe with us outdoor people, we are still playing adventure stories for boys, and trying to relive the great adventures of the past in our own small way?
@@vinniesdayoff3968 Sorry for replaying to an old comment, but Lewis and Clark's expedition is known for eating up to 4.5kg of meat per day per person. It says how hard their labour was...
thats some nice woodland where abouts are you if you dont mind me asking ?
Dont be late..😣😴😴😴
Vinnie very good video thanks Vinnie how are you getting on with the Buck 110 ? I've been looking at some and maybe I'll get one I've got many Swiss army knife's the work champ is a new one I just got and it's a good size for taking out in the Field the huntsman is my edc the 110 looks like a very strong knife thanks Vinnie
Hi Will. I rate the Buck 110 highly. I didn't show it on the video but I tried it against other knives including an Opinel and it was the best to slice through branches. I was gobsmacked. However I have ordered the drop point version in S30V which is a harder steel. I was kicking myself since that I had not gone for it originally. Will I ever learn? I ordered this knife from DLT Trading
Heya Vinnie, are the Condoms, cigarettes and Tullamore Dew in the 7 Day ration pack?
No Joe ☹️ and they are all things that might be useful 🤔🤔
👍 😉 u really put some effort in ur video's . Would the pack be enough in winter when its cold and wet and u had to push on ? Cos i get the impression that this was just enough for you.
I would say yes it would Ed. There is quite a lot of food in it. It shows how silly many bug out bag videos are with their couple of cliff bars for three days walking. Three of these ration packs would take up a lot of space in a backpack. Also I used nearly six litres of water for cooking , drinking and basic utensil washing (just a rince off) The biggest problem with the rations was the amount of sickly sugary products. A bit of decent chocolate would be much more welcome. I suppose chocolate would be hard to manage in hot climates so they went with sugary drinks instead. Thanks for watching bud 🙂
@@vinniesdayoff3968 we had chocolate in our Belgian ration packs back in the day (the dark, black, hard kind).
Hmmmm! Chocolate 😛
Vinnie what size of dog is dyson, we would love toosend him a gift
He is a Jack Russell that weighs twenty pounds (just over 9 kg). Is that any help?
that pack is missing alot
Well I suppose it is a bit beaten up.
Vinnie, another enjoyable video!
I wasn't able to send you a knife, but could I send you a US MRE? I can give you a choice between two 2017 MRE's: Menu No. 7 (Brisket Entrée, a bit pretentious, I think) or Menu No. 8 (Meatballs in Marinara Sauce--Oh! The audacity!). Photo available upon request. I believe I also have a 2017 Vegetarian MRE if that is the sort of thing that would interest you. Please let me know if you are still interested in military rations or have been cured. If you are brave enough...I'm more than happy to ship you one. Oh, MRE's are required to be good and edible for 5 years, so you are well within the safe consumption date. I myself have eaten some, provided by my dear Uncle Sam, that were much, much older, and lived to eat another day.
You will have to twist my arm Jack! Well maybe you won't have to twist very hard. I would like to try a US MRE. I have a French 24 hour ration pack that I was getting ready to make a video on but we are gone back into lock down and I can't travel to the rather beautiful part of Ireland where I planned to make the video
@@vinniesdayoff3968 I wouldn't like to compare a French ration to a US ration, the French know good food! But, still, you are welcome to either the USA No.7 or No. 8 menu. (The cheek of calling it a menu!)
I am sorry for the lockdown. We are having a terrible time with a new surge in Covid cases as well. Don't worry, either MRE will be good for a few years yet.
How do I get an MRE over to you?
@@vinniesdayoff3968 Twisting here with all my might!
Vinnie, I need an email or shipping address. I'm a bit snowed in at the moment (We just got 50cm of snow last night and today), but once the roads are navigable, I'll be perfectly delighted to send you an MRE (not that I wish you any ill....heheheh). So, please, let me know, 2017 Menu No. 7 or Menu No. 8, and where in Eire do I send it? Thank you, Amigo!
One of my replies seems to have disappeared Jack. If you click on my channel and go to "About" you will see my email. Drop me an email and I'll send you my address. I think I would try menu 7, the brisket methinks. Thank you very much sir 👍
@@vinniesdayoff3968 Thanks! email sent!
Pukka rat pack, Vinnie my nephew get me a couple now and then and they are far better that the one I had when I was in the army
Thank you very much Peter. Overall they are not bad at all and if you had a group fellas could swap stuff to suit their tastes, thank you for watching Peter.
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You get the cup for good comments 🏆
U can do it cause cats dont follow you...
Pine wood shelter is really cute
Hey my friend I had to come watch this again. Also I tagged you in my last video I hope you don't mind. Come check it out