I just have to say feeling suicidal is not cowardly, its a response to something so horrendously traumatic. You did the right thing in letting the kids make their own decision to reach out, forcing something on them is never going to work. Especially when it involves going against everything they believe.
Isaac, I remember you well in SLC while I was growing up. I didn’t really know where you ended up, people disappeared so often. Things are so different now for sure. I look forward to reading your book 🙏🏻 Blessings to you in your new journey in life.
This was such a unique video. It seems like most of your other guests seem so happy after leaving the FLDS. The trauma and damage is so evident in this dear man. It’s important to see that this organization destroys lives irrevocably in some ways. We should all have hope, but there is significant damage that may never be healed from. This was an important interview
Good luck, Isaac. I like to hope your book will find its way to your daughter and to where the rest of the still-believing live. Maybe at least one person would be daring enough to read it. At least it will always exist. One day your daughter will have the written record of how much you always loved your family, and it will be a deep comfort to her and to your grandchildren. You have done an amazing thing.
I find it utterly amazing that there are still people following Warren Jeffs. The truth shall set you free but freedom can be a lonely place. Good luck Isaac, look after your mental health. I look forwards to reading your book.
I don't even know what to say… i've been following you guys since the beginning, and i've known Isaac for awhile… Well it was definitely a shocker when i opened TH-cam and saw this today!
I’m not not a blind enthusiast of any religion or government, but the federal government went to Texas and saved many women and children from years of trauma under Jeffs. I feel bad for his distress, but it would be nice to hear an ounce of gratefulness for the rescuing of these innocents when their own people were ineffective or predators!!
I have heard stories of some of these men who became outcasts (especially the elderly men) literally dying of broken hearts. You will be in my prayers Isaac. Your humility and courage to share your story is truly inspiring. I too hope your daughter reads the book and you will be reunited with her. I’m familiar with the Steed family and recognize it in how you articulate yourself. I hope Friends and family will reach out to you so that you will not feel alone in your journey. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I look forward to reading your book and highly recommend you adding an audio book version.
Thank you Isaac for sharing! My heart breaks for your losses but rejoice with you reconnecting with your sons and I believe at some point you will get your daughter back. I’ll be looking for your book.
We often don’t think of the stories from the men’s side, because the FLDS is a patriarchal society that is designed to benefit the men. Warren Jeffs delusions has ruined everything from every side! Good luck, Isaac. I hope your daughter comes around and you find happiness and fulfillment in life. You’ve done everything you could.
Hi dear Melissa & Sam, thanks for this interview with a father, it’s rare to me to hear a father’s perspective, I sometimes feel when people are interviewed how they get worked up when remembering certain aspects and in this episode the pain he describes he’s feeling is so palpable I’d almost touch it He was very talented in telling his story in a way where ai felt I’d envision what he described. I want to congratulate him to his book release 🎊!! And I want to express how much I feel with him and it’s difficult to hear him saying that he’s divorced and why it became that way at least partially, It’s a lot that needs to be processed and I sincerely hope he have someone, (human, animal, - someone safe to vent to, If you read this you probably think “who the heck is this person”, I’m absolutely no one, but your story touched me, and equally as much as I was taught ^to don’t say anything at all, had I nothing nice to say* I’m now trying to get better at *saying, expressing myself when I’ve something nice/caring to say!* || And that’s all there’s to “who I am/who is she”!! 🎶 Thanks for sharing your story I’ll look out for your book (I live in Europe) With Kindness and respect Grace🎶🎭🩰
I didn’t want to get these parts confused hence I decided to separate them by simply making the next one right beneath my first comment, I’ve the story all written down but I figured that I probably should take a another thinking route beforehand. It’s not special but a tiny part is challenging for me so I’ll try and write why I romanticized (more Sam’s way of growing up) and why that made sense to me. But I’ve read through my script and I definitely 80% - 100% the time is dodging to get from A to B in a straight line which shouldn’t be this difficult - If I were ready! I’ll allow myself a little bit time and I’ll either replace this comment with the actual one or, delete this one in its entirety. (Thanks for your understanding) With utmost respect to the both of you and for all your guests!! ❤️🎶🩰
That Mormon/Christian moral and demeanor foundation that was in the people from the 50's on, you can still see it in Isaac and the sons and grandsons of Woodruff and all the others. Their intent is right, and never changes. We are born with it, and it will be in us forever.
My heart goes out to you Isaac, hang in there friend, God sees your heart & you’re decency, he is working behind the scenes in your favour & he loves you more than you could ever imagine, Hang in there and you will see Gods favour friend 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💙
Yes, makes one wonder about what's going on in Texas/Utah and wherever else regarding these children. CPS 100% should be, and is absolutely correct, in being very cautious with putting children back with anyone who has obviously been in a cult okay with covering up child abuse and marrying off their teenage daughters, which is also abusive. Let's just be real about that. Being angry at social services for trying to help children is quite misplaced, IMO. Especially when one is also angry at the cult for the brainwashing that members set their own child up in. Lots of therapy is needed.
@@vjs4539 That by no means indicates that cps was wrong. That whole situation was an obvious hot mess, hoards of undocumented children to start with. There are many, many cases of abuse (which people who have suffered have come forward about) and probably some of those children went right back into unsavory situations. We ALL should be concerned about that. Don't forget - murderers get off/go free because of mistakes made in the court process, and because of lack of evidence. Those types of situations do not = innocent.
Isaac - I’m so sorry that Warren Jeffs lied and was so evil to you and your family. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be told to simply forget your husband and here’s husband no. 2 or 3 etc. It’s obscene and my heart goes out to you and your wives and children. I’m sorry the book has been instrumental in splitting up your new wife and yourself. For me - God equals love. Warren’s actions were selfish and evil in the extreme. God bless you Isaac. Much love as you go forward. ❤️❤️❤️
Perhaps consider an interview with a person that lived under Winston Blackmore, the bishop of Bountiful in Canada.,, oh, just searched Blackmore and it appears there is an additional one on the scene, a James Oler.
I know, I understand where you are coming from as I felt the same. Later in the video he said Warren was morally wrong & unclean. So if you compare that maybe you can get an idea.
@@bridgwll I would, except that comment came immediately following his statements regarding how idyllic and wonderful his childhood in a polygamist cult was. I didn't want to be lectured on moral cleanliness by a man who apparently idolized that childhood. So I stopped listening.
@@bridgwll I would, except that comment came immediately following his statements regarding how idyllic and wonderful his childhood in a polygamist cult was. I didn't want to be lectured on moral cleanliness by a man who apparently idolized that childhood. So I stopped listening.
@@lisabobanhe’s doing anything but lecturing. He’s merely telling his story according to his experience. I totally understand what he’s saying. You don’t have to agree, but that’s how he feels.
Many of us come here to educate ourselves. Saying if you don't know what morally clean means, you need to learn more was obnoxious. Stopped watching there because it made this man seem sanctimonious.
Yes it was but he's also telling his story from his perspective. He's changing and growing just like you are. Just because he's not in the same space you are, or may never be, doesn't mean that his story isn't worth listening to.
It would be helpful if you asked more open-ended questions. Your questions are longer than your guest- speakers answer. How about ‘ what did you do next?’, ‘what were you thinking?’ ‘ did you know such and such would happen?’ Overall you are original and excellent, but I want to know what your guest thinks is important!!
I understand his feelings towards CPS, but i hope he understands how difficult it was for them to work out which of the men were safe for the children to be around and which had been going along with Warren's abuses. Also why did he want full custody of his children, when they hadn't been with him for so many years?! Where was their mother? She must have been devastated to losr them at that time.
Yes, makes one wonder about what's going on in Texas/Utah and wherever else regarding these children. CPS 100% should be, and is absolutely correct, in being very cautious with putting children back with anyone who has obviously been in a cult okay with covering up child abuse and marrying off their teenage daughters, which is also abusive. Let's just be real about that. Being angry at social services for trying to help children is quite misplaced, IMO. Especially when one is also angry at the cult for the brainwashing that members set their own child up in. Lots of therapy is needed.
@CarolLady I had to go searching to attempt to find the post I made ages ago that I assume you were responding to? This I suppose? "That by no means indicates that cps was wrong. That whole situation was an obvious hot mess, hoards of undocumented children to start with. There are many, many cases of abuse (which people who have suffered have come forward about) and probably some of those children went right back into unsavory situations. We ALL should be concerned about that." Honestly, with the way the FLDS has been playing games with children and entire families for years moving kids around, taking them from their parents and in some cases placing them in situations that most of us would consider horrifying, I'm not completely impressed with the statement of how CPS "traumatised" hundreds of children. Those games are still being played out within the still practicing members - thus a bunch of missing children that are currently being looked for. When there was evidence found in Texas of what exactly your prophet was doing with little girls - of course the authorities stepped in. That kind of stuff is simply sick and wrong. No other way to look at it. Look at where the real problem lies.
How traumatic it was for so many people what Warren did I’m speechless and shocked.. religion should be a direct line between you and God there shouldn’t be a man to dictate how you can communicate with or worship God or into heaven etc.. Second, I’m so sorry you and your family had to go through this very painful and traumatic time.. another thing mentioned was modesty and yes, it isn’t shameful or absurd to be modest it’s admirable..
If they were all adults making this decision without the brainwashing of a cult included - then fine, go be freaky. But you start trying to make this somehow as a way to 'get to heaven' and start trafficking children into this lifestyle - it's a problem, and it isn't moral by any stretch of the imagination.
Now Lyle Jeffs is in the same boat because he had his family taken away from him, and helaman took one of Lyle's underage daughters somewhere. They won't tell him where she is.
I found it odd when they asked him how he could survive his wives being "given" to other men. And I found his answer odd as well, "it wasn't survivable." While all these wives survived their husbands being with other women right in their face for generations. After watching a bunch of these videos it has become clear to me that the major faith breaking incident occurred when what all women in this religion faced began happening to men as well. I see that there were differences, of course. These men were made to feel as though they were no longer worthy because of something they had "done." But women were subhuman from birth so...I don't know. Perhaps when you're prepared to live in hell, it's easier to do than when it's randomly thrust upon you.
There's no such thing as "living polygamy right" as the concept at it's core is misogynistic and harmful to women. Having multiple wives is not an example of moral cleanliness.
I just have to say feeling suicidal is not cowardly, its a response to something so horrendously traumatic. You did the right thing in letting the kids make their own decision to reach out, forcing something on them is never going to work. Especially when it involves going against everything they believe.
It’s not often we have heard from the fathers….who lost everything
You should check out their interview with Shem Fischer as well!
Isaac, I remember you well in SLC while I was growing up. I didn’t really know where you ended up, people disappeared so often. Things are so different now for sure. I look forward to reading your book 🙏🏻 Blessings to you in your new journey in life.
This was such a unique video. It seems like most of your other guests seem so happy after leaving the FLDS. The trauma and damage is so evident in this dear man. It’s important to see that this organization destroys lives irrevocably in some ways. We should all have hope, but there is significant damage that may never be healed from. This was an important interview
Good luck, Isaac. I like to hope your book will find its way to your daughter and to where the rest of the still-believing live. Maybe at least one person would be daring enough to read it. At least it will always exist. One day your daughter will have the written record of how much you always loved your family, and it will be a deep comfort to her and to your grandchildren. You have done an amazing thing.
How deeply moving his story is. I’m so sad for what he has gone through. What a dear man. Blessings on him and his family.
I find it utterly amazing that there are still people following Warren Jeffs. The truth shall set you free but freedom can be a lonely place. Good luck Isaac, look after your mental health. I look forwards to reading your book.
Prayed that all your children will be returned to your loving embrace ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
Melissa, I was wondering exactly what you asked about-if it was when Warren was on the run. You two have become top notch interviewers.
Thank you for sharing your story Isaac. Your bravery and strength is so admirable ❤
What a beautiful interview. Isaac story is heartbreaking and sweet, all wrapped in one. I'm praying for him and the rest of his family.
I don't even know what to say… i've been following you guys since the beginning, and i've known Isaac for awhile…
Well it was definitely a shocker when i opened TH-cam and saw this today!
Lyle told that to every kid who's mom or dad came back to get them. "Give them hell" was his exact words.
Didn't Lyle finally get his as* kicked out, too? So fitting for such a sc*mbag!
Isaac stay true to Jesus & keep building your personal relationship with Him. Thank you for sharing your personal life. 💜
You guys are so beautiful! Don't know if you're matching on purpose but it sure is cute! Thank you for all you do!
Just bought Isaac’s book and looking forward to reading it. Thank you for sharing his heartbreaking story.
I’m not not a blind enthusiast of any religion or government, but the federal government went to Texas and saved many women and children from years of trauma under Jeffs. I feel bad for his distress, but it would be nice to hear an ounce of gratefulness for the rescuing of these innocents when their own people were ineffective or predators!!
I have heard stories of some of these men who became outcasts (especially the elderly men) literally dying of broken hearts. You will be in my prayers Isaac. Your humility and courage to share your story is truly inspiring. I too hope your daughter reads the book and you will be reunited with her. I’m familiar with the Steed family and recognize it in how you articulate yourself. I hope Friends and family will reach out to you so that you will not feel alone in your journey. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I look forward to reading your book and highly recommend you adding an audio book version.
Thank you Isaac for sharing! My heart breaks for your losses but rejoice with you reconnecting with your sons and I believe at some point you will get your daughter back. I’ll be looking for your book.
I just saw the title of this and am very excited to watch it. Good job on getting this fellow on your show!!
We often don’t think of the stories from the men’s side, because the FLDS is a patriarchal society that is designed to benefit the men. Warren Jeffs delusions has ruined everything from every side! Good luck, Isaac. I hope your daughter comes around and you find happiness and fulfillment in life. You’ve done everything you could.
GOD will bless you for the cross you have carried Issac 💖🙏
Hi dear Melissa & Sam, thanks for this interview with a father, it’s rare to me to hear a father’s perspective, I sometimes feel when people are interviewed how they get worked up when remembering certain aspects and in this episode the pain he describes he’s feeling is so palpable I’d almost touch it He was very talented in telling his story in a way where ai felt I’d envision what he described.
I want to congratulate him to his book release 🎊!! And I want to express how much I feel with him and it’s difficult to hear him saying that he’s divorced and why it became that way at least partially, It’s a lot that needs to be processed and I sincerely hope he have someone, (human, animal, - someone safe to vent to, If you read this you probably think “who the heck is this person”, I’m absolutely no one, but your story touched me, and equally as much as I was taught ^to don’t say anything at all, had I nothing nice to say* I’m now trying to get better at *saying, expressing myself when I’ve something nice/caring to say!* || And that’s all there’s to “who I am/who is she”!! 🎶
Thanks for sharing your story I’ll look out for your book (I live in Europe)
With Kindness and respect Grace🎶🎭🩰
I didn’t want to get these parts confused hence I decided to separate them by simply making the next one right beneath my first comment, I’ve the story all written down but I figured that I probably should take a another thinking route beforehand.
It’s not special but a tiny part is challenging for me so I’ll try and write why I romanticized (more Sam’s way of growing up) and why that made sense to me.
But I’ve read through my script and I definitely 80% - 100% the time is dodging to get from A to B in a straight line which shouldn’t be this difficult - If I were ready!
I’ll allow myself a little bit time and I’ll either replace this comment with the actual one or, delete this one in its entirety.
(Thanks for your understanding)
With utmost respect to the both of you and for all your guests!!
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Thanks to Isaac for sharing such a tender story. Prayers to you.
Thank you so much Issac for sharing your story! I will need to purchase your book! 🙏🙏🙏🙏 that your daughter changes her mind and leaves the FLDS
That Mormon/Christian moral and demeanor foundation that was in the people from the 50's on, you can still see it in Isaac and the sons and grandsons of Woodruff and all the others. Their intent is right, and never changes. We are born with it, and it will be in us forever.
Morals do not belong to people who are Mormon or Christian only. I don’t really understand what you mean by this.
Incredible story 😢prayers you’ll heal and find peace and comfort
Thank you Issac, i am praying for you and your family. And thank you for sharing this story! I cant belive how close you are to 40000 subscirbers!!!!
My heart goes out to you Isaac, hang in there friend, God sees your heart & you’re decency, he is working behind the scenes in your favour & he loves you more than you could ever imagine, Hang in there and you will see Gods favour friend 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💙
I’ve watched Escaping Polygamy and wish I could help anyone who wants help getting free.
Interesting how CPS didn't want to put the kids back into FLDS, then sent them back to their mothers...who were still part of FLDS...
Yes, makes one wonder about what's going on in Texas/Utah and wherever else regarding these children.
CPS 100% should be, and is absolutely correct, in being very cautious with putting children back with anyone who has obviously been in a cult okay with covering up child abuse and marrying off their teenage daughters, which is also abusive. Let's just be real about that.
Being angry at social services for trying to help children is quite misplaced, IMO. Especially when one is also angry at the cult for the brainwashing that members set their own child up in.
Lots of therapy is needed.
Because cps lost the case in the Texas Supreme Court
@@vjs4539 That by no means indicates that cps was wrong. That whole situation was an obvious hot mess, hoards of undocumented children to start with. There are many, many cases of abuse (which people who have suffered have come forward about) and probably some of those children went right back into unsavory situations. We ALL should be concerned about that.
Don't forget - murderers get off/go free because of mistakes made in the court process, and because of lack of evidence. Those types of situations do not = innocent.
Sending support and kindness to him as he heals. Thank you so much to him for being willing to share his story and write his book.
What a compelling title for the book!! Really describes it!!!
Isaac - I’m so sorry that Warren Jeffs lied and was so evil to you and your family. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be told to simply forget your husband and here’s husband no. 2 or 3 etc. It’s obscene and my heart goes out to you and your wives and children. I’m sorry the book has been instrumental in splitting up your new wife and yourself. For me - God equals love. Warren’s actions were selfish and evil in the extreme. God bless you Isaac. Much love as you go forward. ❤️❤️❤️
Perhaps consider an interview with a person that lived under Winston
Blackmore, the bishop of Bountiful in Canada.,, oh, just searched Blackmore and it appears there is an additional one on the scene, a James Oler.
Well, no, I don't necessarily know what you meàn by "morally clean". Maybe don't feel sorry for me but instead explain?
I know, I understand where you are coming from as I felt the same. Later in the video he said Warren was morally wrong & unclean. So if you compare that maybe you can get an idea.
@@bridgwll I would, except that comment came immediately following his statements regarding how idyllic and wonderful his childhood in a polygamist cult was. I didn't want to be lectured on moral cleanliness by a man who apparently idolized that childhood. So I stopped listening.
@@bridgwll I would, except that comment came immediately following his statements regarding how idyllic and wonderful his childhood in a polygamist cult was. I didn't want to be lectured on moral cleanliness by a man who apparently idolized that childhood. So I stopped listening.
@@lisabobanhe’s doing anything but lecturing. He’s merely telling his story according to his experience. I totally understand what he’s saying. You don’t have to agree, but that’s how he feels.
@lisaboban I was raised in this same cult. And I'd choose it a million times over being raised by a modern day leftist.
Many of us come here to educate ourselves.
Saying if you don't know what morally clean means, you need to learn more was obnoxious.
Stopped watching there because it made this man seem sanctimonious.
I agree that this came across as "off" to me as well.... I question the intent here.
Yes it was but he's also telling his story from his perspective. He's changing and growing just like you are. Just because he's not in the same space you are, or may never be, doesn't mean that his story isn't worth listening to.
It would be helpful if you asked more open-ended questions. Your questions are longer than your guest- speakers answer. How about ‘ what did you do next?’, ‘what were you thinking?’ ‘ did you know such and such would happen?’ Overall you are original and excellent, but I want to know what your guest thinks is important!!
I pray God will help & bless you & restore your life
Is this temple in TX built now and being used?
WOW is all I can say.....
Did uall get new equipment? Looking and sounding great. 5x5
Thank you Isaac,, and thank you for’ We can only do what we can do.’
I understand his feelings towards CPS, but i hope he understands how difficult it was for them to work out which of the men were safe for the children to be around and which had been going along with Warren's abuses. Also why did he want full custody of his children, when they hadn't been with him for so many years?! Where was their mother? She must have been devastated to losr them at that time.
Probably because he didn’t want them to continue to be brainwashed. I applaud him for being brave enough.
Yes, makes one wonder about what's going on in Texas/Utah and wherever else regarding these children.
CPS 100% should be, and is absolutely correct, in being very cautious with putting children back with anyone who has obviously been in a cult okay with covering up child abuse and marrying off their teenage daughters, which is also abusive. Let's just be real about that.
Being angry at social services for trying to help children is quite misplaced, IMO. Especially when one is also angry at the cult for the brainwashing that members set their own child up in.
Lots of therapy is needed.
CPS is a very corrupt organization and needs to be shut down
@CarolLady I had to go searching to attempt to find the post I made ages ago that I assume you were responding to? This I suppose?
"That by no means indicates that cps was wrong. That whole situation was an obvious hot mess, hoards of undocumented children to start with. There are many, many cases of abuse (which people who have suffered have come forward about) and probably some of those children went right back into unsavory situations. We ALL should be concerned about that."
Honestly, with the way the FLDS has been playing games with children and entire families for years moving kids around, taking them from their parents and in some cases placing them in situations that most of us would consider horrifying, I'm not completely impressed with the statement of how CPS "traumatised" hundreds of children.
Those games are still being played out within the still practicing members - thus a bunch of missing children that are currently being looked for. When there was evidence found in Texas of what exactly your prophet was doing with little girls - of course the authorities stepped in. That kind of stuff is simply sick and wrong. No other way to look at it. Look at where the real problem lies.
How traumatic it was for so many people what Warren did I’m speechless and shocked.. religion should be a direct line between you and God there shouldn’t be a man to dictate how you can communicate with or worship God or into heaven etc.. Second, I’m so sorry you and your family had to go through this very painful and traumatic time.. another thing mentioned was modesty and yes, it isn’t shameful or absurd to be modest it’s admirable..
Having multiple wives is not living a moral life.
If they were all adults making this decision without the brainwashing of a cult included - then fine, go be freaky.
But you start trying to make this somehow as a way to 'get to heaven' and start trafficking children into this lifestyle - it's a problem, and it isn't moral by any stretch of the imagination.
Now Lyle Jeffs is in the same boat because he had his family taken away from him, and helaman took one of Lyle's underage daughters somewhere. They won't tell him where she is.
“Morally clean” 3 mothers,
Supposed to be husband of 1 wife, now that’s Biblical
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His extreme angry shows ( rightfully). Maybe that is what Stacy could not deal with.
I found it odd when they asked him how he could survive his wives being "given" to other men. And I found his answer odd as well, "it wasn't survivable." While all these wives survived their husbands being with other women right in their face for generations. After watching a bunch of these videos it has become clear to me that the major faith breaking incident occurred when what all women in this religion faced began happening to men as well. I see that there were differences, of course. These men were made to feel as though they were no longer worthy because of something they had "done." But women were subhuman from birth so...I don't know. Perhaps when you're prepared to live in hell, it's easier to do than when it's randomly thrust upon you.
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There's no such thing as "living polygamy right" as the concept at it's core is misogynistic and harmful to women. Having multiple wives is not an example of moral cleanliness.
I don't like Warren for all he's done
As a Catholic I weep for the sheer number of lost and damaged souls. Those who will never know the true love of God.
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