Valkyrae & HasanAbi Reacts To The Case of Jerrod Murray
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The word she’s looking for is “composed”.
it’s so weird, it feels like he’s telling his boss about something he saw go down at work but he murdered someone instead. the “no sir” and “yes sir” is what weirds me out
Hasan: This is totally reddit debate circle behavior. Correcting everyone.
Also Hasan: *pauses video to correct and comment on everything*
Hasan is literally #1 reddit overlord and its hilarious to me how much he makes fun of people who are basically shadows of himself😂 then again, its also so fitting of redditors so-
Is it weird that he creeps me out more than the guy in the video?
@@rafaelnascimento3410 Yes.
Didnt know that guy before watching this and clearly dont wanna know him after. God hes annoying as fuck
@NEO Hasan does do and say some things he wouldn't get away with if he was ugly ngl.
I have to disagree with the person making the video in this case. It’s very possible he had childhood behavioral issues but fell through the cracks in the system or didn’t have close enough psychiatric care or interest. You don’t have to have it been documented legally or medically for the diagnosis, the behavior just has to have existed. Again, just because nobody wrote it down or payed attention doesn’t mean he’s ineligible for that diagnosis.
wat
Bruh jcs didn't determine that.
Detectives and doctors that know infinitely more about the killer than you do determined that.
@@WookieWarriorz The DSM only says persistent/long-term pattern, not that it has to be officially documented which is what the way he phrased it seems to indicate to the viewer. I’m not arguing with the definition itself, as yes psychologists and psychiatrists and other medical doctors much smarter and longer studied than us, have determined. I’m just arguing with the matter of fact way he stated the ineligibility for that diagnosis. There are other ways to determine if it’s a pattern or persistent, through investigation of history via witnesses, family, classmates, etc or even subsequent longer term monitoring, especially if they’re giving him another diagnosis anyways that would mean long term psychiatric care.
I would say thats an unfair assessment, but after watching enough of hasan's content to actually form an opinion, you are spot on.
the guy making the video seems like a kid that watched all the jcs and tried to imitate poorly
The sheriff is asking questions to ascert if he is telling the truth and all the evidence matches up. Nothing irrelevant about it.
I think it's also so that he can't change the details later on. If he just accepted a vague retelling of the events, it would afford the defense attorney the opportunity to change whatever details didn't fit what he asserts in court
ascertain? assert + discern = ascert. sorry i’m high and that made me lol
Damn man, I like cherry coke. Guess I'm insane now lol.
Hasan is a professional jackass with bad takes, god love him.
Vanilla Coke is my favorite it gives me that nice nostalgia feel when I drink it ☺️
no no no... according to Valkyrae, you're quite normal.
@@vixiestarfire 🤮🤮🤮
@@Toastybees dude fr tho😂 the guy makes fun of judgemental reddit cucklords and he is basically their inspiration
46:43
Hasan: "People who drink cherry coke are terrible people"
Me: *is drinking a cherry coke*
WAIT HOLD UP
Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣same here
ok where did u hide the body?
@@sweet_toria2581 behind the toilet wall☺️
your my cherry cola 🍒🎶
Same tho.
Hasan doesn't seem to understand that the interrogator is not supposed to talk that much. The suspect needs to do all the talking so that the police can get as much information as they can to make sure the suspect isn't lying for someone, suspect isn't falsely accused, and so on.
If the interrogator does all the talking, its either because the suspect is refusing to speak, or they're using the Reid Technique, which is proven to lead to countless false accusations and false confessions.
Let's go thought she watched all of jcs but there is still more content 🕶️ 🔥
I thought that JCS and this channel in this video are different.
@@CL72345 they are
@@CL72345 i know i said more content not more jcs sry for confusion
@@NyikaWachira there is actually more jcs content, on patreon.
Reason for insignificant questions: You want to make sure every pokey object possible is in his coffin because if the big nail falls out, we want 10,000 thumbtacks still holding the lid on.
Plus when they started talking about the insignificant questions, they had him for murder but hadn't really proven premeditation yet. He claimed it was premeditated but they still need the details of the actual process and decisions made while he planned. Also its alot more common than you would think for people to make false confessions and small details would help detect/prevent this.
There is a slight difference, I think, in his "ugh" sounds. When wondering for the information details he makes more of an Aa sound, and when wondering whether to tell and what to tell he lowers it to an Uu sound. I don't know if I'm correct, I just noticed this xd
Still sends a chill down my spine 😳
Rae: Pop is spicy.
Me: *thinks of tiktok meme* "Why is it spicy?"
I DID NOT JUST GET A CAR AD RIGHT AFTER HE SAID CUSSY I'M DECEASED
It’s really nice to hear someone who gets misunderstood the way I do. I have been at a few game nights and every time I’m talking about stuff in game or speaking my mind, they always twist it to make me sound like I’m dumb or bad uggghhhh
Imagine watching the person killed your loved one, child, etc talking about them and saying they would have less of an impact, and that they were a loser that no one would look for if they died 27:22
Cherry coke? Never. Vanilla Coke? There’s just… something about her yknow? 🥰
Vanilla coke is vile imo
Both 🤩cherryvanilla coke
My sister has schizo-affective disorder bipolar type. She is not violent, and knows right from wrong, but she is pretty manipulative. She essentially doesn't care about anything that doesn't directly benefit her. Usually schizo-affective disorder isn't diagnosable till around the age of 21 and thats when she was diagnosed because she had a manic episode that also involved auditory hallucinations. I want people to understand that people with these disorders are not always violent, its a small percentage, and they're not always assholes
I find it odd that they start complaining about the length even tho they can see the length before they click on it. And even if it’s not what they thought it would be, they shouldn’t bad mouth the video just because it’s not their style. Idk it’s weird. They do 9 hour live streams and complain at the 45 minute mark of a video
What's his name again? Pause-ssan.
For some reason I find Hasan extreamly annoying and arrogant.
He's so focused on flirting that he makes the video less enjoyable tbh. Just a lot of time wasted fooling around and playing games, not entertaining except for them.
same. he talks too much and everything he says makes me cringe
haters gonna hate
@@bluefrenk1750 it's not flirting it's just banter also what do you want them to do just watch the video in silence?
@@bluefrenk1750 I saw 0 flirting what ?
He is arrogant tho
This channel has literally ripped off JCS in every single way. He's also had hundreds of comments that have called him out on his channel for it, and he's deleted every single one of them.
Wowwww. Good to know, thank you!
What do you mean? They link and say credits in their desc. They also post reactions to videos, so people who don’t have twitch can watch them. If you could explain how they rip off JCS and Psychology channels then please do.
@@Aubooboojoann he's talking about the channel Rae and Hasan is reacting to.
@@slobbucket *they
@@paige99999 Ok liberal
He sounds like a Pilot getting ready for landing, "eehh, eevening folks. this is yer pilot... and eeeeeeeeeh... its so and so degrees and time is 12:33... eeeeh, i just aaaah... shot someone in the head. anndddd aaaaah.."
I remember giving Coca Cola to my little cousin when she was five and she was like oh no it’s burning!! 😄
how i feel wit mcdonald’s sprite
the murderer telling why he chose the victim: *describes my life*
“Some people just want to watch the world burn”
I don’t think Rae will ever see this but they are asking him basic questions to lock him into a verdict, in this case I believe premeditation. The officer is asking a lot of “you planned this x amount of time ahead, you decided it was victim x amount of days ago, etc”
49:18 Oh my god they were roommates
30:00
the sherif is asking basic yet particular questions to catch a lie
maybe that guy is not insane or wants to incriminate himself for something else
or maybe they both missed some facts so basic questions can make someone unknowingly reveal important details
1:10:55 you just know that the thought process going through his head at that moment is 'I could sure go for a Yoo-hoo.'
1:10:07 the synchronicity
its so weird to me because i live so close to Asher Oklahoma. aslo so weirded out because i went to school with people (small school, probably 300 students 7th-12th) and so many of the ppl there acted and talked just like this guy is
The irony of touching grass and taking a photo of it and putting it in IG is hilarious
I always wondered where Rae's profile pic on discord (the red fox) is from? Aggretsuko?
He kinda looks like Michael Myers from Rob zombie's Halloween.
It scares me how he looks similar to Eren Jeager.
He does not look like him to me lmao
@@_taniaee_13 Well it depends on perspective I guess. If you want some more context, to me he kinda looks like season 4 Eren.
@@sarahanimateswolves4767 ohhhh i see you're point personally i dont think so (or like to not think so) i think a main factor is his long hair
he has no emotion.
This guy reminds me of lama with hats “Carrrrrl!, we don’t shoot people !
wasted opportunity to say “oh my god they were roommates” 49:16
Tbh that would be pretty insensitive, considering….
@@kemmli 😑
@@ati8713 🙃
If I remember this case correctly, this is only his first murder. His lack of empathy and remorse is a clear sign of sociopathic tendencies. He was likely so messy with it not because he wasn't smart but because it was his first murder. Most serial killers in the interviews they have done mention that their first kill wasn't clean. It took time for them to perfect their methods. He didn't think this one through, and that's a good thing for the police and everyone else because now he can't do it again. For him, though, even the one kill is enough for him to be proud. I don't recall hearing a motive in this video, but people who kill for the sake of killing and not in self defense or some other form of justifiable means don't usually need a motive. Motive implies they have something to gain by committing the act. Satisfaction or pleasure could be argued as motive but it's not often strong enough as a motive without a mental condition associated with it. The cop asking alot for the questions he did isn't just to have a chat because a confession by itself is not always enough to convict someone. You almost always need more information because confessions by themselves could be argued as forced, coerced, etc. To make a fair trial and have the jury convict they'll need more information and having a lot of the back story if you will, like what streets they turned down helps determine if the suspect could have actually done the crime and if the confession matches the evidence or not.
The sheriff is trying to get every last tiny detail, because the less he has to change the easier it is to use the confession and make sure the defense cannot twist anything or change the story just enough to get him out of it or lessen the sentence, or claim insanity. It is also possible that the sheriff believes/ knows he is lying and is trying to induce enough mental fatigue to catch him out.
Hassan doesn’t know nothing
he literally needed to shut up tbh
Yo cherry Vanilla Coke is the best, am I a secret killer??
I love this duo bro i can't stop laughing
30:00 the reason the detective is asking so many questions is because to make an 100% believable case in court with no chance of this guy walking free, they need to have every last detail about the events. But I'm not a criminologist, how about you, Hasan???
i like how they complain about the video but then ask questions that the narrator already explained and use their not listening to keep complaining about the video
also how there was not a single thing that they said that added anything of value, just constant complaining and ignoring of all the facts and stupid questions...
Why is the guy who looks like a reditor calling everyone a reditor? lol I've never seen a more 'well actually' looking person I'm my life, if you do read this comment hasan, feel free to point out my typing errors 👍
wtf did hassan do to you bro? what did he say that hurt you? are you an active participant on reddit? lmao
pov: you can't take a joke
@@ohokayjayde he's making fun of Hasan, like Hasan would do to anyone else.
I don’t like hasan either but redditors deserve it they are vile
Redditor projection 💀💀💀
Hasan pauses way too much my god
Whats the deal with 20 ads?
I think what Rae is trying to say is that this dude is straightforward versus other murderers who lie and try to hide or twist facts to benefit themselves.
So his highly unusual behavior compared to a sane person ends up feeling strangely "normal" as though he's just a regular guy talking to his friend about the facts of some non-serious event that took place last night.
He comes across as "normal" because he's talking to the officers as though this murder he has committed is just a normal thing and he's not trying to save his own ass similar to how you and your friends would talk about that time you went to the bar and had some beers and you were trying to figure out what happened that night cuz you got black out drunk and are trying to piece things together.
I dont drink soda aswell because of the sizzling, it hurts my mouth :D
Criminal Psychology and chill
Hasan paused it like 6 times and I’m 3 minutes in I’m out.
why would you click on a reaction video if you don't wanna see their reactions?
God forbid them having genuine reaction & pausing the video
Go watch the original vid for no pauses :))))
19:49 there is no profound take, i promise
Why am i watching this at midnight?? Idk man
Does Hasan and Rae collab like this often? I thought it was going to be two seperate reactions combined but i wasn't expecting this.
They’re dating so I think they are doing more collars now
@@peppathepepe6863 Are they really? I hadn't heard anything about that but i also haven't watched either of them in awhile.
@@NagaSadow97 they’re assuming. Anytime Rae gets close with a man and collabs a lot with them, the people who ship/hate come out. Sykkuno, Noah, Hasan, Blau, toast, Corpse, any more I’m forgetting. You can assume they’re dating, or think it, but to state it as fact, is wrong. They have never confirmed nor denied a relationship.
@@WakeAtDawn Oh, okay. Tbh it doesn't really matter to me either way. I just thought it was weird to see them collab because they didn't do much of anything together when i still watched them often. And yeah i was there for the whole Sykkuno shipping phase, some people still do that too. Though i guess i can kind of understand how people could think that since most people don't act like "siblings" with people they've known only for a short time.
@@WakeAtDawn I remember the corpse and sykkuno shipping. All 3 of them act like siblings. It’s weird to picture her with any of them. Plus it’s Rae. She leaks everything eventually 😂
I Agree with the soda thing i dont drink soda and never have 😂
I truely do not like hasan. 😐 took a lot not to click off this video. Im here for raes reaction to the vid and thats it.
Update, i made it to 28:32 lmao
Vincent Vega if he never got mowed down
Premeditated murder ducked by pleading insane is crazy
He was legally diagnosed as insane and unable to stand trial. That doesn't mean he just goes free. He will spend his life in a mental institute. Even for lesser crimes, if you are deemed unable to stand trial you will likely spend more time in a mental institute than you would have in a prison. It's not a good defence, especially if it's untrue.
This guy reminds me of Eugene from TWD
the guy who murdered : i killed him cuz he did not have any friends
me who dose not have any friends : *sweating nervously*
47:46 COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE CASE, but i have Burning Tongue Syndrome, and soda burns for me. but ironically enough, thats why i like soda. its WAY more refreshing to have soda that quite literally is spicy enough to cause my eyes to water and roll to the back of my head-- compared to coffee.
but that also isnt quite fair, because my form of ADHD is because my brain isnt wired right (in the sense of. it wasnt genetic or enviornmental. its a "my brain is mentally ill" thing) and that causes me to react the opposite way to ALL stimulants, including caffine and sugar.
(A RAMBLE ABOUT MY BURNING TONGUE SYNDROME BELOW)
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the reason i have burning tongue syndrome is because of nerve damage, and because of that, when i rub my taste rubs across my teeth, or across the roof of my mouth-- it ALWAYS has that feeling like you burnt your tongue. but its ONLY if im putting pressure on it, and its not PAINFUL-- its litearlly just the feeling of those taste buds... not... working? i'm not really sure, and neither is the research on burning tongue syndrome.
salt is spicy for me. its not like a proper spicy food where its spicy all at once. with salt, its this build up, like a slightly-spicer-than-usual-mild sauce. and the more salt/salt covered food i eat, the more pain my tongue will feel.
I have burnt my tongue on tea a bunch of times and I can't imagine having that at all times...crazy
lmao she said he said uh alot guess my high school teacher was a murder
definitely not normal for murderers. he doesnt act as if its a normal day or what he would normally do, he indifferent. thats what so off putting about it. He murdered a guy, no remorse and no self preservation and remained indifferent about everything that will happen from that point and what has happened in his life because he is indifferent about literally everything to the most miniscule detail. i dont know what he has been diagnosed with but even in most murders this is not the norm, like not at all. No remorse, in a lot of murders is pretty common. But absolutely no self preservation or care about that at all and willingly just telling the sheriff/police everything is not even remotely normal in murderer cases, atleast not without pressure (which is still kinda rare to just get an outright confession from a murderer).
Wondering is this theory about the cherry coke only or doesn't it include cherry Pepsi
as someone from oklahoma, no one WANTS to come here
49:16 and they were roommates 😦
As a person from Oklahoma I agree with Hassan on where he fucked up wanting to go to Oklahoma
why is there either a can of wd-40 or a flashbang on the desk? lol
Some how hasan is more annoying then the murder 🙄
It’s a shame Jerrod Murray is crazy and homicidal, he could’ve had a better life as an impressionist of Joe Friday from “Dragnet.” Just talking the way he normally does.
This guy doesn’t feel either pride or shame at what he did. He is very devoid of emotion. He is very analytical and describes the event to the slightest detail, he doesn’t lie to the police as regards the actual crime. He may lie about his motivations for the crime. But as far as what happened, he tells the truth in meticulous detail. Almost as if he’s got a photographic memory and is reliving it as he is recounting it. When they ask him what the punishment for his crime should be, he unhesitatingly says “the death penalty,” which has me taken aback. Maybe in some weird way he wants that to happen next? Murderers don’t usually embrace the thought of being executed with open arms. I am convinced he had nothing personal against the victim. It was merely a matter of convenience for him, which is one reason why he is so mentally and emotionally messed up.
He's got a "matter of fact" attitude.
Formally polite.
I like him, but I could never relax around him.
dude this Hasan dude is so annoying ngl LMAO
The 12 sec delay made Rae realizes shes kinda wild lol
Wym?
glad there's such a major likes vs dislikes ratio on this video cause some of these toxic ass comments against hasan and rae had me worried that this ended up on the wrong side of youtube.
This Hasan dude is not funny. He needs to stop trying to be.
after this video i’m so tired of the 3 words ‘yes/no sir’ like it’s annoying at this point
Lowkey this would've been hasan if he didnt get the recognition he did
hasan’s jokes were kinda cringe like early 2000’s memes harharr fedora m’lady overdone humor… it’s becoming the new boomer humor
He's a 30 year rich old dude living in la.
That's fairly boomer these days.
Your comment is cringe
Are you self reporting sir?
You're so awmful, Murraaaaaay.
Is this what hasan calls flirting?
THATS WHAT I AM THINKING😭🤭
If he doesn't drink Cherry Coke you must aquit
Hasam a punk bish
alternative title: hasan bullies valky while reacting to the case of jerrod murray
Made Hasan an arcadum reference? (28:13 my lady?)
Hasan using old jokes, Valk can't keep quiet for more than 1 minute during reacts this is home
Yeah I'm not enjoying this one as much as the others
They said that the sheriff was asking irrelevant questions but in reality, if the sheriff went into court and said "oh yea thats what he told me" with no record of if, this dude would have gotten away
Hasan said that, because he has no fucking clue what he's talking about when it comes to the law and criminology, he's just a little too arrogant and full of himself at times.
I notice this trait anytime he talks about something I have deep knowledge in like a hobby or soemthing and I'm just like wow everything you said was wrong and you seem so sure of yoursrlf 😂
@@WookieWarriorz borderline gaslighting valkyrae when rae was trying to make it make sense and she was right
1:05:25 The Hasan Classic. LOL
Damn this dude, Hasan, is obnoxious
Valkyrae would kill secretly 10000000% not the first time she said normal the way a killer was acting think its like the 3rd time saying that well watching shit like this
yeah the motive is so baffling.. he killed a fellow student for doing him a favor.. sounds a lot like falling on someone elses sword. that theory would also solve the Machiavellianism leg of the triangle
From the moment he was arrested he went into damage control and started building a not mentally competent to stand trial defense.
I'm just wondering why the fuck this guy is wearing a suit...Edit: Correction, who the hell wears a suit every day, just because? Uh.
hasan shouldnt diagnose ppl as psychopaths or sociopaths even if he correct he has nothing to do w mental health its also just wrong to diagnose ppl over the internet like u have never met this person
Why drink cherry coke when dr pepper exists.
Right?
god I hate this, but this dude has the sort of same behaviour as my ex.....
I think the sheriff was trying to make him talk so his mouth would get dry and he would finish the drink, so then he would throw away the bottle and leave a DNA sample.
The word was calm calm he was more calm than other killers
So the reasoning for choosing who he killed was because the he killed didn’t have many friends? Guess I’m fucked then