5 things EVERY hockey player should know about sticks before buying

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  • @FlamesLickBalls
    @FlamesLickBalls 5 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    I'm Canadian and I'm watching a British guy explain hockey sticks 😆

  • @carterbusby239
    @carterbusby239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Thanks, I’m 19 y/o and joining a Adult rookie league. I’ve never played before, I’m definitely looking forward to it.

    • @austinkeller481
      @austinkeller481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Good luck homie remember keep those knees bent

    • @twiggmann42
      @twiggmann42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hey how’d it go bud??

    • @josevivanco2035
      @josevivanco2035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      31 lived in Canada for 17 years and I’ll be playing hockey for the first time in a couple of months

    • @elgenfranord1651
      @elgenfranord1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@twiggmann42 he died in a hockey accsident

  • @rob9147
    @rob9147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    WHAT!! British hockey players?? Bloody Hell mate!!

    • @chewyteddy2153
      @chewyteddy2153 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob in Canada are you Australian

    • @mattan1047
      @mattan1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rob in Canada Not funny didn't laugh

    • @everettbanks5844
      @everettbanks5844 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob in Canada Good one, I laughed.

  • @RetardPenis
    @RetardPenis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bauer
    Supreme = high kickpoint
    Nexus = mid kickpoint
    Vapor = low kick point
    Ccm
    Ribcor = low kickpoint
    Tacks = mid kickpoint
    Rbz = basically everything
    Easton
    Stealth = low kickpoint
    Synergy = mid kickpoint

  • @ronniefnd
    @ronniefnd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sherwood 5030 because I'm old and it reminds me of hockey in the 80's lol.

    • @ryanduray1
      @ryanduray1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't go wrong with a 5030. It's a timeless twig.

  • @victorhelmcke4274
    @victorhelmcke4274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you fellas, i really like watching your videos they are extremely helpful

  • @alexmurphy5289
    @alexmurphy5289 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really helpful in a lot of ways. Just picked up a covert QRL and changed up my curve from P88 to the backstrom curve. Excited to use it tonight

  • @11DariusKasparaitis
    @11DariusKasparaitis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This really helped me out thank you guys

  • @BobRadu
    @BobRadu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is very well explained. Good job.

  • @rombarddeerenberg7178
    @rombarddeerenberg7178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good video. Good explanation about the curves and the flexes.
    See you all at the Pond in Antwerp next april😀👍👍

  • @gregoryyovane468
    @gregoryyovane468 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Make more of these kinds of videos they are extremely helpful

  • @squig808
    @squig808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Make a video about the legendary Coffee curve please.

  • @brothersofthebackrow
    @brothersofthebackrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. So much to learn. I would love more hockey stick info

  • @brettyuzik2098
    @brettyuzik2098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make more videos like this! they really help!

  • @DxrkestMatter
    @DxrkestMatter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped so much, im 19 and just started ice hockey with my uni’s team and just picked up my Bauer XLP’s after your previous rec videos 😊

  • @nates78
    @nates78 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it! The ending was great. I would love to see a review on the CarbonSports AirBlade. Looks interesting and I have not really seen any good reviews on it.

  • @lifeofaustin1062
    @lifeofaustin1062 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are just getting better and better!

  • @rigimain481
    @rigimain481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    im still playing with my 87 koho

    • @aidanmacdonald8949
      @aidanmacdonald8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rigimain nice

    • @markd4768
      @markd4768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got my RED titan fibreglass stick, still shoots great! 👍🏻🇨🇦🍺

    • @odanne29
      @odanne29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markd4768 TITAN 4020, have one too👍😁

    • @Michael-fi3uu
      @Michael-fi3uu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They never break had

  • @sheawalsh4496
    @sheawalsh4496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fav stick Bauer Vapor Flylite

  • @jfb.8746
    @jfb.8746 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very detailed.

  • @fingerlickinggood1
    @fingerlickinggood1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I’m 6’0 130 pounds and I use a 75 flex 😂😂

    • @furthers3037
      @furthers3037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real Cheeken i’m 12 5’3 135 pounds lmao

    • @noahromney7648
      @noahromney7648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      bro you must be a twig

    • @gav5842
      @gav5842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Real Cheeken how r u 511 130

    • @aidanmacdonald8949
      @aidanmacdonald8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You so skinny

    • @brendan1209
      @brendan1209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      7seven xD same

  • @joles2021
    @joles2021 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a p28 flex and a bauer 1s that i really like both the wrist and slapshots are amazing:)

  • @duncanmillar1557
    @duncanmillar1557 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great spread of info for beginners, like myself.

  • @Chr0mePisto1a
    @Chr0mePisto1a 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative.

  • @UAVUnlimited
    @UAVUnlimited 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid as usual 👌👍

  • @chrismcquillen9062
    @chrismcquillen9062 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video!

  • @Mllorand888
    @Mllorand888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job! Thanks bro👌

  • @Shadowban69
    @Shadowban69 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried true and tested fiberglass / wooden sticks have great feel, are way cheaper and are fine for most rec league players; until you find the curve pattern you like. I usually wait for the $250 CF sticks to go on sale and buy two at $120 piece around boxing day. Crosby aka Sakic curve is the best pattern ever and never underestimate the mighty pmp 5030 Paul Coffey Special. Glad to see you dudes enjoying hockey - please call it a shin pad or shin guard and not leg pad. Peace from hockey town

  • @Ryanbikes961
    @Ryanbikes961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx this helped me

  • @heitormorgado
    @heitormorgado 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @granthollyer9801
    @granthollyer9801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Btw the p92 is a mid curve, and the most widely used blade in the sport. It's basically a curve that's a jack of all trades but doesn't specialize in one thing. An e28 or a p28 is a toe curve like you described.

  • @yeltsin6817
    @yeltsin6817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation with caveats

  • @idontgottaname9445
    @idontgottaname9445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got 2 last hockey season get a Sherwood stick EK33 hockey sticks with 80 flex I weighed 160lb and 13 season I flexed that stick like a flex 40 stick when i do a slap shot and I am defense I also do about 7 slap shots pre-game so it's good for me only broke 1 of the stick so I know what stick I'm getting
    Also at my Hockey shop where I live it has about 50 rows of different brands sticks go Canada for being awesome and happy 150

  • @SumanChakrabarti
    @SumanChakrabarti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an awesome video

  • @user-tl7ch8vp3p
    @user-tl7ch8vp3p 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ccm ultra or super tacks with mcdavid curve .. 80 -85 flex .. best stick and flex ever .. wrist shot and snap are crazy

  • @jacobsortevik8999
    @jacobsortevik8999 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, can you talk more about curves

  • @nathanuloswceh1501
    @nathanuloswceh1501 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid

  • @c.ronaldo3948
    @c.ronaldo3948 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have any of you guys tried the true xcore 9 acf, I wanted to know mid kick point or low kick point is better for a forward player who shoot wrist shot and do stick handeling more, is the 1x good?

  • @caelchua9700
    @caelchua9700 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you recommend for a 5'9 133 pounds as the bauer intermediate stick is short for me

  • @Lee11208
    @Lee11208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping to get a stick for my 5 year thanks for this

  • @rileyhaug808
    @rileyhaug808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta say P92 is by far my favorite. Tried P88 and just wasn’t a fan. P08 is just impossible to use unless your trying to shoot 30 feet over the net

  • @RobD4588
    @RobD4588 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Job boys!

  • @Jgimple
    @Jgimple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m 6’2 and use the pacioretty warrior alpha QX3, is that good

  • @matthewgismondi8330
    @matthewgismondi8330 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am happy with my warrior qrl 5

  • @SevnZeroFive
    @SevnZeroFive 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey can you post videos of the contact hockey league you play in. Please and thank you

  • @MyName-mj5jc
    @MyName-mj5jc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Stick buyers should also be aware of the different price points of each brand and stick type/family. For examples, a Bauer 1s Supreme vs. a Bauer 170 Supreme. Price will effect the weight, performance, durability, general feel and balance of the stick. I would recommend the mid-price to mid-high price points for most players. You'll save half of your money and the durability of the stick will be better. However, I'm under the impression that smaller hockey markets are limited in selection and usually only offer the flagship models for each brand. Speaking from experience and living in Canada, I would say only a small percentage of players, the elite level or the very rich use the most expensive sticks.

    • @HockeyTutorialOfficial
      @HockeyTutorialOfficial  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of great points here but you're touching on one of the next videos ;) hold on, it's coming!

    • @davidewan3
      @davidewan3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My advice - buy your stick based on how you play or score goals. If you're a sniper go high end. If you spend your ice time battling in corners or banging them in in front of the blue ice, get a solid $100 twig.

  • @xnathanhx412
    @xnathanhx412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are Easton sticks any good specifically Easton synergy grip

  • @calvindavidson6171
    @calvindavidson6171 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Butterburner I'm 137 and I use a 75 flex I'm having an amazing year with it so you should be fine

  • @colescott8834
    @colescott8834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picking a stick is just a personal preferance, wich he says after every point

  • @EVILDZZNUTS
    @EVILDZZNUTS ปีที่แล้ว

    What stick might help with receiving hard passes

  • @tristansteele5054
    @tristansteele5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a 13yr old 5'8 180lbs defense I use a Crosby curve 85 flex extra long CCM supertacks 9360

  • @DopeSyk
    @DopeSyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of pattern and kick point is best for the velocity of a wrist shot? Not how quick the release is.. but strictly velocity.
    Thanks guys!!

    • @RickAP
      @RickAP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

  • @thepineapple1585
    @thepineapple1585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love how he says t and k it like asmr

  • @austin_laj
    @austin_laj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sherwood please!

  • @hamzahussain1212
    @hamzahussain1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At my local Canadian Tire there isn’t really much customizable sticks like oh j want this flex but this length or this blade, any suggestions of where I should shop for decent sticks?

  • @AP21
    @AP21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks I’m 23 and I want to go into hockey is that too late to come in or

  • @treygray2817
    @treygray2817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6" 170 and I use 85 to 100 and PM9 curve!

  • @Donari
    @Donari 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hockey stick is to my eyes without skates on
    Is it too tall and should i cut like an inch of it?? Im kinda beginner when it comes to hockey

  • @stxrz1460
    @stxrz1460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    *im getting a hockey stick tomorrow with my mum cause I lost mine idk how*

  • @exotictimmy4439
    @exotictimmy4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a defencemen and my ccm jetspeed is a 65 flex and I’m only 80 pounds and 11 years one but my ccm RBZ is 50 flex

  • @DarkwearGT
    @DarkwearGT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best hockey sticks?

  • @tylerboyd6247
    @tylerboyd6247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 180 and use a 60 flex for the quick shots

  • @girlinahat1916
    @girlinahat1916 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ♡♡ VIDEO

  • @warmfish5732
    @warmfish5732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your accent is very satisfying to listen to

  • @J0nssi
    @J0nssi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kessel uses 77 I believe and example Matthews uses 82 flex and its like rubber on his hands

  • @Carterboys3
    @Carterboys3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m 5’10 is 62” a good stick size

  • @GR-po2of
    @GR-po2of 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, i liked this video

  • @alexmanisveinsson277
    @alexmanisveinsson277 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marsblade review?

  • @nickymolitoris799
    @nickymolitoris799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should be worried about play level as well. If you are low level you don't need or even want a high level stick. Lower levels are more durable as well.

    • @HockeyTutorialOfficial
      @HockeyTutorialOfficial  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True but it's the same as asking someone why they're driving an expensive sports car if they don't drive professionally. If you can afford it why not but we're all for letting people know and giving them the option to spend less and still perform well. Great suggestion!

  • @Kristiansolis15
    @Kristiansolis15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m new to hockey

  • @lawrencemaclellan2853
    @lawrencemaclellan2853 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the best

  • @justinplayz1623
    @justinplayz1623 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have two really good sticks and I play with both but should I always play with the same one to get used to it?

    • @justinpatterson3550
      @justinpatterson3550 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JustinPlayz 16 I would pick one and use it all the time, you want to get use to the blade pattern, weight, length, grip and the feel of the stick. Once you get use to it you will see that your shots, passes, etc. are much better because you're use to always playing with the same stick

    • @justinplayz1623
      @justinplayz1623 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Justin Patterson ok thx

    • @worldstar4810
      @worldstar4810 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin Patterson that's the same thing I told my friend the other day

  • @cheesyballer
    @cheesyballer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the 77 flex on a Bauer, but I always cut it down to an 84 because it’s too tall for me. I want to cut it to the height I need without having to make it so stiff.. any ideas?

    • @ohainickify
      @ohainickify 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Morrall 77 flex would be a Senior size length stick. Check to see how tall Intermediates are for you, as if they are still tall, you can cut a 67 flex Intermediate down a bit and it will increase the flex up to around 75ish. Also, some manufactuers have different lengths in their sizes - a CCM Intermediate will be longer than a Bauer Intermediate for example

  • @migueldias7444
    @migueldias7444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got a 40 flex CCM super tacks and I weigh 65-70 pounds is that fine for 100 bucks

    • @reap_darion_3796
      @reap_darion_3796 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matteo Dias yeah it should be fine as long as you can flex and if feels good. I've noticed with tacs they are pretty good for intermediate where as when you get heavier get a warrior or something

    • @migueldias7444
      @migueldias7444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ReaP_ DaRIoN_ thanks dude

  • @ALMASTERFUNK
    @ALMASTERFUNK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 5'10, use 75 flex, w88 and a 69 inch tall stick. Works for me as a defenseman

  • @FlamingNick23
    @FlamingNick23 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 176lbs, 6"1 and about to start playing hockey in uni. Which is good all rounded stick for me to get a handle on the game?

    • @reap_darion_3796
      @reap_darion_3796 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      75-85 flex stick maybe a warrior covert is pretty good or maybe ccm tacs

  • @Yes-cm1ph
    @Yes-cm1ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a crosby curve and i’m terrible at hitting the net. i always shoot too high. other than my aim skill, what curve would be better 😂

  • @philippe-276
    @philippe-276 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I buy a Bauer 1N or a CCM super tacks 2.0 (im a defenseman and I mostly use snapshot/slapshot)

    • @PaintedSodaHD
      @PaintedSodaHD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own a Bauer 1N and recommend for slapshots I don't take too many snapshots but you should be fine. Plus Bauer is very good at stocking different flexes and blades so you have a better chance getting the perfect stick and in my experience it is slightly cheaper, but the CCM Super tacks 2.0 has pretty bad reviews people say they shatter I cant confirm though, I was considering this stick recently but they don't have a large selection of curves. But flexes should be fine. Hope this helps.

  • @Ruger44Redhawk
    @Ruger44Redhawk ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this. My six year old son is now starting with a stick this week after no-stick skating fundamentals. I have a wood youth or junior abs stick they use for street and he'll be using that to start. Not sure what the difference is between youth and junior sticks are. I still use a Easton shark skin shaft with replacement blade as I've never liked over priced one piece composites. Way more power with a two piece on slap shots. But then again I used dozens of Victoriaville and Louisville TPS wood sticks growing up and had a mean shot with those to the point I would hurt goalies in practice and had to use half power.. Point being, as one commenter stated below, you don't need a $250 stick to play. It's like Gore-tex, an absolute gimmick for sales. I saw that Sher Wood is still making the 5030 wood junior stick. I might start him out with that one.

  • @liamreiter3861
    @liamreiter3861 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I shoot 60% wrist shots and 40% slap shots. Do you think I should get the warrior alpha qx3 or the ccm tacks 7092? Thank you to anyone who answers!

  • @london0872
    @london0872 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    First guys voice is so soothing

  • @mcnpeng8719
    @mcnpeng8719 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @Slimesy_
    @Slimesy_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Im 200lbs and use 65 to 70 flex intermediates. Nothing like that whip lol

    • @bigboibluekopitski2821
      @bigboibluekopitski2821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Austin Brown you must order like 12 sticks a buy lol. Bud you probably break a stick every praccy

    • @aidanmacdonald8949
      @aidanmacdonald8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big man

  • @eliasnorberg4785
    @eliasnorberg4785 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are u in sweden

  • @screenheads3812
    @screenheads3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m 170lbs 5’8 and use only 55 flex haha, I have an insane snap shot with it.

  • @hockey1512
    @hockey1512 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I weigh about 115 should I get ccm super tacks 2.0 65 flex

  • @austonmatthews7543
    @austonmatthews7543 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a defence man, I have a really good slap shot and that is probably my best weapon. I have a pretty good wrist shot but it could be improve. But I am also a fuck moving dman with really good hands. I'm using a heavy, cheap stick right now because I'm not going to the Chel so idrc. I feel like it makes my hands slower and my wrist shot release slower. What's a good stick recommendation that would fit all of these qualities?

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Auston Matthews I am a defenseman like you and have the same ups and downs. I use a Bauer vapor 1x which is light as a feather and gives me a wicked shot

    • @pifachu
      @pifachu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      auston... 4 goal in your first game is pretty good for a d-man,

  • @ngstigator
    @ngstigator 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't believe they didn't mention that cutting the stick changes its flex. some sticks have lines that indicate the flex if cut to that length.

  • @iP1501
    @iP1501 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if i pull up wit a stick

  • @marinopejic9640
    @marinopejic9640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have buy ENERGY ULTRA 125 Hockey stick

  • @kadenjohanson2959
    @kadenjohanson2959 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is super tacks 40 flex good for 63 pound

  • @KarterGamer
    @KarterGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    N

  • @ryanb6679
    @ryanb6679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly the key factor for you to like a stick is the blade everything else can be kinda shitty and it can still be a decent stick with a good blade but is you have a shitty blade you fucked

  • @Nygge1982
    @Nygge1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, every time you guys hit the ice rink there are always Swedes there.

  • @paulcyr22
    @paulcyr22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Length, flex, curve, grip, kickpoint

  • @aidandanese3410
    @aidandanese3410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what stick would you recommend for an offensive defense who takes both wrist shots and slap shots and weighs 115lbs

    • @user-tl7ch8vp3p
      @user-tl7ch8vp3p 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aidan Danese ccm ultra or super tacks 75 flex

    • @aidandanese3410
      @aidandanese3410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corey Regich would the bauer nexus 1n also be a good choice

    • @user-tl7ch8vp3p
      @user-tl7ch8vp3p 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aidan Danese depends on whAt you want for curves , what type of shots do you take.?

    • @aidandanese3410
      @aidandanese3410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corey Regich i'm a very offensive defensive and take a pretty even amount of slap shots and wrist shots, i use p92 now but was wondering if i should change curves, i stick handle a lot and like to take it up the ice, do you have any thoughts on what type of curve i should use for a player like me

    • @user-tl7ch8vp3p
      @user-tl7ch8vp3p 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aidan Danese go grab a pro stock ccm ultra tacks p28 curve is mcdavids .. it's great for slap , wrist and snap shot and really good for stick handling

  • @cody8498
    @cody8498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its the bauer nexus that's a mid kick, a high would be the supreme

    • @goodeatz_at2268
      @goodeatz_at2268 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have the bauer nexus and i love it to death

  • @Tryway-wu1to
    @Tryway-wu1to 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saying I am 150 pounds 5'5 and a bantam and I use a 60 flex Bauer supreme 1s also have a 70. I only use the 60 and it makes me mad when kids are like they can't get much power. Well it's because your 11 and using a 70 flex.

  • @Kollakolla552
    @Kollakolla552 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Är ni från Sverige

  • @AC-wl7ve
    @AC-wl7ve 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was some unexpectedly good information from a couple of English blokes