I agree ( Interview with a Vampire is someof his best work). It just doesn't make top dollar like a blockbuster. Cruise did all the Oscar worthy roles for so many years and it wasn't until Mission Impossible and Minority Report that he made tons of money. So why do all that work only for the movie to be in a dust bin after a few years.
I made a similar comment then found yours so removed mine. He's such a good actor, plays a villian so well. I'd love to see him do more bad guy rolls. No offense to Reeves, but Cruise plays a much better bad 🍑.
@@shapeshifter7676 , he's not ice-cold, no, but definitely an utterly cynical sociopath. An interesting and scarily fascinating character. One of my all-time favorite movie villains.
I watched this movie on DVD as soon as it came out because the trailers entranced me. It was fantastic then and it's damn fine now. Never understood why this film didn't take off and still consider it a modern classic.
"Criminally underrated"? Collateral is taught in film schools AROUND the world NOW, it's still on many top lists of international film journalists, it made four times its budget in the box office and more than that in the aftermarket, it was nominated for and won many awards, there are OVER 1000 film science articles about the movie years AFTER its release. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about.
The Jazz Club scene was seriously intense, without the jarring score and the raised voices. Instead it was smooth, almost pleasant, with an air of hope dangling in front of us all. It was the eerie, deliberate--almost friendly--way Vincent carried himself that gave us a deeper look into a very dangerous killer. Underneath the cold gaze, and just beneath the cool, calm and collected voice of Vincent, there was very deep and dreadful danger waiting in the wings. ( :E
Life is funny like that, it's smooth and almost pleasant with an air of hope dangling in front of all of us, but don't be fooled it is cold deliberate killer.
“You, you killed him!” “No I shot him, the bullets and the fall killed him.” 👍👍👍 This and Last Samaurai are Tom Cruise’s best performances in my opinion.
Tom cruise was a great villain in this film...it makes you wish he'd do more varied roles more often...he was brilliant in tropic thunder and interview with a vampire...he's got the talent to be more than just an action or movie star...he can actually act and he's got a surprising amount of range...
And the irony is that these are the roles for which Cruise wasn't even nominated for an Oscar. People talk more about Cruise's performances in Collateral, Interview with a Vampire, and Tropic Thunder than they do the movies he actually got recognition for.
I used to be skeptical about movie reactions. Turns out it's a fantastic way to rewatch a movie when you have less free time on your hands. Great video, guys.
And unlike a lot of reactors, this channel doesn't do any of those excessive (and unnecessary) cutaways just to get a joke. It kills the flow and distracts from the real reason I'm here: to see someone's reaction and commentary. I'm not here to watch someone try (badly) to be a comedian.
I'm still skeptical about most reaction channels, but not this one. This is currently my #1 channel to watch their film/TV reactions to because they actually pay attention to the films and pick up on nuances and connect the dots really well and analyze the films really well in their pos-reaction commentary. I'm stunned at how often they pick up on the exact same things that I do but also I actually learn stuff from them I never thought about. EDIT: They also react to super old classic movies that I watched when I was a kid and kept re-watching as I got older, like films from the 50s and 60s and a lot of reaction channels don't do that.
@@AJR-zg2py Unfortunately I'm finding more and more reaction channels to have too much silliness and extended sidebar conversations about stuff unrelated to the movie they are reacting to. Even some channels that I start out liking their reactions, eventually they lose me because they become too childish, repetitive, and silly. Some of them were always that way and it took me too long to figure it out.
I love how early on Max says he gets lucky with the lights. Then at the end the train lights fail. That saves Max. Vincent's training fails him. You see holes in the door. Two to sternum and one to the head. He didn't see max move and missed. Wonderful movie. One of my favorites!
Well he missed cuz he was dying . He didn’t realize 100 percent until he dropped his magazine . If he wasn’t dying he would’ve 100 percent killed max . He respected the fact that he died to max by sitting down and retelling him the train story Right before he died .
Good observation with the bullets in the end. Small correction though: The 'holes' were actually just dents in the door seen from the other side. The bullets didnt fully penetrate and got stopped by the door. But the point remains the same: Vince couldnt escape his training or his ways if you will and that cost him his life.
Michael Mann wrote and recently released a second story of Heat.. "Heat 2" a before and after surrounding the characters and events that took place of the first film.. this guy has a filmography that most directors can only dream of..
Collateral is my favorite movie of the last 20 years. In my opinion, this is Michael Mann's best film. It feels different from most major Hollywood films in that it's not genre-specific. It's got elements of action, crime drama, thriller, but it's much more than that. At it's core, it's the story of 2 men who change each other's lives in unexpected ways. You touched on it both during and after the reaction that Max was probably going to change into a more confident and successful person because of Vincent and also Vincent changed because of Max. He started to actually like Max, which caused him to get sloppy and have to improvise, but in the end, his robotic ways did him in as he couldn't adjust to the subway lights while Max just shot randomly. Also on your confusion about Vincent choosing the correct train, it's not technically shown, but what happened is that Max and Annie actually left the lower subway level by making their way back up the stairs that were opposite of the stairs where Vincent was standing and trying to decide which train to choose. Then once they got up to the upper level, they crawled onto the upper level train to where Vincent couldn't see them get on. So Vincent just lucked out and chose the right train on the upper level. They wouldn't have needed to crawl onto the lower level train since Vincent was on the upper level and wouldn't have seen them. Cruise and Foxx had phenomenal chemistry in this film. Personally, I think this is the best performance of Tom Cruise's career and he deserved to win a Best Actor Oscar. I never once felt like I was watching Tom Cruise play a character. I felt like I was watching Vincent the whole time. This film put Jamie Foxx on the map and made Hollywood take notice of him as a serious actor as he was actually nominated Best Supporting Actor for Collateral and later this same year starred in Ray where he would go onto win Best Actor for that film. Ray is probably Foxx's best film performance, but his work in Collateral as Max is my favorite role of his as well. in addition to Cruise and Foxx, the entire supporting cast is perfect and nails their small parts. Most of these famous actors were low-key unrecognizable, but in a good way: Cruise with the gray hair, Foxx with glasses, Ruffalo with slicked back hair and goatee, Bardem with shorter hair. None of them looked exactly like their actual selves but at the same time didn't look like actors in wigs and makeup, but realistic characters. The term "existential" comes up a lot in regards to this movie. It's as much about the meaning of life, self-analysis and evaluation as it is an action crime drama thriller movie. The film is based heavily on coincidence. At times it's blatant, like Vincent's story about the subway and at other times it's subtle within dialogue exchanges like when Max says "I got lucky with the lights" to Annie and later the lights on the subway go out at just the right time to save his life in the final showdown with Vincent. Also, there's a "full circle" dynamic to this movie as 1) The film starts with Vincent arriving in LA and ending with his body on the subway heading to parts unknown and 2) Max picking up Annie as a fare and striking a bond with her and ending with him having to save her life. The editing and music choices are flawless. The film also has a lot of genuine humor within the script that feels natural, like the alley scene of Vincent and Max talking to the cab dispatcher, but a lot of their dialogue just feels completely natural within the context of this movie. Michael Mann straight up deserved a Best Director nod and a Best Picture nomination is a given. This movie should have won all the awards in 2004, but it's not the typical award type film. I think it creeped up on people and is one of those films that has been slowly admired over time as the masterpiece that it truly is.
The quintessence (i am sure this was analyzed by people!? :) ) is the pure nihilistic world view of Tom Cruises character and therefore his actions and how he 'helps' Jamie who is stucked in his life. Well - helping very 'temporarily' because he would have had to delete him … tl;dr; really existential :) - as you wrote - a lot to think about
@@demian5631 yeah, but hard to believe time flies like that! I rewatched Heat which TBR and Sam watched on this channel on my new 4K TV on the weekend, that’s nearly 30 years old which is even more crazy given how well it’s held up and how modern it looks with the 4K transfer!
oh - and the scene where cruise confronts the "homies" taking his brief case - it's still held up by people who knows guns and shooting as one of the best examples of fast, unaimed shooting from the hip in movies. similar to how val kilmer's mag change in the middle of the firefight in heat is considered a prime example of how you should do that and is even used in training. seems like michael mann knows how to bring out strong "firearm performances" from his actors haha....
Perfect excecution of a Mozambique drill. And also the scene where I learned about the drill. I wish we got more movies with such good grounded gunplay.
I think Tom Cruise is a really good actor, but until this movie I was pretty much “over” him, mostly due to his off-screen shenanigans. This movie reminded me that it is sometimes worth it to separate the art from the artist.
I always think that if I'm going to recommend any Tom Cruise film to anyone, it would be Collateral. Like, if they really want to see him disappear into a character and not feel like Cruise acting, just watch this movie.
Tropic Thunder, Collateral, Magnolia, Taps. When Tom plays the heavy, he's not only brilliantly charismatic, but in all four cases he is ink blot darkly hilarious.
Next, you should check out The Insider (1999), which is also directed by Michael Mann. It's a true story about a whistleblower in the Tobacco Industry. Also it has Al Pacino and Russell Crowe.
Would love to see TBR do The Insider. They'll have to choose it, though -- I don't think enough people have seen it for it to win a poll. I recently paid to have another reactor do it. We'll see if it gets a TH-cam edit.
"Last of the Mohicans" is another great Michael Mann film. You two should definitely check it out; taking place in the 1800's, it's much different from his other work.
"Collateral" is in many ways a perfect movie. You'd struggle hard trying to find any meaningful flaws with it. I always answer this film whenever someone asks me what is Tom Cruise' best role too. He's an excellent villain, and the storytelling artistery in how they mirror the protagonist in the antagonist for this movie is filmmaking masterclass.
The final third is a bit too predictable when it switches to very standard action movie beats, unrealistically lucky moments and untrained competence that are typical in dumb action movies but which really stand out against the much more grounded, cerebral tone of the rest of the film. I actually would argue that the final fifteen minutes or so are seriously disappointing after such an amazingly controlled, intelligently written, finely acted thriller up until then.
@@Melancthon7332 this is actually a good point. I remember giving the movie an 8/10 on release, and mostly a 9/10 whenever I referencing it since, so it's never been actually fully clear to me why I have this irking' feeling the movie wasn't fully perfect. I do not have issues with the pacing, so that wasn't it for me; but yeah. I think maybe the finale is the issue for the very reasons that Melanchton7332 points out. Quite frankly; Tom Cruise's character should at a minimum walked free, avoided the high risk and uneccessary confrontation, or at least disarmed Jamie Foxx's character. I did enjoy the way he ultimately expires, but it sure does feel like a movie-ending, after what was ostensibly a much more grounded film up until the last 15 minutes. Secondly, it needs a slight subtraction for Jamie Foxx's acting, or just the fact that he feels miscast.
Such a great film. This is a perfect example of a "midpoint collision" storyline, where the good guy and bad guy swap traits throughout the movie. Vincent starts hesitant and adapts well compare to Max, then when Max meets Felix, Max becomes those traits and Vincent becomes more hesitant to the end.
I was just reading a whole article about this actually. Vincent shows an actual adoration for Daniel’s music and life experience, and on some level laments having to kill him. But rather than letting his emotions get the best of him, Vincent chooses to carry out his job. Where Max has learned to change for the better, Vincent hasn't.
As surprising and sad as it was to see detective fanning get killed, it served the story beautifully. Max now has to get out of the situation on his own, and by doing so he'll have evolved from a guy who's always TALKING about doing, into someone who actually DOES. On the other hand, when Max challenges Vincent, and asks why he is the way he is, Vincent realizes he doesn't have an answer.
I love this movie. BTW, Jamie Foxx was nominated for Best Supporting for Collateral, and Best Actor for Ray (and won) in the very same year. Awesome year for him.
I think the studio was pushing Cruise for Best Actor. If they had been going for Best Supporting instead he probably would have been nominated at least.
@@samqualls1339 Also, 3 out of the 5 Best Actor nominees that year, including the winner Foxx, portrayed real people and the Academy tends to favor those types of performances in biopics over portrayals of fictional characters, unless it's some sad tearjerker movie or something. They love to give awards to sentimental movies where people cry a lot.
That club scene was a John Wick sequence ten years early. Overall I always loved how, I dunno...quaint this movie is. It's pretty low stakes but that leaves you hyper focused on the collision between our two main characters. For as much as Vincent espoused his own brand of "shit happens" nihilism, he ended up being the one too tied to his established patterns by the end.
@@WheresWaldo05 Wow, I see your insults are just as pathetic and unoriginal as your opinions. Basement dweller and woke, two of the most overused insults today. You're just an all around sad, lame human being.
Woah!! Never caught a video upload this early!! I feel so cool 😎 you two are fantastic and love all your commentaries, for movies I’ve seen, and movies I haven’t! Always a fresh perspective!
Vincent is a full-on psycho/sociopath. From the time he jumps in the cab he knows he's going to kill Max at the end of the night so there are no loose ends. Everything nice he does for Max is manipulation and is straight out of the psychopath/sociopath playbook. They disarm you with their charm. Tom Cruise and the writers did a phenomenal job with this character. Making you relax when you are in Vincent's circle, just like a butcher before the slaughter. Never let the animals see the knife.
Which just shows how great of a job Cruise did playing this part. Objectively speaking, everyone knows he’s killing Max in the end. But as an audience we all hope and think, just maybe he won’t.
One of my all time favorite movies. The part that doesn't make sense though is why Vincent put Ramon's body in the trunk. He didn't bother to hide the lawyer's body, or the jazz guy or the two in the alley. It seems like Ramon was put in the trunk only because later on, they needed the cop to see a body in the trunk.
Omg while watching this reaction right at the part of the broken windshield I got a satélite windshield repair ad. Lol TH-cam be scary watching the reactions with me. Love you guys, keep up the reactions.
Such an underrated movie! One of my favorites, for sure. Couple fun facts from IMDb: - "If you look closely, you can see how Vincent, a trained killer, was unable to shoot Max, a normal cab driver. Max was firing wildly, but Vincent was using his signature precision shooting of two hits to the chest and one in the head. These shots hit the metal barrier in the middle of the door, and hence missed Max. You can see the bullet indentations in a few of the scenes. Max just got lucky with his random firing." - "Jason Statham's cameo is often regarded as being his character Frank Martin from The Transporter (2002) and its sequels. He delivers a bag to Vincent at the airport and then disappears, no questions asked."
Tom Cruise doesn't get the credit for his acting skills, that little crazy sob can do drama and we haven't seen him as the villain a lot but he's an awesome bad guy. I highly recommend one of his earliest roles in Taps and he steals every scene in Interview with the Vampire.
Fun little note about the final shootout on the subway, Max fired wildely and hit Vincent, Vincent fired like a pro (2 to the chest, 1 to the head) instinctively but his shots hit the door of the subway as Max was perfectly behind it.
I never thought this film received the recognition it deserved. It's great to see you guys enjoyed it. Good commentary. Good reaction. I saw a documentary about this film many years ago. One section covered all the many cabs they used throughout the film to maintain a consistent color scheme since - based on lighting from lamps and other street lights - the cab's colors and hues would change. Fascinating stuff. Gave me a fresh appreciation for the minutiae of movie making.
Fun fact: when the cab pulls away from the night club (after the shootout) and grinds the cab against the other cars, that wasn't planned. Jaime Foxx just messed up when pulling away and clipped the other cars. He's joked since, "This is why you never see actors do their own driving."
Glad you guys got to watch Collateral one of my favorite Tom Cruise movies next to Top Gun, Days Of Thunder, A Few Good Men and Top Gun:Maverick among others. Collateral definitely a change from Cruises typical characters he plays and good to see him play darker role as the villain with being a sociopathic hitman.
Great movie. Jamie Foxx was actually nominated for an Academy for best supporting actor for this role, same year he won best actor for Ray. Jason Statham is actually playing Frank Martin, the same character he plays from the Transporter.
33:38 Yes, it was Tom Cruise, and yes, it was not supposed to happen, it was one of the takes in which he accidentally tripped and Michael Mann decided to use this one specifically to show how collected and stone cold Vincent starts to lose it. Also the coyote crossing your path is supposedly an omen of bad luck and impending doom.
This was an excellent efficiently edited and paced re-watchable reaction, guys! I wonder if you'd and I do recommend Michael Mann's stylish Miami Vice remake. It's got good worthy hooks to it. Vincent was a deadly life coach! Oh, the discount thing! Max's improvisation was life or death full-dive awesomeness but when he did the not so hard-hitting discount and then even lower, held my breath that he overplayed his hand with his cover.
Heat, Collateral, Se7en. You’re working through my favorite genre. Neo Noir. 😅 Also, I read the screenplay to this back in the day. 2 interesting things about it. 1. When Vincent gets threatened by the guys in the alley, the screenplay read “The thug holds his gun sideways like they see on Mtv.” Then they take a double tap. And second, the following scene at the gas station, Vincent calls the people Max gets killed Collateral. And Max asks “Am I collateral?” Vincent replies “I haven’t decided yet.” The entire conversation that is the reason for the title of the film for some reason is cut.
Fun "fact": While never actually confirmed or denied by Mann, most believe that Statham's character here is literally his Transporter character Frank Martin on a job. Sorry if this has been mentioned already, scrolled through a few of the 300+ comments and didn't see it.
Mann literally took a video camera and confidently blended the scenes with a film camera for lighter shoots. That's a sign of a gifted filmmaker. Under most hands, this would've looked amateur hour but somehow the dude made it work. Jarring at first, but to use it in the dirty, grimy look of nightly LA was an ace creative choice.
If you think about it, the camera shots follow Max's life. At first they are very tight, limited in the cab, not much else. Over the course of the movie the shots with him get wider and more expansive as the character grows beyond the cab.
@@Drforrester31 The director Michael Mann says this was one of the first Hollywood films to use digital film to achieve a look that only digital film was capable of - instead of trying to make digital film look like celluloid film. Without digital film, there is no way Mann could have shot this movie at night with so many low-lighting situations - which is easily 80% of it. It just looks so DAMN good.
Fun mirrors between Heat and Collateral: Both take place in LA Heat begins in a Train and ends in an Airport. Collateral begins in an Airport and ends in a Train.
Here are some recommendations for 3 more outstanding Michael Mann films: THIEF with James Caan, THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS with Daniel Day-Lewis, and THE INSIDER with Russell Crowe and Al Pacino!!
Yes! This is one of my favourite films, and easily my favourite Tom Cruise performance - his trademark intensity serves him so well in a villainous role. I'm reminded of Henry Fonda playing against type as the despicable Frank in Once Upon A Time in the West (which is another masterpiece that I hope you'll eventually get around to if you ever feel like a Western). Love your content as always!
I read something a while back that Robert De Niro's character in Heat and Tom Cuise's character in Collateral are related, brothers even. They kinda also look and dress alike in those 2 movies. In Heat, the movie starts on the train and ends at the airport. In Collateral, the movie starts at the airport and ends on the train.
This movie makes me sad that so far, we've never got any more movies were Tom Cruise plays the bad guy. He's *so* good at projecting menace and threat as an actor. It's such a shame.
Tightest script ever, given life by one of the most technically disciplined directors ever. If you're going full Michael Mann, may's well check out "Last of the Mohicans" and "Public Enemies".
Tom Cruise as a antagonistic hit man was such a refreshing role for him at this time. Love this film and thanks for keeping me company with your reaction on this cold night where I'm located. Hope you guys have a good night and evening
The scene with the wolves was a happy accident, they where just there while they where filming. Also Tom Cruise's look was to make him like a silver fox, a cunning hunter.
Great insights after the film as usual guys. Thief was mentioned and that one is very interesting because it was Mann's first feature film, very much the beginning of his "style". For more action and more Foxx, Miami Vice is one to watch. I also don't understand why it gets put down, I thoroughly enjoyed it ... and it has a shootout that rivals, if not surpasses, the Heat shootout. And also as mentioned, The Insider is a suspenseful telling of a true story with great performances from Crowe, Pacino, and Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes.
You guys should check out last of the mohicans ( micheal mann ) Daniel day lewis . Hans Zimmer soundtrack. Amazing historical war movie. Colonial America
One of the few times if not the only time Tom Cruise played a villain and he absolutely nailed it. One of the most underrated films of the last two decades
Thinking about it lately, looking at all the performances and range of actors... I think Tom Cruise is literally my favorite actor. This movie, Interview with the Vampire, Tropic Thunder, Edge of Tomorrow, The Last Samurai, Jerry Maguire, Rain Man... Tom Cruise just makes you believe his performances. I don't think I've seen a movie with him where he did a bad job. Then again... Gary Oldman has so many varied roles... 🤔 but a lot of them were cheesy... 😒 yeah, Tom Cruise is better... ...but now Robin Williams...makes you laugh, cry... 🤔 Ok, idk who my favorite is. Changes day to day like your favorite song right?
Unpopular opinion, but Cruise is also my favorite actor. He's a better actor than given credit for and like you say, he's done a variety of roles and has acted well in all of them. He has films across many genres that are entertaining and re-watchable, which is something that even some of the best actors can't lay claim to. I'd say my 3 favorite Cruise films are Collateral, Mission Impossible, and Risky Business. Also, I think he should have won Best Actor for both Jerry Maguire and Collateral.
Its the performances that have always made Collateral stand out to me. First and pretty much only time Tom Cruise has played a outright villain and protagonist. He kills it(like Vincent lol). Jamie Fox is acting his ass of as well. Can't take your eyes of either one. 👍🏻
It reminds me of Henry Fonda playing a villain in Once Upon a Time in the West. It was the only time he played a bad guy and it was one of his best performances.
Love this film and the soundtrack is also incredible. Great reaction too, so glad people are appreciating it still... seemed like many forgot it for a while.
I haven't put my finger on it, but I really like this movie. I don't know how many times I've seen it. I can explain why I like The Usual Suspects, Se7en, Sideways, Brick, etc easily, but if asked why I like this so much I don't have my response readily available. There's something about it that gets me.
this was one of the first big movies that were shot on video. you can tell the limitations of it by how noisy the image looks sometimes. but what the tech bought them was the ability to shoot in ambient light at night without massive lighting setups. some of those shots where they're moving around on the streets or when you're looking into a 16 story building from 3 stories up, or just looking out the cab window at the city at night - that kind of stuff would have been EXTREMELY difficult to pull of on film. film needs a looooooot of light and some kinds of setups end up being plain impossible between how much light you need and how much you want/need in focus. even amateur video cameras were always pretty good at shooting in low light and for the first time, you get some of those advantages on the big screen. but considering this was the early days, the image doesn't look great all the time. these kinds of shots are pretty common place now and look great because of how far we've advanced with professional digital cinematography. but at the time, this was some ground breaking stuff. mann continues his ground breaking push with digital cinematography in miami vice which continues to take advantage of digital's low light capability. =========== in terms of story, vincent spoke a lot of truth to max. i think it's the case where vincent is definitely the antagonist and a bad person but he saw some things correctly and saw max's flaws accurately and gave him some hard facts. the thing about max's inability to get started on his dreams is something i still think about.
One of my favourite movies, glad you guys watched it. The story Javier Bardem “Felix” tells Max gives me chills every time “how upset do you think jolly old St. Nick would be if one day Pedro came into his office and said he lost the list, how F***ING furious do you think he would get.. tell me Vincent!
I love your movie choices guys. Collateral is another one I recommended to you after watching Heat. You keep doing my film suggestions and I love it. It's most likely because many others are suggesting the same films. But I'd like to take full credit anyway. Thanks and keep up the great work!
I have watched 1 or 2 reactions from you guys before but after checking out your channel n the movies you have reacted to and specially how great your reactions plus analysis are I knew I had to subscribe. I have quite a few of your reactions lined up so thank you n keep doing a great job
I'm seeing more and more TH-cam reactors reacting to Collateral. This is a very good thing. Great reaction! 👍 One of Tom Cruise's and Jamie Foxx's best acting performances onscreen.
Last of the Mohicans and Ali are MUST SEE Mann movies. Public Enemies, The Insider and Thief are very good as well. Miami Vice and Blackhat are entertaining but non-essential. The Keep is ... okay, but it got chopped to hell by the studio without Mann's approval; there's a director's cut out there someone, apparently, but no-one's ever gotten a good look at it, so we're waiting for it to get a proper release to see if it's really worthwhile. His recent series Tokyo Vice is worth checking out too, reckon you guys would definigtely get a kick out of it. It just got greenlit for a second season too.
You should try the Miami Vice movie with Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx. It doesn’t get much love compared to the 80’s tv show but I thought it was a fun, stylized, and faithful adaptation. Great score, too.
Was gonna recommend Vice as well as 2009's Public enemies in comments but, these guy's have a list that's probably sooo long I didn't even bother.. but yeah, 100% they should watch Vice.. like tomorrow.. if it was up to me..
I think people expected the same vibe as the Miami Vice TV show, which was fun and somewhat campy, but the film played it 1000% serious. I love the movie and hope they watch it!
If you re-watch the Vice series which was created and produced by Mann, there is a lot of darkness. There were just limitations placed on it because it was network television in the eighties. So in a way, Mann got to finally make the Miami Vice he always wanted.
There were times where Mann was able to show what Miami Vice was supposed to be: arguably, the best episode was titled "Out Where The Buses Don't Run": if you haven't seen that one, I highly reccomend it.
You’re right about Tom Cruise doing his own stunts it’s pretty impressive. The running and jumping and he really did kill those guys that robbed Max in the movie just to keep it authentic.
Jason Statham as Frank Martin from the Transporter movies. Not sure if he is really playing that character in this movie. Still wouldn't it be cool as hell if that is what Michael Mann intended.
My personal list of fave Tom Cruise films... 1) Born on the 4th of July (War film) 2) Cocktail (with Elisabeth Shue) 3) Interview with A Vampire 4) Jerry Maguire 5) Magnolia 6) Vanilla Sky 7) The Last Samurai (his best in my opinion)
The character arcs in this movie are so subtle and magnificent. In the end Vincent loses because he sticks to a routine while Max improvises and wins. The irony is that max followed routine with dogmatic fervor and it's the time spent with Vincent that teach him to improvise. It Brings all of their conversations full circle, and ultimately saves Max's life saved during the meeting with Felix, and again it saved his life in the shootout.
One of the many, many things that makes Michael Mann's thrillers (Manhunter, Heat, Collateral) great is that there's always pathos to go with the catharsis when the villain finally gets it. In each of those three stories, the bad guy has done terrible things and part of you is glad that he's gotten his comeuppance, but there's always a hint of sadness too; this is a human life that has been ended, a person who was probably loved by someone at some point, a person whose life could have gone differently. You can even see it in the reactions of (respectively) William L. Petersen, Al Pacino, and Jamie Foxx in the movies' epilogues; not one of them is happy about what he's had to do.
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Tom Cruise should've played villains more often. He's so damn fun to watch as a bad guy.
I agree ( Interview with a Vampire is someof his best work). It just doesn't make top dollar like a blockbuster. Cruise did all the Oscar worthy roles for so many years and it wasn't until Mission Impossible and Minority Report that he made tons of money. So why do all that work only for the movie to be in a dust bin after a few years.
I recommend the action comedy "Tropic Thunder" (2008) with Tom Cruise in a hilarious supporting role.
I made a similar comment then found yours so removed mine.
He's such a good actor, plays a villian so well. I'd love to see him do more bad guy rolls. No offense to Reeves, but Cruise plays a much better bad 🍑.
There is Taps 1981 (Tom Cruise , Sean Penn , George C Scott ) , Magnolia 1999 and in Rain Man he does kidnap his brother .
@D G They probably ditched doing the Les Grossman movie since the character is pretty much based on Harvey Weinstein.
Loved Tom Cruise's turn as a cold-blooded antagonist hitman ..its was so convincing great acting from Tom
He's not that cold, kinda what makes him so likable
@@shapeshifter7676 , he's not ice-cold, no, but definitely an utterly cynical sociopath. An interesting and scarily fascinating character. One of my all-time favorite movie villains.
@@jcp1984again Not ice cold but a sociopath?
This is a criminally underated movie. Love it.
I watched this movie on DVD as soon as it came out because the trailers entranced me. It was fantastic then and it's damn fine now. Never understood why this film didn't take off and still consider it a modern classic.
Im pretty sure its highly rated
"Criminally underrated"? Collateral is taught in film schools AROUND the world NOW, it's still on many top lists of international film journalists, it made four times its budget in the box office and more than that in the aftermarket, it was nominated for and won many awards, there are OVER 1000 film science articles about the movie years AFTER its release. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about.
Not underrated (unless you’re Hans)
It's not really underrated anymore.
The Jazz Club scene was seriously intense, without the jarring score and the raised voices. Instead it was smooth, almost pleasant, with an air of hope dangling in front of us all. It was the eerie, deliberate--almost friendly--way Vincent carried himself that gave us a deeper look into a very dangerous killer. Underneath the cold gaze, and just beneath the cool, calm and collected voice of Vincent, there was very deep and dreadful danger waiting in the wings. ( :E
Life is funny like that, it's smooth and almost pleasant with an air of hope dangling in front of all of us, but don't be fooled it is cold deliberate killer.
Exactly
Vince genuinely liked the Jazz man and for a breif second regretted killing him.
“You, you killed him!”
“No I shot him, the bullets and the fall killed him.”
👍👍👍
This and Last Samaurai are Tom Cruise’s best performances in my opinion.
Jerry McGuire has entered the chat. Now show me the money.
That "dead guy on the subway" line was a brilliant bit of foreshadowing for Vincent's eventual fate.
I love that part. His storytelling is so enthralling when he’s talking to Jamie’s character
Tom cruise was a great villain in this film...it makes you wish he'd do more varied roles more often...he was brilliant in tropic thunder and interview with a vampire...he's got the talent to be more than just an action or movie star...he can actually act and he's got a surprising amount of range...
And the irony is that these are the roles for which Cruise wasn't even nominated for an Oscar. People talk more about Cruise's performances in Collateral, Interview with a Vampire, and Tropic Thunder than they do the movies he actually got recognition for.
And don’t forget his performance in Born on the Fourth of July.
Agreed. Cruise is wonderful when he steps outside his usual oeuvre.
@@charmawow 'Magnolia' and 'Eyes Wide Shut'. Brilliant in both IMO.
@@richardadesmond And he’s pretty good in Vanilla Sky too…..not a bad actor that Cruise fella.
I used to be skeptical about movie reactions. Turns out it's a fantastic way to rewatch a movie when you have less free time on your hands. Great video, guys.
And unlike a lot of reactors, this channel doesn't do any of those excessive (and unnecessary) cutaways just to get a joke. It kills the flow and distracts from the real reason I'm here: to see someone's reaction and commentary. I'm not here to watch someone try (badly) to be a comedian.
I'm still skeptical about most reaction channels, but not this one. This is currently my #1 channel to watch their film/TV reactions to because they actually pay attention to the films and pick up on nuances and connect the dots really well and analyze the films really well in their pos-reaction commentary. I'm stunned at how often they pick up on the exact same things that I do but also I actually learn stuff from them I never thought about. EDIT: They also react to super old classic movies that I watched when I was a kid and kept re-watching as I got older, like films from the 50s and 60s and a lot of reaction channels don't do that.
@@AJR-zg2py Unfortunately I'm finding more and more reaction channels to have too much silliness and extended sidebar conversations about stuff unrelated to the movie they are reacting to. Even some channels that I start out liking their reactions, eventually they lose me because they become too childish, repetitive, and silly. Some of them were always that way and it took me too long to figure it out.
Or like when you don't really want to watch the movie like "Everything Else All At Once" I can't stand even the reactions, lol
I love how early on Max says he gets lucky with the lights. Then at the end the train lights fail. That saves Max. Vincent's training fails him. You see holes in the door. Two to sternum and one to the head. He didn't see max move and missed. Wonderful movie. One of my favorites!
Well he missed cuz he was dying . He didn’t realize 100 percent until he dropped his magazine . If he wasn’t dying he would’ve 100 percent killed max . He respected the fact that he died to max by sitting down and retelling him the train story Right before he died .
Good observation with the bullets in the end. Small correction though: The 'holes' were actually just dents in the door seen from the other side. The bullets didnt fully penetrate and got stopped by the door.
But the point remains the same: Vince couldnt escape his training or his ways if you will and that cost him his life.
I love this movie and feel like not enough people are talking about it
Tom Cruises performance as Vincent is amazing. He is the bad guy but he makes you like him and you want things to work out for him.
Michael Mann wrote and recently released a second story of Heat.. "Heat 2" a before and after surrounding the characters and events that took place of the first film.. this guy has a filmography that most directors can only dream of..
Any news about Miami Vice 2? it's going to be done ?
@@javix2013 man, that would be awesome.
*Miami Vice TV show reaction?* I wonder if anyone today knows how influential Mann's hit show was to crime dramas to follow.
Collateral is my favorite movie of the last 20 years. In my opinion, this is Michael Mann's best film. It feels different from most major Hollywood films in that it's not genre-specific. It's got elements of action, crime drama, thriller, but it's much more than that. At it's core, it's the story of 2 men who change each other's lives in unexpected ways. You touched on it both during and after the reaction that Max was probably going to change into a more confident and successful person because of Vincent and also Vincent changed because of Max. He started to actually like Max, which caused him to get sloppy and have to improvise, but in the end, his robotic ways did him in as he couldn't adjust to the subway lights while Max just shot randomly. Also on your confusion about Vincent choosing the correct train, it's not technically shown, but what happened is that Max and Annie actually left the lower subway level by making their way back up the stairs that were opposite of the stairs where Vincent was standing and trying to decide which train to choose. Then once they got up to the upper level, they crawled onto the upper level train to where Vincent couldn't see them get on. So Vincent just lucked out and chose the right train on the upper level. They wouldn't have needed to crawl onto the lower level train since Vincent was on the upper level and wouldn't have seen them.
Cruise and Foxx had phenomenal chemistry in this film. Personally, I think this is the best performance of Tom Cruise's career and he deserved to win a Best Actor Oscar. I never once felt like I was watching Tom Cruise play a character. I felt like I was watching Vincent the whole time. This film put Jamie Foxx on the map and made Hollywood take notice of him as a serious actor as he was actually nominated Best Supporting Actor for Collateral and later this same year starred in Ray where he would go onto win Best Actor for that film. Ray is probably Foxx's best film performance, but his work in Collateral as Max is my favorite role of his as well. in addition to Cruise and Foxx, the entire supporting cast is perfect and nails their small parts. Most of these famous actors were low-key unrecognizable, but in a good way: Cruise with the gray hair, Foxx with glasses, Ruffalo with slicked back hair and goatee, Bardem with shorter hair. None of them looked exactly like their actual selves but at the same time didn't look like actors in wigs and makeup, but realistic characters.
The term "existential" comes up a lot in regards to this movie. It's as much about the meaning of life, self-analysis and evaluation as it is an action crime drama thriller movie. The film is based heavily on coincidence. At times it's blatant, like Vincent's story about the subway and at other times it's subtle within dialogue exchanges like when Max says "I got lucky with the lights" to Annie and later the lights on the subway go out at just the right time to save his life in the final showdown with Vincent. Also, there's a "full circle" dynamic to this movie as 1) The film starts with Vincent arriving in LA and ending with his body on the subway heading to parts unknown and 2) Max picking up Annie as a fare and striking a bond with her and ending with him having to save her life. The editing and music choices are flawless. The film also has a lot of genuine humor within the script that feels natural, like the alley scene of Vincent and Max talking to the cab dispatcher, but a lot of their dialogue just feels completely natural within the context of this movie. Michael Mann straight up deserved a Best Director nod and a Best Picture nomination is a given. This movie should have won all the awards in 2004, but it's not the typical award type film. I think it creeped up on people and is one of those films that has been slowly admired over time as the masterpiece that it truly is.
Very well said, totally agree with everything
The quintessence (i am sure this was analyzed by people!? :) ) is the pure nihilistic world view of Tom Cruises character and therefore his actions and how he 'helps' Jamie who is stucked in his life.
Well - helping very 'temporarily' because he would have had to delete him …
tl;dr; really existential :) - as you wrote - a lot to think about
I've loved this movie for 2 decades now, and it is timeless.
Great movie. Approaching 20 years old but still feels very modern...Cruise awesome as a bad guy.
Far out, 20 years?!
@@andrewburgemeister6684 It turned 18 this year, so just 2 more years.
@@demian5631 yeah, but hard to believe time flies like that!
I rewatched Heat which TBR and Sam watched on this channel on my new 4K TV on the weekend, that’s nearly 30 years old which is even more crazy given how well it’s held up and how modern it looks with the 4K transfer!
I was born in 2004. I can't believe Collateral is 18 years old.
oh - and the scene where cruise confronts the "homies" taking his brief case - it's still held up by people who knows guns and shooting as one of the best examples of fast, unaimed shooting from the hip in movies. similar to how val kilmer's mag change in the middle of the firefight in heat is considered a prime example of how you should do that and is even used in training. seems like michael mann knows how to bring out strong "firearm performances" from his actors haha....
Great training from Mann's go-to trainer for actors. Guy is ex-SAS.
Mann as a director is very much like the late Tom Clancy in this regard.
The YT channel VickersTactical did a really good break down of that scene
Perfect excecution of a Mozambique drill. And also the scene where I learned about the drill.
I wish we got more movies with such good grounded gunplay.
I think Tom Cruise is a really good actor, but until this movie I was pretty much “over” him, mostly due to his off-screen shenanigans. This movie reminded me that it is sometimes worth it to separate the art from the artist.
I always think that if I'm going to recommend any Tom Cruise film to anyone, it would be Collateral. Like, if they really want to see him disappear into a character and not feel like Cruise acting, just watch this movie.
@@drlee2 Agreed. Or Magnolia.
Tropic Thunder, Collateral, Magnolia, Taps.
When Tom plays the heavy, he's not only brilliantly charismatic, but in all four cases he is ink blot darkly hilarious.
Next, you should check out The Insider (1999), which is also directed by Michael Mann. It's a true story about a whistleblower in the Tobacco Industry. Also it has Al Pacino and Russell Crowe.
Yes I've also been recommending The Insider. My fave Mann film other than Heat.
Would love to see TBR do The Insider. They'll have to choose it, though -- I don't think enough people have seen it for it to win a poll.
I recently paid to have another reactor do it. We'll see if it gets a TH-cam edit.
Nobody has reacted to this amazing film (since I last checked). About time it got the love it deserves.
Hope they will cover it at some point. Great Mann movie.
@@tylerfoster6267 u talkin about Mary? :P
Fun fact: that Coyote scene wasn’t planned. The director thought it would be cool to illustrate Vincent so they kept rolling
"Last of the Mohicans" is another great Michael Mann film. You two should definitely check it out; taking place in the 1800's, it's much different from his other work.
1750s before the American Revolution.
"Collateral" is in many ways a perfect movie. You'd struggle hard trying to find any meaningful flaws with it. I always answer this film whenever someone asks me what is Tom Cruise' best role too. He's an excellent villain, and the storytelling artistery in how they mirror the protagonist in the antagonist for this movie is filmmaking masterclass.
Was one of my favorite movies for a long time, but it does have some pacing issues.
Carting issues imo too
Jamie foxx acting is always weak imo
The final third is a bit too predictable when it switches to very standard action movie beats, unrealistically lucky moments and untrained competence that are typical in dumb action movies but which really stand out against the much more grounded, cerebral tone of the rest of the film. I actually would argue that the final fifteen minutes or so are seriously disappointing after such an amazingly controlled, intelligently written, finely acted thriller up until then.
@@Melancthon7332 this is actually a good point. I remember giving the movie an 8/10 on release, and mostly a 9/10 whenever I referencing it since, so it's never been actually fully clear to me why I have this irking' feeling the movie wasn't fully perfect.
I do not have issues with the pacing, so that wasn't it for me; but yeah. I think maybe the finale is the issue for the very reasons that Melanchton7332 points out. Quite frankly; Tom Cruise's character should at a minimum walked free, avoided the high risk and uneccessary confrontation, or at least disarmed Jamie Foxx's character.
I did enjoy the way he ultimately expires, but it sure does feel like a movie-ending, after what was ostensibly a much more grounded film up until the last 15 minutes.
Secondly, it needs a slight subtraction for Jamie Foxx's acting, or just the fact that he feels miscast.
A professional assassin gets outclassed by a cab driver with no combat history. It's an absurd ending.
Such a great film. This is a perfect example of a "midpoint collision" storyline, where the good guy and bad guy swap traits throughout the movie. Vincent starts hesitant and adapts well compare to Max, then when Max meets Felix, Max becomes those traits and Vincent becomes more hesitant to the end.
I was just reading a whole article about this actually. Vincent shows an actual adoration for Daniel’s music and life experience, and on some level laments having to kill him. But rather than letting his emotions get the best of him, Vincent chooses to carry out his job. Where Max has learned to change for the better, Vincent hasn't.
As surprising and sad as it was to see detective fanning get killed, it served the story beautifully. Max now has to get out of the situation on his own, and by doing so he'll have evolved from a guy who's always TALKING about doing, into someone who actually DOES.
On the other hand, when Max challenges Vincent, and asks why he is the way he is, Vincent realizes he doesn't have an answer.
Absolutely perfect description of a damn near perfect thriller with two fantastic character arcs.
I love this movie. BTW, Jamie Foxx was nominated for Best Supporting for Collateral, and Best Actor for Ray (and won) in the very same year. Awesome year for him.
The fact Foxx was nominated for this and Tom Cruse wasn't is a joke.
@@el34glo59 AGREED…. Cruise was Brilliant and deserved recognition
I think the studio was pushing Cruise for Best Actor. If they had been going for Best Supporting instead he probably would have been nominated at least.
That's disgusting. I can't believe anybody would take him seriously after he played Wanda.
@@samqualls1339 Also, 3 out of the 5 Best Actor nominees that year, including the winner Foxx, portrayed real people and the Academy tends to favor those types of performances in biopics over portrayals of fictional characters, unless it's some sad tearjerker movie or something. They love to give awards to sentimental movies where people cry a lot.
That club scene was a John Wick sequence ten years early. Overall I always loved how, I dunno...quaint this movie is. It's pretty low stakes but that leaves you hyper focused on the collision between our two main characters. For as much as Vincent espoused his own brand of "shit happens" nihilism, he ended up being the one too tied to his established patterns by the end.
@@WheresWaldo05 Lighten up Francis. Wick is still a great movie with great choreography. Your opinion is trash.
@@WheresWaldo05 Wow, I see your insults are just as pathetic and unoriginal as your opinions. Basement dweller and woke, two of the most overused insults today. You're just an all around sad, lame human being.
@@WheresWaldo05 Did you spell like a third grader high on gas fumes on purpose in order to troll, or are you literally just that mentally deficient?
The Insider next? Michael Mann and Russel Crowes best movie.
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Such a great movie!!!
Great movie and al pacino is in too
Agree, love the insider. Also follow up in the story of the insider in a way with Jason reitmans THANK YOU FOR SMOKING
Yeah, it's either The Insider or A Beautiful Mind for Crowes best movie.
Woah!! Never caught a video upload this early!! I feel so cool 😎 you two are fantastic and love all your commentaries, for movies I’ve seen, and movies I haven’t! Always a fresh perspective!
Vincent is a full-on psycho/sociopath. From the time he jumps in the cab he knows he's going to kill Max at the end of the night so there are no loose ends. Everything nice he does for Max is manipulation and is straight out of the psychopath/sociopath playbook. They disarm you with their charm. Tom Cruise and the writers did a phenomenal job with this character. Making you relax when you are in Vincent's circle, just like a butcher before the slaughter. Never let the animals see the knife.
I've spoke to people that actually thought Vincent would've let Max go at the end of the night lmfao.
Which just shows how great of a job Cruise did playing this part. Objectively speaking, everyone knows he’s killing Max in the end. But as an audience we all hope and think, just maybe he won’t.
Yeah I believed there was a moment he may have let him go, but that's how good Cruise is, because, yeah eventually Vincent would have killed him.
this is one of my all time favorite movies and I'm soo happy you guys are watching this!!!
One of my all time favorite movies. The part that doesn't make sense though is why Vincent put Ramon's body in the trunk. He didn't bother to hide the lawyer's body, or the jazz guy or the two in the alley. It seems like Ramon was put in the trunk only because later on, they needed the cop to see a body in the trunk.
Omg while watching this reaction right at the part of the broken windshield I got a satélite windshield repair ad. Lol TH-cam be scary watching the reactions with me. Love you guys, keep up the reactions.
Such an underrated movie! One of my favorites, for sure. Couple fun facts from IMDb:
- "If you look closely, you can see how Vincent, a trained killer, was unable to shoot Max, a normal cab driver. Max was firing wildly, but Vincent was using his signature precision shooting of two hits to the chest and one in the head. These shots hit the metal barrier in the middle of the door, and hence missed Max. You can see the bullet indentations in a few of the scenes. Max just got lucky with his random firing."
- "Jason Statham's cameo is often regarded as being his character Frank Martin from The Transporter (2002) and its sequels. He delivers a bag to Vincent at the airport and then disappears, no questions asked."
Tom Cruise doesn't get the credit for his acting skills, that little crazy sob can do drama and we haven't seen him as the villain a lot but he's an awesome bad guy. I highly recommend one of his earliest roles in Taps and he steals every scene in Interview with the Vampire.
"It's beautiful man!!"
Fun little note about the final shootout on the subway, Max fired wildely and hit Vincent, Vincent fired like a pro (2 to the chest, 1 to the head) instinctively but his shots hit the door of the subway as Max was perfectly behind it.
I never thought this film received the recognition it deserved. It's great to see you guys enjoyed it. Good commentary. Good reaction. I saw a documentary about this film many years ago. One section covered all the many cabs they used throughout the film to maintain a consistent color scheme since - based on lighting from lamps and other street lights - the cab's colors and hues would change. Fascinating stuff. Gave me a fresh appreciation for the minutiae of movie making.
That beautiful relaxing music at the start is Bach's "Air on the G String," by the way.
Fun fact: when the cab pulls away from the night club (after the shootout) and grinds the cab against the other cars, that wasn't planned. Jaime Foxx just messed up when pulling away and clipped the other cars. He's joked since, "This is why you never see actors do their own driving."
Glad you guys watched this one. It deserves more credit/attention tbh.
Glad you guys got to watch Collateral one of my favorite Tom Cruise movies next to Top Gun, Days Of Thunder, A Few Good Men and Top Gun:Maverick among others. Collateral definitely a change from Cruises typical characters he plays and good to see him play darker role as the villain with being a sociopathic hitman.
Great movie. Jamie Foxx was actually nominated for an Academy for best supporting actor for this role, same year he won best actor for Ray. Jason Statham is actually playing Frank Martin, the same character he plays from the Transporter.
33:38 Yes, it was Tom Cruise, and yes, it was not supposed to happen, it was one of the takes in which he accidentally tripped and Michael Mann decided to use this one specifically to show how collected and stone cold Vincent starts to lose it. Also the coyote crossing your path is supposedly an omen of bad luck and impending doom.
This was an excellent efficiently edited and paced re-watchable reaction, guys! I wonder if you'd and I do recommend Michael Mann's stylish Miami Vice remake. It's got good worthy hooks to it. Vincent was a deadly life coach! Oh, the discount thing! Max's improvisation was life or death full-dive awesomeness but when he did the not so hard-hitting discount and then even lower, held my breath that he overplayed his hand with his cover.
Heat, Collateral, Se7en. You’re working through my favorite genre. Neo Noir. 😅 Also, I read the screenplay to this back in the day. 2 interesting things about it. 1. When Vincent gets threatened by the guys in the alley, the screenplay read “The thug holds his gun sideways like they see on Mtv.” Then they take a double tap. And second, the following scene at the gas station, Vincent calls the people Max gets killed Collateral. And Max asks “Am I collateral?” Vincent replies “I haven’t decided yet.” The entire conversation that is the reason for the title of the film for some reason is cut.
Fun "fact": While never actually confirmed or denied by Mann, most believe that Statham's character here is literally his Transporter character Frank Martin on a job. Sorry if this has been mentioned already, scrolled through a few of the 300+ comments and didn't see it.
It is
Mann literally took a video camera and confidently blended the scenes with a film camera for lighter shoots. That's a sign of a gifted filmmaker. Under most hands, this would've looked amateur hour but somehow the dude made it work. Jarring at first, but to use it in the dirty, grimy look of nightly LA was an ace creative choice.
I've always loved the look when they're inside the cab, it almost looks like CGI at times when looking over the steering wheel at Jamie Foxx
Most shaky cam movies distract me, but the way Mann did it in this movie felt right.
If you think about it, the camera shots follow Max's life. At first they are very tight, limited in the cab, not much else. Over the course of the movie the shots with him get wider and more expansive as the character grows beyond the cab.
@@Drforrester31 The director Michael Mann says this was one of the first Hollywood films to use digital film to achieve a look that only digital film was capable of - instead of trying to make digital film look like celluloid film. Without digital film, there is no way Mann could have shot this movie at night with so many low-lighting situations - which is easily 80% of it. It just looks so DAMN good.
@@AJR-zg2py Miami Vice is somewhat similar.
Fun Fact: Jason Statham cameo in the beginning is a nod to the transporter movies.
Fun mirrors between Heat and Collateral:
Both take place in LA
Heat begins in a Train and ends in an Airport. Collateral begins in an Airport and ends in a Train.
Here are some recommendations for 3 more outstanding Michael Mann films: THIEF with James Caan, THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS with Daniel Day-Lewis, and THE INSIDER with Russell Crowe and Al Pacino!!
Yes! This is one of my favourite films, and easily my favourite Tom Cruise performance - his trademark intensity serves him so well in a villainous role. I'm reminded of Henry Fonda playing against type as the despicable Frank in Once Upon A Time in the West (which is another masterpiece that I hope you'll eventually get around to if you ever feel like a Western). Love your content as always!
Great comparison of Cruise and Fonda doing villain turns
I just saw Once Upon a Time in the West the other day after having not seen it in years. Great movie!
I read something a while back that Robert De Niro's character in Heat and Tom Cuise's character in Collateral are related, brothers even. They kinda also look and dress alike in those 2 movies.
In Heat, the movie starts on the train and ends at the airport. In Collateral, the movie starts at the airport and ends on the train.
Very interesting
This movie makes me sad that so far, we've never got any more movies were Tom Cruise plays the bad guy. He's *so* good at projecting menace and threat as an actor. It's such a shame.
Statham is supposed to be a cameo as Frank Martin, his character from The Transporter.
Cruise tripping over the chair was not suppose to happen, it was an accident. But Cruise kept going and the director left it in as is
Tightest script ever, given life by one of the most technically disciplined directors ever.
If you're going full Michael Mann, may's well check out "Last of the Mohicans" and "Public Enemies".
I totally am surprised that they haven’t done The Last Of The Mohicans. TBR Schmitt, you guys definitely need to do this film.
Tom Cruise as a antagonistic hit man was such a refreshing role for him at this time. Love this film and thanks for keeping me company with your reaction on this cold night where I'm located. Hope you guys have a good night and evening
One of my all time favorite films alongside Heat.
Michael Mann was Miami Vice tried to create the same, feel in Los Angeles with his movies, multicultural, and that sexy feeling
I believe this was Jason Statham's cameo as Frank Martin, the same character he portrayed in The Transporter
My favorite scene is the pause when, totally unplanned, a coyote appears on the city streets in front of them. So glad Mann left it in the movie.
That was some real ass movie magic.
Mine too - it totally unnerves Vincent, and he has nothing to say. Perfect song choice too.
The scene with the wolves was a happy accident, they where just there while they where filming. Also Tom Cruise's look was to make him like a silver fox, a cunning hunter.
Great insights after the film as usual guys. Thief was mentioned and that one is very interesting because it was Mann's first feature film, very much the beginning of his "style". For more action and more Foxx, Miami Vice is one to watch. I also don't understand why it gets put down, I thoroughly enjoyed it ... and it has a shootout that rivals, if not surpasses, the Heat shootout. And also as mentioned, The Insider is a suspenseful telling of a true story with great performances from Crowe, Pacino, and Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes.
How did I miss you watching this masterpiece? Michael Mann is the man. Try Miami Vice. Beautifully shot.
Went to the theater to see some movie that was sold out and went to watch this. Instant favorite
You guys should check out last of the mohicans ( micheal mann ) Daniel day lewis . Hans Zimmer soundtrack. Amazing historical war movie. Colonial America
One of the few times if not the only time Tom Cruise played a villain and he absolutely nailed it. One of the most underrated films of the last two decades
Thinking about it lately, looking at all the performances and range of actors...
I think Tom Cruise is literally my favorite actor. This movie, Interview with the Vampire, Tropic Thunder, Edge of Tomorrow, The Last Samurai, Jerry Maguire, Rain Man...
Tom Cruise just makes you believe his performances. I don't think I've seen a movie with him where he did a bad job.
Then again... Gary Oldman has so many varied roles... 🤔 but a lot of them were cheesy... 😒 yeah, Tom Cruise is better...
...but now Robin Williams...makes you laugh, cry... 🤔
Ok, idk who my favorite is. Changes day to day like your favorite song right?
Unpopular opinion, but Cruise is also my favorite actor. He's a better actor than given credit for and like you say, he's done a variety of roles and has acted well in all of them. He has films across many genres that are entertaining and re-watchable, which is something that even some of the best actors can't lay claim to. I'd say my 3 favorite Cruise films are Collateral, Mission Impossible, and Risky Business. Also, I think he should have won Best Actor for both Jerry Maguire and Collateral.
Its the performances that have always made Collateral stand out to me. First and pretty much only time Tom Cruise has played a outright villain and protagonist. He kills it(like Vincent lol). Jamie Fox is acting his ass of as well. Can't take your eyes of either one. 👍🏻
It reminds me of Henry Fonda playing a villain in Once Upon a Time in the West. It was the only time he played a bad guy and it was one of his best performances.
I saw this in theaters in Phoenix on vacation in 2004 when I was 19. Been a favorite of mine ever since.
Watching movies w you two is so much fun
Love this film and the soundtrack is also incredible. Great reaction too, so glad people are appreciating it still... seemed like many forgot it for a while.
The scene at the discoteque is fantastic, with Paul Oakenfields' massive score over it. Ready, Steady, Go!
I haven't put my finger on it, but I really like this movie. I don't know how many times I've seen it. I can explain why I like The Usual Suspects, Se7en, Sideways, Brick, etc easily, but if asked why I like this so much I don't have my response readily available.
There's something about it that gets me.
Ok. A Michael Mann movie, Thief (1981), James Caan, James Belushi, Robert Prosky (from the movie Christine). Need I say more????
Now for the next Michael Mann film; "Thief" ! It's probably my favorite of his and objectivly among his best, if not THE best!
Collateral is one of my all time favorite films! Highly underrated.
NOT UNDERRATED! It did over $200M in box office and 86% on RT
@@jleddy And yet, they're still a whole lot of people that still don't know about the film.
That was his best role he made me for the first time like the villain he is nice and cold at the same time makes me sad and still smilling sad ending
Cruise needs to "villain it up" more often 👍👍
Yes!! My favourite reaction channel is going to react to one of my favourite movies of one of my favourite directors! 🥳. Regards from Argentina! 👏🏻
Mystic River is a great movie. Directed by Clint Eastwood
this was one of the first big movies that were shot on video. you can tell the limitations of it by how noisy the image looks sometimes. but what the tech bought them was the ability to shoot in ambient light at night without massive lighting setups. some of those shots where they're moving around on the streets or when you're looking into a 16 story building from 3 stories up, or just looking out the cab window at the city at night - that kind of stuff would have been EXTREMELY difficult to pull of on film. film needs a looooooot of light and some kinds of setups end up being plain impossible between how much light you need and how much you want/need in focus. even amateur video cameras were always pretty good at shooting in low light and for the first time, you get some of those advantages on the big screen. but considering this was the early days, the image doesn't look great all the time.
these kinds of shots are pretty common place now and look great because of how far we've advanced with professional digital cinematography. but at the time, this was some ground breaking stuff.
mann continues his ground breaking push with digital cinematography in miami vice which continues to take advantage of digital's low light capability.
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in terms of story, vincent spoke a lot of truth to max. i think it's the case where vincent is definitely the antagonist and a bad person but he saw some things correctly and saw max's flaws accurately and gave him some hard facts. the thing about max's inability to get started on his dreams is something i still think about.
One of my favourite movies, glad you guys watched it. The story Javier Bardem “Felix” tells Max gives me chills every time “how upset do you think jolly old St. Nick would be if one day Pedro came into his office and said he lost the list, how F***ING furious do you think he would get.. tell me Vincent!
Bardem crushed that cameo scene.
I love your movie choices guys. Collateral is another one I recommended to you after watching Heat. You keep doing my film suggestions and I love it. It's most likely because many others are suggesting the same films. But I'd like to take full credit anyway. Thanks and keep up the great work!
This Movie is definitely overlooked by most..I loved it
Love movies that take place mostly at night. MM is one of the best to that type of stuff
Tom Cruise+ Jamie Foxx+ Michael Mann = Perfect film!
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It is why I subscribed as well. They're very enjoyable.
Jamie Foxx is great in this, as is Tom Cruise. Love your reactions..
I'm seeing more and more TH-cam reactors reacting to Collateral. This is a very good thing. Great reaction! 👍 One of Tom Cruise's and Jamie Foxx's best acting performances onscreen.
Last of the Mohicans and Ali are MUST SEE Mann movies. Public Enemies, The Insider and Thief are very good as well. Miami Vice and Blackhat are entertaining but non-essential. The Keep is ... okay, but it got chopped to hell by the studio without Mann's approval; there's a director's cut out there someone, apparently, but no-one's ever gotten a good look at it, so we're waiting for it to get a proper release to see if it's really worthwhile.
His recent series Tokyo Vice is worth checking out too, reckon you guys would definigtely get a kick out of it. It just got greenlit for a second season too.
You should try the Miami Vice movie with Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx. It doesn’t get much love compared to the 80’s tv show but I thought it was a fun, stylized, and faithful adaptation. Great score, too.
Was gonna recommend Vice as well as 2009's Public enemies in comments but, these guy's have a list that's probably sooo long I didn't even bother.. but yeah, 100% they should watch Vice.. like tomorrow.. if it was up to me..
I think people expected the same vibe as the Miami Vice TV show, which was fun and somewhat campy, but the film played it 1000% serious. I love the movie and hope they watch it!
If you re-watch the Vice series which was created and produced by Mann, there is a lot of darkness. There were just limitations placed on it because it was network television in the eighties. So in a way, Mann got to finally make the Miami Vice he always wanted.
There were times where Mann was able to show what Miami Vice was supposed to be: arguably, the best episode was titled "Out Where The Buses Don't Run": if you haven't seen that one, I highly reccomend it.
Oh yeah. Beautifully shot. 100% Michael Mann. Should treat yourself to this.
"you open that trunk...they go inside"
class dialogue and a brilliant film.
You’re right about Tom Cruise doing his own stunts it’s pretty impressive. The running and jumping and he really did kill those guys that robbed Max in the movie just to keep it authentic.
Jason Statham as Frank Martin from the Transporter movies. Not sure if he is really playing that character in this movie. Still wouldn't it be cool as hell if that is what Michael Mann intended.
I'm blown away by Michael Mann's style. Although not as good, Miami Vice is certainly worth the watch just for the style.
The characters got me into MV.
Best Tom Cruise role alongside The Last Samurai for me. Just found you guys, great reaction^^
That gun briefcase scene is so good and brutal.
My personal list of fave Tom Cruise films...
1) Born on the 4th of July (War film)
2) Cocktail (with Elisabeth Shue)
3) Interview with A Vampire
4) Jerry Maguire
5) Magnolia
6) Vanilla Sky
7) The Last Samurai (his best in my opinion)
The character arcs in this movie are so subtle and magnificent. In the end Vincent loses because he sticks to a routine while Max improvises and wins. The irony is that max followed routine with dogmatic fervor and it's the time spent with Vincent that teach him to improvise. It Brings all of their conversations full circle, and ultimately saves Max's life saved during the meeting with Felix, and again it saved his life in the shootout.
You guys are killing it. Keep up the great work.
Excellent commentary and analysis, as per usual. Keep up the stellar work you two.
One of the many, many things that makes Michael Mann's thrillers (Manhunter, Heat, Collateral) great is that there's always pathos to go with the catharsis when the villain finally gets it. In each of those three stories, the bad guy has done terrible things and part of you is glad that he's gotten his comeuppance, but there's always a hint of sadness too; this is a human life that has been ended, a person who was probably loved by someone at some point, a person whose life could have gone differently. You can even see it in the reactions of (respectively) William L. Petersen, Al Pacino, and Jamie Foxx in the movies' epilogues; not one of them is happy about what he's had to do.