Math Hoffa on Drake's "Taylor Made Freestyle": Is AI 2Pac Any Different Than Hologram 2Pac? (Part 6)
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Math Hoffa discussed Drake's recent "Taylor Made Freestyle" and the broader implications of AI performances in Hip-Hop music. Hoffa distinguishes between hologram performances, likening them to AI 2Pac, comparing the gimmicky nature, particularly as seen in Drake's freestyle. Nevertheless, he respects Drake's approach and his integration of AI features into his work, signifying innovation. Furthermore, Hoffa considers the possible strategic implications of Drake's choices. The conversation touched on the delicate balance between creativity and respect for the genre's giants. - บันเทิง
Math tryna keep that Drake relationship safe
Exactly man glad someone said it. All these cats taking up for Drake getting bodied scared to lose that relationship.
Or maybe… hear me out.. maybe that’s just how he feels. Maybe? Just saying.
Drake got something that none of these will ever have. And they know that. So does he. Just can’t actually say it
Bottom line.
New York representatives Mr Hoffa, Mase and Camron 😂
It’s many ways to look at it but the fact is PAC’s influence was so huge that we’re all still talking about him today, RIP to one of the greatest artists of all time
Stop glazing lol
@@KeefeDAnderson praise turned into glazing recently yall sound slow
@@eastbaybarojas4234 u still glazing on hiz donut
VLAD ACTING LIKE HIS MUSIC OPINION REALLY MATTERS 😂😂😂
RIGHT SMH
Vlad has forgot more than you know about music
That's da sht dat makes me mad asf
You on his channel listening … apparently it does to you 😂😂😂
@@KyleSLFC 😂😂 STFU and get off your knees
The hologram was playin Tupac SONGS.
AI was performing under the context of a whole new Tupac verse. Impossible to do due the humanoid creativity in the process.
Tupac wasn't ever creative on any of hiz studi0gayster songs 😂
humanoid lol
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 wasn’t creative huh! lol
@@Worldbeaters290 duh
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862Pac wasn’t creative???? Cmon man lol
Battle rappers never talk down on drake
But I don’t know why they never critic him for having a ghost writer🤔
Gotta keep that relationship open drake tossed a couple guys $$$$
Because some of them also have writers and some wanna be his writers
Looking fir a check
Math is legit dumb
Why because he defended Drake?
@@ChunkGames no he said a hologram concert is the same as using ai in a rap battle stop it
@@haezeushawkins436 saying a battle rapper for over 20 years opinion in a rap battle is dumb is crazy
@@haezeushawkins436 his explanation makes sense. Let’s be honest, if Kendrick did it y’all would claim it’s the greatest thing ever
A battle rapper talking about a battle is dumb by a person who can’t write a fire 16🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 makes sense
As much as I dislike Vlad one thing his always gonna do is stick up for 2pac 💯
While 2pac gets sticked up by real street gs lol
Only susspect guyz stickup 4 pac
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 what do u know about real gs ur daddy was a fake g 😭😭😭 it’s in ur blood to be sweet
@@SK-kp2qq it suckz yo keyboard fingertips have no action lll🤣
@@SK-kp2qq lmao I’m glad I’m not the only one who knows about Jalen Wilson’s fake “Avery” persona & loser dead(beat) dad who he claims but never even met 😂
You ever seen the video of Jalen hugging all up on his beloved?white pastor?
He just a sweet church boy, pretending to be something gangsta that he’s not & that’s why he hates 2pac for being “fake” cuz it reminds him of himself.
Doing a hologram of Pac rapping his own songs is not the same as using AI to have Pac rap things that he never rapped. I doubt that Math would be cool if people made AI clips of himself saying things that he'd never say himself.
If he's dead he can't get mad.
It was never meant to be respectful to Pac. It was meant to be disrespectful to Pac and Kendrick and the west. He clearly didn’t care what Pac would’ve thought about it
Stop letting vlads tweets go viral, he won’t stop mentioning it
Vlad can never just say “you got a point.” It’s always “that’s just my opinion.”
He literally says that, A LOT.
Drake is NOT 2PAC AND NEVER WILL BE CONSIDERED AMONG ONE OF THE GREATS. 2PAC WASNT JUST GREAT BUT EXTREMELY TALENTED AND SMART. FOR THOSE OF WHO KNOW, 2PAC PERSONALLY WOULD TELL YOU A DRAKE COLLAB OR FRIENDSHIP WOULD BE NEXT TO NONE IF 2PAC WAS STILL ALIVE. HE WAS SERIOUS ABOUT HIS MUSIC AND ANYONE WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE WORK ETHIC AND LYRICAL VERSATILITY. THIS MAN WAS A BEAST IN THE STUDIO AND WROTE ALL HIS OWN LYRICS. THERE WAS NO GHOST WRITERS. 2PAC LEARNED HIS PEN GAME FROM AFENI/ MUTULU/ ASSATA SHAKUR.
enough said!!!!
He got stuck in a role after playing bishop how is that respectable?
@Alexxtooraw 2pac was not Bishop. 2pac was an actor and playing a role. Is Deniro or Pacino a gangster. Absolutely NOT!. But, 2pac was not Bishop, nor was he any other person. 2pac did not have a Dissasoctive personality disorder or any other mental illness. 2pac great is a direct result of Black Panther Party. His mother Afeni/ Billy Garland/Dr. Mutulu Shakur / Assata Shakur and Queen Panther Yasmyn Fula. All influenced 2pac career and lyrical ability and writing style.
@@Alexxtooraw all these artist are playing a character.
Agreed w/ Hoff!!
It’s the same sh*t, though Drakes usage of Pac AI voice is cringe. A dead rapper on a diss track reciting lyrics that you know they’re not saying themselves is super cringe.
Pac screaming thuglyfe and Westside on tracks was alwayz more cringy 😖
Pac always sounded lik stryofoam to my ears..ugh
Was Pac likeness being used in the heart pt. 5 corny?
@@moballardful Pacs likeness wasn’t used, lol. Watch the video first. Even in that video it was at least tasteful and metaphorical. Unlike having a dead rapper perform lyrics you know they didn’t write or record. Using dead artists is cringe enough, at least in Coachella was decently tasteful, Pacs real voice was used but it was kept short.
It very different. drake not only never knew 2Pac but his mother has also passed on now as well. 'Pac also would never do a song with such a feminine, phony, weirdo. So this is a bizarre and trash perspective.
But unlike drake, you are just a keyboard fanboy tht was born yesterday and have no association to 2pac nor afenis estate to comment 😹
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 And you're just a mentally ill batty bwoy obsessed with 2pac.Guh sym
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 Not a chance, nerd. You have no idea who you're talking to. Probly bumped my shit but act like you know. Go paint your nailz, kiddo
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 and unlike drake, drake aint pac
@@quirijn3865 drake doesn't need to be a closet studi0gayster lol
Newyork city dudes despise Tupac😂🤦♂️
MATH HOFFA COULDNT SCIENCE STRING THEORY WITHOUT VANTRILOQUISTS
Math Hoffa is stupid for this, you're talking about someone who never met Pac just using his character whereas with the hologram Dre and Snoop paid homage to Pac because they actually knew him and regardless of how it ended at one time they were close.
thanks for sharing, you inspired me to try something new
You know you’re trash when an AI Pac can’t save your song.
He used the Ai not to save his song it was to push Kendrick to respond back to drake’s diss towards him
Pac couldn't even save himself from losing hiz wigpieces 😂
@@kevinkiptoo1pac needed other dudes to help him diss Ppl on hiz songs
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 Shouldn’t you be in church lil Jalen? Your white pastor wants another one of those big hugs you love to give him
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 Ya daddy couldn't save himself from getting sacrificed on that prison floor neither.
It was very creative and skilled using modern tech. Anything else you feeling after that is a reach
That part was kinda deep..but it's just art AGAIN this is just 🎨
Kendrick wife is half white like Drake so maybe she married Kendrick to feel more black😂😅😂
Whitney is not half black. Her Dad is Black and her Mother is half black. In America that's Black. She's no different than Deion Sanders kids.
The difference is that Dre and snoop from la and actually had a positive relationship with pac at some point
Math’s point is valid. He is a battle rapper and they use a lot of gimmicks during battle. Using AI was very dope and Kendrick used a form of it morphing into Nipsey Hussle and others in “The Heart Part 5”
Disrespectful
Kendrick use of Nipsey was greenlit and most importantly it was used in a way that preserved who Nipsey was, Drake used Tupac to defend himself against disses pertaining to his disgusting interactions with young GIRLS. That’s a big difference that too many defending this aren’t willing to talk about
Agreed
Math wrong on this take. It's not the same drake used it to get the upper hand on a diss track.
Yall don’t understand battle rap it’s okay
@kfine55e13 who is yall
@@kfine55e13these aren’t battle rappers.. battle rappers say fake sh*t so it’s cool for them to use AI.. it’s not cool for real lyricists.
TaylorMade is 🔥. Kendrick is trash
@@flatbkush6 if you say so
The beat was hard af. It was also named that because he "Tailor made" it with AI
Duh
@@tommyirie Vlad doesn't know that
The hologram was approved by his estate the AI wasn’t that’s the different and he knw he couldn’t get snoop to go against Kendrick drake should of kept it in the hard drive
This aged badly...
Not really
it aged fine given what he was eluding to, the pac AI was a tactic to force Kendrick to drop....it did exactly that.
@@MonstarCaveThe AI song did not make Kendrick drop Euphoria lol. Kendrick was going to drop a reply regardless. Stop it.
@@citypopradioFM so you think Kendrick drops 2 songs without Taylor made freestyle?
I definitely don’t agree with Math on this topic
Hoff crazy for this one
Someone needs to tell Math that his boy got bodied by K Dot a few hours ago. The milk I have in my fridge for 5 days is fresher than this take
I wish I could hear math now that kdot dropped
Drake using AI is basically the samething as SuperNatural mimicking Biggies voice in a rap battle
This idea that Kendrick is a revolutionary is false…never has Kendrick come off as holier than thou
Math hold an L for this clip. It’s a smack in the face to use the likeness of someone. Let see how he would feel if His likeness was used for something that he’s not ok with.
You heard his point though right? Kendrick “used the likeness” of multiple someones in The Heart Part 5 and everybody thought it was dope. Drake does it and everybody thinks it’s corny lame just because of who did it 😂
@@joojoobaw there’s an obvious difference between getting the green light to use someone’s likeness because it is done respectfully and it is done with the intention of preserving that person’s likeness and using someone’s likeness that isn’t approved of and not in step with the way they moved in real life. Drake used Tupac to prevent Kendrick from talking about his questionable behavior with young girls (allegations that Drake has never talked about) that alone is some petty shit that no self respecting man would do. To put it another light imagine instead of using Tupac’s voice he said it in his own voice, everyone would be clowning on him. Not to even mention the fact that Drake’s voice was used to make a fake song and he came out against it, now he’s doing it to prevent possible disses coming his way? That’s some shit that should’ve disqualified him from the jump
@@joojoobaw the imagery is cool…and of course he had to go through proper channels to get the ok to do it. Drake probably didn’t do his due diligence. Also snoop alive lol so when I first heard that…I was thinking why use an A.I snoop to do a diss record Al when you know damn well snoop would never hop on a track with Drake. Also A.I maybe cool but the human touch will always exceed it
@@antoinejunior3353 good point lol I mean we don’t know for a fact that Drake didn’t permission from anybody on that, but I’m gonna assume he did NOT 😂
Just saying I agree with Math’s point that AI can either be a nice creative touch, or corny as hell, depending on who uses it & how. Like you said, it’s not inherently bad
@joojoobaw If drake had permission then the estate wouldn't have told his ass to take it down.
These interviews are ageing like milk 🥛
Drake not in the culture enough to be having AI Tupac diss Kendrick
Vlad just as lame as the Taylor made shit
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😭😭😭
U still checkin for him tho
@@Tech_-on1ou Man U taking up for Vlad bro
@@Tech_-on1ou and I Neva said I ain’t like some of his content I jus said he lame smh u internet mf maaaan
Vlad hatin on Drake
I forgot about the murda moon battle
Vlad just discredited himself by asking is that why it’s called Taylor made 🤦🏾♂️🙄
I thought this was Ray J for a second
If Kendrick used AI Tupac his fans would have said it was genius. Period. Stop the cap.
There should be an AI Tupac for pacs fanboys to date in hiz closet lol
kendrick would never and nah ion think they would have
@@NolyfeDnote Didn't Kendrick use an AI or Hologram of Pac in a video? Didn't Kendrick make it seem like he was interviewing Tupac or something Like That? So why are folks clutching their pearls now?
@@fredrickjohnson9473 yea, so he can really go in on pac lol
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 hell yeah that's my whole point both of them died like goofy lol
Clearly he’s a drake fan 🤦🏾♂️
AI is the new ghostwriter
Vlad mad because Drake interviewed with Nardwuar over him 😂
Why can’t people understand Taylor made was him trolling. Y’all taking it too seriously. Everybody knows PAC is Kendrick’s idol. He used pac to make a feeling of him letting the west coast down.
Drake's response was terrible
DIZASTER RAG DOLLED MATH ALL OVER THE FLOOR HAHAHAH
Hologram/CGI the artist is using their lyrics. Their words.
A.I. is totally different. Huge L for Drake. He can't be in a 🐐 conversation after that
They all know drake has an inside track with the guys that actually sign the checks
Kendrick is the king of Newyork 😂
When All The Dust Settles...... Ya'll Will See How Much Drake Benefitted The Culture 💪⛓
Math had an album and merch called pac juice pause lol
That's why I'm not mad at Drake for Taylor made freestyle he is kinda mocking the AI as well & it's still Drake's bars just using their voice it was brilliant🔥💯
No
@@gcforrealGet your low iQ ass off the internet
I didn't like the A.I. but the creativity must be given some credit. It was witty and unexpected, I just didn't like how he put snoop in it, that didn't make any sense at all.
It was stupid...because i could have told Drake what was going to happen 5 years ago😂 before AI. Juice wasnt worth the squeeze. How he couldnt see it not going over well, behoooves me. Behooves😂
Kdot Won after last night end of discussion.
Meet the Grahams was the ONLY diss track I liked from Kendrick, but Drake still up 3-1😂
Someone had to ghost write those lyrics for Tupac and with the hologram one of pac’s biggest songs is featuring Dre how the hologram not gonna shout out Dre and how u know that if pac was alive somewhere along the lines snoop would have got pac and Dre to talk and be cool? It’s definitely not the same
Drake made a good song
Opinions aren't wrong nor right
Rappers when dissing don't use PAC name in fame just like NAS did to JAY-Z in either just write your own don't ghost writer try to make yours
Vlad used TUPAC on Rap Phenomenon.. that was gimmicky my boy …
Damn, this convo didn’t age well
why is this even a conversation? Drake did what he did to poke at Kendrick and it was funny. It’s a battle, they will always come up with something interesting or petty, little is off the table
I’m not a Drake fan but feel the Ai thing was a dope concept for a diss. My only complaint is made 2pac sound wack with the Drake flow. Should’ve kept it with ‘PAC’s real flow
Damn Math Hoffa got Punched and it Shows! I agree with Vlad 100%
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Vlad. You’re a visitor in this culture. Nobody cares what you think about battle rap. Slow your role.
I agree Vlad
Salute to my brother Math 🙏🏾 💯
This vlad guy hates drizzy so much its actually so sad to see his bias
math dnt fuk wit pac, buddy always shading lowkey
So
@@1Eashawty exactly
I got more followers than vlad and math put together.
Think about it.
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Vlad right that song corny disrespectful to pac legacy and Drake didn't pay snoop or even ask him to use voice
HOLLOGRAM TUPAC WOULD BEAT BASQUIAT JAY IN A VERSUS.
2pac would lose against drake on a beef too lol
Yo if you listen to Taylor made freestyle sound like drake flow on the 2pac and Snoop voice
That AI pac sounds like the real pac from tht ballet interview😅
As much as people want to hate on Drake the majority loves him it just is what it is , as a fan of both I’d say Drake is winning , but no one just straight up won ! It’s still time
Vlad is either slow af or doing extra hating cause the Drake ai diss was clever.
No jumper taking all ur motion my guy
Math is as corny as Drake with his defense of that song. Hologram Tupac - performed his own music, yeah he may have given an ups to Dre but at the end of the day that was given the green light, Nipsey being used was also given the green light and most importantly his likeness was used in a manner that actually lines up with the way Nipsey moved in real life. Drake used Tupac and Snoop in a way that they’d have never moved in real life and most importantly Tupac’s likeness was used to prevent attacks on how Drake has had questionable interactions with young girls (emphasis on GIRLS), which is something he’s never even spoken to in real life but decided to include in this song. That shit is corny, if Drake would’ve used his own voice to talk about the subject matters that he used Tupac’s voice to talk about we would’ve all called it out for what it is a corny desperate preventative measure to save character
VLAD DONT MATTER IN THIS THING OF OURS
Taylor Made freestyle is actually underrated. Drake was going off on that last verse
Drake is getting cooked right now Kendrick is cooking him .Drake some people’s goat 🐐 is looking like a cushion nice and soft 🤭🤭🤣🤣
It’s clearly math know but it’s a lot of drake hate
Matt just going against the west
What does fake TK Kirkland have to say about this?
Drake vs Murda Mook come on 😂 he'll get washed worse than Joe Budden did
Vlad even a third grader know it’s a double entendre. Tailor made for KDot unlike pushups & Taylor made him not to drop that week.
Math did the math 🧮
Bro that diss was 🚮 straight up and down 💯
Drake was out of pocket
Is it just me or is Vlad getting more loud and obnoxious?
I MOSTLY AGREE WITH MATH BUT HES TRIPPING ON THIS ONE!
The AI 2pac is even more realer than the oREALginal 2pac 😂
That’s what yo mama said about me 😂😂😂
@@woowoo9637 but u couldn't keep up lol
them ny nighas trynna keep that drake door open 😂 that ai was weak
Math is kinda dumb modern culture is screwed
Math love Drake
S/O vlad I agree with him for once