@ I don’t agree. You can easily creep them up to lvl2 or even lvl3. A Panda or pit lord is the choice, especially pit lord with his damage mitigation skill.
i have same opinion. Not only aboud warden, but any race would benefit from 3rd hero when 1st reach lvl 5 (scale become so slow, it's easier to get lvl 3 with 3rd hero than from 5 to 6 for 1st)
@@tomsoyer5639 when you are creeping for items after lvl5, why not have a pit lord as a 2nd so you don’t waste the XP. Pit lord is tanky and has howl of terror?
He can’t beat tier 1 players doesn’t necessarily mean he couldn’t beat anyone. If I’m not wrong he’s consistently been top 8 in most series, and currently top 11 in elo ranking. This should say he still got a fair ratio of winnings. Should he retires while he’s still earning?
because he is a top elf player? this month he has beaten sok, colorful, fortitude, kaho, laby. he is probably the best elf in mirror and against human right now
I saw some Warden inefficiencies. Just walking back to base to take mana.. in this time Moon lose some units. Such “small” thinks make a big difference. Build a shop, use bears for health… Of course, it is easy for me as observer. Just NE does not play perfect, so I can say game is unbalanced.
Don't think he could have won, but he blew his first avatar doing nothing, and he was also out of position pretty consistently. Sacrificing his expo a third time to kill 3 acolytes makes no sense.
exactly, i had no troubles to kill ud with such heroes. Even warden-dh is good. Still panda was nerfed back then, but some nerfs reverted in past few years, so panda must be still good 2nd choice.
0:09:13 same food (+4), but ud have 2 scrolls and fight ne. after battle, same food difference (+4), but ud lost all his mana, health and both scrolls. NE dont even dry a single moonwell. and all of this is with comments like "how did ne whould deal with wyrms?" "ud damage is through the roof" etc. Wtf, absolutely not stacking with what happening on the screen.
it's not the bears, its dryads who are the weak spot: destroyer/wyrms > bears > fiends > dryads > destroyer/wyrms but dryads are zerodps glasscanons, which cant deal enough damage to destroyers to prevent them to kill bears. So NE need to go hyppos/ravens but it took different tech (ie time+resources) to add/switch.
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The game balance is so bad that I really want to see what would happen if an AI played NE
Night Elf players finally feeling what it's like to be the Orc player in a matchup against them.
Moon lasted almost thirty min each game give him an award
Especially 2nd game with 1 base only is crazy
Those UD vs NE games are just painful to watch. You feel NE is trying to pull some miracle while UD is just playing their standard game and winning.
standart wyrms ok
standart hgm vs ne ok
I love wyrms so much!
Illidan, Panda, Pitlord, Bears 2F.dragons + driads or huntress
Once the warden reaches level 5 it’s better to have a 2nd and even a third hero, so you won’t waste XP when creeping. Just my opinion.
Its a lvl 1 heroe, its 425 gold and just dies and gives experience.
@ I don’t agree. You can easily creep them up to lvl2 or even lvl3. A Panda or pit lord is the choice, especially pit lord with his damage mitigation skill.
@@Cdictator nobody who has a lvl 5 warden is creeping for anything other than for the item, your point doesnt even exist. Its completely irrelevant.
i have same opinion. Not only aboud warden, but any race would benefit from 3rd hero when 1st reach lvl 5 (scale become so slow, it's easier to get lvl 3 with 3rd hero than from 5 to 6 for 1st)
@@tomsoyer5639 when you are creeping for items after lvl5, why not have a pit lord as a 2nd so you don’t waste the XP. Pit lord is tanky and has howl of terror?
Night elf was very strong in the past
Why moon is still playing?
Could say the same thing for almost every elve. When is blizzard waking up?!
In order to earn money
He can’t beat tier 1 players doesn’t necessarily mean he couldn’t beat anyone. If I’m not wrong he’s consistently been top 8 in most series, and currently top 11 in elo ranking. This should say he still got a fair ratio of winnings.
Should he retires while he’s still earning?
because he is a top elf player? this month he has beaten sok, colorful, fortitude, kaho, laby. he is probably the best elf in mirror and against human right now
does anyone remember Cadx2craft?
moon is too stubborn
I saw some Warden inefficiencies. Just walking back to base to take mana.. in this time Moon lose some units. Such “small” thinks make a big difference. Build a shop, use bears for health…
Of course, it is easy for me as observer. Just NE does not play perfect, so I can say game is unbalanced.
Don't think he could have won, but he blew his first avatar doing nothing, and he was also out of position pretty consistently. Sacrificing his expo a third time to kill 3 acolytes makes no sense.
ud broken
No. Now it's the case where specific race is broken against specific race.
Hu vs Ud, Ud vs Ne. Probably Orc vs Ud also.
@skywillfindyou very interesting cause UD win vs humans most of time, idk why people are so delusionnal against humans in this channel...
Panda is better 2nd has NE vs ud to counter mass units: guls, fiends,gargs. What win vs ud has ne is dh panda warden panda against UD.
exactly, i had no troubles to kill ud with such heroes. Even warden-dh is good. Still panda was nerfed back then, but some nerfs reverted in past few years, so panda must be still good 2nd choice.
0:09:13 same food (+4), but ud have 2 scrolls and fight ne.
after battle, same food difference (+4), but ud lost all his mana, health and both scrolls. NE dont even dry a single moonwell.
and all of this is with comments like "how did ne whould deal with wyrms?" "ud damage is through the roof" etc.
Wtf, absolutely not stacking with what happening on the screen.
There are 2 empty MW in the end of the battle. DH was focused and healed from those 2.
Dude is saying UD vs NE matchup are balanced 😂
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Just remove HU same 💩
Bears are just useless against UD. All you hear is them dying.
it's not the bears, its dryads who are the weak spot:
destroyer/wyrms > bears > fiends > dryads > destroyer/wyrms
but dryads are zerodps glasscanons, which cant deal enough damage to destroyers to prevent them to kill bears. So NE need to go hyppos/ravens but it took different tech (ie time+resources) to add/switch.
Moon en otra de sus jugadas asombrosas donde cree que con 1 héroe va ganar contra 3
there is no chance to beat UD aka OP
it's 50% wr ud-ne already in this team clash.
I cant be the only one who thinks, that armor upgrades should also give mag resist
That would be interesting I think.
Just remove UD from game evrybody will be okey
Just remove HU then