There’s definitely more to the story here. No pool company has that much trouble with algae without some other factor like high CYA, a leak or just out right uniformed staff. What were the water balance readings? Free chlorine, pH, alkalinity, calcium hardness, CYA, salt concentration, phosphates/nitrates, ORP? Is there a chlorinator on the system? What’s the filtration schedule? It there a sand filter or cartridge filter? What was your visit frequency, everyday or spread out over a week or more? Sodium bromide is not as potent as chlorine (effectively hypochlorous acid with pH in range). Sodium bromide just reduces at a slower rate than chlorine. This means that bromine oxidizes contaminants more slowly and, hence, it stays in the water longer. You can look up the redox equation for it. Chlorine oxidizes contaminants super quickly and, thusly, it reduces super quickly. The idea is to get ahead of the demand on any oxidizer be it chlorine or bromine. The two chemicals are doing the exact same thing at different rates. Backwash the filter or ensure cartridges are clean enough for filtration. A quick waste vac helps to reduce demand by removing some of the algae which lessens chemical consumption. Then brush the algae into solution and shock the water with 9 pounds of granular calcium hypochlorite (might add some Poly 60 or copper algaecide if there’s room to add a little chelated copper to the water without risking staining, but algaecide really helps best as a maintenance product). Return the following day to test, brush, backwash and treat. It might need a flocculant if the water stays cloudy with suspended dead algae. You don’t really need bromine if you really look at the chemistry and what’s actually going on. All you need for any algae is chlorine at the right pH (*even black algae).
I'm not sure where you live but, here in central Texas, I use the Yellow Treat algicide all the time with the chlorine shock to kill yellow algae. I have had many people from the area call because they can't get rid of the yellow algae and the local pool stores have helped them balance the other things in the water like the pH, CYA, calcium, etc. But then the pool store's answer for the yellow algae was, as you just said, add more chlorine shock, add more chlorine shock, add more chlorine shock. The customer had free chlorine levels of 10 or higher for days and it still didn't kill the yellow algae, it kept coming right back. So the customers called me, I sold them some yellow treat, told them dosage amounts I would use to hit it hard and and then the yellow algae was gone in 2 days. So due to the results I have produced, sorry, I have to respectfully disagree with what you have stated, that all you need is chlorine. It sounds like you know what you are talking about, so if it's working for you, then great. But you wouldn't be able to explain all of what you just said to a customer and have them do it themselves. After 2 sentences their eyes would glaze over in utter confusion.
I'm at the same spot everything is good in my pool but my water is tinted yellowish green. My free chlorine is 10 and total chlorine is same. And it's not any algae on my walls or the bottom. But if I put water in a cup it looks crystal clear idk what to do now.
@@leahrodriquez1349 Sounds like you may have phosphates. Might try phosphate remover or have your water tested or buy phosphate test kit. Its pretty simple.
Well done wow. I saw another vid of yours showing us to use aglaecide (sodium bromide). Is this what you used here with shock again? I'm gonna try this. I moved into a house with a pool in a bad state. It looks like yellow mustard algae stains on the side of the pool. That possible? Not coming off when I brush it, but I never put in aglaecide yet. Could that do the trick? I was even wondering if the yellow/light brown/gold stains could be due to us using borehole water and metal in the water? I used metal remover once and it didn't do anything...
Yes, use Yellow Treat with chlorine shock to kill the yellow algae. You can also use a Pool RX cartridge to kill algae. Anything remaining on the walls will probably be staining either from metal stains or chemical imbalance stains from the past.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Good news! Thanks to your advice... For the fist time I know what it feels like, to put in the effort, and to end with a sparkling blue pool!... from being a horrible green. Those chlorine resistant algae buggers have met their match! Woohoo
What happens if it still doesn't come off after the third time and, say, a fourth / fifth time. What other options exist? Would an acid wash be the next move?
Hi hope you're doing well How algae can grow in a pool that is circulating 13 hrs per day and getting little sun? Isn't this bad for them? Do you really need an Algecide for pool maintenance? Our pool is acidic most of the time, what droped the pH in the first place? Is it chlorine?
You can get a liquid algicide the POLY type and add this as part of your preventative maintenance for your pool. But this video you watched was months of neglect and allowing yellow algae to grow and stay in the pool. Se we needed a lot of chlorine and Yellow Treat algicide to kill it. As for your question of pH. If your pool is acidic that means it's below 7 in pH. So I'm not sure how it got that way, some places have low pH in their source water. If you use a DICHLOR mixture of chlorine shock this can lower your pH, if you use a lot. If you use a CALHYPO type of shock it will raise your pH, if you use a lot.
Ps- we had our pool acid washed 6 months ago and now have algae stains. Was that a mistake to acid wash it? Did it make mg plaster too porous and now susceptible to more stains??
Hello , if there is still yellow algae on my pool wall even I used yellow treat and shock. But still remains can’t be brushed off. May I get your any suggestions to solve this issue? Thank you
@a872024... read my comment same thing.. 👍.. had a customer same issue with black algae an its worse than yellow... half black algae all gone in a night 👍.. man wish I had a youtube page 😪 😢
Did you say in another video that mustard algae should brush off easily? I just had my plaster redone in Sept and I have greenish areas, mainly in the deep end, that will not come off with a SST brush. I tried shocking it really good, and it still won't brush off. A coworker is having the same issue, we're in Round Rock. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
If you had yellow algae and have not used Yellow Treat with chlorine shock, try that. Most just brushes off, but if you have yellow algae for a while you will have to kill the rest chemically because some of it will not brush off. Just like in this video, they had so much and had had the algae for months, I had to nuke the pool and it took a few days to kill it all chemically.
Mr todd.. just had it replaster.. idk why but algae grows on rough spots.. same thing shock hard an lower ur ph. An brush an brush.. either ss brush or 50/50.. but check for rough spots 👍 it will always grow there first
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Thank you for the reply. I have DE Filters and it’s been pretty rough. I’m about to be on my 4th cleaning. I guess I’ll have to keep chipping away at it. I’ve at least seen major improvement after each cleaning. Would I be able to set the slider valve to backflush and “vacuum to waste” that way or is that not good for the pump?
@@deecue0220 If you have a slide valve, then you are either in filter mode or backwash mode which will still take the algae through the filter. Waste mode just goes through the pipes and bypasses the filter.
Wish you could come out and get rid of my stains! 😭 I’m afraid I might have to fire my pool guys too! Our pool has always been sparkling blue with past pool guys and now I have algae that will not scrub off! I’m freaking out. I hope we can get rid of it. 🙏🙏 I saved your video. I will show it to my pool guys if I have to lol
Can we see were is 100 free of algae to be safe to swim, my sign lengage teacher lost her audition by water like that on swiming pool, better is not the job... either its clear of algae or not i guess! They got fired cuz they probably said rhe trrue will be exoensive on chemicales and not going to be removed never.. resurface that plaster upgrade equipment and expert care of water treatments
What were the amounts of each product that you added to the pool on each visit? How many days in between as well?
I shock a pool this bad heavily, usually 3 bottles of YT to 18 pounds of chlorine shock or 4 bottles to 24 pounds.
There’s definitely more to the story here.
No pool company has that much trouble with algae without some other factor like high CYA, a leak or just out right uniformed staff.
What were the water balance readings? Free chlorine, pH, alkalinity, calcium hardness, CYA, salt concentration, phosphates/nitrates, ORP?
Is there a chlorinator on the system? What’s the filtration schedule? It there a sand filter or cartridge filter? What was your visit frequency, everyday or spread out over a week or more?
Sodium bromide is not as potent as chlorine (effectively hypochlorous acid with pH in range). Sodium bromide just reduces at a slower rate than chlorine. This means that bromine oxidizes contaminants more slowly and, hence, it stays in the water longer. You can look up the redox equation for it. Chlorine oxidizes contaminants super quickly and, thusly, it reduces super quickly.
The idea is to get ahead of the demand on any oxidizer be it chlorine or bromine. The two chemicals are doing the exact same thing at different rates.
Backwash the filter or ensure cartridges are clean enough for filtration. A quick waste vac helps to reduce demand by removing some of the algae which lessens chemical consumption. Then brush the algae into solution and shock the water with 9 pounds of granular calcium hypochlorite (might add some Poly 60 or copper algaecide if there’s room to add a little chelated copper to the water without risking staining, but algaecide really helps best as a maintenance product). Return the following day to test, brush, backwash and treat. It might need a flocculant if the water stays cloudy with suspended dead algae.
You don’t really need bromine if you really look at the chemistry and what’s actually going on. All you need for any algae is chlorine at the right pH (*even black algae).
I'm not sure where you live but, here in central Texas, I use the Yellow Treat algicide all the time with the chlorine shock to kill yellow algae. I have had many people from the area call because they can't get rid of the yellow algae and the local pool stores have helped them balance the other things in the water like the pH, CYA, calcium, etc. But then the pool store's answer for the yellow algae was, as you just said, add more chlorine shock, add more chlorine shock, add more chlorine shock. The customer had free chlorine levels of 10 or higher for days and it still didn't kill the yellow algae, it kept coming right back. So the customers called me, I sold them some yellow treat, told them dosage amounts I would use to hit it hard and and then the yellow algae was gone in 2 days. So due to the results I have produced, sorry, I have to respectfully disagree with what you have stated, that all you need is chlorine. It sounds like you know what you are talking about, so if it's working for you, then great. But you wouldn't be able to explain all of what you just said to a customer and have them do it themselves. After 2 sentences their eyes would glaze over in utter confusion.
I'm at the same spot everything is good in my pool but my water is tinted yellowish green. My free chlorine is 10 and total chlorine is same. And it's not any algae on my walls or the bottom. But if I put water in a cup it looks crystal clear idk what to do now.
@@leahrodriquez1349 Sounds like you may have phosphates. Might try phosphate remover or have your water tested or buy phosphate test kit. Its pretty simple.
Almost spot on, but cal-hypo is generally a no-no with how hard texas water is. Liquid all day baby
@@leahrodriquez1349this is sort of a shot in the dark, but I bet a flocculent treatment would do you right
Well done wow. I saw another vid of yours showing us to use aglaecide (sodium bromide). Is this what you used here with shock again?
I'm gonna try this. I moved into a house with a pool in a bad state. It looks like yellow mustard algae stains on the side of the pool. That possible? Not coming off when I brush it, but I never put in aglaecide yet. Could that do the trick?
I was even wondering if the yellow/light brown/gold stains could be due to us using borehole water and metal in the water? I used metal remover once and it didn't do anything...
Yes, use Yellow Treat with chlorine shock to kill the yellow algae. You can also use a Pool RX cartridge to kill algae. Anything remaining on the walls will probably be staining either from metal stains or chemical imbalance stains from the past.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Thanks for the advice
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Good news! Thanks to your advice... For the fist time I know what it feels like, to put in the effort, and to end with a sparkling blue pool!... from being a horrible green. Those chlorine resistant algae buggers have met their match! Woohoo
@@jvanniekerk1 Great job!!!
What happens if it still doesn't come off after the third time and, say, a fourth / fifth time. What other options exist? Would an acid wash be the next move?
It's probably a stain on the plaster that won't come off.
Acid wash removes scale and metal stains you have to do a chlorine wash first if you have plaster or pebble do not do either if you have vinyl
@@79SteelyMatto did a chlorine wash on my pool last year after I fired my pool man. I take care if it myself and it looks beautiful now.
What did you use to get the green of the bottom? Mine i keep brushing and it does not come off
Chemically treat it with Yellow Treat and chlorine shock.
It tastes time an alot of brushing.. get ph to 7.2 an chlorine 3plus. An brush brush. Not a one day process 👍
Just checked the internet - - Seems this product is "Out of Stock" and not available at this time?
Bummer! See if someone might sell it locally.
What chemicals did you use. Sodium bromide ? How much? What type?
Balanced pH to 7.2. Chlorine shock with Yellow Treat algicide.
Hi hope you're doing well
How algae can grow in a pool that is circulating 13 hrs per day and getting little sun? Isn't this bad for them?
Do you really need an Algecide for pool maintenance?
Our pool is acidic most of the time, what droped the pH in the first place? Is it chlorine?
You can get a liquid algicide the POLY type and add this as part of your preventative maintenance for your pool. But this video you watched was months of neglect and allowing yellow algae to grow and stay in the pool. Se we needed a lot of chlorine and Yellow Treat algicide to kill it. As for your question of pH. If your pool is acidic that means it's below 7 in pH. So I'm not sure how it got that way, some places have low pH in their source water. If you use a DICHLOR mixture of chlorine shock this can lower your pH, if you use a lot. If you use a CALHYPO type of shock it will raise your pH, if you use a lot.
Ps- we had our pool acid washed 6 months ago and now have algae stains. Was that a mistake to acid wash it? Did it make mg plaster too porous and now susceptible to more stains??
It's ok, sometimes you will get outbreaks of algae, especially in the spring.
What’s the formula you put in? A bottle of yellow treat with shock?
I usually put in 2-3 pounds of chlorine shock per cap of Yellow Treat.
What kinda vacuum is that
Oreq Animal vacuum head.
Hello , if there is still yellow algae on my pool wall even I used yellow treat and shock. But still remains can’t be brushed off.
May I get your any suggestions to solve this issue?
Thank you
I may take several treatments to kill all the algae, it has to be killed chemically. Also can use a Pool RX cartridge.
@a872024... read my comment same thing.. 👍.. had a customer same issue with black algae an its worse than yellow... half black algae all gone in a night 👍.. man wish I had a youtube page 😪 😢
we have used sodium Bromide for years in California, it is good stuff.
Yep! Some people have never heard of it.
Did you say in another video that mustard algae should brush off easily? I just had my plaster redone in Sept and I have greenish areas, mainly in the deep end, that will not come off with a SST brush. I tried shocking it really good, and it still won't brush off. A coworker is having the same issue, we're in Round Rock. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
If you had yellow algae and have not used Yellow Treat with chlorine shock, try that. Most just brushes off, but if you have yellow algae for a while you will have to kill the rest chemically because some of it will not brush off. Just like in this video, they had so much and had had the algae for months, I had to nuke the pool and it took a few days to kill it all chemically.
Mr todd.. just had it replaster.. idk why but algae grows on rough spots.. same thing shock hard an lower ur ph. An brush an brush.. either ss brush or 50/50.. but check for rough spots 👍 it will always grow there first
Any recommendations if I can’t vacuum to waste?
You can go ahead and vacuum into a cartridge filter and then clean the cartridges.
@@truelightpoolsllc4441 Thank you for the reply. I have DE Filters and it’s been pretty rough. I’m about to be on my 4th cleaning. I guess I’ll have to keep chipping away at it. I’ve at least seen major improvement after each cleaning.
Would I be able to set the slider valve to backflush and “vacuum to waste” that way or is that not good for the pump?
@@deecue0220 If you have a slide valve, then you are either in filter mode or backwash mode which will still take the algae through the filter. Waste mode just goes through the pipes and bypasses the filter.
@@calebcox4734 Thanks for clarifying that, Caleb. Looks like I have a few more filter cleanings to get done before pool season then 😅
@@deecue0220 You can do that.
Your supposed to clean the filter too. I would clean it twice
We did clean the filter after the pool was turned around. Vacuuming the pool to waste bypasses the filter and goes straight into the yard.
What chemical did you use to clean the stain
To kill the algae we use chlorine shock and and algicide called Yellow Treat
Wish you could come out and get rid of my stains! 😭 I’m afraid I might have to fire my pool guys too! Our pool has always been sparkling blue with past pool guys and now I have algae that will not scrub off! I’m freaking out. I hope we can get rid of it. 🙏🙏 I saved your video. I will show it to my pool guys if I have to lol
Just use Yellow treat, chlorine shock and now I use a Pool RX cartridge to help also.
Plaster expires too how old is the plaster ! And what kind of plaster does it have
What did you do?
Watch the video, I explain it.
my god..........that dog!
Yep, sometimes you wish you could just help the dog take a dip in the pool. Ha ha
I would hire You!
Yes sir!!! You must be a smart man!! :)
Can we see were is 100 free of algae to be safe to swim, my sign lengage teacher lost her audition by water like that on swiming pool, better is not the job... either its clear of algae or not i guess! They got fired cuz they probably said rhe trrue will be exoensive on chemicales and not going to be removed never.. resurface that plaster upgrade equipment and expert care of water treatments
They were not using the proper algaecide to kill the yellow algae. Once it's all taken care of it is safe to swim.
Can't hear you over the dog barking
Sorry
Alright im done with comments i have around 117 customers a week 👍.. im not saying where but i can be found in killeen tx.. name is jim 👍
Thanks Jim, keep those customers happy and you will keep growing!!!
I'm going to dislike this video. It's mostly showing before and after but not showing the process. And for that, I'm out!
I have other videos to tell you how to treat the yellow algae.