What a wonderful machine, a black supercharged Alfa racing car on the road, it's beautiful, sounds amazing and even has the steering wheel on the proper side.
Pre-1935 grand prix cars were usually RHD because most circuits ran clockwise and the driver's weight made a difference. Later in the decade, single-seaters came to dominate.Faster, of course, but the days of driving your Alfa, Benz, or Bentley (even if only in your dreams) to the track, winning the race, and driving home for supper were gone.
I just found this channel today and this is only the 2nd video I've watched- behind Homemade V12. I really like what I've seen so far and look forward to getting caught up on your content.
Ballpark figures (but other people will know better) genuine approaching USD $1m (possibly more) but pur sang pattern replicas (just as good) significantly less than half that.
So sad to see this thing of beauty in California, of all places. It deserves to live its days in some place with style, history and civilized people. Sigh...
I thought so too. Though I am caught off guard by those scrutineering stickers (those coloured round stickers slightly obscured by the steering wheels in some of the views). Those, by the looks of things were from Monaco GP Historique, an event that only admit original cars, or at the very least, recreations with substantial original parts and carried the identity of an earlier, no longer extant, car. Then I realized that the scrutineering stickers were for different race classes. The Monza should've been to the Grid A (for pre-war GP and Voiturette cars), and those stickers were from different grids. There's one Grid A sticker, two Grid B (if I remember correctly this is for the 1950s Formula 1 cars) stickers, and one C (1950s sportscars) and one D (1.5 L F1 cars from 19561-65). So I'm guessing the owner of the car actually owned original cars of different ages, but for some reason, put their scrutineering stickers on the replica Monza at some later date...
In my humble opinion the car is a little rich off idle and part throttle, ideally you would like to have all of the centrifugal advance in by 2000 RPM. On the race cars we would lock the distributor out at 35° so at the hit of the key all the advanced was already there
Thanks, Steve, this is an exciting car to work with. Having worked on traditional cars all my life, this one is a bit different to dial in. It runs best with 40 to 45 degrees of total advance. Seems high for me, however, this is only a 6 to 1 compression ratio. Perhaps these cars were designed to have lots of total advance? I would think pulling timing out when under boost makes sense to me, however, it seems to want more timing under full load and high RPM. This fine machine really comes alive at 4000 RPM.
@@GregQuirin different combustion Chambers Like different amount of timing, closed chamber big block Chevys like over 40° probably 42 or 43 and the small block Mopar it's like between 34 and 36, the only real way to tell is put it on the dyno and move the timing around a bit
What a wonderful machine, a black supercharged Alfa racing car on the road, it's beautiful, sounds amazing and even has the steering wheel on the proper side.
Pre-1935 grand prix cars were usually RHD because most circuits ran clockwise and the driver's weight made a difference. Later in the decade, single-seaters came to dominate.Faster, of course, but the days of driving your Alfa, Benz, or Bentley (even if only in your dreams) to the track, winning the race, and driving home for supper were gone.
What a sound of that engine!
What a difference!
One of the all time greats…
I'll take one in Blue please. What a ride.
Automotive work of art!!!!!!
It is a work of art isn't it
_that thing sounded amazing_
Beautiful car! Great sounds! Cool video!
What a machine! I have always loved these cars. Thanks for getting that pertronix hot rod nonsense out of her and get the old girl set up right.
Great Video Greg. You did it again. The brainstorm with Arnold add a fun element to it . Cheers
Many thanks!
What a sound, the straight 8 is a so smooth , makes a V8 sound so wobbly and unbalanced
And there are still people who live under the delusion that a V8 makes the best sound possible...
Yes , that wobbly warbly heterodyning V8 , sounds so unbalanced compared to this
I just found this channel today and this is only the 2nd video I've watched- behind Homemade V12. I really like what I've seen so far and look forward to getting caught up on your content.
Welcome Trent! We appreciate you subscribing. We're working on a new V12 video and hope to have it on TH-cam soon.
I just found your channel and very happy I did.
Awesome! I appreciate It and thank you for supporting my channel. I'm new to this so I still have to figure everything out. Greg Q
Beautiful! Was that customized with a right side throttle? I thought they were all originally with a Center throttle.
That old girl sounds GREAT.
What an awsome piece of engeneering and art.. I wonder what one of those types of classic ancient race cars cost.
Ballpark figures (but other people will know better) genuine approaching USD $1m (possibly more) but pur sang pattern replicas (just as good) significantly less than half that.
Genuine are costing way over $1M, I would say in the magnitude of 10 times that…
I'm in love
So sad to see this thing of beauty in California, of all places. It deserves to live its days in some place with style, history and civilized people. Sigh...
That's a Pur Sang replica.
I'm assuming that as well, but I'm not worried. Their replicas are superb, from what I've heard, and I'd happily drive one. 🍀❤️
I thought so too.
Though I am caught off guard by those scrutineering stickers (those coloured round stickers slightly obscured by the steering wheels in some of the views). Those, by the looks of things were from Monaco GP Historique, an event that only admit original cars, or at the very least, recreations with substantial original parts and carried the identity of an earlier, no longer extant, car.
Then I realized that the scrutineering stickers were for different race classes. The Monza should've been to the Grid A (for pre-war GP and Voiturette cars), and those stickers were from different grids. There's one Grid A sticker, two Grid B (if I remember correctly this is for the 1950s Formula 1 cars) stickers, and one C (1950s sportscars) and one D (1.5 L F1 cars from 19561-65). So I'm guessing the owner of the car actually owned original cars of different ages, but for some reason, put their scrutineering stickers on the replica Monza at some later date...
That engine sounds as sweet as a nut. Just the way a car like that ought to sound, in my view. 👍
In my humble opinion the car is a little rich off idle and part throttle, ideally you would like to have all of the centrifugal advance in by 2000 RPM. On the race cars we would lock the distributor out at 35° so at the hit of the key all the advanced was already there
Thanks, Steve, this is an exciting car to work with. Having worked on traditional cars all my life, this one is a bit different to dial in. It runs best with 40 to 45 degrees of total advance. Seems high for me, however, this is only a 6 to 1 compression ratio. Perhaps these cars were designed to have lots of total advance? I would think pulling timing out when under boost makes sense to me, however, it seems to want more timing under full load and high RPM. This fine machine really comes alive at 4000 RPM.
@@GregQuirin different combustion Chambers Like different amount of timing, closed chamber big block Chevys like over 40° probably 42 or 43 and the small block Mopar it's like between 34 and 36, the only real way to tell is put it on the dyno and move the timing around a bit
@@GregQuirin hello Greg. Who is the driver?? He owns a lot of historical cars : wonderful Lancia D24, this Alfa (142 hp).
These engines had a hemi style combustion chamber, correct?
And if I drove it I know I could float the gears in that box😃
We don’t need so stinkin mechanical advance sunny boy lol manual for the win
To those of you who can smell this video... kudos.
🍀
Bit lean on the top end would like 40°advance
Is it a Pur Sang or the genuine beast ?
A Pur Sang replica. I believe it's currently for sale on Joe Macari's site...
Wow! So those are "street legal" in the US?
Ho what is approx. max. speed?
Depends on the gearing. With the tallest gearing it would do around 140mph.
@@JCG-Alfamonza like a.modern sports car!
Who the hell puts a Petronix on an Alfa 8C?!?!??
Reliability is important, when you're driving a car like this on a public road. Also, I'm almost positive this is a Pur Sang replica.