Interesting to look back and see how things have panned out since this call. Also interesting to learn Texas called OU about being the needed pair to go to SEC.
OU needed Texas to join the SEC for 2 reasons. 1) The SEC was not going to accept only 1 team. There needed to be a second team to join with OU. 2) The SEC was not going to accept OU and OSU as a package deal. The only other team the SEC was willing to accept was Texas.
No they would have accepted clemson and Oklahoma. The texas/ ou game iS a big money maker. Now to have it at 2:30pm and 7pm. Can only bring on more money.
No reason to take Clemson. S.C. is in the same state, can't get more $ from networks for teams in the same state. That's why they didn't take OK State. TX is an exception due to their brand, national alumni base, and annual athletic dept spending and because Texas is very big state with a large population. The SEC would want North Carolina or Virginia before taking Clemson. New territory and larger state populations. Clemson is s GREAT program now, but where will they be in 10 years after S.C. has been getting $80 million per year vs. $35 million per year for Clemson in the ACC. Besides, Clemson couldn't leave if they wanted to, they have a grant of rights for 15 years. The ACC is in serious trouble with that hideous, long-term TV contact. If the ACC doesn't add Notre Dame, and they won't, they're screwed.
@@raggles123 Gary, UT has been trying to get into the SEC for more than a year. They were turned down. The SEC would only take them if OU came with them. AAU is prestigious, but much more important to the Big Ten and PAC 12. SEC not so much.
@@SJVA Riiiigghhhttt SJ (Slack Jaw?), a 0u homer spinning BS like a fool. Lol. It is all about money, UT has money, an ESPN network with escalating payouts, an Alumnus that travels really well, likely better but at worst even to those at 0u, the best stadium in CFB, a prestigious AAU accreditation, a great Locale and a fiscally sound balance sheet. As a bonus we win bowl games. Please, at worst this was a joint move that started a year ago there Gomer errr Homer, you know when both Admins said they started this process.
@@rossday4056 This isn't true. OU would have left in 2010 with A&M if not for former OU president David Boren blocking the move because he was wanting Big Ten membership and Boren having the political clout & connections to prevent moving unless OSU was following OU to another conference.
@@rossday4056 wrong, the SEC did want OU, but not with little brother OSU in tow. It’s pretty clear that Texas is being laughed at by many in the SEC. OU… not so much
Let's face it the Big 12 and every other conference got caught sleeping at the wheel. The fact that Texas and Oklahoma were able to keep everything quiet. That's near impossible with the digital age we live were everything is in vacuum. This is text book on how to leave a conference 101. Rule number do what Texas and OU did kept everything silent on all social media,email, and direct calls themselves. That is how you do it. Rule number 2 see rule number 1.
I can tell you exactly how bedlam will be. OU is going to roll osu for the 91st time. In the grand scheme of things, this is essentially the equivalent of a stay at home wife with no kids being upset because her husband filed for divorce. All she had to do was focus on herself and bring something to the table, but she proved time and time again that she wasn’t interested. Now she’s stuck hoping that the judge will award her alimony.
Who said The SEC is finished inviting Teams. Who's The 3RD BIG12 TEAM The SEC contacted? The BIG12 Commissioner said The SEC contacted 3 BIG12 Teams. This isn't over.
Texas inquired first, and was asked by the SEC to bring Oklahoma. Oklahoma may have wanted to go to the B1G years ago, but they don't meet the academic standards. As far as football goes it would have been a slam dunk. It would have given Nebraska their rivalry back, but there was never a chance Oklahoma would have been accepted. As a fan of an SEC program (Florida) I really don't care much about the addition. I know both programs are blue bloods, but I hate where this is all going. The 8 remaining programs are talking about unity, but will bolt at the first liferaft. Texas has sunk two conferences because of boredom, and their arrogance towards all their peers is what drove the original four off a decade ago. Oklahoma vs Nebraska was a great rivalry. Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State is a great rivalry. Both are now dead in essence. Thanks conference realignment .
OU didn't need texas to join. We see OU as a better brand than texas. Texas is going to struggle over here. I think OU can hold its own. And OU will have plenty of big name programs over here to play. As an SEC guy, I can tell you now, the conference is already working on 2022 schedule with texas and OU in mind.
I hate UT with every fiber of my body, and it pains me to say this, but i disagree. While Texas hasn't been relevant in football since they won the last NC, and while you're right, they will struggle more than OU, they are now, and always have been, a much bigger brand than OU. There is no comparison. Texas doesn't have to be worth a shit to be hyper-important. God, I hate the University of Texas. :D
@@TheArkDoc as an SEC guy, we respect OU far more than we respect texas. Texas A&M is light years ahead of Texas. Alabama, auburn, L.S.U., Florida, Georgia, Tennessee. Are all bigger brands than texas. We don't respect texas over here. Look, we see arkansas on the same level as ole miss, or Mississippi state. We will see how texas does in week 2 against arkansas. And I'm not sure arkansas isn't better than texas, right now.
@@aaronlovell6026 hate to disagree with ya but outside of the SEC, Tennessee hasn’t popped up on anyone’s radar since the 1990’s. Florida is the closest comparison to Texas in my opinion. When they’re good they get talked about a lot but they’re just as inconsistent as Texas. Auburn gets talked about a little more than Florida but their inconsistency also means they’re overlooked by fan bases outside of the SEC. LSU has the name brand recognition but considering their overall record they’re on par with Texas. Georgia is more like OU, they have a good season, but just can’t reliever in the post season consistently.
@@aaronlovell6026 ...it's a DAMN shame Georgia wasn't into playing when Texas whipped their asses in the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago.... DAMN I wish they had been up for the game.... LOL
I keep wondering why all the OU, Texas and SEC fans keep ending up over here commenting? You got what you wanted. You're gone so why do you have to justify it to us? I obviously cant speak for everybody but personally I really don't care what you've got to say.
Because Kurtz these videos keep popping up in our You Tube Algorithm. Blame it on the content creator. He’s behind it…. Makes sense for him to do that though. Gotta stay relevant ya know
ou and texsa fans shouldn't comment on a video that is titled "why oklahoma needed texas to leave the big 12 for the sec." ya, that makes sense. the title was created for the purpose of getting ou fans to come here and explain why kurtz is a moron for asserting something so stupid.
The Big12 would fold before the checks cleared the bank. Texas and OU would get their money back. The SEC would pay all the out of conference schools their 1 million checks and Texas and OU would play the 2021 season in the SEC
Just curious, what would happen if Texas and OU walked into Big-12 HQ and dropped two $80 Million dollar checks on old Bob's desk tomorrow and said "here you go, WE ARE OUTTA HERE". The early exit fee is paid, NOW what does the Big-12 do?? Thoughts? Lets face it, both OU and TX have the money.
OU and TU got tired of carrying the conference and more OU now than TU! Having OU games get second billing on television game times was hurtful financially and emotionally.
That is UT & 0u, maybe if you guys were not so financially inept, you may have had the real option, like Texas, to go independent. It is really tough being an AAU at Texas, an credited institution, and not have breadth of recruits you football only schools have. Plus the police in Norman are a nice advantage.
It's hard to win the SEC and OU has not had a team capable of winning the SEC throughout the entire playoff era and some time before that. So I wouldn't just assume that because you are in the SEC that now you can win the conference or are next in line after Saban retires.
No one else in this conference has played in a national championship game in the last 10 years except for OU. You worry about getting to the playoffs. We will worry about winning chips.
@@freeisalwaysme what you do I the big 12 doesn’t matter. That has been established and that is why you are leaving the conference. No one cares that you win that glorified G5 conference every year just to get embarrassed in the playoffs.
IMO being the smallest conference was a detriment. BIGXII leadership let us down. Nice guys finish last. They should have went and got the top two or four teams from the ACC or PAC back in 2016. Can you say Clemson and FSU or USC and Oregon?
Why would Clemson, FSU, USC, or Oregon want to join the Big12? Even when Oklahoma and Texas were still there, they wouldn’t be interested. The most that the Big12 could attract were teams from the AAC and Mountain Pacific in 2016, now that move would be a lateral move at best for those teams. The Big12 just does not offer any major colleges/programs anything now. And to be honest, all but 2 or 3 of the remaining schools are attractive to other conferences. If you are a Big12 fan, you might be wanting to get to know the other AAC teams.
@@mopar_dude9227 2011 and 2012 was a different, friendly era in Football Conferences. After the aggy backstab, all conferences after 2012 demand huge payouts from Conference members exiting.
Ten years ago there was DEFINITELY interest from FSU in leaving the ACC and going to the Big 12. That's documented because it was not a well kept secret. FSU was upset with the ACC and wanted out. There were rumors of other ACC schools being interested, Clemson being the primary one of them. Clemson was not the power house then that they are now. I believe Georgia Tech was another one and one more I can't remember, it was lower key though. The Big 12 was busy flirting with Notre Dame at the time and they put the ACC schools on hold until negotiations with Notre Dame were complete. The ACC schools did not appreciate the snub and backed off realignment publicly. The Big 12 offered Notre Dame a partial membership in football and full membership in all other sports. Notre Dame said they would think about it, went to the ACC and told them what the Big 12 offered. The ACC matched the same offer and used that to keep FSU and the other schools in the ACC, then had them sign a 20 year grant of rights so none of the universities could leave. The Big 12 screwed themselves out of landing 2-4 ACC universities, didn't land Notre Dame, and eventually ended up with West Virginia and TCU. This colossal failure cost the Big 12 commissioner his job. Totally out maneuvered by Notre Dame. Kind of like how Bowlsby just got out maneuvered by Sankey. My guess is he will also lose his job before long. Rightfully so.
Why should OSU be mad? OU has been lining OSU’s pockets for years. If OSU left the BIG12 it wouldn’t affect OU one bit. OSU has never won a BIG12 championship game. Maybe they can finally go win something somewhere. Kansas has a better record against OU than OSU does so OU is doing their little sister a big favor by leaving.
In the Playoff era the Sooners have gone undefeated in conference once and they didnt make the CFP that year. So any idea that the lack of competition in conference has kept them from doing better in the CFP is....a reach.
To improve you must be challenged. 1 or 2 teams isn't really a challenge considering no one in the big 12 can beat OU twice in one season. This is a good move for OU from a challenge stand point. I love the big 12 and the big 12 had 5 years to add 2 quality teams to the conference but chose not to. It's time for a change.
OU and Texas will be playing next year in the SEC , doesn't make any sense joining now but wait 4 years or even 2 . 80 mil each is nothing to both programs and lawsuits if any will drag out for years.
You can add Cincy, Houston, UFC, and whoever else strikes your fancy and the Big 12 probably isn't a "real" power 5 because they are a mall without an anchor store. And WVU REALLY wants to go to the SEC. I hope OU is playing in the SEC by 2022. And tough night games will just get us ready for night games at LSU and places like that.
@@bige2012 But OU is, and yeah hate em' or not, and I do so was UT in terms of market and things like that. And if that wasn't true, then Bowlsby wouldn't b e so upset by it.
Just being honest, OSU fans look forward to OU vs OSU more than OU fans do. This isn't going to sting that bad for OU and as the President stated they are willing to still play OSU some seasons.
Nebraska was the Sooner’s rival, and I truly hated to see that die. In a pinch the Longhorns had to do. Cowboys rivalry always seemed like a manufactured Big12 media thing
Agreed, NE vs OU was always better than OSU (little brother) vs OU (big brother) has been.. NE isn't too hot lately but I sure am excited to see NE vs OU this year after such a long time.
If I were running UT, I would have went independent years ago, and just made a schedule out of lower tier Texas teams, and OU. Their fans would love that.
If you cant beat em, join em. Time to play with the big boys down south! As an SEC guy, I welcome the move! Ou fans: Just dont assume you're going to steamroll everyone once you're in the SEC! It will take time with recruiting and as long as OU makes everyone in the conference better. I have no issue with them joining. Just to be another doormat team like Arkansas or vanderbilt. Making everyone else in the conference better...it just means more in the SEC. Hope for 2022-2023 to be the year the sooners join!
Gundy cannot get it done at ok.st. Ou does get it done. Although, Ou must recruit better defense and stop trying to outscore teams. That will not play out in the sec.
@@goop3213 who else would want them? And and even if the AAC, ACC, Big10, or PAC12 would want them, why would they won’t to play in an even tougher conference than the Big12? The Big12 has nothing to offer other teams, and the remaining teams really don’t have anything to offer the power conferences.
@@mopar_dude9227 if you say so...make it so .. your talk like they cant or haven't beaten anyone and have no history... kstate has wins over the big10, pac12 ,SEC in the past and it's only coach Kliemans 3rd season and he's 2and0 vs the Sooners.... IF YOU'RE GOING TO TROLL BE PREPARED FOR SOME KICKBACK
Interesting to look back and see how things have panned out since this call. Also interesting to learn Texas called OU about being the needed pair to go to SEC.
OU needed Texas to join the SEC for 2 reasons. 1) The SEC was not going to accept only 1 team. There needed to be a second team to join with OU. 2) The SEC was not going to accept OU and OSU as a package deal. The only other team the SEC was willing to accept was Texas.
No they would have accepted clemson and Oklahoma. The texas/ ou game iS a big money maker. Now to have it at 2:30pm and 7pm. Can only bring on more money.
No reason to take Clemson. S.C. is in the same state, can't get more $ from networks for teams in the same state. That's why they didn't take OK State. TX is an exception due to their brand, national alumni base, and annual athletic dept spending and because Texas is very big state with a large population. The SEC would want North Carolina or Virginia before taking Clemson. New territory and larger state populations. Clemson is s GREAT program now, but where will they be in 10 years after S.C. has been getting $80 million per year vs. $35 million per year for Clemson in the ACC. Besides, Clemson couldn't leave if they wanted to, they have a grant of rights for 15 years. The ACC is in serious trouble with that hideous, long-term TV contact. If the ACC doesn't add Notre Dame, and they won't, they're screwed.
This is more 0u tagging along IMHO- they are $1 billion in debt, Texas is an AAU University. A gem. There is great symbiosis at the admin levels.
@@raggles123 Gary, UT has been trying to get into the SEC for more than a year. They were turned down. The SEC would only take them if OU came with them. AAU is prestigious, but much more important to the Big Ten and PAC 12. SEC not so much.
@@SJVA Riiiigghhhttt SJ (Slack Jaw?), a 0u homer spinning BS like a fool. Lol. It is all about money, UT has money, an ESPN network with escalating payouts, an Alumnus that travels really well, likely better but at worst even to those at 0u, the best stadium in CFB, a prestigious AAU accreditation, a great Locale and a fiscally sound balance sheet. As a bonus we win bowl games. Please, at worst this was a joint move that started a year ago there Gomer errr Homer, you know when both Admins said they started this process.
Texas needed Oklahoma just as much.
Bullshit. OU tried to get in to the SEC in 2012, but the SEC didn't want them. We are the ship; you are the barnacle.
@@rossday4056 This isn't true. OU would have left in 2010 with A&M if not for former OU president David Boren blocking the move because he was wanting Big Ten membership and Boren having the political clout & connections to prevent moving unless OSU was following OU to another conference.
@@rossday4056 incorrect. They were supposed to be a packaged deal with ATM but Boren stopped the move.
@@TheQuintessentialBM so OU have always been backstabbers and isn't just a recent thing.
@@rossday4056 wrong, the SEC did want OU, but not with little brother OSU in tow. It’s pretty clear that Texas is being laughed at by many in the SEC. OU… not so much
Let's face it the Big 12 and every other conference got caught sleeping at the wheel. The fact that Texas and Oklahoma were able to keep everything quiet. That's near impossible with the digital age we live were everything is in vacuum. This is text book on how to leave a conference 101. Rule number do what Texas and OU did kept everything silent on all social media,email, and direct calls themselves. That is how you do it. Rule number 2 see rule number 1.
I can tell you exactly how bedlam will be. OU is going to roll osu for the 91st time.
In the grand scheme of things, this is essentially the equivalent of a stay at home wife with no kids being upset because her husband filed for divorce. All she had to do was focus on herself and bring something to the table, but she proved time and time again that she wasn’t interested. Now she’s stuck hoping that the judge will award her alimony.
Who said The SEC is finished inviting Teams. Who's The 3RD BIG12 TEAM The SEC contacted? The BIG12 Commissioner said The SEC contacted 3 BIG12 Teams. This isn't over.
Texas inquired first, and was asked by the SEC to bring Oklahoma. Oklahoma may have wanted to go to the B1G years ago, but they don't meet the academic standards. As far as football goes it would have been a slam dunk. It would have given Nebraska their rivalry back, but there was never a chance Oklahoma would have been accepted.
As a fan of an SEC program (Florida) I really don't care much about the addition. I know both programs are blue bloods, but I hate where this is all going. The 8 remaining programs are talking about unity, but will bolt at the first liferaft. Texas has sunk two conferences because of boredom, and their arrogance towards all their peers is what drove the original four off a decade ago.
Oklahoma vs Nebraska was a great rivalry. Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State is a great rivalry. Both are now dead in essence. Thanks conference realignment .
OU didn't need texas to join. We see OU as a better brand than texas. Texas is going to struggle over here. I think OU can hold its own. And OU will have plenty of big name programs over here to play. As an SEC guy, I can tell you now, the conference is already working on 2022 schedule with texas and OU in mind.
I hate UT with every fiber of my body, and it pains me to say this, but i disagree. While Texas hasn't been relevant in football since they won the last NC, and while you're right, they will struggle more than OU, they are now, and always have been, a much bigger brand than OU. There is no comparison. Texas doesn't have to be worth a shit to be hyper-important. God, I hate the University of Texas. :D
@@TheArkDoc as an SEC guy, we respect OU far more than we respect texas. Texas A&M is light years ahead of Texas. Alabama, auburn, L.S.U., Florida, Georgia, Tennessee. Are all bigger brands than texas. We don't respect texas over here. Look, we see arkansas on the same level as ole miss, or Mississippi state. We will see how texas does in week 2 against arkansas. And I'm not sure arkansas isn't better than texas, right now.
@@aaronlovell6026 Right?!? On the money Bro!! 🏈
@@aaronlovell6026 hate to disagree with ya but outside of the SEC, Tennessee hasn’t popped up on anyone’s radar since the 1990’s. Florida is the closest comparison to Texas in my opinion. When they’re good they get talked about a lot but they’re just as inconsistent as Texas. Auburn gets talked about a little more than Florida but their inconsistency also means they’re overlooked by fan bases outside of the SEC. LSU has the name brand recognition but considering their overall record they’re on par with Texas. Georgia is more like OU, they have a good season, but just can’t reliever in the post season consistently.
@@aaronlovell6026 ...it's a DAMN shame Georgia wasn't into playing when Texas whipped their asses in the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago.... DAMN I wish they had been up for the game.... LOL
Ou and osu are not a rivalry, OU - tx , OU - Neb are rivalries (at one time) cmon man
OU vs osu was a ass whooping not a rivalry to Sooners
That is UT & 0u.
@@raggles123 no it's OU & ut
@@JustMe-gn6yf no, THE University of Texas and Zero U. Your turn, lol.
@@raggles123 it's funny how zero university owns the underachieving shorthorns. ut where blue chip recruits get turned into scrubs
Thanks for the content!!
I keep wondering why all the OU, Texas and SEC fans keep ending up over here commenting? You got what you wanted. You're gone so why do you have to justify it to us? I obviously cant speak for everybody but personally I really don't care what you've got to say.
We aren't justifying shit. We left its for you guys to get over it. Good luck in the MWC
^ they're trying to justify averaging below .500 the next 10 years.
@@freeisalwaysme Really? Yet you're here running your mouth.
Because Kurtz these videos keep popping up in our You Tube Algorithm. Blame it on the content creator. He’s behind it…. Makes sense for him to do that though. Gotta stay relevant ya know
ou and texsa fans shouldn't comment on a video that is titled "why oklahoma needed texas to leave the big 12 for the sec." ya, that makes sense. the title was created for the purpose of getting ou fans to come here and explain why kurtz is a moron for asserting something so stupid.
Before the Big 12, Texas played OU every year......why can't OSU & OU do the same?
The Big12 would fold before the checks cleared the bank. Texas and OU would get their money back.
The SEC would pay all the out of conference schools their 1 million checks and Texas and OU would play the 2021 season in the SEC
All Big 12 games will be nasty events for the next 4 years!
Just curious, what would happen if Texas and OU walked into Big-12 HQ and dropped two $80 Million dollar checks on old Bob's desk tomorrow and said "here you go, WE ARE OUTTA HERE". The early exit fee is paid, NOW what does the Big-12 do?? Thoughts? Lets face it, both OU and TX have the money.
He will do the bidding of the big boys like he always have.
OU and TU got tired of carrying the conference and more OU now than TU! Having OU games get second billing on television game times was hurtful financially and emotionally.
That is UT & 0u, maybe if you guys were not so financially inept, you may have had the real option, like Texas, to go independent. It is really tough being an AAU at Texas, an credited institution, and not have breadth of recruits you football only schools have. Plus the police in Norman are a nice advantage.
It's hard to win the SEC and OU has not had a team capable of winning the SEC throughout the entire playoff era and some time before that. So I wouldn't just assume that because you are in the SEC that now you can win the conference or are next in line after Saban retires.
Ok.
No one else in this conference has played in a national championship game in the last 10 years except for OU. You worry about getting to the playoffs. We will worry about winning chips.
@@freeisalwaysme what you do I the big 12 doesn’t matter. That has been established and that is why you are leaving the conference. No one cares that you win that glorified G5 conference every year just to get embarrassed in the playoffs.
@@AlphaDwg keep saying that to yourself 😂😂😂😂
@@AlphaDwg boomer sooner
IMO being the smallest conference was a detriment. BIGXII leadership let us down. Nice guys finish last. They should have went and got the top two or four teams from the ACC or PAC back in 2016. Can you say Clemson and FSU or USC and Oregon?
Like they leave to join the big 12
Why would Clemson, FSU, USC, or Oregon want to join the Big12? Even when Oklahoma and Texas were still there, they wouldn’t be interested. The most that the Big12 could attract were teams from the AAC and Mountain Pacific in 2016, now that move would be a lateral move at best for those teams. The Big12 just does not offer any major colleges/programs anything now. And to be honest, all but 2 or 3 of the remaining schools are attractive to other conferences. If you are a Big12 fan, you might be wanting to get to know the other AAC teams.
@@mopar_dude9227 2011 and 2012 was a different, friendly era in Football Conferences. After the aggy backstab, all conferences after 2012 demand huge payouts from Conference members exiting.
Stupid guys sometimes do not even finish.
Shame video cameras have not made it across the Red River yet. You do know this is a video medium, right?
Ten years ago there was DEFINITELY interest from FSU in leaving the ACC and going to the Big 12. That's documented because it was not a well kept secret. FSU was upset with the ACC and wanted out. There were rumors of other ACC schools being interested, Clemson being the primary one of them. Clemson was not the power house then that they are now. I believe Georgia Tech was another one and one more I can't remember, it was lower key though. The Big 12 was busy flirting with Notre Dame at the time and they put the ACC schools on hold until negotiations with Notre Dame were complete. The ACC schools did not appreciate the snub and backed off realignment publicly. The Big 12 offered Notre Dame a partial membership in football and full membership in all other sports. Notre Dame said they would think about it, went to the ACC and told them what the Big 12 offered. The ACC matched the same offer and used that to keep FSU and the other schools in the ACC, then had them sign a 20 year grant of rights so none of the universities could leave. The Big 12 screwed themselves out of landing 2-4 ACC universities, didn't land Notre Dame, and eventually ended up with West Virginia and TCU. This colossal failure cost the Big 12 commissioner his job. Totally out maneuvered by Notre Dame. Kind of like how Bowlsby just got out maneuvered by Sankey. My guess is he will also lose his job before long. Rightfully so.
Why should OSU be mad? OU has been lining OSU’s pockets for years. If OSU left the BIG12 it wouldn’t affect OU one bit. OSU has never won a BIG12 championship game. Maybe they can finally go win something somewhere. Kansas has a better record against OU than OSU does so OU is doing their little sister a big favor by leaving.
Texas needs Oklahoma more than Oklahoma needs Texas
You might want to tell OU fans that when they’re putting the horns down when playing teams that aren’t Texas…
In the Playoff era the Sooners have gone undefeated in conference once and they didnt make the CFP that year. So any idea that the lack of competition in conference has kept them from doing better in the CFP is....a reach.
Are you thinking while you are typing,you just proved you were wrong by what you said
To improve you must be challenged. 1 or 2 teams isn't really a challenge considering no one in the big 12 can beat OU twice in one season. This is a good move for OU from a challenge stand point. I love the big 12 and the big 12 had 5 years to add 2 quality teams to the conference but chose not to. It's time for a change.
Iron sharpens iron.
Don’t have anything to add really, just $$ for Kurtz as the comments add up 👊🏻
My man!
If the big 12 would have offered FSU and Miami when they offered WV, big12 would not be seeing this now
They did offer FSU.
OU and Texas will be playing next year in the SEC , doesn't make any sense joining now but wait 4 years or even 2 . 80 mil each is nothing to both programs and lawsuits if any will drag out for years.
If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is there to see it cease to exist, can it still sue you?
@@Tijuanabill and.. if a Big 12 game is played in 2026, and no one watches it… was it really played?
You can add Cincy, Houston, UFC, and whoever else strikes your fancy and the Big 12 probably isn't a "real" power 5 because they are a mall without an anchor store. And WVU REALLY wants to go to the SEC. I hope OU is playing in the SEC by 2022. And tough night games will just get us ready for night games at LSU and places like that.
dream on- UT wasn’t the friken anchor some believe!
@@bige2012 But OU is, and yeah hate em' or not, and I do so was UT in terms of market and things like that. And if that wasn't true, then Bowlsby wouldn't b e so upset by it.
Just being honest, OSU fans look forward to OU vs OSU more than OU fans do. This isn't going to sting that bad for OU and as the President stated they are willing to still play OSU some seasons.
Them days of conference championships our over when they join the SEC!!
A&M was 7-6 in their last year in the big 12 and 11-2 first year in sec… they were a bottom half of the big 12 team for a decade before leaving
Karma says they will both fail miserably.
You are delusional. It’s now Alabama and Oklahoma.
@@tylergipson2823 they also had Johnny Football
Welcome to the SEC!
And we should give a damn why?
Why are you even here except so you don't have to go door to door telling people what a douche ya R
@@goop3213 That's a good line. I'm stealing that.
@@goop3213 Clever. Must be an OU grad.
Nebraska was the Sooner’s rival, and I truly hated to see that die.
In a pinch the Longhorns had to do.
Cowboys rivalry always seemed like a manufactured Big12 media thing
Agreed, NE vs OU was always better than OSU (little brother) vs OU (big brother) has been.. NE isn't too hot lately but I sure am excited to see NE vs OU this year after such a long time.
It would be awesome if during the Oklahoma vs texas game at the cotton bowl for sooners and short horns fans to chant SEC
If I were running UT, I would have went independent years ago, and just made a schedule out of lower tier Texas teams, and OU. Their fans would love that.
They’d get paid way less in that scenario
looked at Alabama's schedule from last year.....looks like they like to schedule a patsy or 2 every now and then as well....
If you cant beat em, join em. Time to play with the big boys down south! As an SEC guy, I welcome the move! Ou fans: Just dont assume you're going to steamroll everyone once you're in the SEC! It will take time with recruiting and as long as OU makes everyone in the conference better. I have no issue with them joining. Just to be another doormat team like Arkansas or vanderbilt. Making everyone else in the conference better...it just means more in the SEC. Hope for 2022-2023 to be the year the sooners join!
Gundy cannot get it done at ok.st. Ou does get it done. Although, Ou must recruit better defense and stop trying to outscore teams. That will not play out in the sec.
OSU and KSU are going to end up in the mountain west
Thanks for your expert knowledge...how did you manage to get that kinda info?
@@goop3213 who else would want them? And and even if the AAC, ACC, Big10, or PAC12 would want them, why would they won’t to play in an even tougher conference than the Big12? The Big12 has nothing to offer other teams, and the remaining teams really don’t have anything to offer the power conferences.
@@mopar_dude9227 if you say so...make it so .. your talk like they cant or haven't beaten anyone and have no history... kstate has wins over the big10, pac12 ,SEC in the past and it's only coach Kliemans 3rd season and he's 2and0 vs the Sooners.... IF YOU'RE GOING TO TROLL BE PREPARED FOR SOME KICKBACK
where they belong
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