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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but when 99% of the beholders say something is hideous, it's hideous.
"Check the name tag buddy" - B. Holder MD
@l o v e More wooden, less tinny? 😉
That's not how logic works, beauty is either in the eye of the beholder or it's not. If 99% of beholders say "Look at this triangle! With four angles it's even better!" This doesn't make it true.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and aesthetic opinion is normally distributed.
Argumentum ad populum
“See how it almost disappears into its surroundings?”
“NO”
L0L
Just like Niles Crane's wife.
It kind of dominates it actually...
@@maurovijverman861 qqqq
looks like the Old Police station in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada.. pretty similar mindset twitter.com/brutalhouse/status/539821609163685888
"If our ancestors wanted us to live in grey boxes, they could have just surrendered to the Germans" - Holy shit man! lol!
Damn that is heavy
Savage lol
Or moved to the soviet union. The capital of concrete ant hill complexes for expendable stock.
The sad thing is, along with the former communist block, we have the most of these ugly things standing around. It was very attractive building this cheap shit, because some of our bigger cities were almost completely destroyed in the war through bombing. Cologne is a fine example. Berlin is a mix, at least a part of the original buildings were preserved or rebuilt. In Munic the people cared about their beautiful city, so that even many buildings that only partially survived, were reconstructed.
But yeah a German was behind that new fashion as well. The one that founded the Bauhaus movement.
I can only conclude that some of these rather ignorant comments are spouted by
Americanized western cultures? Yes, we have newer structures in some European
cities that many of us dislike as well. But much of the architecture in about every
European city ist older und the most beautiful in the world, especially in Germany.
Post war Germany rebuilt for quite many decades using the same older type of
construction methods und materials.
Most everything rebuilt in my town of Wiesbaden ist extremely beautiful, including most
all Häuser.
We have an extremely large number of older public structures as well most Häuser
are still currently constructed in older central/eastern European Niederländisch style
und ist every where in Germany. So I haven't any idea what some of these TH-camr
people are talking about...
Ignorance of the majority who haven't ever visited central/eastern Europe?
Yes Berlin has many of these ugly cookie-cutter buildings now, but the grey
Reich Chancellery (that this video ist insinuating was ugly) was indeed quite beautiful
as were most buildings destroyed by Allied Bombing during WW2.
Only in more recent decades have such ugly economic westernized construction
methods und ridiculous forms of so called "Art" become more popular.
In dresden (germany) they actually rebuilt some of the old buildings after the war in the same way they looked before they were destroyed because they were so beautiful.
Same in Warsaw. The city was blown off the face of earth during the war. They rebuilt the entire old town exactly as it was before the war based on old paintings.
In Philippines we have an open air museum calles Las Casas Filipinas de Acuzar where houses built from pre-colonial to 1930's were dismantled from it original place then the pieces are numbered and rebuilt them piece by piece in a different area. Sort of like a collection of old houses and mansions. Some of the buildings in the collection however were just a reconstruction of old buildings since some of those were never recovered from war. They only base them from old photos and paintings. Like the ones rebuilt in Warsaw. The buildings were beautiful. A mix of Western and Oriental architecture. No wonder they rebuilt them despite not being physically existent.
“Some things are so ugly they make entire populations depressed”
Thoughty2 just described me
Dw guys max will last 60 more years 50 of those you will stop giving a fuck 👍🐍🇵🇰
Or his moustache.
A German writer said „you can kill someone with an apartment“
Why am I not surprised by this being the top comment...
like new york vs tokyo, tokyo at night makes you curious and joyous to roam around, while in new york, you get creeped out depending where you go, very gloomy
"Or God forbid... *this*" Proceeds to show a photo of my house.
lol I lived in one too
Hey that's my house, are you my brother/sister?
Funny story. I never lived in one:)
I've also spent most of my life living in a flathouse complex, but those were just 4 floors high with steep roofs and were eventually painted in nice, almost pastel yellow, orange and green. Luckily, I had to move few months after interior renovations, where someone thought it was good idea to paint walls yellow and install gloomy, rather weak, yellow-hued lightbulbs. I was getting sleepy everytime I've walked those hallways.
@@NaoyaYami I feel enlightened, Thank you
I can thank modern architecture for teaching me to love classic, roman and gothic architecture.
Same , but now I miss old architecture even more and feel sad that I never got to experience it
Also art deco
Same
@@ssssSTopmotion move to europe, easy
nah cause they very much built shit like that cause they loved it too
There needs to be another Renaissance in the appreciation of classical ideals. Those things are currently considered passé and are no longer taught anymore. The Classics are "irrelevant" in current academia. We are living in a modern Dark Age of architecture. And until the new Renaissance happens, we are doomed to be subjected to more and more hideous buildings.
Not only architecture, but art in general
@@josecano326 Agreed.
Real craftsmanship cost real money. Now its about get it done as cheap as possible.. By luck it doesn't fall in.
@@buckackerman9256 while part of that of is true skilled labor has to build those buildings they are structural sound they won't catch fire because skilled laborers have a strong work ethic and are craftsman that take pride in their work, art on the other hand. The way the building looks is the result of some one archectech who thinks he's a genius but is as stupid as my left nut. He's not an artists anymore then the guy that scatters garbage and calls it a modern think prices and talks about it like it was genius and not just trash. Get it done cheap isn't possible cause skilled trade remain one of the few stronger powerful unions remaining and we like the iron bank will have our due...the higher morons are willing to pay in rent to live in shitty microstudios the higher we get paid. A bid expects a 10- 20% profit margin 25-50% for labor and 10%-20% for materials and.
The material themselves are determined by code not business.
Also it's cheaper to have a wooden wall with wooden sidings than it is to have a window frame the size of a wall that can hold a single piece of seemless glass, that bends at two opposing 90° angles twice for no reason that it is to have a wall so that for a porch.
The more shitty s***** looking to architecture the more it's going to cost in labor because contractors finding the architecture to be disgusting are likely to bid higher knowing that the general contractor doesn't know how much it should cost to build a building because they don't know how to design buildings
And that dark age we're living in doesn't just include architecture, that's for sure.
"if our ancestors wanted us to live in grey boxes they could've just surrendered to the germans" LMFAO
Or the Soviets
@Christine Taggart what are you French?
@@Swanky11 To be fair though the housing situation was in every way desperate and the people did legitimately cherish their new flats at the time those were build taking active participation to make them more homely by planting flowers, setting up makeshift play areas and painting the fences...
Sadly that is going out with the generation of people who originally got these flats...
I think you need to take a trip to Deutschland (Germany) see some of the most beautiful architecture ever created. It was the East Germans under pressure from the Soviets to build that hideous trash you see in places like Berlin, Dresden, etc.
@@romanmichaelhamilton8729
Oh I am more than sure the Huns would have built some decent houses for themselves but just about everyone else would be slowly snuffed out of existence....
When Minecraft architecture is more beautiful than modern architecture
Nah
@@marcduchamp5512 yah
Modern Minecraft houses have taught me to love modern architecture, although I still love rustic style buildings
@@homiespaghetti1522 i feel that it only looks good in minecraft because squares and blocks mix into the environment and doesnt stick out like what modern architecture does to nature
@@marcduchamp5512 Just look at my (or any church/cathedral) built or being build in minecraft, and compare those half square half natural curved details to the utterly plain straight lines of the average modern real-life building. For the same effect you could also compare the basic superflat world where a plain grass block is all you'll see to a normal world.
You know when even Xi Jinping expresses disgrace for "ugly architecture and call back for a revival in beautiful and traditional architecture, it's bad.
Ok THATS worrying.
Or then just all authoritarians left and right have the same traditionalist backwards desires to earlier "glory days of superiority".
Ikr
Even xi wants to revive chinese architecture
Wich is a turn around as his party was actually responsible for destroying everything that reminded people of the past. Books, art, history teachers.... all so the country could make a fresh start without anything that would remind them of the oppresive empirium they ones lived under.
Somehow this reminded me of the time I was studying abroad in the UK in Bath. I believe they even have a local law preventing modern style buildings from being constructed there, even if you build a new construction it has to have the same architechture than sorrounding constructions, so the University was build atop of a hill where it could be built in a modern style. Same in some Mexican small towns.
Yes Bath is a very beautiful city which is also strictly monitored by UNESCO (as the whole city is a UNESCO World Heritage site).
Phantom - i live 30 mile up road from bristol and my little town /hamlet has Grade 2 on most of the buildings, if you are replacing bricks or window frames they must be like for like, there is a certain brick that must be used.
This is, generally speaking, a nationwide thing - to obtain planning permission, buildings need to be "in keeping" with the structures around them. Of course, who decides what is in keeping changes with every local and national election, and if you happen to get a very airy-faery MP that has some half-baked notion of progressivism in their head, you start to see something that looks more akin to an unfinished painting by Monet or Mondrian than an actual building
@@jameswalker199 thats actually not true, there is zoning laws and laws on what the building will be used for its utility and how much land it consumes etc, but not its appearance. thats very rare to happen if at all. most all places dont give a damn and even the towns that do are doing it out of their own volition.
Clearly after the wars they thought: Eh, there's no point building anything nice since it'll just get flattened in the next war
that depressing in itself, but sounds about right!
socity became more collective and more socialist, had to make lots of cheap ugly buildings, that's all the commoners deserved
True
The next war will be trying to flatten them
@@buddymoore6504 No it was the extreme capitalists, making everything super cheap.. 42 just said that also. But everyone knows that is the real reason.. cheap ass rotten capitalism
7:12 fun fact: the “walkie-talkie” reflects the sun in such a way that it melts the paint off cars parked in certain spots during the day
A free paint removal I see
Seems like a bit of a hazard, can they do anything about it or is its just a "Oh well nothing we can do about it now"?
I heard it (and many other buildings) cause birds to die. They fly into the reflected beam of sunlight and cause them to be burned and blinded.
It doesn’t. It used to though.
@@TheUsuallySilentOne Yes we can do something about it. Wait fifty years then knock it down.
'That wouldn't be out of place in a George Orwell novel'
How fitting, we're in one anyway.
miniluv will make us love big brother. miniluv will destroy wrongthink. wrongthink is ++ungood.
"Ugliness is false economy. Beauty is eternal". DAMN! I am keeping that one.
It is EXCELLENT to see a man acknowledge that beauty is objective
beauty is subjective, but it has some VERY common characteristics
@@ravimediatube its not subjective, and this isnt the only guy to talk to about this
@@exchangAscribe talk to the hand
Modern archetecture is like dealing with that one kid in a minecraft server who only builds box houses
Trust me, it's worst when someone builds a house without any blockvariation
Correct
@Quentin Styger That's capitalism for ya - the only thing that matters is profit, so you want the cheapest materials and labor, simplest (and lest costly) design to build, and fastest means of construction which you can market as "LUXURY" to justify the criminal cost to purchase or rent one of these monstrosities - to increase your profit margins. All you gotta say is that you're merely charging "as much as people are willing to pay" - a copout excuse since literally EVERYTHING ELSE is built the same way and people don't have much of a choice BUT to pay your inflated prices. THAT is how the real estate racket is run in the US for the plebs. For the rich, they destroy public buildings, SROs and cheap hotels to build huge towers to wealth and ego which remain nearly empty because their purpose is not to be lived in, but to be used to park money in like a bank. It's the rage with elite nationals as well as foreigners who purchase million-dollar apartments around the world.
@@Moosemoose1 capitolism has created some of the most beautiful buildings on planet earth ......do you think socialist systems like Soviet Russia (THE BASTARDS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BIG BLANK APARTMENTS ? LMAO!) Plz stop pleaseeeeee your embarrassing yourself .
The modern devotion to ugliness is truly bizarre.
That’s because it’s a reaction to everything old society stood for. Beauty, excellence, decor, and style struggle for good has been replaced by a reactionary ideology based on the worship of ugliness, imperfection, plainness and hedonism.
@@imperiumoccidentis7351 money/profit thing
@@imperiumoccidentis7351 the ideology was actually "what is this shit, why do we need it, god that makes no sense it doesn't even look good". Things like the Bauhaus existed because people genuinely thought to themselves that maybe if you changed it to something more reasonable we could still make it work in a modern environment.
@@slyseal2091 Are you seriously defending modern architecture?
@@imperiumoccidentis7351 pretty successfully now since what I said can be backed up with statements and pictures while what you said is solely based on an observation from buildings that werent made to look good as well, and thats ignoring it's in direct contrast to what my previous example, the Bauhaus, intended.
In engineering school we were taught; that building ones own home or habitat is a human right. But now we are slowly losing that right through legislative process. 😈
yup building old designs wouldn't even be legal anymore, eu regulations . just like with cars, cars can't be pretty because drunk or high pedestrians who run naked against your car need to land softly and undamaged on your hood. cause all that matters are numbers. Nobody ever questions the madness in making every car bigger and heavier to keep up with regulations .. which again increases the fuel consumption and the severity of crashes because everything is bigger and heavier. regulations are the enemy . I can choose to drive a dangerous motorcycle why shouldn't I be allowed to choose driving a beautiful but less safe car ? they want to decide everything for us at the expense of freedom and life quality
@@nocensorship8092 I like your thinking if i ever lead a brutal uprising to create an anarchic state i'll quote you
There is no such thing as rights. 'They' are used to manipulate the population. Often revoked under "special circumstances".
We are losing everything through legislative process. That's all they have to actually do.
Except for making our lives harder while making their lives easier, what do they do? :)
Though the city should have some sort of constant design to it so it does not luck like an unholy amalgamation.
@@Ninjaananas Never been to a city that doesn't look that way. There may well be some, just I've never seen one. Any hints? :)
I thought the London assembly building was called the glass testicle, not heard it ever called the Armadillo.
that's who inhabits it , aye !
I hate the city where i live becouse it literary looks and functions as the shit,but it seams that cruise ship tourist are loving it so much,that they only spend lunch money when they are in visit.PS:Luckely i have Horizon Zero Dawn,so i play it when ever i want to see beautifull aloy and the beautifull nature,and i play it every day.
Thats exactly as horrific a name as it deserves and I don't even know what it looks like.
Isn't the Armadillo in Glasgow on the Clydeside?😁
Thoughty2: "No one had the heart to tear down the Colosseum..."
Catholics having used the missing chunk to build St. Peter's Square: *nervous laughter...*
PoatoKing Well making something quite nice looking from already nice looking is just good recycling.
I thought that it half crumbled because of an earthquake.
Edit: I fixed my grammar because I somehow didn't type "it".
@@xyAKMxy Most imperial remnants in Rome were scavenged for construction materials during the middle ages.
They used to be in a far worse shape than they are now, we owe a great deal to Mussolini on that front for he had undergone a great project to renovate the city and it's monuments
A lot of pre 20th century Cairo is built from stone scavenged from Dynastic Eqypt
@@mpetersen6 And Old Cairo is stunningly beautiful.
some say they keep the blueprints for nice modern buildings in area 51...
Soon...
Alright lets send John wick and Doomguy in there.
@@rokor3578 Bruh
They will be found on the 20th sept
The raid's only six days away, boys.
Me living in a third world country who couldn't care less about form: "If it fits, I sits."
Seriously though, most houses are built like prisons to ward off burglars. And even then sometimes it's not enough.
should go back to gated city's with walls. worked in the middle ages and then you can get rid of the bars..
@Sweetbutter Cupcakes So anything below Extravagant Opulence is a "shithole".
@@durakeno5575 Yes.
Poverty is a prison in itself, a dirty form of slavery, an abomination. And instead of eradicating poverty itself they try to kill off the poor. I don't blame the poor for being poor, they are kept that way.
You are correct, which is why when societies become prosperous enough, they beautify their society with art, music, and architecture. It is a marvelous thing to be at a point where your society isn't so poor that just staying alive is the goal. I don't think you or your neighbors want things to be INTENTIONALLY ugly, like these places.
It is only post-war that modernists decided that taking everything beautiful and making it ugly was preferable. It is actually a slap in the face to those countries who do struggle. They're basically saying, "We know we aren't bad off, but we're going to make our cities look like trash. Equality!" 🤮 As if poorer nations don't also appreciate beauty 😠
It is also an insult because these monstrosities cost millions and millions of dollars (usually of tax payer funds) to create. They aren't taking little and making it as beautiful as possible, they're taking a lot and making it hideous.
My family also came from third world conditions and I remember my grandma always trying to make our small home as beautiful as possible. She was so proud of it; I can't imagine what she would've thought of these intentionally awful buildings.
I love old buildings, they have character and are built better. The rooms are larger and they invariably have more space around them and mature gardens. Old Building have a smell to them as well and that smell is comforting. They have history to them and are extremely interesting. I am one who hates concrete tall buildings, I hate buildings that are all glass and boring, show me good and interesting architecture and I am happy. I love Toodyay in WA as it is all original.
Why does this guy look young and old at the same time🤔
m o u s t a s c h e
It's the moustache and hair. Super classy; everything else looks really young.
@@analogueapples he looks like a 12 year old/60 year old lol
Lmao
It's the voice
The whole point was for the new architecture to be soul destroying.
yep.
you're right on the money
@Seb Ba Correct. Also, a guy named Nimrod attempted this before, look what happened to him.
@Seb Ba Easy, easy. I think you gave a very appropriate description of how the whole thing worked. Architects didn't sit down to intentionally harm people, they just did what they could with what they had. Nimrod did the same in my opinion when he started the Tower of Babel; now that one came crashing down and had everyone confused, left to build something more humane from the rubble. This was meant as a nodding comment on what you wrote.
The tower of Babel is a warning against Ego. So is this entire video.
Regardless of intention, the effect of these shapes is to make people uneasy, and uncaring. No one is going to fight to preserve the Gherkin, and so there will be no unspoken transmission of culture through building. This is a terrible loss. It also encourages people to have even more inflated egos than normal, and endangers us all.
This story is about a lot more than architecture.
I’m always amazed with how much this guy has improved throughout the years. Major props to you for sticking with it and improving on your craft! From the editing to the narration. Just brilliant!
This video should be required viewing for every city council. Masterfully eloquent.
We could be living in an art deco wonderland, but instead we got this.
Architecture follows demographics.
More and more demand for housing will cause the need for cheaper material and zero creativity as everyone will copy the easiest design.
It's going to get worse.
Raj Gandhi 50’s prefab houses still looked nice at least.
I've never actually seen an art deco house, so I don't know how it would work.
We got art decoy instead. They lure people into hideous buildings with fancy words but in essence what they sell is ugly 100%
I was born and raised in Birmingham and you are spot on. The city had many gorgeous buildings before the town planners had their way with it in the 1960's and again in the 1980's and indeed now. Soulless monstrosities placed around the place at random. Thankfully I don't live there anymore.
I could kinda tell by your English name that you don't live in Birmingham anymore. You know, because of the ethnic cleansing and all
Cheap Ore what’s my name got to do with where I’ve chosen to live, and what’s ethnic cleansing got to do with the price of fish?
Your namesake in the States is the same. Old, gorgeous antebellum and classical buildings swallowed up by desultory rectangular constructs. They’re ugly & depressing.
I can stand function. I also think there is a potential for inherent beauty in simplicity. Potentially. What really gets me though is when they pretentiously claim it's a work of art and has some kind of deeper meaning. If we're going to put function before form then at least go back to actually making it functional. I'd rather grey and glass boxes over the fucking Gherkin as a 'work of art.'
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 By the amount that you seem to care, I bet you studied architecture. Always glad to find someone thinking the same way. We all know that economic backgrounds and culture change and it reflects in our built environment - sometimes for the worst. But I can't stand when people just subjectively discredit every architect's work post 1900 as evil, and inhumane.
I admire the designers of the Walkie Talkie building - They created a death solar ray that melted everything in it's path. They should get a medal for that!
I'm a general contractor and I live by the desire of creating beautiful creations.
Please use thicker walls. I can hear everything my family does in the house!
@Dillinger
Move out of the US, then you don't have to deal with houses made of Weetabix, Pritt Stick, and hope.
You have no idea how much my Minecraft World needed this video.
Literally just took the thought out of my head
@@Colbenstein My colony in Colonial survival needs roof for their beds 😂
Minecraft house 🏠
@skullpull 101 thanks
Why dont we have round blocks
Just wait. Cargo container homes are becoming more popular.
Ohh, I can't wait. They're truly the epitome of modern luxury living.
They have an apartment building made strictly of shipping containers where I live. It's cheap rent though.
I would love my walls to have a metallic reverb
When your on a budget style isn’t the main selling point
After I first played watchdogs I absolutely wanted a caro crate house
If someone builds a cube in minecraft with world edit and calls it a beautiful base, everybody would laugh. Not so much in reallife
Becuase it's sad to see it in real life that's why.
As a disabled Craftsman. I always enjoyed working on the houses from the 1900s or older. However most of them were very difficult to work on because to replicate what they did yesterday when you have no idea how they originally did it is not an easy thing to do. What I used to do was match very closely if not perfectly to existing trim and woodwork. Along with just about everything else from the foundation up except for the roof I don't do two story Heights. But my best skills by far were matching The Woodworking up the thing that many try to do along with claim they could. But was very butchered by past Carpenters.. I'm more Extremely dedicated finish Carpenter before I was disabled
Your moustache is a form of beautiful modern art my man
It reminds me of my uncle
Who's in jail
For reasons
Even his mustache is efficiently straight and not aesthetic
Such a master piece of modern art must have a explendid end
@@pranavdeshpande4538 ☻
No it's definitely post war and needs to be taken down.
"Not everything is beautiful, for instance"
me: me
sexy mustache man: dog excrement
me: close enough 🤷♂️
Mood
s-sexy....?
@@localshithead7430 Indeed😉😌😏
I think you mean "same thing".
I’m studying industrial design, and I’ve been studying more or less since 2015, started my bachelor in engineering within the subject 2017 and I’ll finish my master 2022. I’ve been itchy about the form follows function, which been the mantra throughout every design class I’ve studied. It’s sad that they try so hard to indoctrinate students to strictly follow it. Good design should be where the function is intuitive and the aesthetics is admirable.
I think that modern architecture can be beautiful. For example, the Gardens of the Bay park in Singapore, completed in 2012, is a beautiful place to be in.
However, nobody would ever suggest that a brutalist tower block is better looking than the Palace of Versailles or that Golden Temple in Japan.
The man who said that famous line of form follows function, his name was louis sullivan but if you see his architecture it has ornamentation, my favorite is the guarenty building I wonder why proportion and ornament and craftsmanship is not valued no more in architecture. Architecture is lost right now and it truly is sad.
@@javierpacheco8234 Is my point above not true? I know Gardens of the Bay isn't technically a building, but it's still architectural design
@@javierpacheco8234 Yep! Louis Sullivan's quote that "Form ever follows function" was totally misrepresented by architects who followed him. Sullivan's life's work was totally antithetical to the idea that function was somehow more important than form. Instead, he saw the two as being so intimately intertwined that they grew together simultaneously like a plant. I'll be making a video about this eventually.
@@ThrownAwayVoices good, I saw a documentary about Louis Sullivan and he always wanted his ornament to be part of the America. There are documentaries about him on how he wanted to create architecture that represents america. It's pretty interesting.
This is eerily accurate. I never actually noticed how sad or annoyed or indifferent I feel when im in a commercial centre and how i feel more talkative and cheery I am when im at a historic site.
If I could, my house would be build the Mexican old fashion way. A house made of adobe, painted in white or dark red with wooden windows and doors, red roof tiles and surround it with trees and flowers. That's how my grandfather's house was built and it is still there after God knows how many years.
I'd also build my house similar looking to my grandparents' house because of how sentimental it is to me. Gosh, I miss that house so much...
Ironically that's the colonial style architechture seen all throughout latin america. We have them in Venezuela as well.
@@deadsoon . I guess it is the southern Spanish style. But I think in Spain they don't use adobe to build.
@@twittyfatcat8562 The Spanish used french skulls for insulation. Very high class
@@umpteenexpression530 And the French used the skulls of the rich. Very proletariat.
I feel like he was looking at pictures of English cities and just cracked then wrote this video
Australian cities are pretty hideous too.
Or American cities
Britain still contains many, beautifully preserved towns and cities e.g York, Canterbury, Lincoln, Edinburgh, Manchester (parts), London (again parts), Oxford, Cambridge, Bath (most parts), Chester and many more. As for towns there’s almost countless perfectly preserved examples. You’ve just got to know where to look. Forgive any grammar just smoked a big dubbie
Britain has some lovely cities, but the main ones are not the best due to the Industrial Revolution and World War 2 bombing damage. British cities like Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, etc were the industrial cities that were formed in the 18th century from tiny market towns into huge industrial hubs, later to not only be destroyed largely by bombings, but by post war city planners who continued to tear down British cities to make way for their progress. As I said Britain still has a lot of lovely cities however the main ones tend to be on the ugly side. Edinburgh, Bath, York, Canterbury, Durham, and plenty of others are my personal favourites.
Or just went outside for too long
"old buildings subtly connect us to our past"
And now you know why they're being destroyed.
The way one feels walking amongst antique buildings says it all. Relaxed and calm.
When I need a relaxing stroll I seek out these places. Even just pictures of them make me feel different from photos of modern buildings.
Architecture in the past looked better because I feel like people back then had passion in design, nowadays everything is just made for profit and efficiency.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache you’re right
Couldn't make it through the first 3 minutes without commenting eh?
Just Some Guy without a Mustache
Not true, look at pictures of modern skyscrapers, those are super cool looking
Just Some Guy without a Mustache agreed I hate the modern age architecture
Right on point, we're working like robots.
I thought this video was about Genghis Khan burning all the cities he came across during his conquest. LOL.
But you found something more interesting
You didn't see the thumbnail
@@maxespinosa5004 Yeah because the gherkin building is much more interesting to read about over Genghis Khan
😆
Yea lol but it is an diffierent story lol
"A thing of beauty is a joy forever"- I am thrilled that the world is re-remembering that beauty is a virtue, like honesty, dedication and compassion, it makes us human and distinguishes us from simpler creatures.
Here here; I'm surprised you didn't make mention of Bath. A perfect beautiful city with incredibly strict rules about what can be built there. Every building must be made from Bath stone, it's so at peace with itself.
Bath is absolutely beautiful; so much so that the entire city is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
This might get lost in the comments but I had to post it anyway.
As a Junior Architect and Urban Designer, I approve and that thank you for this video.
Modernism, like many other forms, was a reflexive result of people who grew up and were "tired" of the overly decorated buildings. But this was not the biggest mover to modernism.
The LARGEST "influencer" behind modernism was the incredibly advancement of technology. During the 19th century and 20th century technology advanced at a pace never before seen in human history. Many early and late modernists saw this technology (which was very functional) and extrapolated it to the environments humans live in (In a VERY oversimplified manner of fact). Of course there were people who, after the first World War, sought an abandonment of all the pre-war modernization fervor, and a complete return to the pre-industrial craftsman, however, this like so many other styles, was simply a gut reaction. Think of the switching of architectural styles and trains of thought as a pendulum constantly swinging from one side to another, with little resistance.
What we see today is the aftermath of these gut reactions to what "experts" said was the proper, future way of, or natural way of life for modern people. Part of architectural history that you learn about in school (mostly at a undergrad level and definitely at a master's level [at least in the US]) are the reasons behind various architectural styles, epochs, and etc. as well as what results because of them.
I always tell people that architecture is THE MOST INFLUENTIAL profession out of any other in the world today or has ever existed. This is because of everything that interacts with it, or is affected because of it. ( It is actually quite scary when you really start to break it down.)
Lastly, I appreciate your inclusion of Le Corbusier because of his, heart in the right place, but practicality not there legacy he left. In a way he is one of the most influential modernists of all time, however he was a part of the late modernist movement (before it transitioned to Neo Modernism) (he was also talked about in the same breath as Van der Rohe and Wright). HOWEVER it is important to note that many of these modernists, in their later years, reverted back to their traditional schooling and traditional thought about architecture (AKA the natural [anything not modern for simplicity]). Some of Le Corbusier's final works are completely different from his ideas and works that made him famous, because of the fact that modernism, in its truest sense and form does not stand up to human life and the test of time. Contrary to what people may think new and younger architects and students actually prefer the "older" styles however, it is our worlds constant need for everything yesterday and the decrease in the number of skill artisans, craftsman and general skilled positions, as well as the increasingly restrictive quagmire of legality, responsibility and money that has caused modernist ideals and designs to stay around for so long (in oversimplified short).
Sorry for the rant and if you stuck around this long thanks!
Dmania1000 I agree with everything besides the bit about architecture being the most influential profession. Business owners and developers are influential, architects are mere tools who can at limited times influence the direction of the designs but ultimately don’t have the last word. Rem Koolhaas himself said this in a recent lecture.
Damn Son
As someone who is in the architectural field, I fully agree with what is written.
Though, most if not all of the "statement" that thoughty have said is eurocentric it does apply to everywhere else in the world.
Architecture is a field that is constantly changing. With newer technology, newer material, newer philosophy it would not always be the same.
Modernism happen because the people, society as a whole were changing. WW1, WW2, and the introduction of steel and capitalism change the view on what is the priority.
Form? Or Function? With the understanding of the history and context behind the modern movement thoughty should be understanding of the reason on why it happened.
But he only see the bare bones of the history. While excluding the event in which post-modernism denouncing modernist/the international style.
How the failure of modernism give way to more appreciation towards the aesthetical value of ornaments and forms.
His example are also base of correlation rather than evidence. The coliseum for an example, it could also be preserve because of it's cultural and historical value rather than its "beauty".
"Beauty" is subjective. It is something that is learned. If it wasn't then the standard of beauty between the East and West wouldn't be different.
While I do agree most if not all the modern building that he have shown are ugly in a sense. But those are in the stage of development for the modernist movement.
Falling water (isn't actually a full modern building), and villa savoye both have it's own aesthetical value that shouldn't be undermine for just because it doesn't fit our world view.
Not to mention, while the architect may be the lead of a project. The final say is in the client.
Modern buildings are cheap, fast, and easy to construct. The economical value in comparison to older architectural style is quite vast (short term or long term).
This would undoubtedly color some judgement.
In my opinion function would always triumph over form. But, as a designer we should always consider for whom we are designing.
A human, or a machine. Just because we prioritize the function of the building we shouldn't ignore the users. Because that is one of the main failure of modernism.
Modernism is a idealistic movement, to create a Utopia. It emphasis on uniformity, "less is more" but that is where it went wrong.
Dam how long did this take you?
@@azka7804 they're used to writing long shit cause of the degree
10:35 I love how you showed Eiffel Tower as a symbol of beauty of Paris, when people 150 years ago were complaining about it the same way you do about post-war architecture.
Facts!
Yeah, did you know that part of the colyseum is missing because people used it as a source of stone for new buildings.
to be fair the Eiffel tower is just a naked skyscraper.
That's a fair point but the circumstances are pretty different; the Eiffel Tower was something new at the time, people probably complained mostly because they weren't used to it and maybe because it was so tall and visible, and this is all not to mention that the tower was just one building. Modern architecture has been ubiquitous for decades, if anything people are so familiar with it that they're sick of looking at it regardless of its objective merits.
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There are different styles of post-war architecture. Some are more ubiquitous and some are less. When one style becomes so ubiquitous that people are sick of it, next one comes in. And then after a while the old comes back with little modifications.
That’s how it always was. Nothing changed.
You know what’s beautiful?? This guy is beautiful, because such videos make my heart race and feel that there is still hope for humanity to come back from darkness. 🌺
Become an architect and learn the traditional and classical styles. I'm also studying to become an architect and want to make classical and traditional architecture.
@@javierpacheco8234 God bless you if you can find a client with the same mindset as yours.
Notice that everything old has beautiful symmetry, the new is asymmetrical. Old has detailing and evokes emotions, new is devoid of anything ornamental and feels cold and soulless.
This video gave me a eureka moment, you somehow were able to perfectly articulate everything I hate about modern architecture and design
Pre war architecture makes me feel alive
this is how i feel about every single thoughty2 video haha its insane he talks about everything i think about.
Gangsta Steve only way I can get through thoughty videos is watching them on 2x playback speed
@@anthonyd9844 they are lengthy, but the titles and the subject of the video usually just sums up what i have been thinking about for the past year.
I love modern archetecture
When it’s overgrown by plant life.
Bet you love some of the new wave of buildings going up, then. They're covered in plants as part of the design.
@Kurt Barryman ok
@Kurt Barryman ok
@Kurt Barryman youtube is asking for your location. Allow it
Kurt Barryman Lmao what a troll
When he said, and this monstrous basterd I nearly died. 🙈
Every architect should watch this.
Broke: Form comes after function
Woke: Function comes after form
Bespoke: Form *IS* function
A S C E N D E D
Bam!!
Broke: Too realistic and salty
Woke: Too unrealistic
Bespoke: Fuck reality check, you will live in jailcell because it is beautiful.
Form fucks function
Baudrillard's "sign-value" in consumerism
A fact about the "tour montparnasse" in Paris: people were totally against it saying it would be ugly and break the skyline so it was built as a test and if it was indeed judged as ugly, they would not build skyscrapers anymore.
Since everyone agreed it is ugly, a law was passed that forbids building skyscrapers in Paris. The only area excluded is "la defence" where you can see the rare modern towers.
Similar in Munich, no building is allowed to be taller than the Cathedral of Our Dear Lady, which is 99 m. However there are some buidings that are bit higher, built before the law was passed.
Yet there's no reason skyscrapers *have* to be ugly. This video includes the Empire State Building as an example. It was the tallest building in the world for half of the 20th century, is still far taller than anything in Paris, and it's definitely not ugly. It's true that at the extremes of engineering form will have to at least somewhat follow function, but there's always room for detailing. Hell, I'd argue that the Burj Khalifa is rather pleasing to the eye.
Too late, the damage is done... they should've listened to the people in the 1st place.
@@NozomuYume Empire state is ugly if you compared to the beauty of Paris
@@NozomuYume Argeed. It's all because of people who are called "architects"
In the 1960s, Dallas (my hometown) had a beautiful skyline...the stone sculptured Magnolia building (with the famous lighted red Pegasus on top...the Mercantile building, the Republic Bank building (with a magnificent rocket ship on top) were the icons of the city...now they obscured by the huge metal and glass monstrosities that have engulfed the uniqueness and beauty of Dallas...
I really felt the enthusiasm and passion behind the making of this video more so than the others. this video was truly beautiful all on its own
This reflects my sentiments exactly! Cities are fook ugly, rundown and over filled - which is why I bought a nice wobbly 250 year old house out in the countryside. How ironic that they demolished the house next door, which was way older than mine recently,, to replace it with a angular monstrosity that resembles a large portaloo with windows.
The only peace of mind I have is knowing it'll fall down in a couple of decades, at which point I'll buy the land, plant loads of trees and the world can get to fook with it's modern shite.
fook
How much you spend to buy the building and land
so you move out into the country and some asshole moves right next door, eh? same old story
Do you live somewhere in Europe? Because in my experience buildings “way” over the age of 250 years should have some sort of protection, therefore I find it strange that your neighbour was able to demolish his/ her house. I also live in a period property (a half-timbered house built in the early 1400’s), and almost all of the houses in my village in the East of England are listed; the village also has a strict new build policy stopping anyone from building anything that strays too far from the local vernacular (definitely no buildings resembling “large portaloos”)!
Don't even. Every single building here in Russia is ugly asf, except for the beautiful ones that all photographers take pictures of and call it "Russia".
Well those buildings are the corpse of your former beautiful country
Apartment complex everywhere you look. Communism has left it's mark.
Soulless internationalist communist block buildings of nearly 80 years of the Soviet Union tends to do that. Sadly we in the West have this shit as well, maybe not as bad but it’s getting there....urgh
Imagine having almost the same buildings from Berlin to Beijing, from Moscow to Vladivostok, from Bucharest to Ulaanbataar, from Prague to Pyongyang. That's the greatest achievement of socialism, haha.
Just one of many reasons we won't let the commie leftists get their way in America. One of many.
That's exactly why Im studying architecture. Today's architecture seems almost standarize, everything looks the same.
While before, there were many styles and truly beautiful architecture.
The last best era for architecture was the 1920's till the 40's until modernists ideology came to existence and indoctrinated architecture education and architects philosophy to design this style and only this style.
The idea of throwing politicians into the coliseum w/bears sounds quite beautiful to me, as long as the odds are for the bears.
I've always wondered why I hated the design of modern houses both inside and out. It's because of the boring flat planes and weird edges.
"just because one weirdo out there has a personal liking for the appearance of dog turd, does not make it an objectively beautiful creation."
Some snowflake is going to be offended by that, lol.
The Left has really fucked things up.
Your insight on this issue is impeccable. Having worked in various utilitarian, soulless boxes I couldn't agree more. Bring back Stone-Masonry ASAP.
Mass timber construction is the future we need
In the 50’s and 60’s city and town centers in Sweden were torn down and new concrete and glass houses were erected, making every town in Sweden look much the same.
And as a hint, look up the high school of architecture in Stockholm 🤢
I guess that’s why there is a lot more good Minecraft builds of old style homes and cities :b.
I think Minecraft with what it provides (swords, tools) simply makes for a game better suited for medieval-ish times. There are a lot of gorgeous builds from every era in minecraft, it's just easier to have a mindset for medieval looking builds in a medieval-like game. I don't find much corelation to the fact with what you described :P
Yeah, I usualy build in a mix of suburban and victorian
Yet, for every beautiful home with sloped roofing, gardens and attic windows, theres a thousand oak plank boxes.
@@blazethegryphon9990 It's a great analogy for Form>Function.
Would you rather build and base in a beautifully placed house with all sorts of thought put into where to place slabs/stairs/etc or would you rather live in a massive obsidian box with chests everywhere?
@@machomanalexyt5736 i have started playing Minecraft 2 days ago, and living in a big cobblestone cuboid made me feel anxious af, especially in the night time, so i spent like 3 hours designing a tiny mansion with second floor and a balcony and now i feel like home there, so yeah, i think this game is a perfect analogy to the modern world we live in.
Speak for yourself sir, I’m holding out hope for the politicians being fed to bears
Same
Where do I vote for that?
Same, the whole of the uk politics and order needs a revamp, what is allowed to go on in this country within politics, the media, our cities and streets is atrocious.
I beg you, please, think about those poor souls before you torture them like that! What wrong those bears did to you? What?
Yeeeeessssssss!!!!!!!!!
At 0:32 your Northern Accent sounds brill, the long vowel Baastard always gives the game away.
Respects 👍🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
My favorite architect is Frank Loyd Wright. He was ahead if his time. He included nature in his philosophy, and yet the buildings look modern to this day.
Function without form is boring.
Which is still better than your typical spec builder who doesn't even care about function and just produces something big, inefficient and ugly that they hope some dunce will drop a fortune on.
@timothy selix ...in city construction, yes.
Like Toyota and BMW😶
Warren R
I like my buildings that I like my women
Form without function is modern art.
“Except for futurist Dubai”.
Will be gone in 20 years, covered in sand dunes. Glass and steel is crap in the desert near the gulf.
Museum of Drawing that would be interesting to see...
Cant wait for it
And they'll eventually run out of oil anyway.
😂😂😂 you think we don't build with that in mind?
@Its on black Yep. In this day and age we have the tools to do just that, repeatedly, without fail. m.th-cam.com/video/zaB6Jzxy1uI/w-d-xo.html
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Woah, my town is featured!
“They paved paradise, put up a parking lot.”
A lot of survival bias is involved as well. Older buildings that sucked existed, but most have been torn down (or fell down). Similarly, there are good buildings still being built, but they have not yet had the crappy buildings around them pruned away.
That said, I don't disagree with the idea that older buildings can be amazing, or that mass-built buildings are a travesty.
of course it's not impossible to build something nice nowadays, it's just not that common.
The NW trade center looks way better in my opinion. I guess that's one modern example.
Also, people had only a little space back then, often sharing a room with their relatives. It meant that the buildings could be hand made. Now everyone wants their own apartment or house and it is impossible to build them in so detailed way because it is way too expensive for a normal family.
However, I don't understand some design choices they do right now. Even if the people living there have the money. For instance, windows are always flat and window frames are usually ugly or unproportional (the side that opens has a thicker frame). Some of the examples he had were really ugly, but the other ones were just a matter of taste, like that bacteria-looking building for instance. That reminded me of a spaceship, maybe even something steampunk. Examples of post-war family houses and office buildings were really ugly.
I wasn't convinced that art isn't a matter of taste just because a quote from Plato. If there are people who think that brutalism or large weird shaped glass houses are attractive then it obviously is their idea of beauty. I know people who don't like old architecture at all, especially from countries where everything is ancient, they like modern-looking cities. That doesn't mean they like every new building though.
The problem is the huge number of ugly and cheap buildings are today for the sake of economy.
The biggest problem is when such buildings get in the historical part of the cities.
Not true. In the cases that slum areas from centuries past actually did survive, they are considered beautiful today. It is very hard to construct something noticeably "ugly" from natural materials such as wood, mudbricks etc.
Most modern architects having horrible taste doesn't help.
Because of all things humans do, art was totally the one we needed to cull out.
An Architect is someone who failed at both Engineering & Art.
@@Kpopzoom lol!
It's not the architect's fault. They also want to make beautiful building. But it's the people who pay for that building that want it that way. Singapore is beautiful because the government have a say for anything being made and its small enough to control.
@@vindicted84 Some buildings in the West have huge budgets from the government and still look like total pile of talentless sh*t.
There’s a reason why all post apocalyptic movies take place in decaying modern cities.
As a retired architect, I agree 100%.
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The “Gherkin”? Lol I moved to london recently and I call that one the butt plug (And I never even name buildings but that one was asking for it) lmao
Almost killed me XD
Jesus fucking Christ that was hilarious 🤪🤪🤪
Muzzardonmyfeet i kinda like the gherkin.
@@really296 You like a building shaped like a butt plug? 🤪🤪🤪
Yet I lived there for years and have always known it as the Gherkin. I honestly thought that was the actual name until now.
I think that the Sydney Opera house is a great example of good modern architecture. Melbourne also has a nice balance of both.
yeah, I just find it hilarious how these losers in the comment section seem to think everything modern is horrible while looking at cheap, mass produced, apartment buildings. It's easy to find flaws if you hand pick your examples. A modern house worth more than at least a million will most likely look very appealing. And as you point out there are many examples of good modern art and architecture. Everything old is not good, nor beautiful.
@@cottage3106 You confuse modern with post-modernist. post modernist architecture is ugly by design.
@@cottage3106 well there are modern mansions that are somewhat over detailed and what he is trying to point out is that the architects today pay less attention to detail and btw he did show modern buildings that have unappealing shapes but in general yes not all modern buildings are ugly
singapore is just as good. look at the city hall that was built before singapore was actually an independent country (in fact it is where the british surrendered singapore to the japanese). then look at the marina bay hotel that was built in the early 21st century. both are as beautiful as each other even though the time difference between them is huge.
Idk it's pretty ugly it's not appalling but still.
When I was a sensitive kid, my mood would severely go down the gutter whenever my family visited the city.
Post corona crisis throwing some politicians in to the Colosseum with a couple of bears does sound like an entertaining thing to do.....
What are you talking about? Those shapes are perfectly legit. What minecraft texture pack did you use?
Lol
True
You seem to leave out the economic and demographic incentives that made the horrendous urban dystopias of post WW2 possible.
In other words, "it's complicated".
@@brodriguez11000 Not so much. You can divide it into 3 simple steps.
The war boosted steel and concrete as quick and effective ways of building utilitarian structures for defense. Destroyed nations faced a need for massive reconstruction and a subsequent baby boom requiring the fast building of gargantuan amounts of housing units.
Extreme demand and cheap n quick materials turned the real estate market into a golden goose with ridiculous profit margins leading to a massive industry whose only objective was to pile as many cheap living units as possible and turn every scrap of land into cemented highrises.
Architecture simply responded by catering to the need and the industry embracing the cheap materials and modular construction ideologically. Art tends to follow the contingency and special intetets of the culture that spawns it.
He does this on purpose (video would get shut down, if you catch my drift).
@Aiden Pearce if he said (/(who)\), he could get deplatformed.
Don’t you just loveit 🙃
You could literally put a dog turd in an art museum and today's art wing would love it.
Politicians and bears. Best idea I've ever seen on the net.
Symptom of mass production
and less wealth disparity.
SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!
@@mayankbisht4980 less?
i.imgur.com/oysHHmJ.jpg
mass production is awesome! natural sucks! I hate old houses they are ugly
@@gottagofastest That's truly awful...
I don't hate all modern architecture, i think some people do a very great job, but its undeniable that this trend of ugly shit only became more and more prevalent in the last 30 years.
Wagner Bello the age of ugly shit was like 1940s to 2000s, in the 2010s I believe ugliness decreased a little with beautiful glass and green architecture.
My ex-wife and I owned a beautiful solid red brick house built around 1908. It had large rooms with tall ceilings, ornate fireplaces, many colourful stained glass windows, wooden fretwork and wonderful polished pine floorboards. It was set in a magnificent garden with flowers and several beautiful trees. When my wife decided to leave me, we ended up selling our house to a barbarian who let it run down, stored his rubbish on the front porch and for his final barbaric act demolished that work of art and replaced it with an ugly two story block made of cheap materials and crap design. This dormitory now covered most of the land so all the trees and beautiful gardens were destroyed. This happened 12 years ago and I still cry inside on the rare occasion I happen to walk past where our beautiful old house once stood. I completely understand and agree with what you are saying, Thoughty2.
I wish I could talk about anything the way Thoughty can. Just for 5 minutes. He can make ugly stuff sound fascinating.
Take the Tour Montparnasse, a black, slickly glass-panelled skyscraper, looming over the beautiful Paris cityscape like a giant domino waiting to fall. Parisians hated it so much that the city was subsequently forced to enact an ordinance forbidding any further skyscrapers higher than 36 meters.
They hated the Eiffel Tower back when it was put up
Now it’s the most recognized Symbol of France
damn didnt know that but it makes sense. That thing is hideous.
Build it then ban others.. Sounds about right.
Burn it! 🤮
Take what French people say or like with a pinch of salt my friend. French people don't like anything and they always moan about everything, it's nearly a national sport.
Throwing a couple of politicians in the coliseum with some bears you say? Sounds like a good use of politicians to me lol
That's right and it just works!!
But think of the poor bears! I wouldn't do that to perfectly innocent bears. I wouldn't do that to guilty bears either as it might constitute "cruel and unusual punishment".
Yeah!
This is kind of a tangent. You know when someone rearranged a room you are in often, and how when you first walk into that room you are kind of taken aback, almost in awe of how much the space has changed and how different it looks. I have a theory of why that is so startling to us. It’s bc we evolved and spent most of our time in forests, caves, and rocky outcrops and if one day we ventured into the forest we grew up in and know so well and the trees, rocks, and landmarks were all gone or completely rearranged it would be an almost impossible event, or sign that something catastrophic happened there. It’s that seemingly impossible change to our familiar surroundings that gives us that startled, slightly uneasy feeling when we first walk into a rearranged room.
Architects keep forgetting that beauty is functional.
They know but they need money to survive and they need to design this becuase of what the client wants and also Money. Clients and money is a big factor of how architecture is made.
Video: Curves
Me: "Looks at my crush", Ah yes, CURVES
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Underrated comment 👌
Them curves are sexy 😂
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"If our ancestors wanted us to live in grey boxes, they could have just surrendered to the Germans"...
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LOL well...except the Germans actually hated modern architecture as well and Hitler's plans for Germania represented the complete opposite of modern architecture :P
David you’re onto something there. Stalin was also into grandiose architecture emulating Ancient Greece/Rome. Wonder why...
That day has come when I agree with a Nazi vision of the world. I really hate post modern architecture they're all shit.
But the butt-ugly fascism-era buildings here in Italy stand out like ugly sore thumbs next to (literally) the ageless beauty of the Renaissance palazzos and churches.
Agree , and Hitler BTW expelled Bauhaus school from Germany . Anyway i think Thoughty say''s that only because need to add some "politically correct" remark ...
@Dalton Black We honestly would, the only faults they had were totalitarianism, nd extreme racism. Had Hitler just not been a racist or a dictator, Germany woulda influenced the world
The designer and builder knows he won’t be living in any of them
at one point when its 6.18 minuite he said solitude and made me realise why i loved roaming around skyrim so much, its a world designed to our taste and every scenery has its own meaning.