Fan Zhendong Withdraws from ITTF Competitions: End of an Era

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  • @blueskyinwa
    @blueskyinwa 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Very well said!
    Compliments to Fan Zhendong for being so courageous. WTT needs to rethink its harsh rules and stops treating players like money-making machines.

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fans and table tennis lovers should not support Fan Zengdong and others for their withrawal from ITTF competitions.
      These players receive big money, so they should devote their performance to the public, by participating in prestigious tournaments. In orther works, other people work hardly too.
      The most disapointed result of ITTF is that they allow heavyweight balls making the table tennis sport become bored and short games with less skill game shows. Table tennis tournaments today attract very few spectators and sponsor. All table tennis tournaments are poor and often without spectators. Thus the task of ITTF is to apply new technological lightweight balls but more bounced balls, for example 2.5 grams plastic rubber balls. table tennis.
      How about the trend to attract and even force more famous players to join international tournaments ? It is right trend. Spectators want to watch their stars playing. Sponsors want star players participating. It is normal in sport. Look at football, footballers also oftens overload with busy schedule, but in compensation, they receive big money.

  • @heikoseyer9234
    @heikoseyer9234 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +199

    It is a disgrace for the WTT, ITTF to set up such a system of punishment for non-participation. Even more players should take part in the boycott

    • @ministryofvoiddeckttsgp
      @ministryofvoiddeckttsgp 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      wtt is set up by chinese themselves isnt it ?

    • @abdulrahmanhajiabdulrahim5230
      @abdulrahmanhajiabdulrahim5230 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We support you fan zen dong

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fans and table tennis lovers should not support Fan Zengdong and others for their withrawal from ITTF competitions.
      These players receive big money, so they should devote their performance to the public, by participating in prestigious tournaments. In orther works, other people work hardly too.
      The most disapointed result of ITTF is that they allow heavyweight balls making the table tennis sport become bored and short games with less skill game shows. Table tennis tournaments today attract very few spectators and sponsor. All table tennis tournaments are poor and often without spectators. Thus the task of ITTF is to apply new technological lightweight balls but more bounced balls, for example 2.5 grams plastic rubber balls. table tennis.
      How about the trend to attract and even force more famous players to join international tournaments ? It is right trend. Spectators want to watch their stars playing. Sponsors want star players participating. It is normal in sport. Look at football, footballers also oftens overload with busy schedule, but in compensation, they receive big money.

  • @maxlee8191
    @maxlee8191 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    He is 27. Nothing in the world could prepare me for this. The WTT system needs to change!!!!!

    • @wernerandreeloerts
      @wernerandreeloerts 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we need a new organisationc called ATNF Around the net federation

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fans and table tennis lovers should not support Fan Zengdong and others for their withrawal from ITTF competitions.
      These players receive big money, so they should devote their performance to the public, by participating in prestigious tournaments. In orther works, other people work hardly too.
      The most disapointed result of ITTF is that they allow heavyweight balls making the table tennis sport become bored and short games with less skill game shows. Table tennis tournaments today attract very few spectators and sponsor. All table tennis tournaments are poor and often without spectators. Thus the task of ITTF is to apply new technological lightweight balls but more bounced balls, for example 2.5 grams plastic rubber balls. table tennis.
      How about the trend to attract and even force more famous players to join international tournaments ? It is right trend. Spectators want to watch their stars playing. Sponsors want star players participating. It is normal in sport. Look at football, footballers also oftens overload with busy schedule, but in compensation, they receive big money.

  • @spinsports3459
    @spinsports3459 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    Wirhout FZD table tennis os not complete. We want you back at least another 10 yrs.

  • @andrewcavanagh3946
    @andrewcavanagh3946 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    If the ITTF wants to fine players for not turning up to their tournaments then they should pay them for playing in those tournaments (which they don't...if you don't win any prizemoney you don't get paid).
    Nigerian player Quadri Aruna is currently appealing one of these ridiculous fines in the sports arbitration commission for this reason. He pointed out that he'd love to play every tournament but he simply can't afford to. And he certainly can't afford to take time away from playing in the Bundesliga in Germany (where they do pay him) to fly all over the world and play in ITTF tournaments where they don't pay him.
    The ITTF wants to make more ticket sales so they can make more money for themselves and the hosts of their tournaments. Great! PAY THE PLAYERS TO PLAY.

    • @d4rk577
      @d4rk577 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@andrewcavanagh3946 Never heard of that and it Sounds insane. But understandable if players dont want to participate with this stupid System lol

    • @mrmr1964
      @mrmr1964 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      That sounds like absolute madness ... FZD is currently the BEST player in the world. Yes, he is THE best player. WTT, wake up to yourself so it can be sustainable.
      It should be like pro tennis, where no matter if you win or lose a WTF tournament you are compensated. Even if it just for airfares and accommodation. Notwithstanding this, I actually thought the Chinese Table Tennis Federation covered their costs.

    • @datle2863
      @datle2863 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This new rule is a step back for wTT and ItTf.

    • @olissime01
      @olissime01 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aruna plays in French ProA, not in Bundesliga.

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fans and table tennis lovers should not support Fan Zengdong and others for their withrawal from ITTF competitions.
      These players receive big money, so they should devote their performance to the public, by participating in prestigious tournaments. In orther works, other people work hardly too.
      The most disapointed result of ITTF is that they allow heavyweight balls making the table tennis sport become bored and short games with less skill game shows. Table tennis tournaments today attract very few spectators and sponsor. All table tennis tournaments are poor and often without spectators. Thus the task of ITTF is to apply new technological lightweight balls but more bounced balls, for example 2.5 grams plastic rubber balls. table tennis.
      How about the trend to attract and even force more famous players to join international tournaments ? It is right trend. Spectators want to watch their stars playing. Sponsors want star players participating. It is normal in sport. Look at football, footballers also oftens overload with busy schedule, but in compensation, they receive big money.

  • @shantanuhuddar7040
    @shantanuhuddar7040 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    My favorite player😢😢😢

    • @SamuelEduardoHernandezReyes
      @SamuelEduardoHernandezReyes 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@shantanuhuddar7040 he is my favorite player as well 😭

    • @NL-wu8ru
      @NL-wu8ru 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mine too

    • @佐々木庸光
      @佐々木庸光 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      現在の制度は廃止すべき。選手に
      負担が掛かる為、参加の有無は本人申告制度にすべきで罰金は金儲け主義で選手生命を短命にし故障しても出続けなければ成らない過酷な制度だ、今回のChampionの引退を機会にtop選手達に是非現行のルールを改正する反対運動を起こして欲しいですね~😂選手寿命を長くプレイヤーとし出過ぎには十分留意して下さいませ。😂🎉😁

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fans and table tennis lovers should not support Fan Zengdong and others for their withrawal from ITTF competitions.
      These players receive big money, so they should devote their performance to the public, by participating in prestigious tournaments. In orther works, other people work hardly too.
      The most disapointed result of ITTF is that they allow heavyweight balls making the table tennis sport become bored and short games with less skill game shows. Table tennis tournaments today attract very few spectators and sponsor. All table tennis tournaments are poor and often without spectators. Thus the task of ITTF is to apply new technological lightweight balls but more bounced balls, for example 2.5 grams plastic rubber balls. table tennis.
      How about the trend to attract and even force more famous players to join international tournaments ? It is right trend. Spectators want to watch their stars playing. Sponsors want star players participating. It is normal in sport. Look at football, footballers also oftens overload with busy schedule, but in compensation, they receive big money.

  • @joakimberg692
    @joakimberg692 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    I think this is a good move from FZ. I really like him as a player and love to watch him but I think its more important to speak out loud about the problem, like he just did. Definitely support him.

  • @AnderslindTT
    @AnderslindTT 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    this is so sad :( best of luck to an amazing legend, hope you stay a part of the TT world somehow!

    • @Cecilia1997-r7f
      @Cecilia1997-r7f 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      thank you for speaking up for FZD❤

    • @LetItBe-222
      @LetItBe-222 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, it's really sad. Hope his action will bring changes to the TT world, especially the unfair rules of WTT and the unreasonable ranking system of ITTF.

  • @TableTennisMedia
    @TableTennisMedia 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    If players and influencers, like Bobrow, Pongfinity, TTD and others keep silent about this idiotic system WTT has created, then table tennis is doomed. Paid voices and selfish clowns who care more about selling rubbers than speaking up about actual issues in sport. Imagine the rage from media/fans if NBA would kick LeBron James out of the NBA due to load management... 👎

    • @freddupont9605
      @freddupont9605 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I doubt Adam Bobrow will comment, he's paid by the WTT...

    • @OlavKTTT
      @OlavKTTT 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TableTennisMedia This. The system's broken and the few people that do have a voice, don't dare to speak up at all.

    • @TableTennisMedia
      @TableTennisMedia 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@OlavKTTT Well, soon we will see the true faces of all the "influencers". Do they really love the game and care for its well-being, or they only love all the profits and benefits they get from it. Sadly, the bet would be on the second option...

  • @LetItBe-222
    @LetItBe-222 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I have to say it's such bold move. Fan coud ignore the unfair rules and go along with WTT and CTTA for personal gains. But he chose to speak out with his action. I just hope his sacrifice won't go in vain.

  • @KazTuran
    @KazTuran 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    ♦️Всем теннисистам и фанатам Настольного тенниса необходимо поддержать Фан Джэдунга и бойкотировать турниры Международной федерации настольного тенниса! Единство всех теннисистов должно быть!!!

  • @TheCoolkriss
    @TheCoolkriss 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Fines for not participating, that's ridiculous! Period.
    He set an example, I hope more follow and perhaps changes could be made for 2026.

    • @joll1e
      @joll1e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, just shock to read this and to know that there are ridiculuos rules like fines for not participating. This would not only affected some very top players like FZD but also many other good players that wanna comeback to play again after injuries or other obstacles. This seems unfair as every ranked top players are force to compete otherwise they got this penalties. Every good players that have been retiring from WTT might have faced this penalties rules, and so they choose to retire than to comeback again from the bottom and got the fines

  • @orionmec
    @orionmec 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    If there is an over-reach of the ITTF and WTT then ALL PLAYERS should follow this lead. Without them there is no bureaucratic organization. This would not be good for the sport as a whole but no organization should be able to induce any "punishment" for a person choosing when they compete and when they do not! PERIOD!!!

  • @aldopalacios3357
    @aldopalacios3357 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's really a pity. I hope changes in WTT politics within some time and Fan Zhendong be back.

  • @FaizalSenggono
    @FaizalSenggono 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    So sad to know that Fandz, one of the best players, has withdrawn due to an unfair system.

  • @ricardocarlos1449
    @ricardocarlos1449 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    😮a great shame to see such a great player leave - I hope it compels the authorities to rethink the rules, and think less about money and more on the beauty of the sport and the magic players like Fan Zhendong bring to the game

  • @balaquitania5207
    @balaquitania5207 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Unbelievable! One of the GOATS, a legend of the sport and one of the best ambassadors of the game is forced to retire due to an unfair rule. This TT era will not be as competitive as it should be without the reigning Olympic champion.

  • @Leslie-gc9jf
    @Leslie-gc9jf 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It is ridiculousand unfair. If younger players require more opportunities, they should earn them through merit rather than forcing one of the greatest players, Fan, to step aside. Such actions clearly go against the true spirit of sportsmanship. I hope Fan wins this fight, he is definitely a respectable player.

  • @RK-kq2dt
    @RK-kq2dt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Hope WTT/ITTF will change something to make FZD return. He still is the world's best player currently.

  • @hanter_souls
    @hanter_souls 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Красавчик!!! Настоящий мужчина, а не терпила. Да и уходить надо непобеждённым, а не ждать, пока одряхлеешь и тебя начнут обыгрывать игроки третьего десятка.

  • @khanhui888
    @khanhui888 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I support him 🎉

  • @jbdup
    @jbdup 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The sanction era needs to end!

  • @dusanvolkar3735
    @dusanvolkar3735 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Ma Long, xuperman, Timo Boll, and now FZD. end of an era

    • @m3j
      @m3j 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dusanvolkar3735 wait? Ma Long quit????? I thought he still played. Saw him play last week in the Waldner cup.

    • @Mateus.007
      @Mateus.007 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@m3j It was not a serious tournament. He MAY has not officially retired, so he can appear in some tournaments in this year, lets see.

    • @Basas.Michael
      @Basas.Michael 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm older than these, yet still they all motivate me and I admire all of them.
      Such a loss for the sport.

    • @lingslnothing7377
      @lingslnothing7377 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@m3j老瓦杯是沒有積分,沒有獎金的運動,所以沒有壓力!

  • @mariec7092
    @mariec7092 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    WTT tournaments are too frequent. As a viewer I don't mind watching them much less often but feeling like I am watching players who have a life, and are coming well-prepared and well rested. With the amount of emotion that goes into each tournament, there is no need to challenge each title every few weeks.

  • @0JaneSun0
    @0JaneSun0 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Are there any conflicts inside of CTTA? According to FZD he heard about the rules only recently, while they were there for like 4 years. It smell fishy. Nevertheless a good move to call this out. Unfair rules and system.

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The money fines are updated

  • @koraalber9996
    @koraalber9996 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fan is my favorite player.

  • @Cecilia1997-r7f
    @Cecilia1997-r7f 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I'm so sad for FZD

  • @benthekeeshond545
    @benthekeeshond545 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Mr. Fan is one of my all-time favorite TT players. If he retires because of bad rules or being forced to retire by his coaches, that is wrong. Mr. Fan should be the one who chooses to continue competing, not by outer influences. But being forced to retire by his coaches doesn't sound right. Because none of the Chinese players other than Mr. Fan can represent a sure victory. Why would coaches want to get rid of Mr. Fan?
    After Wang Liqin, Ma Lin, and Wang Hao, the players who anchored the Chinese team were Zhang Jike, the Great Ma Long, and Fan Zhendong. Especially Ma Long and Fan Zhendong. It seems that no challengers could get by either one of them. Ma Long is gone and now Mr. Fan will be out, the Chinese TT Team is at least vulnerable. Non-Chinese players don't have to agonize over losing before the start of a match.

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If a top player plays in many tournaments, he'll be studied by other team coaches and becomes more predictable. Probably this is a reason why China team doesn't want to expose their best player to too many regular tournaments.😉

    • @Mateus.007
      @Mateus.007 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dongiovanni8899 Huh? They have played so many matches (FAn, Ma, Xu, and others).

    • @dualeo27
      @dualeo27 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dongiovanni8899 They already studied over 10 years now but still keep losing to Fan 🤣

    • @karpet-kovrolin-runner
      @karpet-kovrolin-runner 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dongiovanni8899 В Ваших рассуждениях есть истина! Действительно, в современной эпохе любого игрока можно изучить по видеозаписям его встреч. Примерно в 2018 году Ма Лин проиграл российскому игроку среднего уровня (по мировым меркам) из-за своего завершающего удара по диагонали (очень предсказуемого). Соперник хорошо изучил этот удар Ми Линя и просто подставлял ракетку в нужное место, блокируя и отправляя мяч по прямой линии. Он лишил Ма Линя возможности завершать атаку сильным ударом и выиграл встречу.

  • @cvincent0906
    @cvincent0906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Competing in any competition should be a choice not a directive from the organisers. Of course the more one competes the more potential success and points can be accumulated but evaluating when to compete and when to rest should not be subject to any sort of penalties from the organisers. The organisers of sports like table tennis and F1 need to remember that fans care about the treatment of the sportsmen and women that they support. We do not consider them as commodities to be used and abused by the organisers for their own financial and personal gain! Good to see people like you pushing back on so called professional sporting organisations like ITTF and FIA who must be reminded the the sport people make the sport not them!!!

  • @eunhakang3171
    @eunhakang3171 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    What a shame! What a stupid rule that makes one of the greatest players quit! I cannot agree!!

  • @Anaishasworkofart
    @Anaishasworkofart 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    It is the saddest news of 2024.

    • @cuongtkong58
      @cuongtkong58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, the saddest news is that 2025 will be here in a few more days AND I am still here.

  • @freddupont9605
    @freddupont9605 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Ok, I'm shocked, speechless... We lose the current best player (still better than LSD and WCQ). Not seeing him for months after the Olympics was an alert and I was afraid a would retire. Now, we see the result of these fines and pressure on the players.

    • @carlpeterkirkebo2036
      @carlpeterkirkebo2036 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Still better than LSD and WCQ." What is this based on? A single match lately?

    • @freddupont9605
      @freddupont9605 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carlpeterkirkebo2036 Absolutely, taking into account he smashed them whereas he had taken a 3+ month rest after the Olympics. What, you would wreck the three of them? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @chinacansay
      @chinacansay 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @carlpeterkirkebo2036 in last Chinese Table Tennis Super League, Fan Zhendong easily defeated these two players

    • @carlpeterkirkebo2036
      @carlpeterkirkebo2036 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@chinacansay That did not really answer my question although I also know his results from the Chinese Super League.
      I guess you are saying that the claim that FZD is the best is based on these two matches.
      First of all these matches were hardly "easy wins". FZD won two of the sets 12-10 against LSD. If that is called an easy win I wonder what your would call a hard win. Winning a set 24-22?
      Second of all FZD lost 0-3 to Xu Yingbin.
      In short; basing a claim on two matches is not viable statistics.

    • @containternet9290
      @containternet9290 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carlpeterkirkebo2036 I doubt LSD will ever be on FZD level but I do believe WCQ can be, but for now FZD is the best table tennis in the world.

  • @MsVovanez
    @MsVovanez 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He did not retired from ittf, only wtt

  • @abdulrahmanhajiabdulrahim5230
    @abdulrahmanhajiabdulrahim5230 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We support you fan zendong

  • @kevzf
    @kevzf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was planning to go to a WTT in Germany last november until I saw the tickets were 90+ euro.. absolutely stupid prices

  • @楠-u4z
    @楠-u4z 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WTT new rule forced a penalty on athletes for each withdrawing from a tournament. As for Fan ZhenDong, that's $5000 each time if he can't attend it (CTTA decides whether to allow him to join). WTT tournaments are famous for their expensive tickets, small price money, tightly arranged schedule and lack of protection for athletes. Athletes are reduced to tools to make money for WTT, which is Modern Slavery! Fan ZhenDong is fighting agaist injustice at the cost of his career. He stood up to speak out about the unfair treatment & awful experience of all athletes. He still wants to play Ping Pang, but with deserved respect from tournament organizer, not like a gladiator on the colosseum fighting ground.

  • @rsrusli
    @rsrusli 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's so very sad.

  • @wanzg
    @wanzg 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    A top player to ITTF is like a top singer to a Record Company, at the end of the day, they are tools for making money, they don't care if you are tired, sick or injured...

  • @BenniMentor-zt1bh
    @BenniMentor-zt1bh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In comparison to other sports like soccer, tennis, rugby etc, this beautiful game of table tennis does not even feature when it comes to remuneration. Maybe the players who do this for a living will consider playing each and every international event, if the prize monies associated with the sport sees a drastic change for the good.

  • @teddybearasaurus
    @teddybearasaurus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    He can make money in leagues… wtt isnt the only game in town

  • @Strawberrypatches12
    @Strawberrypatches12 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He is one of the best players ❤ Compliments to FZD for his courage and dedication

  • @傻傻地-r1o
    @傻傻地-r1o 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Too bad😢

  • @kae-ej9rd
    @kae-ej9rd 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    내 최애 젠동이 돌려내!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😢👊👊👊
    스포츠를 상업적으로 이용해먹으려는 순간 니들은 끝이야

  • @hasanhadavand7513
    @hasanhadavand7513 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    An unfair rule by ittf and wtt, which caused the two great Olympic champions, Fan Zhendong and Chen Meng, to no longer participate in the competition, and this will definitely damage the attractiveness of the competition and its prestige, in the hope of the return of the great Fan Zhendong, who is always a fan. He has been to international competitions

  • @MemesSpree-z5s
    @MemesSpree-z5s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Are u kidding me , there is actually no way a CHAMPION at his peak now is retiring I got learned about him not for too long I analyze him learn from him and motivated to start training serious watching him , I use his 3rd ball serves , its been barely any hears , even ma long who played 9 more years is retiring at same age this is so doomed, now butterfly will lose money because fzd series will lose lot of money ,

  • @SpringFirework
    @SpringFirework 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very good video

  • @shannontan5893
    @shannontan5893 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    i think it is not that simplistic as it seen to be as the rules are not new and have been established for a rather long time

    • @BenniMentor-zt1bh
      @BenniMentor-zt1bh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not necessarily the rules of the game but the rules in relation to competing and how ranking points is awarded and determined, those rules have been drastically adjusted over the past few years. The issue this now creates is that a player who comes from affluent upbringing can and will compete in all major tournaments to rack up points and as a result of point allocation and the weight certain ITTF and WTT tournaments carry, they can b come the best, not because they are but because they can accumulate enuf points.

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the rules for fines are updated

    • @shannontan5893
      @shannontan5893 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if one thinks the rules are punitive then why only two players being olympic champions, at that no less decided to challenge the rules through very drastic action of resignation . Does not seem logical and rational at all

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shannontan5893 The two olympic champions already achieved their fame and can now earn easy money through commercial and social engagement, brand ambassador, modelling, event management etc🤑 rather than practising for hours and keeping strict diet to prepare for world tournaments🥱.

    • @BenniMentor-zt1bh
      @BenniMentor-zt1bh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @shannontan5893 we're all spectators standing on the sidelines and trying to make sense of things, but it's not fair to state that FZ's actions seems irrational or even too drastic. Firstly, Table Tennis in China has a political motivation that we're not privy to. As individuals we're only accountable to our conscience and our moral deliberation. FZ must have good reason for his decision and to call it drastic or irrational is a bit judgmental. What I will say, is it's a darn shame that we won't witness FZ's undoubtedly unmatched playing on the WTT and ITTF platforms anymore.

  • @dongiovanni8899
    @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Harimoto and LYJ will miss him the most.

  • @佐々木庸光
    @佐々木庸光 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    大会不参加罰金は違法にすべきですね~商業的過ぎで選手に負担掛かるし参加は自由にすべき?しないと第2.3の引退選手が?ittf wtt等各種大会不参加罰金とポイント減は改正すべきだと思う。トッププレイヤーはこのままでは疲労困憊になるが?

  • @Dean_Zhang
    @Dean_Zhang 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “天下苦WTT久矣”,不只是樊振东,外协的许多球员也抱怨过WTT的规则,奖金常常赚不回机票酒店,但又不得不去。希望樊振东的发声,能够为运动员争取到更多的权益。让他们不再是WTT赚钱的工具。

  • @furqanulhaq7250
    @furqanulhaq7250 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Wtt has destroyed table tennis

  • @sugiartotjong4065
    @sugiartotjong4065 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    ITTF push the proffesional player too hard.

  • @top36560
    @top36560 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best decision! Enough is enough

  • @michaelhenry786
    @michaelhenry786 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    WTT's philosophy seems be: 'the sponsors are first, and everyone and anything are a distance second.'
    They care nothing about the players and their well-being, much less the fans. Take for example that ridiculous high camera angle side view that they have implemented, just to show clearer the sponsors' logo, and in the process; they have destroyed the dynamics of sport with that high camera angle, stupidly pointing down on the table.
    Also They have fine Quadri Aruna $5,000, which he has appealed.
    When the most important commodities, the players and fans are not happy, you know something is wrong.

    • @dikaosoune
      @dikaosoune 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👏

  • @salentija
    @salentija 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    😢 Ma Long getting retairing, and Fan Zhendong is a champion, we're losing maybe a biggest TITANS of Ping Pong in history, they'll be missing, it's like MJ in basketball, they've should react abaut this .

  • @arthpingpong
    @arthpingpong 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Publicação do FZD traduzido pro Português:
    Eu me lembro muito bem ❤
    Quando escrevi sobre o Last Dance em maio, já tinha antecipado que Paris poderia ser meus últimos Jogos Olímpicos e que faria tudo para lutar pelo meu país. Depois de completar com sucesso a minha missão olímpica, devido ao enorme esgotamento psicológico que restou do ciclo de Paris, não fiz quaisquer planos específicos para o futuro da minha carreira, exceto a minha participação confirmada nos próximos Jogos Nacionais.
    Recentemente, o WTT divulgou novas regras que impõem multas pela não participação. Os indivíduos não podem pagar, mas ainda respeitam as organizações internacionais, pelo que só podem optar por retirar-se do ranking mundial. De acordo com os requisitos da ITTF e da Associação Chinesa de Tênis de Mesa, um relatório foi apresentado esta semana.
    Ainda sou eu, não vou me aposentar e continuarei trabalhando duro para participar de mais arenas diferentes.
    Nunca pare de perseguir meus sonhos mais loucos🩵
    O tênis de mesa é uma medalha de glória na infância e na juventude, e o amor infinito pelos esportes o preencherá por toda a vida.
    Nunca vou ficar longe do tênis de mesa e muito menos dos esportes.
    É hora de tentar desafiar a gravidade💚

  • @giancarlo8026
    @giancarlo8026 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Uno dei migliori giocatori di tutti i tempi. ci mancherai un abbraccio FZD!!

  • @louiselo4733
    @louiselo4733 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would be interesting if a rival table tennis tournament can be set up like the proposed Unify League in football (previously known as the European Super League).

  • @chrisl211
    @chrisl211 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it also the reason why he and Chen Meng didn't play for the last 6 months?

  • @richigarciacastro
    @richigarciacastro 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So sad, I didn't know this. It happens to many sports. How many complaints have you heard about FIFA and UEFA too?

  • @botao4456
    @botao4456 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Chen meng, Ma Long and now FZD 😢

  • @alfredevaasili4745
    @alfredevaasili4745 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I guess that he will continue to play in the Chinese competitions with other team mates like Xu Xin and many others at any pace he wants where he will be more happier😅.

  • @fortitude1208
    @fortitude1208 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FZD got my full support. Totaly agreed! At least let that players 26+ to choose tournament or if they have injuries

  • @KrazyKanucker
    @KrazyKanucker 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The same conversation is going on in Formula one racing right now. To many races in a year so they can make more money but it puts to much strain on drivers, teams and families.

  • @maxrodrigues6270
    @maxrodrigues6270 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fiquei muito triste quando soube 😢
    Grande perda para o tênis de mesa mundial.

  • @SabenaAnies
    @SabenaAnies 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For the sake of sport, every atlelet should have freedome to chose tournament he want.
    Its a new era of slavery in ping pong, and tennis table assosiate make TT athelete becoming employee.

  • @tabletennischn
    @tabletennischn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FZD just showed how big he is, for a long time lot of people are talking in close circles how WTT is ruining table tennis, last year or so even players started to talk openly, that is confirmation of disaster

  • @NL-wu8ru
    @NL-wu8ru 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree you say that WTT new rules concentrate more of making money than to develop this game. Support Fan Zhendong, he is still in China national team, not retired, only stops WTT machts.

  • @wongkn
    @wongkn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Liu GuoLiang is a senior official in both the WTT and ITTF. I wonder why he didn't protest. Or maybe he wants this ridiculous new fines. The fine is proportional to the world ranking. Top 20 WR players are fines USD5000 for every tournament they skip. And they are required to play in all WTT smash, WTT champions and WTT Grand Contender.
    But that's not the only issue. It is also about the insane timings of the tournaments and how closely spaced they are. For e.g., the Singapore Smash starts on Jan 30th. Chinese New Year, the most important festival for the chinese and which is often the only time one can see their families starts on Jan 29th. That is insane. I was originally thinking of flying down to Singapore to watch the competition but with the stupid timing, not any more ! Then, how many tournaments were in this month ?

    • @hkbrightshadow4225
      @hkbrightshadow4225 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He just wants his sponsored players wcq and sys to win the big tournaments. Liu GuoLiang should be put to jail

    • @wongkn
      @wongkn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hkbrightshadow4225 Some people may not dare say it but as an overseas chinese looking inwards into China, I -will- say it. Liu GuoLiang has gone on record praising his two favourite players but let's make it clear. ShaSha is FAR from being the top players she is hyped up to be. Remember in the recently concluded Asian TT Competition (October 2024), both Chen Meng and Wang ManYu did not compete and ShaSha was entrust to supposedly bring glory for the country but she failed miserably. There, I have said it. Miserably. Firstly she lost matches and failed to retain the womens team title, losing to Japan. Then in the women's single she was completely outclassed by North Korea's Kim Gum Yong, she didn't even make it to the top four !!!! While Wang ChuQin did lead the mens team to their teams title, he himself was bundled out in the men's singles resulting in Lin ShiDong having to take over and eventually ended up runners up. In that competition, China was clear 2nd and took only 2 gold medals, against Japan's 3.
      Even in the Mixed teams championship a short while later, ShaSha was consistently losing games (though not matches) even in the Mixed Doubles with Wang ChuQin. It was really Wang ManYu who more than once led China through with her unbeaten (did not lose a game) record.
      ShaSha is far from being the dominant player she is hyped up to be. Wang ManYu was playing with the handicap of not having a dedicated coach. She only got her dedicated coach during the Mixed Teams championship. So eventhough the talk is how ShaSha is strongest player in the women's team, it remain to be seen and proven, esp when Wang ManYu settles down with her new coach.
      Wang ChuQin is a much better bet eventhough, and by his own admission, he did not perform to expectations since the Paris Olympics. It remains to be seen if he can fend off the challenges of Harimoto, Lin Yun-Ju, and the Lebrun brothers consistenly in the future. Or even against compatriot Lin ShiDong.

  • @kebapgaming
    @kebapgaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He should be coming back in at least local leagues. Also coach pls suggest racket setup under 60 pounds including assembly cost 10 pounds

  • @sergiochantayon7819
    @sergiochantayon7819 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fan Zhendong & Cheng Meng have followed the rules without complaining. I do not think the other players want to boost their rankings in this manner. Soon we might see team and country delegates attempting disqualification of opponents based on some rules. WTT has to figure out how to be fair and keep the level of the game/tournament, at the same time.
    Let's not be "slaves to the written word".

  • @aerotus888
    @aerotus888 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He is protesting the crappy horizontal camera angle!!!

  • @April0712
    @April0712 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Without Fan, Chinese table tennis team has no dominance. Actually it’s very like the Chinese team won’t win Gold when it matters most.

    • @nazar_zen
      @nazar_zen 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lin sidong won't let it happen, he is above any EU player

    • @lighthenrik1172
      @lighthenrik1172 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nazar_zen generally, he certainly is, but as we have seen recently, felix lebrun can beat him, as of that i dont see why china should not dominate the sport, I still consider that wang chuqin, liang, lin, and blub blub are still way beyond european average level, sadly

    • @teddybearasaurus
      @teddybearasaurus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      China is a so deep someone will step up

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      participation in WTT is not a requirement to enter World Cup, World Championships and Olympics. North Korea participates in big competitions only.

  • @schwabvilmos6257
    @schwabvilmos6257 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think he is right. The rules should be equally fair to the players and fans. If someone'd withdraw in the 11th hour without a clear reason then I'd accept the ban. But If the schedules are too demanding or contradicting then it is a good call. I'm highly disappointed,, without him and Sister Chen table tennis is not complete

  • @tomtrana3449
    @tomtrana3449 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    btw Where is the solidarity of the other players, especially the European ones?

  • @harrymike1911
    @harrymike1911 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    An athlete is also human; they may experience injuries, family emergencies, or other personal issues. Why must they attend every competition? They are not gladiators from the Roman era; this is the modern age.

  • @francescorosa1942
    @francescorosa1942 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can he restart to play if the rukes change as he wants?

  • @kingsleynkem9706
    @kingsleynkem9706 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the worst news ever. MY BEST AND PERSONAL NUMBER ONE PLAYER. FAN? LEAVING? WTT IS OBVIOUSLY DOING SOMETHING VERY WRONG. I'M HEARTBROKEN.

  • @matthieu1805
    @matthieu1805 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Does it mean he won't play at the 2025 world championship ?

    • @loisd588
      @loisd588 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly :(

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      he can but since his ranking points is now zero, he has to compete in qualifying draw like North Koreans

    • @loisd588
      @loisd588 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dongiovanni8899 no sense for fzd, but you 're right

  • @TheOlzee
    @TheOlzee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought when they started stopping speed glue and then changing from 22 to 11 and changing the ball they were going to start promoting TT properly but it’s just gone nowhere. Like you said I think they’re just interested and n filling their own pockets NOT promoting the sport to grow
    Good move by fan

  • @ansman5062
    @ansman5062 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it a protest against wtt or against ctta (who determines the tournaments that Chinese players go to)? In any event, this (plus ML retiring) will severely hurt team China. Maybe some other team can win now. But FZD could still play in Olympics just like the North Koreans

  • @Juizhaigou
    @Juizhaigou 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a top 32-player CHOOSES not to participate, eventually he won't be ranked. So, there's no need to fine or impose a penalty with the stigma that he had done something wrong, unsporting, unfair or worse. Encourage participation through incentives (the carrot), not the stick.

  • @eileenleung-w2b
    @eileenleung-w2b 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FZD! The bravest warrior! The best table tennis player!!!!

  • @sauzzlil8843
    @sauzzlil8843 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He not retire!!!

  • @yayanruhyana881
    @yayanruhyana881 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FZD backhand is monster

  • @sackwhacker
    @sackwhacker 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There is a similar protest in the Badminton World Federation (BWF). I hope both federations will reconsider and withdraw these pointless rules!

  • @Moka4all
    @Moka4all 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    All players should go on strike for Fan ,I know I will by not watching ….. ❤Fan Zhendong😢

  • @fynnweiler7660
    @fynnweiler7660 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is an international Comeback possible?

    • @dongiovanni8899
      @dongiovanni8899 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      World Cup, World Championships and Olympics are opened to all countries. Those without ranking like North Korea have to compete in qualifying draw first.

    • @hkbrightshadow4225
      @hkbrightshadow4225 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The cnt coach team wants that and give chances to their sponsored players

  • @danialvec9328
    @danialvec9328 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    btw Chen Meng also retired

  • @8ysuzaen3
    @8ysuzaen3 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    WTT and ITTF should loosen those strict rules, allow more diverse players to join, and introduce the AI camera

  • @султанкулжайчыбек
    @султанкулжайчыбек 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Chinese top players should participate more in ITF tournaments, this is the right thing for everyone.

  • @shigure_puriyuji
    @shigure_puriyuji 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need more waldner cup and less wtt matches

  • @jobbunanga9473
    @jobbunanga9473 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Without Fan Zhendong I have no reason to keep following this table tennis game

  • @evoh3657
    @evoh3657 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fan zhendong & Chen meng has announced they will quit the WTT!

  • @wonghow
    @wonghow 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is so much ridiculous ITTF penalties in the system. More top players should retire early. ITTF thinks the system gives low rank players chance to go up, even top player can't stand this system, they think low rank players can?

  • @brooksherron8242
    @brooksherron8242 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Sad to see this. Amazing player.

  • @halitziyademircioglu5842
    @halitziyademircioglu5842 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There must be something wrong with the rules of ITTF. I really miss him ☹️😞😟. He is❤ one of the best players !❤

  • @user0728-ut5sr
    @user0728-ut5sr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    From WTT’s perspective, if every top player chooses not to participate in WTT matches, it significantly impacts their ability to generate revenue. Without sufficient income, WTT would struggle to support the ecosystem that sustains players, especially those from countries where athletes bear most of the expenses for participating in WTT matches. For these players, the lack of sustainable earnings could hinder their ability to afford training and competition, ultimately reducing the global reach of table tennis. This could put the sport at risk of losing its status in international competitions.
    On the other hand, I think WTT's current rules are too stringent. They should prioritize players’ well-being and health. The sheer number and frequency of competitions are overwhelming. WTT should either reduce the total number of events or allow players to be excused from 30%-50% of the competitions without penalties. Striking a balance between maintaining competitive integrity and safeguarding players’ health is essential for the benefits of both WTT and players.

  • @starlightmusic8414
    @starlightmusic8414 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The truth is, they were forced out by Liu Guoliang. They were unfairly treated by the Chinese National Team. Fan was not given the same spar partners, fitness help, medical help and other resources the few years before the Olympics. Those resources all went to WCQ and SunYS. LGL favoured them since they could give LGL and coaches more Ads revenues. Wang Liqin and the Shanghai team had been the ones giving Fan the resources for now. LGL wanted to retire Fan early. Fan had no intention of doing that. Fan said so in an interview that he is still in his prime. He had no intention of leaving the Table Tennis scene. In that case Fan and Chen M should just play for other countries. Or else their career is over.

    • @nhyuki0701
      @nhyuki0701 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      agreed and very sad, he is so talented, yet being treated like this, so unfair, he is so brave to speak up for the rest of the players, risking his career, so man!
      Respect, hope to see him back on the international games!

  • @paulyi729
    @paulyi729 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FZD is the best, I miss him 😢