I actually see the strategy, doing it the way they did ensures you are never having to reach/climb each other to add anything super high up. But they had smaller, liftable people on their tribe so it’s not like they needed a work around for that issue
I don’t think the strategy of rolling on the barrels was necessarily bad because that team was behind and felt they needed to try something drastic to win.
I can’t remember if the boards had to go with them? But if they could have left the boards behind, and tried it from the beginning, before they were all gassed, it may have worked.
If the boards were allowed to touch the ground, they could have used them as makeshift walking/balance sticks for those who couldn’t roll the barrel themselves.
Idea for a 2.0: In Caramoan there was the challenge where the entire tribe has to ballance on a small plattform above the water. Shamar crouched down on the plattform and said to the girls to climb on top of him. Turns out it was a very stupid idea.
To be fair, the swapped tribes were SO unbalanced. With Eddie, Reynold, Erik, and Malcolm all on the same tribe, it was hard to match with challenges like the snake carrying one.
I have never seen this challenge done where the pairs of people closest in weight each hold hands and throw themselves back at different height levels to give themselves the most possible room. It feels like the easiest way to get it done to me.
Two examples come to mind. In Game Changers with Culpepper "forcing" Debbie to do the balance beam, and of course in Pearl Islands with Michelle being too good at the food eating challenge and accidentally completely throwing her tribes strategy out the window.
That Game Changers moment still makes me annoyed to this day, especially since she still held a grudge later on for what "he" did. You did it to yourself, Debbie, not Culpepper!
@@KryptojackJr In fairness, I do think that challenge was intentional cut in such a way to make Debbie look bad. She did claim her competitor was doing just as poorly as she was, and they never did really cut over to show how the other team was doing.
To be fair to Ulong, the thing that cost them that challenge was the fact that they didn't know how to row. They were no more than 15 seconds behind Koror when they got to the boat, but then got completely blown out of the water from there. So even if they took nothing right away like Stephenie said they still would have lost.
Erik and Frosti perfectly controlling the balls in drum roll while Courtney and Amanda just walk next to them doing nothing was a great strategy. It is funny that Courtney manage to sit out another challenge while technically still being in it.
To be fair to the team losing that barrel challenge, they were behind when the race approached the end. That's the right time to gamble on a new strategy if the old one was the one that put you behind. Sadly, it just wasn't a good strategy.
Damn that barrel bounce challenge seems pretty unique and it wouldn't be out of place is any other season. Why don't they bring that back? Would really help with how samey challenges have been getting.
What about that one time in an OG season when the tribe knew they were going into a disgusting food challenge and one of the women came up with the idea of herself acting like she couldn’t do well, but then completely abandoning the plan and ultimately having them lose because of it
I was wondering with the amount of challenge hack videos you did, would they ever be a video of people making challenges worse for themselves. Can't wait to see more of this
Peter from kaoh rong actually was the last person to ever see my grandmother. He tried to perform life saving surgery on her, and unfortunately it was to no success. But he was a great guy.
Can’t forget Survivor: Caramoan when the tribes raced around in a circle, each carrying 20lb weights. Gotta love when Phillip decided to take the lead and then had to keep stopping.
Another anti-hack in 43 where Ryan tried to use his head to steady the pole with the ball on top. All that did was put him in a position where he had his pole tilted
For last hack when you said Ulong, I wasn’t sure which challenge we’re talking about because there’s so many examples 😆 I thought you would talk about the knot challenge that James screwed up by tying one massive knot
For a 2.0 In Survivor Gabon, the episode 2 (Day 7) reward challenge was a repeat of Kicking and Screaming. Ace put Paloma on the pole. Paloma, the smallest member of the cast, was easily overpowered by Crystal and Randy freaking Bailey, costing Kota the reward challenge and Paloma her game later in the same episode. Hilariously, Ace also lost his round, yet somehow the possibly British real life super villain/Wardog 1.0 somehow managed to avoid any blame. Yes there is also James Miller's super knot, but everyone will think of that for a challenge anti-hack instead of the Kota self-forfeit of round 2 of Kicking and Screaming.
one that came to mine was janine in champions v contenders 2. when they go under that beam on the floor in the sand, she suggests they go through sideways, it didn’t work and the whole situation was quite comedic considering how fast a member of the other team got through the plank.
Well, that's a legitimate strategy. You get dizzy because the fluid in your ears continues to spin after you do, so spinning in the opposite direction, if done right, will counteract that force.
I have a idea: rotate the blocks 45° at a time. That adds stability. Then put the base not center, but base its location on the wind, and where it will be.
Cao Boi clips always get me. I wish he would have been a bigger Survivor character. He was like Coach before Coach was a thing. Even his name is fitting.
I think stacking the small blocks first could have been a hack if they had managed to balance it. It was a risky strategy but I don't think it was stupid
Nah. It was stupid because they had to continually move it up as they put bigger blocks into the middle (more time balancing/moving = more chances to lose balance). Stack the big blocks first. That should've been easy enough. Then stack the small blocks separately then move/balance it on top of the big block stack.
@@tjslam26 No, you stack both separately and set the smaller ones on top of the bigger ones. It keeps you from having to climb on each other, which is a lot risker and has a lot more mechanical requirements to get right.
y'know in the water bucket challenge, it might have been smarter to be a little more careful when pouring the water into the empty bucket. it looked like half of the water they managed to save got dumped into the sand because they were just trying to pour out the water as fast as they could instead of trying to get as much as they could into the bucket with less amount of trips back and forth.
How about the pizza reward in DvG? Someone on the purple team (Davie IIRC) tried to stack three bags on one hand, but then the stack collapsed, causing his team to immediately lose.
For the second one there was another poor choice as one of the women kept plugging the holes that were higher on the bucket and leaving lower holes unplugged.
Rob Cesternino has talked about how for the auction in the Amazon they all conspired beforehand to not bid against each other very much if it seemed like someone really wanted something. That way they would all get to eat without having to spend much money. He said when they started doing it Jeff caught on very quickly, got pissed and threatened to start covering every item. Also in Winners at War in the challenge where Adam almost couldn't get the key, he said in an interview that Sele put all of the smallest people in the boat because they would be the lightest and easiest for the swimmers to pull behind them. It of course then backfired because they didn't realize none of them would be able to reach the key. I know they ended up winning but that strategy almost cost them the challenge.
@@tjslam26 Oh yeah not saying they're physically incompetent, the keys were just farther out of reach than they realized and I think you just had to be a little taller to easily reach them. But yeah Adam talked about it on his RHAP deep dive
The block stacking isn't so much choosing a poor option as it is not realizing there is another option. They looked at the size of the tower and said, "That's taller than I can reach, so I gotta build the top before it gets out of reach." While the other team asked how they could get a higher position to build from.
Idk if it counts, but chapera sitting Rob out of that blindfold puzzle challenge while putting big Tom and sue in, should be considered for something. Maybe "worst sit outs" or something like that?
Great to see these! The editing in this video seems pretty redundant. We see the exact same clips multiple times, first with Peridiam VO, then again with the original audio. Felt like these could have been integrated better, but the video would be less than 10 minutes though 🤫
That’s how it always is when talking about a specific part of an episode. There’s only so much footage to use and I have to avoid copyright claims so it gets tricky.
"Just as there are good ideas, there are lots of other things to consider, too" Is this a Darrah Pearl Islands reference? "Jon's a snake yeah, and he lies, but he also tells the truth, too"
one for a future video can be Rob in episode 2 of Winners at War trying to sort the puzzle pieces before putting them up which only gave Dakal a bigger lead
Gotta be more Ulong anti-hacks. James’ knots, but also Bobby Jon stuffing his face with balut instead of eating them one at a time. So gross and so foolish 😅
All Stars had that shelter challenge where somehow Rupert's tribe didn't think to stop him from digging DOWN on a beach! No duh they ended up hitting water!
Oh no poor Jerri REALLY tried to stop him. Rupert wouldn't take no for an answer and was being a real dick about it. Ethan knew it was a bad idea as well but didn't want to speak up because he was on the bottom.
I forgot which season it was, but there was a girl who told their tribe to dig horizontally below the log obstacle, instead of vertically.. and they lost bad lol.
I'm kinda surprised no one tried barrel rolling at their first strategy. Then again, I don't think I'd be really good at any of the challenges in Survivor.
Wait I am confused for a second. I'm not looking at video of the challenge but if ulong didn't screw up the canoe ride could they have won. In which case they would have had food and water. I mean taking firemen nothing to koror they lost a flint right after that challenge. Now imagine they didn't mess up the boat ride and won oolong has all this food and they don't go on there losing streak.
I suggest Survivor Gabon and challenge called Hot Pursuit in Episode 5, when Fang take the big snake in early stage of challenge only for Ace and Matty to drag
Being fair, Fang was significantly weaker than Kota, and we've only seen that work against tribes in that challenge. Fang stood no chance unless Crystal managed to magically gain the strength of 100 Crystals.
I don't really consider the drum challenge an "anti-hack." I feel like it was just a challenge they couldn't work together well in. And most of them weren't great at bouncing the ball in the first place.
Idk I mean the barrel one isn't exactly a genius plan.. but they were already behind and that is literally the ONLY way they could possibly have caught up and won so it's better than nothing
Looking at the Kaoh-Rong footage I feel like the problem was less the so called anti-hack and more the fact that they weren't willing to have one player (more specifically Scott) lift another to balance the top of the stack.
Peridiam: Happy Holidays to you. You do such a nice job. I have an idea: Doomsday scenario- Player A votes for Player B. Player B votes for Player C. Player C votes for Player D. Player D votes for Player A. Player E & Player F lose their votes due to a trip to the Summit conjoining with a Beware Advantage. All 6 players are in the same tribe. The tribe votes as such in Tribal council. Since not all of the players are tied, you do have a revote. It is just an empty revote. It is this Tribe's first Tribal Council. This is similar to the empty votes we saw in "Winner at War" & "Cambodia"; as opposed to no revote or vote: this is backed up by what we saw when Ulong had a 2-person Tribe, and when Circe was eliminated by default in "Game Changers". What happens here? To clarify, both players abstaining are not immune. And since it is a Tribe's first Council, former votes against may not be applied. *Plan A* My opinion is they would leave the two abstaining as not immune, and not voting. The votes are considered as 1-1-1-1; with 0 votes in the revote. The bottom two players in the Immunity challenge have their votes count against them. The top two finishers have their votes against nullified. Since the revote already technically occured, you would simply have a verbal discussion involving the two immune contestants. A lack of consensus results in the tied players becoming immune. Since all of the original tied were deadlocked, the punishment would be instead a new council. The four original voters keep immunity. This immunity comes at the cost of power. The voting members of the other Tribes would be forced into a _second ballot_ to avoid undue punishment. A tie means a fire challenge. *PLAN B* Any abstaining players who is not immune in the Council of the empty tiebreaker revote must plea their case to the the other Tribes' members. They do this isolated from the deadlocked members. Each vote for immunity is separate. If all players abstaining from the original vote are gifted immunity by the other Tribes: the other Tribes must vote under Final Council rules whom to be eliminated. If only a portion of the abstain become immune, those who do not enter a rock draw with the other not immune who did abstain (assuming it is not a default target). The loser of this rock draw faces a preselected person from the original deadlocked group. This person in chosen by the winner of an emergency immunity challenge involving all of the tied d players. The chosen player and the loser of the rock draw face off in a fire challenge. All other players become immune for that council, by default of need. If all abstains are granted immunity, a second vote occurs between the members of the other Tribes under the rules for Final Tribal Council. Usual tiebreakers resume from there. *Theory C* The not immune players who abstained; were as such, simply vulnerable to bring voted against. Since a 1-1-1-1 tie could be considered a hack through public knowledge, it would be a simple rock draw between the abstaining who were not immune. *Plan D* As to avoid collusion, but balance the need for "earning immunity"; those not immune play for immunity in a challenge where they must beat a standard set by the house. This could be solving a puzzle in a certain time, or lasting a certain time in an endurance challenge. Succeed, immune. Fail, still vulnerable. *Plan E* A tiebreaker challenge between the not immune abstaining - as technically such a challenge could be considered a unanimous decision to avoid the possibility of a Deadlock between two predetermined targets- even if such targets; or the colluding involved was unintentional. You would not have all six do a tiebreaker. Not all six were tied. *Plan F* Make the two abstains immune by default (unlikely, but still applicable). The other Tribes vote *Plan G* For purposes of placement, the abstains are not immune, as they could finish lower if they were ejected. The four tied take part in a challenge. The winner chooses one of the other three to be eliminated. *Plan H* Plan G, but the person selected gets to choose a not immune abstain to enter into a revote between the other Tribes. All other Tribes become immune. A fire challenge is unlikely, as this could cause an unintentional voluntarily reward. Here it is at least a result of a fair game procedure. *Plan I* The members of the other Tribes vote as to whether vote between those who are tied, and those who abstained who are not immune. The other Tribes then if necessary cast their vote. The abstains would remain not immune. They would either be the voting target, or eligible for the rock draw. Unlike a 3-3-3-3 into a 3-3-1-1; the entire Tribe has lost it's eligibility to revote. *Plan J* The other Tribes revote between the tied, but each vote is immediately cast in secret. The two players who abstained remain not immune for purposes of a rock draw. *Plan K* The most recent season winner not competing in the current season shall break the tie. *Plan L* Exclude Extra Votes & Stolen Votes *Plan M* Postpone voting sentences and immunities that come with them. *Plan N* The tied members have to discuss and decide on one of the not tied targets.
@@bwburke94 *Plan O* The lack of immunity simply means they are prone to votes. The abstaining players are untied. Only the tied players take part in a tiebreaker challenge.
I think the small blocks vs the big block could have been better -- if it had worked out they wouldnt have to get on top of each other or climb on each other
Yup, their mistake was to lift and wedge from the middle. If they all squat down and lift only 1 block from the bottom big blocks and have Scott "hold" the top part, it might go better. It's much more stable when you can lift in a position that requires you to move your body so little upwards and the person wedging the block don't have to tip toe or lean against the bottom blocks to get leverage like Peter was trying to do. They start to lose balance on the top blocks because everyone was tiptoeing trying to reach the ever growing middle blocks.
Honorable mention: Rob sorting the dragon puzzle by color first while other teams were already started in S40 that costed his team crucial time and they lost because of that
The stacking small blocks first strategy was just the tribe overthinking the idea that they had to stack blocks by someone standing on someone else’s shoulders. But yeah, pretty terrible.
When Jeff says "interesting strategy" you know you made the wrong desicion 😂
If there was ever a point to insert the "That's a bold strategy" meme into the show, that would be it.
@@kevwwong so true!
Ah yes, the good old "building a tower from the midpoint" strategy. What could possibly koah rong?
Heat stroke? Infections? Bowel blockage? I doubt. Probably nothing really
I actually see the strategy, doing it the way they did ensures you are never having to reach/climb each other to add anything super high up. But they had smaller, liftable people on their tribe so it’s not like they needed a work around for that issue
@@glizzysmelliott3274 oh yeah, done well... it would have been great. Too bad they didn't lol
@@glizzysmelliott3274 Yeah my thoughts as well. Lifting someone you risk them falling into the tower
It's a valid strategy. If you are doing it alone.
I don’t think the strategy of rolling on the barrels was necessarily bad because that team was behind and felt they needed to try something drastic to win.
I can’t remember if the boards had to go with them? But if they could have left the boards behind, and tried it from the beginning, before they were all gassed, it may have worked.
If the boards were allowed to touch the ground, they could have used them as makeshift walking/balance sticks for those who couldn’t roll the barrel themselves.
@@The93Vector nope, *only* the barrels where allowed to touch the sand.
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Idea for a 2.0: In Caramoan there was the challenge where the entire tribe has to ballance on a small plattform above the water. Shamar crouched down on the plattform and said to the girls to climb on top of him. Turns out it was a very stupid idea.
Also from Caramoan, the one where the tribes had to catch each other in the water while carrying heavy bags. Philip's tribe just... walked.
To be fair, the swapped tribes were SO unbalanced. With Eddie, Reynold, Erik, and Malcolm all on the same tribe, it was hard to match with challenges like the snake carrying one.
I thought they won that challenge? At least that's what Shamar thought.
I have never seen this challenge done where the pairs of people closest in weight each hold hands and throw themselves back at different height levels to give themselves the most possible room. It feels like the easiest way to get it done to me.
I don't think that was that bad of an idea, they almost won the challenge.
Two examples come to mind. In Game Changers with Culpepper "forcing" Debbie to do the balance beam, and of course in Pearl Islands with Michelle being too good at the food eating challenge and accidentally completely throwing her tribes strategy out the window.
That Game Changers moment still makes me annoyed to this day, especially since she still held a grudge later on for what "he" did. You did it to yourself, Debbie, not Culpepper!
@@KryptojackJr In fairness, I do think that challenge was intentional cut in such a way to make Debbie look bad. She did claim her competitor was doing just as poorly as she was, and they never did really cut over to show how the other team was doing.
Michelle letting pride get in the way of that win is one of the most infuriating "this one person ruined it for everyone" challenges ever
@@BlackandBluePianosShe got voted out the same day so at least she got her karma lol
To be fair to Ulong, the thing that cost them that challenge was the fact that they didn't know how to row. They were no more than 15 seconds behind Koror when they got to the boat, but then got completely blown out of the water from there. So even if they took nothing right away like Stephenie said they still would have lost.
If they took nothing they would have had more time though
Erik and Frosti perfectly controlling the balls in drum roll while Courtney and Amanda just walk next to them doing nothing was a great strategy. It is funny that Courtney manage to sit out another challenge while technically still being in it.
Ulong is so historically bad that when I saw them get the number one spot, I thought for sure it would be for James’ super knot.
I think we all thought that. 😂
I think Peridiam is saving that for his Anti-Hacks 2.0 video (otherwise you would have a whole top 5 list of Ulong anti-hacking alone).
To be fair to the team losing that barrel challenge, they were behind when the race approached the end. That's the right time to gamble on a new strategy if the old one was the one that put you behind. Sadly, it just wasn't a good strategy.
For part 2...Rupert is a fantastic shelter builder.
In EoE we saw Lesu/Manu perfect the anti-hack: keep putting Wardog in the "hero" position.
Amen lol
He was so bad everyone(audience) thought he was faking it to decrease his threat level, turns out he is just really bad, lol.
Damn that barrel bounce challenge seems pretty unique and it wouldn't be out of place is any other season. Why don't they bring that back? Would really help with how samey challenges have been getting.
Yeah! I’d love to see it in new era, especially now that they’re bringing back a lot of old challenges.
Yes! Drum bouncing challenge for 47 please
“Ulong is trying to find another island” is one of the most memorable quotes from this show to me
What about that one time in an OG season when the tribe knew they were going into a disgusting food challenge and one of the women came up with the idea of herself acting like she couldn’t do well, but then completely abandoning the plan and ultimately having them lose because of it
pearl islands michelle!!
I was wondering with the amount of challenge hack videos you did, would they ever be a video of people making challenges worse for themselves. Can't wait to see more of this
Queen of Anti Hacks: "Albert! Drop your stack and pick up my pieces!"
True! “IM GOING TO BEAT YOU ANYWAYS!!”
Peter from kaoh rong actually was the last person to ever see my grandmother. He tried to perform life saving surgery on her, and unfortunately it was to no success. But he was a great guy.
I was expecting Rupert's strategy of digging a hole into the sand to build a shelter to be #1 on this list. Maybe next video.
Can’t forget Survivor: Caramoan when the tribes raced around in a circle, each carrying 20lb weights. Gotta love when Phillip decided to take the lead and then had to keep stopping.
"Ulong looking for another island 🏝️" 😂😂😂😂😂
i remember in s40 when rob wanted to build the puzzle by rearranging the colors or something, it was the round that ethan went
Danni goes... Its dragon puzzle. Rob solved that puzzle with Denise. In round when Ethan go.. He solved tree puzzle with Michele😅.
Another anti-hack in 43 where Ryan tried to use his head to steady the pole with the ball on top. All that did was put him in a position where he had his pole tilted
For last hack when you said Ulong, I wasn’t sure which challenge we’re talking about because there’s so many examples 😆 I thought you would talk about the knot challenge that James screwed up by tying one massive knot
oh shit, poor joe D:
i assume those blocks are probably solid wood, so that must have really hurt.
For a 2.0
In Survivor Gabon, the episode 2 (Day 7) reward challenge was a repeat of Kicking and Screaming. Ace put Paloma on the pole. Paloma, the smallest member of the cast, was easily overpowered by Crystal and Randy freaking Bailey, costing Kota the reward challenge and Paloma her game later in the same episode.
Hilariously, Ace also lost his round, yet somehow the possibly British real life super villain/Wardog 1.0 somehow managed to avoid any blame.
Yes there is also James Miller's super knot, but everyone will think of that for a challenge anti-hack instead of the Kota self-forfeit of round 2 of Kicking and Screaming.
It's been awhile but didn't Ace purposely put Paloma on the pole to make her look bad?
rupert building the house in the ground on season 8????
yesss! at pointed at the ocean at that. like that wouldn’t be a recipe for disaster…
one that came to mine was janine in champions v contenders 2. when they go under that beam on the floor in the sand, she suggests they go through sideways, it didn’t work and the whole situation was quite comedic considering how fast a member of the other team got through the plank.
I thought for sure we were getting Tony’s “just slide everything as fast as you can” slide puzzle strategy from Cagayan.
actually if you don't know how to do slide puzzles, that's the best thing you can do, Austin did the same thing in season 45 and he won that challenge
S42, Maryanne spinning the opposite direction in an attempt to undizzy herself. It’s just a little thing that makes me chuckle
I saw the optimum strategy for the drum challenge
That actually helped her un-dizzy herself. It's physics of ear fluid balance.
Well, that's a legitimate strategy. You get dizzy because the fluid in your ears continues to spin after you do, so spinning in the opposite direction, if done right, will counteract that force.
Anti hack: Troyzan in the memory challenge instantly pulling the lever and closing the curtain to the solution.
Edit: he lost to Kat
I'm so excited for this next series of survivor videos; this will be a very amusing watch!
I have a idea: rotate the blocks 45° at a time. That adds stability. Then put the base not center, but base its location on the wind, and where it will be.
Cao Boi clips always get me. I wish he would have been a bigger Survivor character. He was like Coach before Coach was a thing. Even his name is fitting.
nah he had good ideas and was in on the joke …unlike coach
I think stacking the small blocks first could have been a hack if they had managed to balance it. It was a risky strategy but I don't think it was stupid
Nah. It was stupid because they had to continually move it up as they put bigger blocks into the middle (more time balancing/moving = more chances to lose balance). Stack the big blocks first. That should've been easy enough. Then stack the small blocks separately then move/balance it on top of the big block stack.
@@tjslam26 No, you stack both separately and set the smaller ones on top of the bigger ones. It keeps you from having to climb on each other, which is a lot risker and has a lot more mechanical requirements to get right.
@@15thobserver what makes you think that's not what I said?
y'know in the water bucket challenge, it might have been smarter to be a little more careful when pouring the water into the empty bucket. it looked like half of the water they managed to save got dumped into the sand because they were just trying to pour out the water as fast as they could instead of trying to get as much as they could into the bucket with less amount of trips back and forth.
I would have lined the bucket with tshirts or sm
How about the pizza reward in DvG? Someone on the purple team (Davie IIRC) tried to stack three bags on one hand, but then the stack collapsed, causing his team to immediately lose.
It was Dan actually, and that really made people mad at how cocky he was, contributing to his downfall.
Oolong didn’t even take the flint 😂😂😂😂
Anti-hack: Everything the original Brains tribe did before they split
For the second one there was another poor choice as one of the women kept plugging the holes that were higher on the bucket and leaving lower holes unplugged.
God damn it. Debbie is a gymnast and you can't prove otherwise.
Rob Cesternino has talked about how for the auction in the Amazon they all conspired beforehand to not bid against each other very much if it seemed like someone really wanted something. That way they would all get to eat without having to spend much money. He said when they started doing it Jeff caught on very quickly, got pissed and threatened to start covering every item.
Also in Winners at War in the challenge where Adam almost couldn't get the key, he said in an interview that Sele put all of the smallest people in the boat because they would be the lightest and easiest for the swimmers to pull behind them. It of course then backfired because they didn't realize none of them would be able to reach the key. I know they ended up winning but that strategy almost cost them the challenge.
TBF to WAW Sele... I don't think it's readily apparent that Adam or Parvati couldn't reach those keys. It's not like they were physically incompetent.
@@tjslam26 Oh yeah not saying they're physically incompetent, the keys were just farther out of reach than they realized and I think you just had to be a little taller to easily reach them. But yeah Adam talked about it on his RHAP deep dive
The block stacking isn't so much choosing a poor option as it is not realizing there is another option. They looked at the size of the tower and said, "That's taller than I can reach, so I gotta build the top before it gets out of reach." While the other team asked how they could get a higher position to build from.
"She can keep up the rear and plug those holes. I mean, what's the downside?" - Peridiam 2022
How tf did yellow team lose a "build tall tower" challenge with one of the taller players in survivor history on their team?
i like how jeff just has to say "interesting strategy" all the time
A+ series intro, can't wait for the next five.
"the creative strategy of playing by the rules of opposite world " took me OUT
Ulong's first bad decision was not picking Wanda for their tribe.
Idk if it counts, but chapera sitting Rob out of that blindfold puzzle challenge while putting big Tom and sue in, should be considered for something. Maybe "worst sit outs" or something like that?
Great to see these! The editing in this video seems pretty redundant. We see the exact same clips multiple times, first with Peridiam VO, then again with the original audio. Felt like these could have been integrated better, but the video would be less than 10 minutes though 🤫
That’s how it always is when talking about a specific part of an episode. There’s only so much footage to use and I have to avoid copyright claims so it gets tricky.
@@Peridiam Fair enough with the limited footage for each highlight and CC claims. Thanks for the reply.
Nice, the opposite of the challenge hacking series! Watch us get a 10.0 in about a year 😂
"Just as there are good ideas, there are lots of other things to consider, too"
Is this a Darrah Pearl Islands reference?
"Jon's a snake yeah, and he lies, but he also tells the truth, too"
Not to mention on the stacking blocks that Scot Pollard is SEVEN FEET TALL!
Thank you for posting the video. There are bunch of anti hacking in "Survivor."
The Rupert Shelter
one for a future video can be Rob in episode 2 of Winners at War trying to sort the puzzle pieces before putting them up which only gave Dakal a bigger lead
Not surprised that two came from the group of geniuses that was the worlds apart cast lol
Such a sassy creator! Love it. Call em like you see ‘em!!
The first one that comes to mind for me is Tony is WaW doing the final 4 simmotion challenge from his knees
On that last one I wouldn't so much call it an anti-hack as a dumb decision... following an even dumber lack of a decision.
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The idea is you don't need to build in the air while trying to balance yourself but you build on the ground and lift it up.
I just finished the worlds apart season and Clicked on this vid just to make sure the bucket-with-holes challenge was on here lmao
Johnny Bananas and Nany from thjs season of The Challenge tried to do the same thing with the barrels but weren’t standing up
Gotta be more Ulong anti-hacks. James’ knots, but also Bobby Jon stuffing his face with balut instead of eating them one at a time. So gross and so foolish 😅
Best anti hack is having jatiya on your tribe
All Stars had that shelter challenge where somehow Rupert's tribe didn't think to stop him from digging DOWN on a beach! No duh they ended up hitting water!
Oh no poor Jerri REALLY tried to stop him. Rupert wouldn't take no for an answer and was being a real dick about it. Ethan knew it was a bad idea as well but didn't want to speak up because he was on the bottom.
@@alexsmalley9993 Still a total anti-hack that no one ELSE thought to step in
This was a great video idea! Thank you
Tbf some aren’t dumb ideas just ones that didn’t work like intended like the water plug one
When you said Palau I thought it was going to James’s super knot….
I've never watched an episode of survivor as far as I can remember. Maybe one or two the first season? But I love watching these videos.
I forgot which season it was, but there was a girl who told their tribe to dig horizontally below the log obstacle, instead of vertically.. and they lost bad lol.
I think that was Janine on Australian Survivor.
Another Ulong moment comes to mind: James’ one single impenetrable knot.
I mean for the barrel one that was less of an anti hack and more of a Hail Mary
Ulong is looking for another island!
3:42 forget plugging the holes, how about aiming the pour
Matty not dropping the ball
I'm kinda surprised no one tried barrel rolling at their first strategy. Then again, I don't think I'd be really good at any of the challenges in Survivor.
6:53 also shouldnt hold the drum high up, makes it harder to control
Wait I am confused for a second. I'm not looking at video of the challenge but if ulong didn't screw up the canoe ride could they have won. In which case they would have had food and water. I mean taking firemen nothing to koror they lost a flint right after that challenge. Now imagine they didn't mess up the boat ride and won oolong has all this food and they don't go on there losing streak.
I suggest Survivor Gabon and challenge called Hot Pursuit in Episode 5, when Fang take the big snake in early stage of challenge only for Ace and Matty to drag
Being fair, Fang was significantly weaker than Kota, and we've only seen that work against tribes in that challenge. Fang stood no chance unless Crystal managed to magically gain the strength of 100 Crystals.
I don't really consider the drum challenge an "anti-hack." I feel like it was just a challenge they couldn't work together well in. And most of them weren't great at bouncing the ball in the first place.
Idk I mean the barrel one isn't exactly a genius plan.. but they were already behind and that is literally the ONLY way they could possibly have caught up and won so it's better than nothing
In that second challenge, why wouldn't you use your buffs to plug the holes?
what about shane powers "pouring down the wrong hole like a MORON" at final 5 immunity?
Could Joe have been doing that because of her hearing aid? In case it would get damaged by the water maybe???
Looking at the Kaoh-Rong footage I feel like the problem was less the so called anti-hack and more the fact that they weren't willing to have one player (more specifically Scott) lift another to balance the top of the stack.
k so we have another one from palau. james and his toga/kilt on the challenge where they tied up i wanna say the opposing tribe's flag in some knots.
Would willingly stepping down from a challenge for no tangible reward count as an anti-hack?
More of a calculated risk than an anti-hack, I think.
Peridiam: Happy Holidays to you. You do such a nice job. I have an idea:
Doomsday scenario-
Player A votes for Player B. Player B votes for Player C. Player C votes for Player D. Player D votes for Player A.
Player E & Player F lose their votes due to a trip to the Summit conjoining with a Beware Advantage. All 6 players are in the same tribe.
The tribe votes as such in Tribal council. Since not all of the players are tied, you do have a revote. It is just an empty revote. It is this Tribe's first Tribal Council.
This is similar to the empty votes we saw in "Winner at War" & "Cambodia"; as opposed to no revote or vote: this is backed up by what we saw when Ulong had a 2-person Tribe, and when Circe was eliminated by default in "Game Changers".
What happens here? To clarify, both players abstaining are not immune. And since it is a Tribe's first Council, former votes against may not be applied.
*Plan A*
My opinion is they would leave the two abstaining as not immune, and not voting. The votes are considered as 1-1-1-1; with 0 votes in the revote.
The bottom two players in the Immunity challenge have their votes count against them. The top two finishers have their votes against nullified.
Since the revote already technically occured, you would simply have a verbal discussion involving the two immune contestants. A lack of consensus results in the tied players becoming immune.
Since all of the original tied were deadlocked, the punishment would be instead a new council. The four original voters keep immunity.
This immunity comes at the cost of power. The voting members of the other Tribes would be forced into a _second ballot_ to avoid undue punishment. A tie means a fire challenge.
*PLAN B*
Any abstaining players who is not immune in the Council of the empty tiebreaker revote must plea their case to the the other Tribes' members. They do this isolated from the deadlocked members.
Each vote for immunity is separate. If all players abstaining from the original vote are gifted immunity by the other Tribes: the other Tribes must vote under Final Council rules whom to be eliminated.
If only a portion of the abstain become immune, those who do not enter a rock draw with the other not immune who did abstain (assuming it is not a default target). The loser of this rock draw faces a preselected person from the original deadlocked group.
This person in chosen by the winner of an emergency immunity challenge involving all of the tied d players. The chosen player and the loser of the rock draw face off in a fire challenge. All other players become immune for that council, by default of need.
If all abstains are granted immunity, a second vote occurs between the members of the other Tribes under the rules for Final Tribal Council. Usual tiebreakers resume from there.
*Theory C*
The not immune players who abstained; were as such, simply vulnerable to bring voted against. Since a 1-1-1-1 tie could be considered a hack through public knowledge, it would be a simple rock draw between the abstaining who were not immune.
*Plan D*
As to avoid collusion, but balance the need for "earning immunity"; those not immune play for immunity in a challenge where they must beat a standard set by the house. This could be solving a puzzle in a certain time, or lasting a certain time in an endurance challenge.
Succeed, immune. Fail, still vulnerable.
*Plan E*
A tiebreaker challenge between the not immune abstaining - as technically such a challenge could be considered a unanimous decision to avoid the possibility of a Deadlock between two predetermined targets- even if such targets; or the colluding involved was unintentional.
You would not have all six do a tiebreaker. Not all six were tied.
*Plan F*
Make the two abstains immune by default (unlikely, but still applicable). The other Tribes vote
*Plan G*
For purposes of placement, the abstains are not immune, as they could finish lower if they were ejected. The four tied take part in a challenge.
The winner chooses one of the other three to be eliminated.
*Plan H*
Plan G, but the person selected gets to choose a not immune abstain to enter into a revote between the other Tribes. All other Tribes become immune.
A fire challenge is unlikely, as this could cause an unintentional voluntarily reward. Here it is at least a result of a fair game procedure.
*Plan I*
The members of the other Tribes vote as to whether vote between those who are tied, and those who abstained who are not immune. The other Tribes then if necessary cast their vote.
The abstains would remain not immune. They would either be the voting target, or eligible for the rock draw. Unlike a 3-3-3-3 into a 3-3-1-1; the entire Tribe has lost it's eligibility to revote.
*Plan J*
The other Tribes revote between the tied, but each vote is immediately cast in secret. The two players who abstained remain not immune for purposes of a rock draw.
*Plan K*
The most recent season winner not competing in the current season shall break the tie.
*Plan L*
Exclude Extra Votes & Stolen Votes
*Plan M*
Postpone voting sentences and immunities that come with them.
*Plan N*
The tied members have to discuss and decide on one of the not tied targets.
**Plan O**
They fight for it?
@@bwburke94 *Plan O*
The lack of immunity simply means they are prone to votes. The abstaining players are untied. Only the tied players take part in a tiebreaker challenge.
I think the small blocks vs the big block could have been better -- if it had worked out they wouldnt have to get on top of each other or climb on each other
Yup, their mistake was to lift and wedge from the middle. If they all squat down and lift only 1 block from the bottom big blocks and have Scott "hold" the top part, it might go better. It's much more stable when you can lift in a position that requires you to move your body so little upwards and the person wedging the block don't have to tip toe or lean against the bottom blocks to get leverage like Peter was trying to do. They start to lose balance on the top blocks because everyone was tiptoeing trying to reach the ever growing middle blocks.
I hope this'll have 15 parts :)
Honorable mention: Rob sorting the dragon puzzle by color first while other teams were already started in S40 that costed his team crucial time and they lost because of that
So is it an anti-hack or the players TRYING to hack a challenge and it just utterly failed to work?
The stacking small blocks first strategy was just the tribe overthinking the idea that they had to stack blocks by someone standing on someone else’s shoulders. But yeah, pretty terrible.
Are you an mtv challenge fan? I'd love to see these videos done for the challenge
James (Season 10): DUMBASS ☠️☠️☠️
yes, ulong anti-hacked survivor😂
Boston Rob and Denise in the puzzle the episode danni got voted out
Top __ times challenges (poor performance) got a player eliminated