ETR. Rail fanning. Looking at Dump beds.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video we go rail fanning, we go to Watkins Yard and Parsons yard in the south end of Columbus, then we go look at two dump beds for the rail cart.
Here they are The official East Terminal Railway tee shirts! railroadmerch....
Come along with us as we fix and restore an abandoned railroad, East terminal railway has about a mile of track at the end of the line, meaning that we will have no bridge traffic or long trains run on our line. We plan to use this line for mainly car storage but also car repair and transloading.
I absolutely love this video. I love your descriptions. Since I am blind, your descriptions are very good at helping me with the things I can’t see. I also love your history knowledge.
I love the new logo it looks really good.
Ditto
Miss you guys, this content is exciting, thank you for letting us be there
So glad to be a gandy dancer on the east terminal railway. Gram, VERY nice camera work. Smooth and fluid. Brian, love the narration in the video. You two are having great adventures together that can never be topped.
during the summer of '69 a friend and I hiked the tracks through Waterford, Ct. to SS 110, a wooden tower with a coal bin
and an outhouse..... the elderly operator (M-F) waved us up from the window row and we got to inspect the track diagram and
lever bank.... we drank the coolest most tasty water from his water cooler and shared two Hostess fruit pies with him.....
that fall, with Penn Central now in control, the tower was "deleted" and someone had kicked the outhouse down the ravine...
like you, I believe something unique was simply discarded.... insurance makes this happen ever more often....
like these towers, your video narratives are very unique..... thank you from all of us
Bill in Vermont
You mentioned the ribbon rail. I noticed the rail line from where I was a kid, they didn't replace the rails. Rather removed the fish plates and welded the rails together. The holes from the bolts remain. Just like what you filmed.
I couldn`t wait till yer next video. Greetings from a former engineer on a EMD G26-HCW-2. Slovenia EU
Great logo!!! Whoever made it knows what they’re doing!!!
I live within 5 minutes of watkins yard. The indiana and ohio line only gets used 2-3 times a week usually after dark. It was a real shame to see buckeye steel go. Lived in Columbus my whole life and buckeye steel was a true landmark for rail fans and non rail fans alike. Plus, I can't tell you how many times I been down corr rd and I never knew that. Thanks for sharing.
Car repair and storage reminds me of the tale of the LaSalle and Bureau County Railroad.
Yep. They kept "borrowing" cars that needed repair. Paint them up with a new car number and collect the use payments. Some one did hard time for that little trick.
Baltimore is close to digging out the Howard Tunnel to finally allow double stacks EB to Delaware. What a huge improvement to help the port excel even further. Can't wait....
You talking about the welded rail joints. I spent much of the eighties in Alamogordo, New Mexico, which was on the So Pac Tucumcari line. At one point, the So Pac came through with a M.O.W. train that had a car on it for welding segmented rail. It would grab the rail, remove the fishplate, align the two ends, weld the rail, then grind the head of the rail smooth. The result was track that looked just like what you showed, every 39 feet. Didn't see it in operation, but the train spent the night on a spur by the Alamogordo depot. When welding segmented track, you don't have a lot of choice where to put the weld, you kinda have to put the weld where the joints are.
8:08 *My question got answered and my name got mentioned. I feel honored!* I figured you knew the business well and knew how you would get customers before you ever started this project. Some business owners take a "build it and they will come" approach. Meaning, they have no idea how to generate business but once they "build it" then they will figure out how to make money. That is definitely not you, you knew that you would utilize brokers before you ever got started.
Thumbs up! Another great video.
Danny Harmon is a Pro and he can sleep late and still have ALL the Details he needs. 😬👍
Nice, I railfan all the time. Love the map. The new logo looks very good. I am looking forward to buying a shirt and a hat when you put out a store.
I'm incredibly impressed with the increase in production quality, great work!
This was super interesting! Great video
I enjoy rail fanning too.
Those two locos at 28:10 probably had to back past the signals, and then the switch could be thrown to the proper track. Notice they were on the other side of the other signals facing the other way at first.
hey you got one of those manual gps things that require no power...a map!
Sure do miss you guys hope you have time to come back
Good thing you passed on the Buckeye truck. Those wheel's are split rim widow makers. A lot.of tire companies won't work on those wheels and they are very pricey to convert to standard rim and lug nuts.
they make tubeless rims that mount 22.5's on that 20 inch hub.
@@rearspeaker6364 in California, most tire shops won't touch those wheels. 20 years ago, everyone worked on them, these days not so many.
Great video!
Jaw tooth is the king if train video. You on the other hand are the king of rail and historical information. Good luck on your new venture. Rail car storage is good revenue
You were giving some interesting facts. Here is one for you, sprint telephone system. It was originally southern pacific railroad internal network telephone. Finally bought by united telephone co.
Neat. Unitel on canada was the combined CN AND CP rail telephone network. Cp sold it to sprint in 92 ish then it became AT&T and was then bought up by rogers.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Awesome new logo! Looking forward to more from you guys!
Pappy you are so amazing! Great Channel. Mikey
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 27 Jan 21.
Hurray! You guys finally have a logo! It is so beautiful! Hope to see some amazing merch soon! :)
Made for a great video bro I enjoy looking at rail life up your way. I quite often view the live cam at Belen or Tehachapi loop. Hope you two track down something that will work for your needs. Many years ago I drove a switcher on a private siding, in NZ we call them shunters. They updated to a center cab so had to get my diesel electric ticket (license) to drive it. Safe travels
Logo looks great! I absolutely loved this railfanning fieldtrip. All the history and details and geography- great stuff! More of that whenever the mood strikes- every bit as interesting and entertaining as when you're working on your railroad. Great stuff!
Thank you very much!
Finally got an ETR herald. Nice.
Very nice video. My grandfather was an engineer for the B&O back in the days of steam. I wonder what he would think watching those long intermodal trains go by? I'm sure he'd be amazed.
WAY too much for the trucks of that vintage and visual condition. Logo is terrific. Love the hands on, get your hands dirty attitudes. Great channel guys!!!!!
I noticed the new jacket right at the start of the video. Your videos are getting better and better keep up the good work.I agree with you just walk away.
Yeah that sawtooth would know all about those trains
You got some good action there.Alot of trains to.
First one looked good. Especially with the coal shoot door. Perfect for ballast control between the rails. The third one is cosmetic. Sandblast the surface rust. Primer black paint. Ready to go...
Dick Tracy was a Popular Comic Strip of Railroad Workers and Gravel Gertie is the affectionate nickname of a part of the Clifton Forge Line of the C & O Railroad stretching from Hinton, WV, to Clifton Forge, VA, delivering limestone gravel quarried from Fort Spring to the iron furnaces of Virginia as s fluxing agent.
Love the new logo! I was in Columbus last February and couldn’t believe how much rail traffic there was
I love all the videos. Yep even the ones that I don't rate or comment on. Yeah even the not so good ones 🙄. I wish I could watch them all in the order that they were made. But I'm just a poor boy and couldn't afford all of that.
Love the new logo
I love you guys took some time to do some rail fanning.
Like seeing all those rail served industries!
Awesome!!!!! Hope you catch some old emds
Great episode. I mean I love watch y’all work on y’all’s terminal. But watching you two train watch and talk about industrials areas that y’all did a past clean up at, and explain other areas is pretty cool and interesting.
Yes a new video
Cousins Lived in Lancaster, OH. Uncle worked at Anchor Hocking Glass. Was there once/twice.👍
I love the old history
The term you were looking for at the beginning is daily double.
Also check out Jawtooth. He does railfanning on roads in Ohio and Kentucky.
I love following your track and stock growth. If i lived closer i would love to work for you
I'd do the same... its a cool little operation
New sub man. Pretty cool content so far. In Lafayette, Indiana we got a caboose that gets pulled along for inter changing along yards!. Don't see them much in service anymore and it's always awesome to see one!!
NS units come out of the siding on to the mainline and stopped past the signal , got a signal to come back and cross over to the other mainline . I hated running long hood forward blocking the view ahead . Back in the 70's when I worked for Missouri Pacific before Union Pacific took over I was working on the Plasser Tampers I maintained down near Ferriday Louisiana ( Home of ' Jerry Lee Louis ' and there was over 1800 mostly ' RailBox ' boxcars in storage on that subdivision before it was abandoned several years later . The rail cars that went down there went by barge over the river to Natchez , Mississippi . Two subdivisions connected just five miles from Ferriday , one stayed in service longer then the one where they stored the 1800 cars and I remember a very large grain company had to get a lot of empties and it took three days for the switch crew to pull several hundred cars so they could spot the empties and after the grain cars were loaded they had to repeat the same thing to get the loaded cars out . Later in my Union Pacific Railroad career I was a rail train operator as we kept our agreement union status ( we were agreement so we got paid overtime and double time unlike the UP railtrain guys were supervisors and were salaried , no overtime for them ) and we had to ride our rail trains any time we had rail on our rail trains . We stayed on our trains when there was a crew change and kept on going until we got to our location to unload the rail . My longest trip was from Alexandria , Louisiana where I picked up 18 strings of used curve rail and took it to Blackfoot , Idaho . 2015 miles and I was on duty 110 consecutive hours , from 7 am Saturday to 10 pm Wednesday night . Stopped for an hour in North Platte , Nebraska to fuel the engines and that was the only stop until I got to Blackfoot just north of Pocatella . The welded joints across from each other is common , the welded joint is stronger , the drilled holes are weaker . Great video , keep'm coming . Over and out from central Arkansas . Thanks
Enjoyed the video 👍👍👍❤️
When it comes to cutting the brush and smaller trees, the little chain saw looks like a lot of work. When I cleared some land at our lake home, I used a gasoline weed eater with a cutting blade instead of plastic line. Worked great! Has its limitations as to trunk size, but you can cut right at ground level. More done in less time! Thanks guys.....now get to work on the next video! ;-)
I really like your videos Keep up the information
Crazy to see an NS train pull long hood forward
Thinking the same thing
@@alcopower5710 right... what are we going old school
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 ....sure looks like it
@@alcopower5710 o wonder if they will start to make that a normal thing?
Watching in class!
The Southern use to run long hood forward too. I use to get the Sou 315, bound for Houston, at East Bridge Jct. It’s on the east side of the Huey P Long Bridge over the Mississippi River, just up river from New Orleans. It was a real pain to run long hood forward for 233 miles. Also back then it was before engines and cabooses had the multi channel, all railroad, radios. All we had was our hand held radios, which only had a range of 1 to 5 miles. There were trips that I never spoke to the conductor after leaving EB Jct, until we arrived at our away from home terminal. Very often the Sou radio on the caboose would not work.
Just found you great job ! " I hear a train whistle " ha too cool.
Those are called ' Well cars " therefore they stack them two high as needed .
Love the channel. You were in my general neighborhood too! Live in Lewis Center between Worthington and Delaware. Yes, I live next to the NS and CSX lines that parallel each other through Marion. Loved the Parsons Yard footage as I worked at a motel that housed the C&O crews from Russel KY. Picked them up and dropped them off on the track side of the brick building. The crew caller and register was in the basement. Thanks for the memory.
Keep it coming. I am hooked!
I went to high school in Delaware, those tracks went right past the end zone of our football field. Used to hop trains after school to get to a park a couple miles south of the school playing hooky. Damn, that was a long time ago.
@@farmerbill6855 Those tracks are the original C&O line from Columbus and go up on west side of Delaware, yes? I live by what used to be the Pennsylvania ( now NS) and the CCC&StL (now CSX). CSX got the line following the closure of Conrail. Very ugly trackage at time of change over.
The CSX caboose has remote control equipment in it to control a locomotive that does not have remote control. Hook up the cables and set the locomotive to MU(multiple unit) and control it with the caboose.
I live between Columbus and Marion right beside the CSX train tracks. I love the stuff in Marion next to the old Power Shovel Plant .
The welded joint placement you saw is dictated by several factors. The crossing panel joints are sometimes near parallel, depending on the decisions made by the installing foreman. Usually I could achieve at least 3 feet of stagger, more if it was a three panel installation ( track panel, track panel for the crossing, track panel) achieved by removing anchors and sliding rails, then cutting in slugs to fill the gaps. It was recommended that welds be at least 18 feet apart, never less than 10 to avoid propagation of defects (Your rails fall apart). No welds were allowed in the crossing, we would use rail lengths up to 88 feet if necessary. Parallel joints end up occurring at rail and road crossings, and signal points where insulated slugs were cut into the track and welded. Parallel joints are not prohibited, just not recommended as longitudinal stress will affect track elevation (the weather humps your track) and rail fracture can affect track geometry (gauge, degree of curvature, alignment) when a rail breaks under tension in winter.
“Hurry up and wait,” made me a lot of money on the RR. We had a lot of, “Hurry up and wait,” in the Air Force too, but no extra pay.
6918th?
Rich Zahnle What about 6918th?
@@billmorris2613 Just wondering if you are the Bill Morris that was in the 6918th, Hakata Japan
Rich Zahnle No not me. I never got to Japan. Close though, I was in The Philippines.
Thank you for your service to our great country. None of this would be possible without brave men and women like you. God bless America
ALCo, gotta get one
Heya man, COAL POLLUTES! Haven't you heard!
Love what you are doing, Truly enjoy watching your Videos. Just a thought - buy a used dump trailer, take the wheels off and mount it !
Love the history lesson. Sad the Governments dont care about Heavy industry.
Im an intermodal trucker in Cincinnati. The Florida east coast is an interesting line. Got bought out by a Mexican outfit a few years ago.
They handle alot of port work in Florida. Their cars are on CSX and NS both.
I read something recently and saw a video where the old Jefferson Proving Ground north of Madson, Indiana is being used for car storage. They showed multiple tracks in a yard there with cars in storage. Being an old military base it is probably a good use of the old rails there.
Buckeye Steel is why knuckle couplers are known as "buckeye couplers" in the UK.
Don't know if this was mentioned but when the long hood forward came by and just sat there he had to go past the signal block for the yard or dispatcher to throw the switch. The switch can't be operated until the system knows the train/engines are out of that block. You were sitting right in the middle of a signal block. (signals facing away from you at both ends)
Great job as usual. The logo looks ok, yeah just ok. You didnt pay homage to your Coast Guard days. Maybe inside the pocket watch you could put crossed anchors the still make the quadrant of the RR sign. Semper Paratus brother.
hi guys like your work, work on sleeppers during winter is silly,frozen ,,noway ,the only way is too drop a steam fire bbox on iit ,,if i lived their i would be a pest,always in the road,in the workshop is the only place in snow,talking trains over coffee.
A two-fecta is called an exacta. Keep up the good work!
Wait until these guy get a drone, be awsome video footage!
It always is funny to see a car like the FEC one in another state that's not even close to where it should be. I've always wondered why certain cars get migrated to other lines.
An old S Series International - The Buckeye Landscape truck. If it's got a DT466 series engine it would be a good buy. Too bad the body and cab are falling off the frame.
Buckeye yard is being sold and scrapped. I know someone that’s already asked the scrap dealer about all the railroad signals
Hate to hear that
Alco Power man who works for NS told me this. Said they are even selling it in separate parcels because they don’t want it in one big chunk of land. Why that I will never know.
@@Paw95 .....maybe selling it in separate parcels because they don’t want anyone to use it for any railroad purposes.
Alco Power that’s a good possibility. I have no idea what others connect to it.
@@Paw95 more money in lots than 1 big piece.
Probably the reason for the single stack containers is.. weight.. those end cars have max 125000 lb and the center single axle cars are 75000-90000 depending on the type of well car. The RRs do this with 20 footers a lot. Another answer could be they got unloaded on route.
I have one of the original Pennsylvania Railroad spikes from 1950
Where I'm from we love the c&o in between huntington wv and Russell ky we are in ashland ky great channel any neat c&o stuff definitely show it to us
There's a bunch of old diesel locomotives in north Connersville Indiana if you guys are looking for one. Located south eastern Indiana. Not to far away.
If you get a chance read the trains article covering well car origins, railroads at the time almost abandoned the double stack concept due to the cars being plagued by derailment issues
I think AAR requires railroads that have long backing moves to use a caboose so the conductor want have to ride on the end car a lot safer
Hey y'all got a new logo!
do you like it?
@@eastterminalrailway5975 I do!
@@eastterminalrailway5975 of course! If fits your company
@@eastterminalrailway5975 Yeah it looks good
Well coming next is merchandise!!!
You should get Jawtooth to work for you since he likes the I&ORY too.
Single stacks go through Maryland tunnels witch I believe they are increasing height.
NS 9392 is a GE D9-44CW, and 1009 is an EMD SD70ACe
The Watkins Yard is named for Hays Watkins, former CSX CEO.
I think for what y'all want to do you could buy the materials and build a gravity action dump bed yourselves for what you would spend on a dump truck bed and modifying it to work. Far as that goes to make it hydraulic dump wouldn't be that much more expensive either to build yourselves. A tank to hold hydraulic fluid that you could build yourself, a hydraulic cylinder that maybe could be found at a junk yard or buy new and a hydraulic pump that you could salvage or buy new, then your hoses. There is the work involved to build that but either way you go, be it gravity dump or hydraulic; you'd have work involved to fix and mount whatever you bought anyway. I think I'd start scrounging up materials and penciling out a plan. Most junkyards in my area, not sure about your area; have metal that people have brought as scrap that the yard will sell you. Nothing wrong with it except it's covered in surface rust and still flat and useable. You'd have to paint it but you'd have to paint a dump bed you buy too. Six to one, half a dozen to the other. Just kicking around ideas. Stay well. -Wil 👍
Check out the rail yard over by hillard and the ups facility. Its huge!
Sitting at red signals like that auto rack trains was sure makes me a lot of money... lol. During your loco purchase let me say this. If you’re pulling tonnage buy GE. If you’re going to do any switching buy an EMD. GE’s pull MUCH better than EMD’s but EMD’s switch so much better. (Been an engineer since 2007).
I don’t know if anyone noticed but, the lead engine 9624 is in the Thoroughbred logo but the area around the number boards are white
4:20 Old bulk transfer yard. MoW makes more use of it these days.
23:50 I'm not wondering about the joints comming together. The rails on the crossing are grooved ones with steel ties. The joints are telling more about where one contractor was ending its job and another was starting.
If I was you I would stick to your industrial dump cart idea mounted on a metal fork lift skid that you could make into a turn table that can be fixed and removed by a few ratchet tie downs. Then keep your eyes out for a small one ton truck or trailer landscaping dump bed with the foldable sides. But I’m kind of in agreement with some others here on the issues with a cart and side dumping so thing that heavy. I’m not sure there is enough mass to keep the bed and cart on the rails. I’m sure you been around side dump ballast cars and seen them. They are massive just to be able to stand and stay on the rails. Even then a wet rock load if not handled really right will derail them. The industrial carts I think while spreading ballast on the rails might be slow due to needing something right there to spread it to continue forward or back down the rails dumping to the side should be about the same as side dump ballast cars as they don’t really spread the rock either they rely on the machines to do it.
A contractors bed on a truck with a rail kit or a trailer modified to be rail stock you would be able to spread ballast to the rear rather easy but even with the folding sides it’s going to require some way to offset the dumping weight to the opposite side as it dumps and then spreading prob won’t be any more effective than the industrial cart dumping and cost more money. IE way to shift weight while dumping or maybe using an outrigger on each side while dumping operation is carried out.
However if you were willing to stay in the industrial size dumps there are several company’s that make powered carts or small skid steer type vehicle dumps with rotating beds those beds while only being a yard and 1/2 to 2 yards are smaller but center of gravity isn’t as large of an issue and they been around a while so finding them in junk yards needing new engines or pumps isn’t as big deal and can be found cheap as the original parts are expensive. You wouldn’t be using those as much as probably an electric hydraulic or air or direct hydraulic off another unit
The small 3way dump beds can often be found on those small little Japanese trucks, trailers sold by CAM super line or least used to be when we had one.
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The truck beds can sometimes be found on municipal trucks or Mercedes Unimogs as well
And as stated before they can sometimes be found on tracked skid steer type trucks from different manufactures. But they don’t really all operate on a turntable but a hydraulic cylinder that has a ball in the top and the bed is manipulated by moving the bed pins ( two in back make it dump to rear. Two in right side make it dump to right side.) least that’s how our trailer worked