i'm a die hard fan of Jay but he had better chances than Kay, Jay had almost flawless physique but he didn't wanted to destroy his body playing Coleman's game. Kay had to face Phil in his best and he had some flaws in his physique
He did that once relax baby 🤣 and Ronnie did only loose once because his stomic looks a bit fatter 🤣 worst version of Ronnie is on level with the best version of Cutler.
All of them deserved at least one title especially comparing to today's standards. It is hard to believe that Flex Wheeler couldn't get a title with that physique... he could easily dominate this decade.
Flex never won because his best 93 was against Dorian's best 93. He came in soft so many times, by the time he got his shot together Ronnie came in with his best. Shawn definitely deserves to win in 94 those
I swear Kai Greene deserves that title. He's not just a bodybuilder but a performer. Him and Kevin are for sure overlooked in some aspects. Fire video tho
Few people understand this, being at this level is a massive win. Same as Olympic medals, 2nd and 3rd places on the whole fkin planet is a mindblowing achievement.
To me..Kai will always be something MORE than any title. He transcends any bodybuilding competition title. He is his own universe. I will always be more moved and motivated by him than any title holder.
Shawn Ray was never going to win the O just because of his lack of mass, but god damn, he had the most symmetrical and appealing physique year in year out.
Similar controversies were observed in the past, even in the old classic days. serge nubret never won Mr.Olympia when I personally feel him to be the most aesthetic body builders of all times. He ended up on second position couple of times when he was at his prime shape of his body. Refer to Mr. Olympia 1975 if i remember it correctly. If at all it comes to body bulk, why body builders like Paul Dillet, Markus Ruhl not considered for title. Paul and Markus has greatest bulk ever seen. Same is the case with Lou Ferigno. Even Ronnie would look small in front of Paul and Markus. My personal view. I respect the legend Arnold and Ronnie and all time greatest Lee Haney.
I agree with most of your points except: 1. Paul was the worst poser ever (you must learn to pose and hold a pose if not you can't win bodybuilding shows) and his back was very weak. Nowhere close to Markus let alone Ronnie. 2. Prime Ronnie was the Absolute Epitome of Bodybuilding (Size, Conditioning and the Wow factor). Nobody should be ashamed or upset that they didn't win because they were against the GOAT. Anyone who made it to the top 6 in Ronnie and Dorian era are Champions among Champions. On a side note, my list in order are Ronnie, Arnold, Dorian and then Lee.
your personal view needs glasses.ronnie looking small?both guys were huge at their peak but ripped 300 lbs ronnie overpowered them both.1975 arnold was in good condition and nubret s aethetics wasn t nowhere enough.shape is only a part of the whole and arnold wasn t bad at it.he had very pleasing god like shape like narrator said in the film pumping iron.all time greatest lee haney?mmhe dominated a very mediocre era of bodybyilding with qiute weak bodybuilders like gaspari placing second.
Olympia is just a political platform there has always been many great bodybuilders who have never won Sergio had the best tapers of all time Lee labrada should have won one Yates shouldn't have won with damaged bicept even though iam a fan it just goes on even shaun Ray was an amazing shape. 💪👍
Nah! Flex trained like a pussy and his physique showed it. Not granular; soft; he has insane genetics which allowed him to go far but he never had a champion mentality. He doesn't dispute the training commentary; he said in a Flex magazine interview that he'd often end a set if he started to sweat lol
Nasser had beaten Dorian. Due to the political score of the organizers of Olympia, Dorian won. Dorian, who collapsed Biceps, beat Nasser. This was a ridiculous result. The same goes for Victor Martinez. However, Kai Greene lagged behind Phil heath in every way. In terms of pose, aesthetic harmony, golden ratio, etc.It was a landslide victory for Phil Heath. I hope Kai Greene will be happy to throw away his sense of damage for the rest of his life.✅
Spot on, i was saying the same thing. People simply can't stand the fact that Kai was not as good as Phill, was a good second but to beat Phill no, simply no. Phill was better conditioned, balanced, better flowing lines, more simetrical, cartoonish, 3d muscles popping everyware and a lights out back. I don't even know why in the world we have this discussion. Kevin, Flex, Nasser, Victor Martinez, Shawn Ray they all could very well got one Mr. olympia title ( some maybe more than just one ) and some of them were simply and patheticaly robbed, like Nasser, but Kai Green ?? No, there is no case to be made here, he is simply not as good as Phill Heath for us to be having this discussion at all, by no means. But fans will be fans ... and blow wind no matter what.
You have to be a jay cutler and keep going till you beat him..Kai should have kept going ..how Dorian won a few times is ridiculous..I like Dorian but come on
Non way Kevin could beat Ronny was so huge he appear double of the size of Kevin. Even kevin was astonish to see him with this size, he told him he never seen that.
Problem is in the Golden Era each bodybuilder was great and yet each one of them looked unique...today each of them looks exactly same with those monstrous physique
Off all of the you mentioned Kai Green didn't deserve one single title in the runs that he got with Phill. Not one, Phill was just better and more balanced, and i hate saying that because i can't stand that cocky guy, but Kai green ? No sir, simply no. The rest spot on.
That was fuckn great kong....i see you're work....now can we get a plate rattle montage nobody's done that yet....that plate sound drives my energy up in the gym....i hate rubber coated plates...🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
we need to redefine failure. failure is not participating in My Olympia, failure is not being top 10, failure is not being second position. Failure is having a dream and not pursuing it
"Deserved"?? Those are strong words Jake.. Kai definitely deserved to win. I guess Kevin Levron, Victor Martinez, Serge and Flex Wheeler also didn't deserve to win coz they "lacked"?? You can't be top 2 for so many years and people say you didn't "deserve" to win. Just saying
Almost 70% of world population don't like this sport, its an extraordinary thing an average person can never do that, complete dedication. Every sport is important but this is crazy stuff.
hats down to each and every one of these guys. It's a life style not many can achieve, but the only thing I don't agree here is that Shawn Ray ever deserved Mr. O. in that era, man look at Dorian, a block of concrete.
Watch the segment with Shawn Ray in it, he said it himself that he is at peace in never winning the Mr. Olympia knowing that symmetry, aesthetics and definition counts for nothing to win. The criteria went the opposite way and in your own words "A BLOCK OF CONCRETE"
@@ryk1265 yeah will do, let's compare Shawn ray with Dorian, it's easy to say for a guy who is 1.68m that symmetry is best because he cant ever put size and not lose that small waist, but Dorian on the other hand had both. And in no way could Shawn ever achieve that level i mean 6 time back to back Mr Olympia says a lot, you can't stage that and Shawn got only once close to it.
@@ryk1265 Not to mention bodybuilding judging is subjective and and skewed. For a person to win 6 years in a row and come in on numerous occasions weak or outright subpar on certain body parts even injured in certain areas and still wins the entire competition proves this. Multiple wins from any of those champions only demonstrates judges go into the competition with closed minds the majority of the time!!!
Dorian is my fravioute BB but let's b honest nasseer deserved that title, but I respect Dorian not just because he's from my hometown but because what he done for sport here in Birmingham, UK he doesn't get enough respect
Levrone, Wheeler and Ray should've won at least 1 Olympia. Yates and Coleman had the mass but not the aesthetics which should be more important in such show. I'm not even talking about the visible injuries Yates had, he never should've won other Olympias with that.
This just goes to show, you're not the champion only by winning the title and getting praise among men, you're never it if you dont have the unshakeable mentallity that makes you pursue your goals through every obstacle life throws your way, even if it happens successively and everyone considers your attemps a waste of time. That's when you truly build a character and the discipline that most people who have reason, can only dream of existing. If people keep on pursuing things such as this, judgement from others, and basing their entire career while commiting atrocities to their own bodies while being full aware of it, it will only inevitably lead them to despair and frustration.
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Loved it when Günter said to the audience:
"To hell with my placement you were great fans thank you for that, it means so much more to me."
Thank's for Günter Schlierkamp. Greetz from Germany!
The Triceps of Kevin Levrone 🔥
Makes Jay Cutler the most determined in the sport as he competed against the best in Ronnie and eventually defeated him and then came back again.
i'm a die hard fan of Jay but he had better chances than Kay, Jay had almost flawless physique but he didn't wanted to destroy his body playing Coleman's game.
Kay had to face Phil in his best and he had some flaws in his physique
He did that once relax baby 🤣 and Ronnie did only loose once because his stomic looks a bit fatter 🤣 worst version of Ronnie is on level with the best version of Cutler.
Cutler was only able to beat the worst version of Ronnie...
I don’t compete. Don’t care to. I just enjoy working out. These videos are inspiring.
All of them deserved at least one title especially comparing to today's standards. It is hard to believe that Flex Wheeler couldn't get a title with that physique... he could easily dominate this decade.
No calves.
@@bentnosewp he's not white
@@bentnosewp I think it’s more so his forearms.
Flex never won because his best 93 was against Dorian's best 93. He came in soft so many times, by the time he got his shot together Ronnie came in with his best. Shawn definitely deserves to win in 94 those
@@ausarjaguar3309 stupid racist comment lol dont you know most mr olympias have been black??
Nasser and flex deserve Mr Olympia title
Lol not flex
YES VERY TRUE AND INSPIRING! DEVELOP YOURSELF AS A BETTER PERSON THROUGH VICTORY AND FAILURE!
When you have Ronnie & Jay in the house, you're not robbed.
Stfu time proved that levrone was right he is healthy not like cutler and ronie
No Gunter and Markus Ruhl we’re both robbed
Shawn Ray " I'm not bitter" 😂😂😂 he is the very definition of the term still to this day
Ray was the worst of the bunch. Useless body and useless human being
shawn ray"i m not bitter and i don t have delts"ray.
I swear Kai Greene deserves that title. He's not just a bodybuilder but a performer. Him and Kevin are for sure overlooked in some aspects. Fire video tho
Hey Mimi... Thanks for the complement 🔥🔥
Yes anyone cant deny it
No he does not. Dont get me wrong i like him but he has had a problem with a fucking ugly bubble gut.Kai and phil should have been dq in 2017.
Kai could have won if he would have came through on Phil's last competition.Kai would have beat him a got his sandow he should have never gave up smh.
When you step on stage 9 months pregnant as a man......you dont get the big O
Sick video. All of these guys should def have won a Mr. O.
The harder and longer you have to fight, the sweeter the victory will taste.
I wouldnt call it failure when you are one of the top ten Mr.Olympia.Imagine being that among thousands of bodybuilders.
Few people understand this, being at this level is a massive win. Same as Olympic medals, 2nd and 3rd places on the whole fkin planet is a mindblowing achievement.
Those 40 seconds from 3.30 to 4.10 show you why the 90s bodybuilders are superior to the bodybuilders of today
100%
Such great shape and proportions. Ramy and Nick Walker just look like piles of muscle with blocky waists.
@@peterjoseph8974 💯. I would choose Levrone over them any day
Because in that era bodybuilders prepare for only one show
But now they do many shows which they have a lack of time for that
@@peterjoseph8974 This is a new era😇
Bravo, brother. I felt this in my soul. Kai she’d grown man tears. Failure is the stepping stone to success.
thanks brow for you video 👍
Great video 👍👍🏻👍🏾
Great 👍 👌 body builders
To me..Kai will always be something MORE than any title. He transcends any bodybuilding competition title. He is his own universe. I will always be more moved and motivated by him than any title holder.
that was a weird comment.unfortunately mr.olympia is a bodybuilding contest,not mr. new age nonsense contest.kai greene,mr.his own universe.
Wow! Now let’s watch how champions are made!
It’s the measure of a man who stands up after a defeat. In my view it’s the future champion
This video needed to be made. It's obvious these are the guys that should have won. I said out loud "Were these judges blind?!"
Shawn Ray was never going to win the O just because of his lack of mass, but god damn, he had the most symmetrical and appealing physique year in year out.
Nasser got ROBBED in 1997 😩
RIP Nasser
Dickerson got robbed in 1981 by a fixed competition. Franco didn't even deserve to b in the top 5🤷
You got that right bro.
2 of the best ever, Shawn Ray and Lee Labrada
Bob paris, lee labrada, berry demey, charles clairemont.
nice
Thanks bro
Wealth is waking up every day to do what you love.
Similar controversies were observed in the past, even in the old classic days. serge nubret never won Mr.Olympia when I personally feel him to be the most aesthetic body builders of all times. He ended up on second position couple of times when he was at his prime shape of his body. Refer to Mr. Olympia 1975 if i remember it correctly. If at all it comes to body bulk, why body builders like Paul Dillet, Markus Ruhl not considered for title. Paul and Markus has greatest bulk ever seen. Same is the case with Lou Ferigno. Even Ronnie would look small in front of Paul and Markus. My personal view. I respect the legend Arnold and Ronnie and all time greatest Lee Haney.
I agree with most of your points except:
1. Paul was the worst poser ever (you must learn to pose and hold a pose if not you can't win bodybuilding shows) and his back was very weak. Nowhere close to Markus let alone Ronnie.
2. Prime Ronnie was the Absolute Epitome of Bodybuilding (Size, Conditioning and the Wow factor). Nobody should be ashamed or upset that they didn't win because they were against the GOAT. Anyone who made it to the top 6 in Ronnie and Dorian era are Champions among Champions.
On a side note, my list in order are Ronnie, Arnold, Dorian and then Lee.
your personal view needs glasses.ronnie looking small?both guys were huge at their peak but ripped 300 lbs ronnie overpowered them both.1975 arnold was in good condition and nubret s aethetics wasn t nowhere enough.shape is only a part of the whole and arnold wasn t bad at it.he had very pleasing god like shape like narrator said in the film pumping iron.all time greatest lee haney?mmhe dominated a very mediocre era of bodybyilding with qiute weak bodybuilders like gaspari placing second.
Olympia is just a political platform there has always been many great bodybuilders who have never won Sergio had the best tapers of all time Lee labrada should have won one Yates shouldn't have won with damaged bicept even though iam a fan it just goes on even shaun Ray was an amazing shape. 💪👍
The best physique to ever roll across the Olympia stage was Flex Wheeler.. He was definitely robbed!!
Ronnie was next level I think in 1999 Felx was amazing but I think Ronnie won it by few points
Nah! Flex trained like a pussy and his physique showed it. Not granular; soft; he has insane genetics which allowed him to go far but he never had a champion mentality. He doesn't dispute the training commentary; he said in a Flex magazine interview that he'd often end a set if he started to sweat lol
Ronnie eat him 98 an 99
Unfortunately prime Flex had to face the GOAT in his prime.
Flex is my favourite pro bodybuilder I agree if he worked harder he could have won a Mr O but ronnie was unbeatable in his prime
Has sido y serás siempre la leyenda más grande del Iron generation. Sin dudas.
Great fighters.
Definitely 🔥🔥
It's all about who and which personality will make the business more profitable. So many held the crown for years after their peak.
Nasser for sure 💔💔
In my eyes he’s an uncrowned mr Olympia watched a few of Kai’s videos very humble
In 1999 Flex looked better than Ronnie
I think Ronnie won it
😂😂😂😂😂 stop smoking cristal meth plz
Absolutely not.
Without a doubt...
💯
Nasser had beaten Dorian. Due to the political score of the organizers of Olympia, Dorian won.
Dorian, who collapsed Biceps, beat Nasser. This was a ridiculous result. The same goes for Victor Martinez.
However, Kai Greene lagged behind Phil heath in every way. In terms of pose, aesthetic harmony, golden ratio, etc.It was a landslide victory for Phil Heath.
I hope Kai Greene will be happy to throw away his sense of damage for the rest of his life.✅
Spot on, i was saying the same thing. People simply can't stand the fact that Kai was not as good as Phill, was a good second but to beat Phill no, simply no. Phill was better conditioned, balanced, better flowing lines, more simetrical, cartoonish, 3d muscles popping everyware and a lights out back.
I don't even know why in the world we have this discussion.
Kevin, Flex, Nasser, Victor Martinez, Shawn Ray they all could very well got one Mr. olympia title ( some maybe more than just one ) and some of them were simply and patheticaly robbed, like Nasser, but Kai Green ?? No, there is no case to be made here, he is simply not as good as Phill Heath for us to be having this discussion at all, by no means.
But fans will be fans ... and blow wind no matter what.
Not all, 2014 or 15 the controversial that left former Bodybuilders speechless 😶
You have to be a jay cutler and keep going till you beat him..Kai should have kept going ..how Dorian won a few times is ridiculous..I like Dorian but come on
@@vickclash7955 Prime Phil's only weakness is narrow shoulder. Kai has many weakness like forearms, short bicep heads and upper traps is shallow.
Nasser had no back
This motivates me to work out more. Similarly, the Jon Andersen Channel motivates me to be a beast in the gym.
No lies were told in this video!
How much time & dedication it needs I know very well ❤️
So much
Yes, great movie
Never quit man. Kai have potential to win mr o.
Non way Kevin could beat Ronny was so huge he appear double of the size of Kevin. Even kevin was astonish to see him with this size, he told him he never seen that.
Don't quit brother you're so fuckin close your day will come you have to believe it
Robbed again, Jesus get it together me Olympia, dude stays killling it reward his hard work.
Problem is in the Golden Era each bodybuilder was great and yet each one of them looked unique...today each of them looks exactly same with those monstrous physique
Kai Greene, Victor Martinez, Nasser El Sonbaty, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, and Kevin Levrone all deserved at least 1 Olympia crown.
I agree kai deserve the mr.olympia gold, but phil has that fucking genetics gift.
Off all of the you mentioned Kai Green didn't deserve one single title in the runs that he got with Phill. Not one, Phill was just better and more balanced, and i hate saying that because i can't stand that cocky guy, but Kai green ? No sir, simply no. The rest spot on.
@@eclipsesolar8345 debatable
Kai,flex, and Kevin does not deserve in my opinion.
@@liyanqil flex and Kevin don’t? Why? They’re absolute legends
When everyone looks that yoked but there can only be one winner... 😢
Shawn Ray, Kai Green and the list goes on.
That was fuckn great kong....i see you're work....now can we get a plate rattle montage nobody's done that yet....that plate sound drives my energy up in the gym....i hate rubber coated plates...🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lets gooo baby.. Its time to shine 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That was a good one....😂😂😂
Dope heads
we need to redefine failure. failure is not participating in My Olympia, failure is not being top 10, failure is not being second position. Failure is having a dream and not pursuing it
Close only counts horseshoes and hand grenades. Not 1st, last. Mj the goat 🐐 #23
If Kai Greene didn't quit he would have won the Mr. Olympia..
Exactly!
@@Nirsterkur thanks you for replying...
Yup I think so too
Exactly why i don't feel bad for him....and he even continued to keep his size/shape for years after he stopped competing. His choice, his loss.
Jay Cutler is the man who never quits
Nasser...🥺😥💪
Uncrowned Mr.olympia🙃
Yup Murali there were too good to place 2nd
Kevin Levrone is the best one and only uncrowned mr Olympia ever.
Nasser deserved an O more than anyone else in this vid
Roni Coleman is another level....
Flex Wheeler for me is the best Physique ever... Flexatron had some similiraties and reminded me of Flex Wheeler. Rip Shawn Rhoden
So many great BB who never won the Olympia when they earned it. All politics....
97 Nsssar & 07 Victor really deserved the Sandow.
Kai never deserved an Olympia title, his physique lacked so much.
I love his aggressive look that was next level
@@KongMotivation I can agree with that he was a great competitor and brought a lot of hype to the Olympia
More muscular sure but Heath whopped his ass
Kai small traps and small forearms through his whole physics off.
"Deserved"??
Those are strong words Jake..
Kai definitely deserved to win.
I guess Kevin Levron, Victor Martinez, Serge and Flex Wheeler also didn't deserve to win coz they "lacked"??
You can't be top 2 for so many years and people say you didn't "deserve" to win. Just saying
All greats there's time
Nobody could see Ronnie Coleman for nine 9yrs..he was a freak of nature
Naser ,Flex and Kai greene all three deserve atleast 1 mr.O title
Uncrowned Mr Olympia Kai Greene,Like to see him again in Olympia stage
All these guys are on juice
Too many bodybuilders encounter someone that had something extra and that stopped them from winning
Mike Mentzer, Tom Platz, Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone uncrowned kings!
Failur is one thing, but when the judges are blind and judge on something else, that's not fair.
They should just make a mass monster division, bodybuilding is balance, symmetry, porportian, striations, and conditioning. No bubble gut.
Nasser sir....kevin....kai .... at which point they lacked ah😡😡😡they r well deserved🥺
Almost 70% of world population don't like this sport, its an extraordinary thing an average person can never do that, complete dedication. Every sport is important but this is crazy stuff.
Flex Wheeler was from another planet.
hats down to each and every one of these guys. It's a life style not many can achieve, but the only thing I don't agree here is that Shawn Ray ever deserved Mr. O. in that era, man look at Dorian, a block of concrete.
Bullcrap!
Watch the segment with Shawn Ray in it, he said it himself that he is at peace in never winning the Mr. Olympia knowing that symmetry, aesthetics and definition counts for nothing to win. The criteria went the opposite way and in your own words "A BLOCK OF CONCRETE"
@@ryk1265 yeah will do, let's compare Shawn ray with Dorian, it's easy to say for a guy who is 1.68m that symmetry is best because he cant ever put size and not lose that small waist, but Dorian on the other hand had both. And in no way could Shawn ever achieve that level i mean 6 time back to back Mr Olympia says a lot, you can't stage that and Shawn got only once close to it.
@@ryk1265 Not to mention bodybuilding judging is subjective and and skewed. For a person to win 6 years in a row and come in on numerous occasions weak or outright subpar on certain body parts even injured in certain areas and still wins the entire competition proves this. Multiple wins from any of those champions only demonstrates judges go into the competition with closed minds the majority of the time!!!
$50k?! They should’ve getting more for second. As big as the industry is… that’s one medical bill if they tear muscles
It was the early 90 s its 300 k now
Flex Wheeler and Naser el Soboty 2 most roobed bodybuilders in history. both should win
Politics is in every aspect of life but we call it unfairness but the underlying reason is a self interest.
Kai Greene makes me cry😟
❤🔥🔥
Lets gooo 💪💪💪💪
Dorian is my fravioute BB but let's b honest nasseer deserved that title, but I respect Dorian not just because he's from my hometown but because what he done for sport here in Birmingham, UK he doesn't get enough respect
Flex deserves even one Mr.O win
Dont cry big boy..
Kai never had the complete package on the day Phil always was better so he never was uncrowned Mr olympia. Shawn Ray robbed at least twice
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Nasser ,victor and Kai really got robbed
Jay Cutler proves that whining about losing doesn't mean shit unless you win
Wishlist: atleast one each to Wheeler and Levrone, and good health to Ronnie
INDEED THEY WERE #ROBBED 😭😭😭
They were robbed 😭😭😭😭
That sucks the way it went down for them but they are the very best that is for sure
Levrone, Wheeler and Ray should've won at least 1 Olympia. Yates and Coleman had the mass but not the aesthetics which should be more important in such show.
I'm not even talking about the visible injuries Yates had, he never should've won other Olympias with that.
Who’s that talking at 2:55 about failure? Sounds so familiar
💯💯❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🏋🏽💪🏼🏆
Some guys lives were ruined because they felt they didn't got what they deserved. The best example is Mike Mentzer (RIP) in 1980.
they are all winners!
This just goes to show, you're not the champion only by winning the title and getting praise among men, you're never it if you dont have the unshakeable mentallity that makes you pursue your goals through every obstacle life throws your way, even if it happens successively and everyone considers your attemps a waste of time. That's when you truly build a character and the discipline that most people who have reason, can only dream of existing.
If people keep on pursuing things such as this, judgement from others, and basing their entire career while commiting atrocities to their own bodies while being full aware of it, it will only inevitably lead them to despair and frustration.
Kai Greene is my favorite of all time for sure.
My man been robbed for years.
Real talk Phil Lee Haney and Ronnie deserve to win all those titles but Dorian and Jay they shouldn't have
Coleman belly came first, the body came after to receive the trophys.
joeal thomas motivation ready bro
Coming soon
HE SHOULD BE THE OLYMPIAN. HE IS BADASS