No Till Winter Rye Food Plots
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2021
- There are so many options for Winter Rye no till food plots for whitetails. From no till seeding to cultipacking fully matured rye grain, there are so many ways to utilize a planting of rye grain.
Check out my food plot planting web class to help guide you to proven success this Fall.
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OUTSTANDING Jeff! Thank You Sir!! You are truly a gift from God...
I've been watching you for years, amazing video
HEYYYYY I'm watching within an hour of you posting! I am so glad I bought your book since you referenced it in this video. YOU ARE SETTING those who LISTEN UP FOR SUCCESS ! I pray I can harvest a big buck 🙏 I am looking for a good website to buy soybeans. I can't find any locally
Deer creek seed is a good source for non roundup ready beans shipped. Otherwise I would check a local co-op.
Great show brother keep up the good work
Thanks for all the great information.
Love your channel dude.
That's how the farms plant all there pumpkins. I till let weeds come up then plant corn then roundup !! You've been so great for hunting community
Great information - thank you.
Good morning sir,... I've seen that white deer in a couple videos now.. very cool!
So cool...beautiful!!
Thanks Jeff👍
Can't wait to do the no till method next year
It does work well!! Just have to make sure you don't get seedhead rye germination too early...or you need to make sure that you kill it.
And I was very surprised here Rye Rye Rye I gather that this is for people that didn't cut it down early enough to get in there buckwheat totally agree with planting it in the fall mine came up early in the spring in the deer were in it but this year I'm going with the Jeff Buck wheat and packing I missed your videos for a day or two when I feel like I miss something here I watch it a second time as I always do and figure it out
Good morning! Just not raining here in bemidji..winter rye to the rescue
Good morning! Still a lot of time 😊 We finally got some rain this morning!
I am becoming an addicted viewer of your videos! Thank you!! I do want to make a comment ... I have not planted a single thing yet, but I did hear you say one thing that you may want to consider. I was in Bismarck ND last year and spent an hour with Gabe Brown. He is a no-till farmer. He does not use Round-up ready corn in his fields. He says that he has observed the deer in his neighborhood leaving his neighbor's corn (which is roundup ready corn) and coming to his corn. He claims that deer prefer non GMO corn. He says that they know the difference. Perhaps if deer hunters try non-GMO corn, we may have an advantage over the acres and acres of Ag fields that surround our woods.
Here in Iowa I've been doing the winter rye into beans in the fall when they yellow up. Then spray it off and and drag in beans. Works great and holds moisture well. Then put a side plot of brassicas that we burn the field off after spraying. I'd love to see how well corn does. Most people have always told me corn needs a lot of nutrients to be successful.
Jeff I enjoy the information you put out. Trying to convert it to my area. North Alabama and South Tennessee. Can Buckwheat be broadcast in the standing rye in a rotation like the corn and beans ?
Packer Maxx posted that you got the 1st crimper attachment for the cultipacker. Are you planning to do a video review about it?
Hey Jeff Great content keep it up. I have a question. I let the rye get to tall this year before I sprayed it in late may when it was 6’ tall, i’m worried about the germination for the brassica‘s and peas do you have any suggestions of getting the seed to the soil. Thank you for the content you provide.
Good morning Jeff what do recommend for what type off food plot I could use in wooded areas. Again another great video thanks
If you had only a few small plots and were in a state like SC what would you be planting in September? Wanting to establish food plots on our lease. Definitely ordering the book!
Hey Jeff, I had a few questions about planting the fall forage blend from Northwoods Whitetail, I wanted to know about how many inches deep you need to plant it? And if you add the forage radish to it do you over-seed it on top after you disc the fall forage in or do you combine it with the mix?
Morning Jeff! Thanks for another good video... Want to use Deergro plot start on my no-till food plots but question about spraying the Plot start on top of dying/dead rye or buckwheat!! Any thoughts?? Thanks!
Interesting idea planting late corn like that. It will germinate under the rye thatch without being incorporated in to soil? Im assuming you did this a week or so ago to have enough days before we are seeing frost here in Wi/Mn?
Great video as always! Where do you get your round up ready corn and soybeans? I've had a tough time finding any.
Hi Jeff I have watched and have Learned a lot from your videos and love it but im kinda curious how I can use the winter wheat or rye as a cover and not let it go to seed or kill my brassica blind by spraying it thanks for any help
I would like to say thank you Jeff im doing everything you say I'm seeing a big difference on my property with mock scraps and water hole. If I kill the rye I have in my food plot can I just throw rye down on the ground and will it grow?
When do you plant rye? What you going to plant over the corn soybeans once they are done
Rye can be King.
Would you do fall weed control with Gly ahead of late winter/frost seeding switch for barriers?
We have several smaller plots in southern Michigan all weed free now thanks to Gly. Planting time ahead; peas and oats in two weeks following with Brassicas and radish end of August. We just need a moist Sept. Bow season starts in about 10 weeks!
My rye did not get that tall only maybe about a foot, can I still spray and plant into it?? Thanks for the videos.
Jeff - Is it okay to plant winter rye with annual clover in mid to late August when establishing a new plot?
Hey Jeff, northwest Wisconsin here. It's been very dry this summer, I have 2 fall food plots I'm anxious to plant but they are pretty much dust right now. What should I do?
Hi Jeff, What is your early maturing corn/soybean blend or what is your mixture ratio? Thanks!
Can you plant winter rye on top of yard grass or do you have to til/ add soil on top of the grass to get it started?
Great video Jeff! I have smaller plots so I’m limited as far as planting brassicas on one half of the plots and an early season blend on the other half. Would winter rye be the best seed option to mix in with the sweet feast brassica if I’m not planting my plots half & half?
Hi Tate thanks a lot!
Overseeding rye 3-4 weeks later is great...but you never want to mix them at planting time.
Jeff is this the case where you have enough green food sources that the beans and corn start to complete the pyramid or will you be transferring away from your no till buckwheat method? Looks like you have the crimper arms on the packermaxx, how has that worked out for you?!
Jeff if I wanted an only rye plot how would I go about the second season. Knock it down when the seed head are full or seed new rye into the old while knocking it down and fully terminating with gly?
My buckwheat seems to be slow growing, only a 4-6”tall right now. Didn’t plant because of lack of rain. Will be planting probably early to mid August for fall. Should I just terminate the buckwheat now, or go ahead and wait to see how tall it gets? Really worried about a good fall crop. Doing brassica, peas, oats, later followed with rye. ?
How about rain. Lots of talf about planting in June & sometimes July. Most years we can not rely on rain after June until at least the end of August. Do you wait or take a chance? How much rain in the summer would be minimal for plots?
Can you use this method to plant brassica? I will have a bunch of rye coming up this spring from overseeding my plots last fall. I have a short growing season up in northern MN, so usually right before rye matures it's about time get brassica going.
So my corn is doing awful because of the drought here in North Dakota. Should I just leave the corn and hope for the best or spray it out and plant something else that’ll hopefully grow
I’m planning on using cereal rye as a cover crop to clover I’ll be planting this spring. When do you think the best time to plant the rye will be in southern Iowa? At what point would you spray it to focus on the clover? I have a packer maxx would it be better to roll it down or cut after the spraying? Would a weed eater work for cutting it?
Are the seeds heads on the rye edible for turkeys
Can you broadcast the soy beans into buckwheat and do the same thing compact it down on top the seed?
When would you put the winter rye out in zone 7?
What do you think about Minnesota deer regulations ? We finished an antler restriction recently.
Any tips on killing big bucks in kill plots In the woods about 200-300 yards away from houses and roads
If I can’t find oats to plant, is there something else to mix with the peas or should I plant heavier peas and top dress with rye later in the season. Love this channel!!
Hi Roland I would definitely do that...heavy peas and add rye later 👍
I planted peas yesterday
Question...
We have spent many years doing spring through summer plots with clover and clover mixes. We do rye, oats, chicory in fall.
We've been discussing the theory that we are wasting our time doing the spring and summer plots and that we should really just focus on starting a no till system for just the fall and winter plots.
Would it be worth it to continue the summer plots?
Typically it isn't worth it all unless trying to build a deer herd. It doesn't help the deer herd unless you are in the arid southwest and you have to spend a lot of resources to do so. The vast majority of the time it does more harm than good to both you and the local deer herd.
Jeff, i know people talk about iowa and kansas. How would you compare Wisconsin and minnesota to those two in terms of hunting designations? Whag do you specifically see in those two to draw you to them? Im simply
Looking to expand my adventures in the future. Im a Michigan hunter
Jeff I'm confused....if the annual rye is seeded out and you broadcast beans....why do u need to spray gly....I feel like I am missing something....I am no till and also trying to go no gly
When I asked another famous youtuber if I could broadcast my summer seeds into my standing oats and then cultipack it - he said no, the cultipacker won't terminate the oats , so , is he correct? Do I have to either spray the oats to kill them - or do I have to cut them like crimping does to kill them? Then I'm left with the question: Will seeds lying on the bent-over oats, will they just sprout up without being covered? sorry, but I'm getting very confusing info.
Hi Kristoff! It's easy to get conflicting info because most online deliver practices they heard from someone else, and then confuse the message because they lack the practical experience to properly deliver the message in the first place.
When it comes to seeding into oats or anything else, it boils down to how much debris is in the field...thatch, height of oats, wheat, etc. In the spring if the grain is short (under 10-12") you can seed into it easily, as the seed will all get to the soil. Then, there isn't enough grain debris or shading to prohibit germination and growth. BUT, you just have to spray Glyphosate on the weeds to kill it. You can do this with even tiny seeds like clover, birdsfoot trefoil, chicory, etc. with taller grain like 18"-2', you can seed big seeds into like beans, and then spray and kill. You can even mow it down over the seeds if your mower doesn't clump.
If it's later in the summer and the grain is 3-4' tall with a viable seed head...you are in trouble. The best thing to do there is till, wait for germination of the grain seed head for 2-4weeks, then kill and plant.
You have to get seed on soil and sun to the germinating seed after rain. Many different ways to skin a cat 😊
Keep in mind too, some may tell you that you have to crimp, because they may be partnered with a company that sells expensive crimpers. Let the buyer beware when it comes to online deer habitat and hunting advice...
I hope that helps!
I live in northern Idaho. Planted 10 acres winter rye last September 2020. We have NOT had a rain since mid May and probably will not getting any rain until early/mid September
(that's normal),last year we did NOT get rain until early October.
It is weed free and fully mature. Should I mow it in September or leave it standing? Any ideas? thanks... Love you videos, but some things you do would not work here. Too dry!
Wow, was that an albino deer at the beginning? You don’t see that every day lol. Great channel and info!!
Funny you say that, are you not from WI? Albino are protected in WI, I see them all the time by the cabin in Northern WI and at my uncles place in middle WI...they seem to be getting more and more abundant in WI.
@@BowhuntingandFitnessTVwow, I live in southwest MI and have never seen one
Jeff, when do you apply the Plot start? After you’ve spread the fall food and smashed the buckwheat and sprayed the buckwheat?
Yes...perfect timing!
Thank you Jeff!!
Hi Jeff long time follower I hun5 in texas and need help establishing my rye I have amended the soil per the test recommendations but still have trouble getting it started do you have any advice for this hot dry areas
Thanks Chip
I have 5 food plots now about 1 1/2 each one of the 5 is a corn lot. I have zero farm lands around me with 10 miles my wife and I shot wall hangers last year after two years of doing plots. Our ground is realistic rocky and I’m sick of picking rocks. I spends every weekend and almost every night after work picking rocks. I’m ready to cover crop. It looks so easy and effortless. I bought my fall seeds for the two plots my wife and I hunt consist of rape, kale, radish and turnips. The other two i opened up this year I’m going to plant winter rye. I what are the steps I need to take for our hunting plots to start cover cropping? That’s a little bit of information in a nut shell.
Also I’m located in upstate New York
I hunt a private 200 acre farm in New Jersey and the owner doesn’t allow us to spray , what can I put down for food in this situation
Thanks for the info. I thought you prefer to grow the buckwheat and smash that then add rye later. If you or anybody can clarify why this is standing rye instead of buckwheat for your no till formula I would greatly appreciate it. God is good, good luck everybody this year
Hi Kyle! Just sharing what folks can do with leftover rye from last year...
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Jeff I'm a longtime listener and reader from eastern ontario. My 3/4 acre plot is low ph and a meadow I have treated with gly 3 times. I'll be planting cereal rye and would like to add something like clover, beans etc that will help fix nitrogen and improve soil health.
For poor quality low ph soil what would be a hearty plant to add with the rye to help improve soil? Thanks
SW Arkansas ,,,,, how well will AWPeas germinate and grow thru mature WRye cultipacked ?
Hey Jeff,
I took away all my summer food. However, I keep getting multiple pictures of 5-7 deer in the chemically sprayed fields.
I am scared they are going to eat my plots before they have a chance to grow this fall.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Roger
It's possible to put a fence around it, and then take it out, but I dont know if you want to do that.
Beautiful doe is that on your new farm?
I need help on figuring out my small parcel I don’t know where to start
So now you're broadcasting corn and it's growing?
may i ask where did you get your spraying outfit for your atv ?
Hi Carl! TSC
I sprayed a chunk of my yard and am planting in Winter Rye. I'll keep it mowed like a yard. Will it still die next year and need reseeding?
Yes. It is an annual plant. At some point you will cut off the lone growing point of the plant and it will die.
Jeff, how do you find corn does being broadcast like this under the rye? I want to try it mostly to beat the crows which are killing my corn plots. Thanks
Hi Jim! Marginal enough that I wouldn't do it again. Very little actual yield of corn. We got some...but not rnough
You won't eat the rye because of roundup but you'll feed it to your deer?
Hey I got a topo map of my property I hunt. If I label it will you take a look and see what u think
What does a roundup ready seed mean?
It means you can spray the plant from that seed with Glyphosate and it won't kill the plant.
I have an old pasture that’s basically crp just sprayed it a week ago. Would you just seed into that and roll the seeds in instead of working the soil?
Hi Trent...you have to make sure that there is enough seed to soil contact, so it really depends?
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 okay thanks. There’s a lot of grass so probably wouldn’t be enough seed to soil. Weather isn’t looking to great for fall plots again looks dry here again in southwest Wisconsin
@@trentvesbach4476 I had to cut my crp the first year after I sprayed because it didn't work great because I didn't have good seed to soil contact. And I I also had to rake it afterwards then burnt the piles before a rain. But following years I've followed his methods and it has saved so much time. That's probably the most impressive thing about Ultimate no Till is, man it's a time saver. And it works great.
I'm not following what the purpose is of planting beans, corn, peas, etc if the deer just destroy it. Why not just leave it all until the first of September, roll it, spray it and let it reseed? Am I missing something?
Good morning Jeff. If I had to plant my plots a week earlier than recommended ( say Brassicas in late July instead of early August or rye last week of aug instead of early September), what are some potential negative impacts?
Deer will destroy it!!! Happened to me last year. Deer ate it to the dirt in about 2 weeks . You will be using the winter rye to fill in the open fields.
Hey josh Paul here I also have land in upstate New York although you can be off a week or so regarding plantings in listening too Jeff probably safe too try and plant when he advises just saying I’ll be up there 1st week in August seeding my fall foodplot into the standing buckwheat then rolling over it also don’t neglect too spray glyphs if needed following day will add calcium/ plus fertilizer too soil started using liquids instead of granular been working for me if you live there you have an advantage by watching and trying too keep the deer off your plot so they don’t eat everything down too the dirt
@@rogerrose4573 Thanks Roger. Appreciate the input!
@@suzmell1 Thanks Paul. This is my 3rd year doing plots the "Sturgis Way" haha, and I've had great results. I had some availability this weekend to plant, crush my buckwheat and spray but I think I'll wait a few more weeks. Might as well stick with what works!! I appreciate your input!
The past two years I have done the buckwheat but because of drought has not done well. I always have rye coming up in spring. To save some time and frustration with failing buckwheat can I leave the rye and then early August plant brassicas into? Thanks for a great video
Unfortunately the rye will smother out the brassicas because it doesn't break down fast enough...
I realized this wasn’t for everybody when you said “I can improve the soil over decades.” I might not have a single decade
We need to figure out a way to do this without RoundUp. No point in venison filled with glyphosate. Great video though
Would be nice if possible! Unfortunately no at the moment until a better chemical comes along...
The amount of chemical sprayed food plots deer forage on makes up a small precent of what the deer actually consuming . If you're worried about deer eating chemical sprayed crops better not hunt anywhere near AG lands
@Whitetail Habitat Solutions could you not just crimp the rye to kill it?
What are rhye prices per pound in your area?
Hi Gabriel...I haven't actually checked this year..hopefully cheap 😁
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 lol same here! Im up in Ontario, Canada. I am just hedging my bets incase the brassica don't turn out like last year. Although, it looks like we are having a wetter summer all ready 👍
Just bought 600# $28/100# in Southern Michigan
@@therealgabrielcash last year bags were around $17/50lbs bag in Ontario. Got from my local coop
U DA MAN BROTHER 👀👀👀🔥💨🔪🇺🇸🔥💨
I thought you said soybeans are the number one worst plots to plant???? I'm a little confused. Don Higgins has said it's the number one plot I think you might know a little more about it than you do
Gly flavored seed 🤢.great advice lol
You lost me when you said roundup.
Hope you don't swallow the Kool aid 😉
Hope you don't swallow the Kool aid 😉
Don't eat the seed with roundup on it, but eat the deer that ate the seed with roundup on it.
Hunting made better through toxic chemicals...................geesh!
Those that don't use chemicals for food plots are just wasting their time, money and resources. Also not very smart either 😉
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 keep poisoning your land and deer, I don't care. I'm sure Bayer and Monsanto would be willing to sponsor your videos.
clearly sponsored by Monsanto