2024 KTM 250 Duke vs Honda CB300 [Your Questions]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Shumi and Kartikeya are answering the question of whether you should get the KTM 250 Duke 2024 or the Honda CB300, which received a major price cut recently in this clip from MotorInc First.
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MotorInc First is a discussion between experts Kartikeya Singhee and Shumi (Shubhabrata Marmar), co-founders of MotorInc on new vehicles. Each episode will discuss one vehicle in great detail, covering the experience of driving or riding it, as well as what it means for the industry.
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The 300R felt like a very special motorcycle because it resembled the feel that I get from my 2 stroke Yamaha RX. Its very light and rides so well!
Thanks for letting us know BB!
@@motorinc Honda India are being absolute idiots in not sending you a long termer cb300r. I think you guys will love it. It's the Lotus formula on 2 wheels, add lightness!
@@shawnh4528 Yes, It's awesome too!
Even I say this many times - RX of 4 stroke....
But i watched many review videos and each one has concluded that it has fair level of linear acceleration, with vibrations at high rpms ... it lacks top end performance and has less top speed so may be just ok in city ...considering 300 cc the power figures are also very low
You need to do a cb300... Everyone is praising the 286cc engine... Everyone is saying no vibes till 7k ... Smoothest engin in class... Your comments don't line up and you actually need to please test it out and let us know your thoughts after testing
You are absolutely right brother'.
Waiting for both F& R test bikes to come so we can do stories, Narendra!
@@motorincI think you need to source the bikes from elsewhere since honda is not offering test bike for media🥲
@@prof.purpur exactly... please do @motorinc. We rely on you and then the test ride... We have a framework to work with
@motorinc +1
I remember Shumi did a review video of the 300r. That made me consider the bike against the 390 and eventually I test rode both and choose the 300. If Honda decides to give out review bikes to journalists, they might actually see a spike in sales 😮💨
Thanks for letting us know! Glad you're enjoying your riding Floydian!
Guys i have tested both the bikes and brought home the CB300R. It is such an wonderful motorcycle to ride. Please do a impression video for it. This bike deserves your attention!!!
Awesome! Glad you're enjoying your riding Venky! We'll have stories once we get test bikes
i guess there wont b a story since honda wont send any test bikes 😂@@motorinc
absolutely peach of a ride. I've always doubted the other guy next to Shumi....how much he understands a motorcycle.
@@neilleleyeah, Kartikeya (sorry for the spelling mistake, if any) is a reviewer for cars overall, whereas Shumi is for bikes...🤷
Please review the Honda cb300r. I'm 99% sure Shumi is going to take back his words
We're happy to correct ourselves -- waiting for the test bikes to come Immanueliggi!
Ok look, Japanese brands are surprisingly weird. I had FZS for 4 years, loved it never crashed it and it was 200% solid on any turn thanks to the rear fat tyre. The moment I decided to go for Fz25, it was discontinued.
Same for Honda, they could've introduced CB250R but they haven't. 300F and 300R are reliable but they don't hit any bar to top in any of expertise area, fast, solid, comfortable, they are hitting each but not any one with 100%
for sure
When I was planning to buy a bike at the start of this year I did a LOT of test rides of various bikes and for most of them I didn’t have any strong reactions especially since most rides weren’t too long. I just felt ok at the end.
The CB300R was the one bike that when I got it out onto the road I instantly went WOW and I had a smile on my face throughout the ride. It was the only bike that had such an immediate and powerful impression on my from the ones that I rode. It was so responsive and manouverable, loved it
I think they misunderstood the cb300r to cb300f
300F is good too
i have the cb300r for the past 3 months. did a 500km ride yesterday. absolutely no fatigue. no vibrations. thee smoothest engine i’ve ridden. i’m thankful i didn’t buy the ktm 250. i was in the verge of buying one and out of the blue i tested cb300r and decided this is the one
Me too bro ...but never tested cb300r ..i just luv in this bike
@@aniketgopalmaneaniket4591 its a gem
Had the exact same experience. Bought a cb over a duke the first time I test drove it.
Duke 😂 250?.. Never compare it with a Honda.. CB300R I Love it .. CB300R something like small child having a rocket on its back! 😍😍
Got my 300r 4 days before and clocked 350 kms on it.
The things I noticed
Pros
1. Engine is Smooth.
2. Good control over vehicle.
3. Suspension
Cons.
1. Brakes dont have that much bite.
2. Seats are not comfortable. I found pillion seat is not getting locked properly and having some movement.
3. Quality issues (fibre grab rails tends to vibrate a lot and the lock automatically opened, brake light bolts came loose and created buzzy noise)
How's the bike now? did you fine any fixes for above mentioned cons?
Review Cb300r Too...
As soon as we can!
As well as CB300F
@@motorinchave u tried the cb 300r yet, and what do u think, is it better than d250
I am riding my cb300r for one year. It's engine is smoothest in its segments. Looks more premiums than viby speed 400 . only downside was its pricy. But Honda corrected it. Quite surprised that he does't take test drive yet ,but he tries to give opinion about 300R on the basis of some journalist opinion.what a joke.. Actually they are fond of viby speed 400, himi 450, ktms . CB300 R is purely street urban bike. Its so nimble in city traffic. No heating issue in city traffic.
These people won't find the good things.Pls tell them that no motorcycle is perfect.They complain about everything even about the chair they are sitting.
@@vishnuc1309yeah, cause if you ONLY wanna hear the good part, why even watching a review? Just go read the specsheet and watch all those paid "reviews" about it, and satisfy your fanism...simple🤷
Yess now we are living in our own made facts
They are paid enough to say this😂.
Another one, did you notice that guy's shirt? Do you see him wearing that in any other videos?
CB300R is really a gem 💎 and a jack of all trades. You can use it like a regular calm going commuter or rev it hard. It's hard to find such refined motorcycles. There are absolutely no vibrations even at 120kmph on a highway. You may need to upgrade to 10w40 grade fully synthetic for that. Recommended is 10w30 but if you are living in hotter climates and riding bumper to bumper traffic it helps to bump up from 10w30 to 10w40. There are very minor vibrations with stock oil at low rpms. Like around 3-4rpms. But, when you compare with new Duke 390, you feel no vibrations.
The engine is so capable and makes you feel that it lasts longer than any well maintained KTM. Engine likes to be ridden hard and if you don't, it feels a bit boring. Gears from 1-4 at higher rpms give you thrill filled ride with adequate torque.
The bike has definitely more to offer than what a beginner enthusiast wants.
CB 300R or CB 300F .... Needs clarification....because the vibration and power issue opinion as you mentioned by someone else points more to 300F(had checked many videos of both 300R and 300F but didn't remember anyone pointing out vibration issues on 300R.)
Waiting for both test bikes to come so we can do stories, Prince!
CB 300F is also a very good bike having a very punchy performance.....hondas having less power but great performance with that power
I took a test ride of CB300R with minimum vibrations, awesome handling & passed through a quite big pothole with pillion and I was surprised to see that it absorbed it like a pro and doesn't shaked or skid a mm. Rock solid stability. Planning to buy one 😊
Guys you are talking about the CB300F I guess CB300R is the most exciting bike to ride from the lot of 250cc to 300cc motorcycles.
Please address this!!
Waiting for both test bikes to come so we can do stories, Purusharth!
yes. only it's i.e CB 300F price is reduced if i am right.
exactly
Extremely nimble, a very good power to weight ratio (211bhp/tonne ), hardly any vibrations, smoothest engine in the segment and Honda's reliability made me choose the 300 and there hasn't been a single day where it fails to put a smile on my face. A pocket rocket.
Good to know about your garage! Thank you for letting us in!
CB 300R 2019 review in PD, where shumi praised the bike. I think he forgot!!
Guyz plz just don't draw a conclusion without riding it for once. In sub 300cc category segment, CB300R is one of the most fun ride motorcycle I've ridden in last 6-7 years. It gives vibes of bs3 motorcycles which is missing in bs6 era.
I disagree with you on this, CB300r is smooth , punchy, good handler , looks unique and nice. Only gripe for me is non existent pillion and it doesn't suite well for heavy riders . I wouldnt say it has no vibes (its freaking single cyl) , but less than any competition
Everyone is so high about punch KTM offers from 5k RPM and undermining machines which has linear power delivery
Thanks for sharing your perspective Siva!
So basically, everything in the video is opinion based on hearsay. C'mon guys, you don't need to be this salty because Honda did not invite you for test rides. Brings down the credibility of your otherwise good channel and content that you've been putting out.
I will buy you a coffee if you make the decision to buy Honda CB 300.... ITS A disgusting bike
@@April.Jackie23 Get the bike names right at least. There is no 'CB 300'. It is either the 'CB 300 R' or the 'CB 300 F'. Can you guess the one I already own? Hint: It is the cheaper one with a lot of c̶h̶a̶r̶a̶c̶t̶e̶r̶ vibration.
Just like we aren't taking your opinions to the heart @firstnamelastname5736, you shouldn't take ours either. If you can't bring yourself to trust us, please feel free to find a source that you can! All the best.
@@motorinc Sure but there is one difference. My opinions as a random person do not mean anything to anybody. But you are in a position of influence, so you owe it yourself to be prudent. I say this with no malice whatsoever. Cheers!
Hey man you need to try cb300r, I recently bought the CB300R after test riding many motorbikes and it has it's own fun and feel. It's the most enjoyable bike and also looks really good. The only drawback I found after purchasing it is the availability of accessories, there is no official accessories from Honda and hardly any good 3rd party accessories.
Congratulations Yatharth! Waiting for both F and R test bikes to come!
Thanks @@motorinc !
@@motorinc I would suggest to first try F and then the R, because once your ride the R you wouldn't want to go back to the F, although you know your job best but just a suggestion. Will be waiting for the review, please take your time, not sure what's up with the Honda India, not sending you the bikes earlier!
"Kind of dull" is the case with most Hondas it seems. I have a Hornet 160 myself and although it's my first bike, I find it fairly nice to ride. From the reviews and my own albeit limited experience, I find that Honda makes very no-nonsense bikes. Mine is fairly sedate at city speeds but gets a different character in the top-end. I imagine it might be a similar case to the 300.
Indeed! Good points yoaashay!
Shumi tested the ckd cb300 for powerdrift. And in this video shumi says he hasnt tested the bike. Why????
The bike’s changed since the CKD days Rijul. It’s not the same as before.
It looks weird to look, as the answer looks muffled
I absolutely love how there is not a single comment against the cb300r....I own one.....close to clocking 30k Kms on it, owned it for 2 years......NOT A SINGLE ISSUE, Still gives me the smiles!
Glad to hear that @joelmathew5986! Thanks for sharing.
The Honda doesn't Excel at anything, but does everything just enough to make you not worry about missing out and it is genuinely fun,
-a 2022 cb300r and a speed tripple rs
Just to let you know, the engine on the CB300R is shared with CBR300R & the CRF 300L & rally, and its a shame that Honda wants to design an ADV based on CB350 & not locally produce or CKD the 300L & rally when the ADV market in India is quite good given the players & popularity
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Genuine question... How come honda hasn't sent any of their bikes for you to review? Is there any reason cause I don't plan on buying any at all but I'd really love to hear shumi sing about Honda nx500!
No clue, Stixknight. They did tell is Mar'23 that they were reorganising some processes but nothing since then. We do believe the NX will come to us, we don't know when yet.
Have used the Honda CB300 for 2 years, without a doubt one of the best sub 300 CC motorcycle to own and ride. I loved it personally. You have to decide your preferences. It is a pure urban 2 wheeler which is nimble and easy to ride in our ever increasing traffic.
This doesn't do justice, I've rode 300r test vehicle and omg it was smooth/linear/fast. Perfect for city ❤
Thanks for sharing @elypsemusic8042
On the other hand the KTM 250 is a gem though i have not ridden it but i did rode the older model
That makes me think of asking a question to you @motorinc that would it be a wise decision to get a duke 390 or a svartpilen 401 as a second bike or should I exchange my 2019 350 classic for it
If you haven't tested the cb300r then why are you shitting about it here, first test then give the review...
Waiting for test bikes, both F and R in fact!
Hey, i just bought CB300R and also i had a test ride 300F , 300 R is very less viby than ktm. The things you are saying is more related to 300F . Because 300R is too light for 31 BHP it's really enjoyable
I tested this bike very refined bike with adequate power and reliable. Second gear 120.
Rtr310 standard? Or duke 250? …..which one I should buy?
Hey @ghostarmyff6686! We haven't tested the RTR310 yet (no word from TVS on test bikes yet either) so we can't comment on it. The Duke 250 - please do see all of our content on the bike. We do like it and find it easy to recommend. We suggest you get test rides on both and ping us? We can try and help you make a decision here in the comments.
It's a cruiser bike so such vibrations were common in that, Well I rode it "Dum hai gaadi m" ✔️
I'm not sure why Honda is not providing test bikes. After buying my Speed 400 I saw that many riders compared it to the CB300R. But in my 2-3 months of research before buying the Speed I had barely even heard of the CB300R.
If you guys had a CB review then I would've at least considered it.
Hey Abhi! Waiting for 300s F and R to come for stories 🤞🏽
Other TH-camrs were saying this because they considered price. Now it’s cheaper so it is best in price segment.
haha...i am unsubscribing this channel......the bike you underestimated here is the quickest in acceleration from 0 to 100 right behind the 390
its a gem of an engine.....Honda has done one right thing here is that they bought CB300R here
everyone praising it because of its performance and refinement....you people just throwing gatbage on it without even testing it😂
Safe and memorable rides Jubin!
The CB300R only downside for me is its splushy and spongy suspension which cannot let us extract it's full potential.
I think you may have confused the CB300F with the CB300R. Curious on your views on both the CBs.
Waiting for both F & R test bikes to come, TU
@motorinc After a lot of research and test rides i have booked my 1st bike which is Honda Hness? What are your thoughts about the bike?
Oh you're not gonna like this.... we don't recommend the Honda 350s at all. But do watch the latest episode of the podcast. Towards the end, Shumi makes a point that you need to understand
the cb300 is fast but it feels dull coz of ots acoustics and silent nature with muted grunt❤❤ in 2019 i went to buy grazia and they gave me the test ride for this cb300 , my wife on pillion seat complained of its sporty stance and even though it was very quick its gearing was not good and it stalled in lower gears often and yes it was way pricey back then now with just 300 units per month it survives barely
Thanks for letting us know HV!
Hi Shumi, quick question for you- do you think Honda rebel 500 will launch in India anytime soon??
Speculations are it might launch around (Q2-Q3) cycle 2024.
This is mini siblings cb650 inline better in all black and a update ☕is a waiting cup of coffee
Probably Honda never cared to pay them to buy positive reviews. That's why they are deliberately doing negative reviews of every Honda two-wheeler.
We are fiercely independent and we call it like we see it. There are no promotions, no sponsors, no affiliations and no hidden agenda at MotorInc. If you don’t trust us? We don’t want you in our audience.
@@motorincso one can't have his independent views ??
Disagreeing is okay, discussions are encouraged and accusations are not welcome.
@@motorinc with you guys on this one! Good going :)
@@motorincif you independent then what's stopping you from sourcing the bike from somewhere else? Buying a bike without watching your review feels like an incomplete experience now, haha
Cb300r is one of the best bike in its segment….Smooth like butter..just take a test drive n u will understand..The only problem i face is it’s horn button placement….
Shumi likes his KTMs very much. Love is blind , sometimes.
PS: i still like my CB200X and think it's better than many 200 cc bikes. But I really think Honda did not do enough.
Shumi- "enjoy the popcorn boyzz" from power drift cb300r video 😂......ckd unit
Going by how Honda treats it's anything bigger than 150cc, I'd be really hesitant buying from them. Parts and servicing is a massive problem with them. Shumi bhai is right, Honda is Activa, Shine and at best Unicorn 150.
MotorInc, you guys are doing a great job - you have a supporter in me for your boldly honest views.
Thank you NM!
Is it a good time to get a duke 250 now ? Has enough time passed after the first batch of faulty bikes for me to consider buying it now ?
I dont understand that you are believing on what people are saying.
You were the one who firstly tested the bike and then gave the review.
I dont know but trust me cb300r is way more efficient and usable than the duke 250.
Having top notch equipments and performance upto the redline doesn't make the bike great.
Cb300r is more practical than the duke 250.
Well, this answers my question. Save money for safety gear and buy the CB300F instead. No point taking the R if it's still vibey like the F, whilst having a smaller fuel tank!
Also, better mileage on the 300F is a good plus!
"Only the truth"; that tag really necessary? You have already earned it over all these years!
It's just a shirt, @Inazuma0801 😊
Why no content on CB300f, it looks like all content creators are neglecting it..which makes it either is it way better motorcycle or it is not worth spending time energy and money
I've heard honda doesn't give their test bikes to journalists for reviews. And I've also seen many youtubers who did make a review on that bike clearly stated that honda didn't give them test bikes and they had to arrange it from someone else (mostly bike owners)
What will be a idel decision between Himalayan 450 & Used KTM 390 Adv?😅
I believe the discussion was on 300F which matches with all the discussion point... 300R actually felt really much more powerful and raw than the Duke 250 because of its light weight... I test drove both the bikes back to back before selecting 300R... The 0 - 100 is where the magic is... It is really refined when compared with the D250... I enjoyed riding this bike just for the engine characteristics... Design is subjective anyway.... I am still waiting for you guys to test ride and get your perspective... Waiting.....
Thanks for sharing your perspective! We're waiting for both F and R (and the NX) to come right now, in fact
I'm pretty sure shumi didn't say this in the powerdrift video...
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I own 300r its a beast 💪 you know it's honda 😎 we cant even compare it with 250 😂.ride it first then come pls😅
Hi can I know why you are waiting for Honda to provide you long term CB300R I mean can't you guys get your hands on one if you wanted to
Requesting you guys if you could do session on Honda CB300R
Its a very nice bike. It sell without any ad just the mouth publicity. The only problem is the real seat height.
Hello guys, please please could you make a video about the top 3, 600+cc bikes to get in India ,in fared and naked formats? Thanks ❤
Please do a comparison between Royal enfield classic 350 and Honda Highness CB350
Can u pls review the bajaj pulsar rs200. I love ur content man . Keep doing the good work
Working on this. Xynox! Thank you!
Actually, it does become better. I believe there is no such thing as a bad product, just bad pricing, because you'd be getting so much for your money's worth. Think of it.
We see what you mean to say @albertmuziq8024 but does a bad product become a better one just because it costs less now? This isn't specific to any particular vehicle, just a general question.
CB 300R is a damn good product.. but the way Honda overpriced and corrected after taking a bit of time made people forget that it exists here to compete.. I wanted to buy one badly but got myself an RR310 for ocassional touring/weekend rides.
♥️ Congratulations!!
I own a CB300R 2019 model- One of the best Handling machines in its segment... I think even BMW 310R could not compete with CB300R handling....
I dont know for some reason, Shumi promotes (in fact exaggerate) only KTM....
Activa , Shine and Unicorn kept Honda alive. They won't listen and care to what moto bloggers or enthusiasts like.
What about the other CB.. CB300F? Most people forget that it's also on sale in honda bigwing.. Beautiful underrated bike ❤
A real enthusiast wouldn't wait for the motorcycle to be given to them to review ; real enthusiast would find a way to review the motorcycle in one way or the other
And we would probably have done it if we're really enthusiastic about said motorcycle @todaytrendz8375!
Any chance of a review on the new vitpilen 250?
Waiting for test bikes, Shytzer!
Sirs thank you. I am a big fan of your no nonsense honest and unbiased way of reviewing. You sirs are my go to people. Keep up the good work. All the best.
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
These two bikes were in my purchase list. For me brakes, lights big bike look and feel made me go eith duke 250. But i regret the lights now 🥲
Edit: Honda rare suspension gets week very fast also another reason i don't choose it
It's really good bike, I have one. Comfortable ride, sporty, vibrate only at high rpm. Awesome looks. Lightweight and handles well. Point and go stearing
"Kind of dull" - bullshit :D.
Acceleration feels like you stepped on a mine and i havent seen a 286cc engine power wheelie like this one.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Shumi, how about a maha comparison video for 300cc+ bikes priced less than 3lakh onroad:
"KTM Duke 250 Gen3 / Triumph Speed 400 / Harley X440 - Base & Mid variants / Hero Maverick 440 - All variants / Honda CB300R / TVS Apache RTR 310 - Base & Mid variants"
Pls feel free to add any other bikes/variants if I've missed it
There's no need to duplicate comments at MotorInc, @vzvish357. We see you. Here's what we said on your other comment:
No plan to make maha comparisons. At that point, we're adding to the confusion, rather than eliminating it. There's a far better way to deal with it - and that starts with you getting a test ride 😊
@@motorinc thanks :)
Feels more like the cbr250r.
which also feels slow in 2024.
But Realibilty 💯❤
Guys, please do sessions on big bikes as well 🙏🏻
Cb300r is like 1st gen dukes, light and peppy. Yet cb is smooth and reliable.
Try to source a CB300R from someone, have someone at MotorInc who does not have a prejudice on Honda ride it and share their opinion. CB300R is a very nice bike, light, quick on its feet, refined and a good, normal looking alternative to the very loud and flamboyantly dressed Duke 250.
rightly said
Conversation sounds more like that of the 300F rather than the R?
Waiting for both test bikes to come so we can do stories, Sagar!
Im getting the 300r
Can we have that "Only the truth" patch. Embroidered, velcro backed. Or even stickers for vehicles
Suggestion noted @analyst-karanbabar.
I think you're wrong on this front. Waiting for the cb300r review bcos i know that bike is excellent and punchy in comparison to duke 250
Waiting for a test bike for just over a year now, SS!
So much hate for honda in your podcasts... I wonder y???
Please review Rtr 310 vs other segment bikes
Awaiting details on test bikes, Abhishek!
They talking about 300f not 300r
Honda cb is a gem sadly they have to sell it through bigwings misses many place ktm has srore
If you people say cb300r is not good then you should stop doing videos about bikes
When are you reviewing the cb350, cb350 rs and highness? Come on motorinc
God bless y'all for a frank review
Honda thinks India needs only commuters
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I am sincerely still waiting for your cb300r review! Please consider this❤
Finally bought the cb300r and to be frank ktm is really really not as refined as honda engine for sure ! Bosss this bike is a hooligan and still runs butteryy smooth at 120kmph without even with a slight vibration wowwww !
Guys stop being salty and source Honda motorcycles from rental companies or ask your viewers
According to these guys no bike is better than nothing bike .. 😊😊😂
please simply walk to a showroom and do a test ride. Everyone sitting on the fence, please please do a test ride to know. Also, remember there are 2 bikes 300F and 300R..
Cb300f is a better option for 2 lakhs on road
Just posted my review of the cb300r on my channel and i think it is much better than the duke 250 and almost close to duke 390 if you want a no fuss reliable bike, my only problem with the 300r is the suspension tuning feels a bit rough and not comfortable for a bad road, brakes are amazing absolutely brilliant, the mid range is very special.... Wanna know more u can obviously checkout my review😂 i hope motorinc doesnt delete my comment.....
Thanks for sharing your experience. We are here to build a community and support it to grow. Comments are never deleted, people are blocked if they don't follow the guidelines.
It's much superior then ktm