Before the internet literally half the young population would go out on the weekend and dance all night at various forms of parties. Sometimes several thousand at one event. There was just a massive scene and everyone would talk to each other about music a lot, listen to the latest tracks, want to make something even better. You'd get records from all over the world being bought and played, must have been millions of people all across the world into dance music in the 90s.
C F bro I got robot ears lol my boys love it they are 13 and 15 they are both into production also, my wife every now and then will hear something she says she loves.
4:20 you nailed why sample based music making is so good. The act of sampling is actually fun and exciting. It is like fishing. You boringly dig through records until you "catch" something and find a sound that inspires you. From there, it is off to the races.
Nailing it at exactly 4:20 is a funny coincidence! Jokes aside, you also actually nailed it! It's like skateboarding, you know? Going around, seeing things differently, finding a sweet spot, and getting inspired!
Dude, I pulled out my original Modus Operandi cd the other day which I must've bought around the year 2000. I'm restoring an old Walkinshaw L200 pickup which has a 400w non Bluetooth stereo and decided to dig out my dusty old cd pack. After years of compressed Spotify streaming it sounded truly epic!
@@StevenJamesBurks The thing is as well, I knew someone doing this on an Amiga 500 in about 91 / 92. A lad on my estate who was about 4-5 years older than me. I was about 15 at the time. He was using a programme called Music X. Wish I'd have got into it then but I was heavily into skateboarding at the time and didn't really consider myself musical but I am.
well. yeah I do get why does he says a decade ago.. have you seen the prices of that equipment nowadays? like 10 years ago it was a way to start making music on the cheap and to get that 90s sound all in one package.. nowadays EVERYTHING is labeled vintage and commands like 10 times the price it had just 10 years ago.. it is ridiculous.
@@viejaastral Something came out 5 years ago and it's already vintage these days it seems. It's good that there's so much nice stuff on the market now though, and new prices for synths isn't the worst nowadays either.
Ok, had to stop the video at 13:55 'cause I was smiling so much. Big ups to Pete Cannon for replaying 808 State's "Pacific". That was a huge track back in the day in my native Detroit (specifically, the Pacific 0101 variant). I still have my Tommy Boy copy on vinyl with "For A List DJ's Only" stamped on it.
Back in the middle 90's when I obviously could not afford an AKAI sampler, I got the 8 bit one for my Amiga, and my usual trick was to first record from the source I want to sample to tape, in long play mode, and then I would put the tape in a player which did not support the long play function - it would then play out slower, I would sample it like that and then play with high pitch notes to get back to the real sample tune, but with much better sample resolution lol, same applied to sampling 45's at 33 rpm :)
I remember doin that when I had a 2sec sampler on a keyboard. Record at 45rpm and + 8, edit outside of the sampler. Then record in. Play on a lower key and boom u have your sample and used less memory of the sampler :)))
I used to do something similar. My Amiga sampler could only go up to about 24khz without the sound breaking up. If I sampled 45rpm vinyl at 33 I could pitch it back up and get a bit more fidelity
@@TheBizzyBScience Nooooo! Everything I made when I was 14 had that high-pitched whistle over the top. Still, the technique Pawel mentions meant that the whistle got higher (less audible) when played back at correct pitch. I used to make my jungle at hip-hop tempo, recorded into a Fostex multi-track cassette recorder with vari-speed on slowest setting. Never knew what the tune sounded like until I finished it and played it back on my mum's stereo.
Rennaldo I also had a Casio keyboard with a sampler that would do like 2 second samples. I would grab samples from cassettes by using a boombox with dual cassettes. I would set the tape to play using the high speed dub mode and sample it onto the keyboard. Then use the lower keys to play the sample at the original speed. It was very lofi quality but at 10 years old i was just happy to be able make loops and stuff.
OCTAMED. Those were the days. A golden time. The limitations made us more resourceful, but now we have it all, and it's marvelous, but hard to get a vibe going.
This guy is me and I never got around to do doing what he has acheived! We used to haul our Amigas and Synths around to a mates house and sit in his kitchen at all hours! Armed with Sample cartridges, Atari STE's aswell BTW! we would create all sorts of stuff. This was from 1991 to 1995! they were bloody good days, we would record onto Tape and then bomb around in our mates tin-pot Ford Fiesta MK3 blaring whatever we had made.
It dominated not only the UK-dance music scene. Also in Holland this was everywhere. I danced my ass off and I also had octamed and the Amiga 500. After going out I stayed up, completely influenced by the music, and went to bed deep in the afternoon. Golden times!
It's great to see Pete Cannon doing what the pioneers used to do in Jungle. All of it is legit. I saw the TG500 in there. Akai S900/950 was a staple. Ensoniq EPS 16 as well as the JV1080 sound module was also used in our studio back in the days. Thanks for this trip back in time. To me it doesn't seem that long ago but reality is it was over quarter of a century ago.
@@TheBizzyBScience The S900's went along time ago in 1994. So did the Ensoniq EPS 16 in about 1997/98. Still have access to the TG500, Oberheim DX, Yamaha DX100, JV1080, MPC60, Two 8 track Alesis ADAT machines while the Tascam D20 DAT machine, Yamaha SK30, Logan String Melody II, Hammond B100, Yamaha CS10 and MPC2000XL are in my own personal studio.
The program he is using is called a mod tracker. They are older than DAWs, but they are still extremely useful! The work flow is different, but I'd say it's actually better for music that uses a lot of samples, and ESPECIALLY jungle music! What makes them so powerful is you can quickly chop a part of a sample that you want, and you use keyboard shortcuts to place in the notes, instead of using a piano roll. If you want a modern mod tracker, you should get Renoise! Or if you don't want to pay for it, OpenMPT is also very good!
The special sauce is a lack of options. Limitations are very underrated as a tool for creativity--people don't know what they're missing with a fully-loaded daw with 1000 VSTs
@@imDezrt you're goddamn right, im too young to ever have had these things cuz i was born in 97 lol, but when i started making music i had the most basic version of fl studio or i guess it was still called fruity loops lol. and not having acces to even normal synthesizers forced me to learn how they actually worked instead of just using some random preset and i'm actually glad i learned synthesis that way.
I'm 45 and spent most of my late teens on octamed writing D&B and breakbeat. Gonna have to dig out the amiga from the attic and recreate the oldskool again! Cheers for the wicked (junglist massive) video!
Of all the music I've listened to during my 40 years on this planet it is Jungle that I have remained most in awe of. What a sound. I just figured the OGs were magicians.
Absolutely incredible video!! I love all music but jungle does something to my soul. Nothing else compares. I wish I was old enough to have experienced it in real time, but I thank my big brothers for filling the house with it every day when I was growing up!!
A module like this should be taught on all music production courses: The Appreciation Module (How hard it was, and how easy you have it now). Great demo and trip down memory lane thank you!
Word. We did something very similar on my Animation degree course: Making a 30 second stop-motion animation for an advert. Took a team of 6 of us two whole weeks to do a simple animation centred around two clay characters!
absolutely awesome. this just shows how differently they had to work back in the day to make this great music. God bless you Pete Cannon for sharing this and reviving 1992. very cool tour of the old samplers and gear. Octamed was classic
@@mano123456 Well anything can be a mindfulness meditation I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend my meditation time on a cushion or drinking tea given the option.
Follow him on Twitter he's always releasing clips of him raving out to new jungle tracks he's working on. That's what put him on my radar and I'm so glad this long form masterpiece just showed up on my feed.
A GARGATUAN amount of Jungle knowledge in a relatively small/short video! Shows you HOW and WHERE a lot of the samples originate from. Most know the Amen, but the sample mod/chop/stretch/delay and, hell, ALL those are done! Masterclass vid. I learned more about production of this genre in less than 30 mins than I've learned in sooooo many Ableton Live and FLoops vids I've watched in the last month! Props mate!
THIS blew my mind. I spent so much time on amigas sampling. i think the demo scene and the music from it, was such a large part of the dance scene that never gets mentioned.
I'm absolutely in LOVE with the Amiga Demoscene, I have hundreds of examples of top Amiga music from it myself, but it is quite an unknown resource for computer music. I think they like it that way.
This video takes me back to '97 writing a whole album using Cubase 1 on an Atari ST with an Ensoniq ASR10 and a Technics WSA1. Thanks for the memories 😁👍
Interesting video mon ami from a bloke who was writing MIDI sketches back in the day for The Pet Shop Boys using a Commodore 64 running Steinberg PRO-16. To date this remains the fastest way for me to do this. Such a joy to use. My floppy became corrupt once (not a euphemism) `and I phoned Steinberg, they were SO SHOCKED anyone was still using it they sent me a new Disk with a Get Well Soon card (TRUE STORY). This EXCEPTIONAL service was the reason why when in 2002 I was able to set up a proper-studio I remained loyal to Cubase and bought the best that money could buy, but I didn't get on with it at all, not at all user-friendly or at all conducive to dumping an idea down really quick whist the inspiration is still in the air. But still using the C64 for MIDI moments of madness though. Best wishes folks from me (and all the mice in the studio).
This is literally how I grew up in the early 90s, Atari Cubase S1100, 2 x S950 , Casio FZ10M and a Kong M1 and Roland SH09 for Bass. Made hundreds of records that way from 90-96 . . This is proper trip down memory lane
Put out a few tunes in the early 90s myself, s950, Juno 106, roland u20, some ensoniq thing I can't remember, ry30 drum machine and a roland mc50 mkii hw seq. Never got paid for them, but copies go for 70 quid on Discogs now grrr..
never had an Amiga, but loved messing around with DOS apps like Screamtracker and Fasttracker back in the day...Respect to all the folks who made awesome tunes on the old hardware/software! \m/
Those tracks he played on the turntable sounded fresher than any shit I have heard recently. People who buy into all this fancy gear really have no idea. Pete proves that here.
i was in my teens and had a Amiga 1200 in the early 90s and was really into jungle. never knew it could do this till years later. it was mainly used for sensible soccer and lemmings
Not just about the hardware and techniques though. Pete Cannon truly knows this music and how to put it together ... every track has the vibe down pat and the imagination on the drum edits etc. is outstanding.
This vid right here is heaven for the old geezer I have now become...(47) But it really shows how the workflow and creativity have now changed...the process was way different back then. Shopping for 1$ vinyls at the flea markets, then the long sampling and editing sessions to make yourself a bank...wasn't too long to fill a floppy disk on my 950 but when I finally got Zip disk via SCSI on my Emu 64 that was something else. I remember clearly sampling some rather soft kicks from some 60's record only to have them come out super hard trough the AD converters from the 950. Man I swear nothing sampled like these old Akai's for hard knocking compressed sounds.
Great to see and hear the good old gear still doing it's thing. Was heavily involved in early rave scene and used to make samplers & hardware for others. Was so much fun from around 1987 to 1997 , built a helluva lot of hardware in the early days of MIDI until around 2000 by which time I shifted my focus to video production. Watched this video and have just dusted off the old OctaMED and am now going to dive into the old archive discs from back in the day. already see a stack of classic rave, jungle, breakbeat & house goodies that will no doubt confuse the heck out the rest of the village as I give it plenty with the ol' tunes.. Inspired by Pete getting the old gear out I can see it is going to get noisy in here !.. Might even copy a bunch of the old samples into the modular synth sample sequencer module and knock together some new stuff with 30+ year old samples .. BRILLIANT !
Yes, this did my heart well. Dude is true head for the music and is now a historian and preservationist for the process as well. Very cool stuff all around. P.S. If you like making 8-bit, 4 ch. Jungle, the PO-33 KO pocket sized sampler from Teenage Engineering is absolutely killer for old school Jungle.
OctaMED 4 was definitely free with CU Amiga. I had it myself. Amazing software. So nice to see it being used today. Now I'll have to dig out my Amiga 500.
What a stellar video - full of vibe, nostalgia and great fun tunes that remind me of being 16 years old riding around on my 50cc motorbike and listening to those sounds on my mates decks... And, of course, having a bit of a smoke!
IMO if you want to make something that sounds retro, its more important to replicate the workflow (like Pete does) than just simulate the sounds wih a plugin.
The swing settings on the Atari are a legendary part of the vibe. People held onto Atari based setups long after they were obsolete as a home computer, because they felt the swing was better, and the midi timing was tighter because it was built in.
Atari has a unique OS which makes it very tight. Whichever programming is running takes over the whole computer. That's why atari st is still tighter than even new computers (according to some ppl). Hardware sounds different because of the analog signal flow. Plus each piece of kit has its own sound, and its about the da converters and many discrete parts, interactive, real/physical parts, all of which give hardware character which is hard to emulate on a computer. It's not so much about the "algorhythm" that the old samplers used.
@@sumocloud Yes I agree there are lots of variables in the soundpath also, but IMO what really makes something sound oldschool is having to record it the old way: with maybe an old sequencer like the Yamaha RM1X, a couple of samplers, a couple of synths, patching it all with midi, having to record knobs live, etc. The workflow is so different than using a DAW. In my studio I have both DAW and a Yamaha RS7000 to chose from :)
The 'warm sound' every one talks about is just down to the fact that we weren't completing cutting out frequency bands using EQ plugins like everyone does now. You would just tweak on a Mackie board. The mixes were muddied/warmer. Also used to use the Akai LPF a lot, which adds warmth.
I used to use octamed back in the day but using the built in sampler. I remember when the memory got low it wouldnt let you trim the start of the sample so we had to reverse the sample so the start was at the end,it would let you trim the end and then re-reverse it again to normal........was a ball ache but work around lol
The deepmind does that really well. It does all of the synth sounds this video makes, but I use others too lol. But specifically, it has a chord button.
Or you can just sample and loop the chord, and pitch it around in your sampler. That's the way I always did it, and I always assumed that's how everyone else did it too up until I saw this video haha
Oh this takes me back. I used an Amiga in the very early 90's. It was like a Fairlight for kids with limited resources. Started with Octamed and later got Music X, a Roland D10 and an Ensoniq Mirage. A Tascam four track and a sync unit. It seems I had more complete results with that, than with my modern Cubase setup. I think the limitations made people try a bit harder, structurally.
fantastic video. i began producing in the late 90s/early 2000s and only ever used software. seeing this is a real eye opener for how some of my favourite tunes from back in the day were made. thanks for making this
These old tracker programs are the way forward, it's exactly what's missing in music today. There is somthing about them, I don't know what it is, but I live the sound/feel of old records made using these.
I was barely a teenager when all this was going on but I remember reading Future Music magazine and wanting an Akai sampler... No way would I have had the patience to deal with all that!
I dunno about you, but this music makes my jaws clench and eyes roll into the back of my head. In all seriousness, these kinds of tracks brought me back to my youth. thank you for sharing this.
When he started playing 808 state and then made the noise with his mouth, had me rolling - absolutely wicked video and pete seems so enthusiastic about stuff
I loved this! Had the Akai, Roland S10 sampler, Tascam Portastudio mkII 414, 3 x 1200s, reel2reel (straight from the pawn shop!), and most importantly my Voyetra Sequencer Plus Gold. Added an SY22, Proteus and R8, but that was my setup for house music all night long! Thank you for bringing those memories to the forefront.Some of my happiest times...
Oh my god yeah this is the business! I had an ST and an STE in the 90s, actually made some tracker type tunes with a program called Quartet, a simple 4 track sampler. Massively into 'rave', and after that jungle and DnB. This is like heaven! Wicked stuff! ... Is jungle making a comeback 'cos if it is I'm there!
One word here: *awesome* ! Thank you so much to Pete Cannon for coming up with these killer beats and to SOS Magazine for making the film and posting it here. 🙏🙏🙏
Was really nice to see how it was done, MASSIVE RESTEPA. SERIOUSLY, BIG RESPECT MANY OF US NOW CREATE THIS MUSIC WITH EASE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY AND NEED TO APPRECIATE. WAS NICE TO KICK BACK CLOSE MY EYES AND ENJOY.
I used to use Bars and Pipes for Amiga MIDI sequencing. It's still unequaled in my experience in terms of how you can drop in tools into the MIDI pipeline. So you could add a chord tool into the pipeline between the MIDI IN and the sequencer, play chords using a single key and record it into the sequencer. Then if you wanted transpose it in realtime on the output pipeline. Then there were tools for realtime quantise, MIDI echos and all sorts. You could audition them in realtime and then if you were happy, apply them to the track. Everything else I've used since has been fiddly and required manually selecting and applying things to the tracks. B&P worked well on a 14Mhz Amiga with 2MB of RAM so why can't my 3.4Ghz 16GB PC handle it? it can, but nobody can be bothered to change how things work to make them work nicer.
This is Quality. Timeless- machines made in 80th and 90th got so good quality and a kind of great workflow in a kind of limited "frame" in a positive ceative way.
@@V_A_N_C_E I'd say it's the immediacy and the ease of editing. It's basically a sampler synth with a built in sequencer. With the older trackers it's none of the opening a project, creating channels, routing this and that. It's just load a sample and go, start doodling.
Bro! I'm 42, still into making music and you - you lovely maniac - just made me install an (emulated) FT2 - Fast Tracker 2. Fock me, did we squeeze the hell out of that! Thank you SO much!!!
Sample him saying a word ending in "p" and you got a great kick.
uPPPPP
Mr OPpp
🤣
This is exactly what i did today! And it turned out to be MASSIVE!
@@shnixbot its not massive… its Passive 🌝
playing the 808 state horn by mouth is worth the whole vid, although the whole thing is really dope
i sang along and did it with him hahaha
I sang along too haha
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What song was he humming to? Edit: Found it. 808 State - Pacific State.
That was indeed awesome. I love this guy!
Pete is full of ability and enthusiasm without a hint of ego, a rare combination of positive energy.
Yeah he's the don
@@witchdoctorwise You're replying to the don...Mr Ron Wells
Ok!
The old skool way
@@SirBoycie A Don for sure!! There is no 'The Don'
Super interesting - how anyone learned these techniques pre-internet is nuts.
Word of mouth, trial and error, and passion for the music!
Plus they would listen to other tracks and could tell what techniques they were utilized or creating.
Before the internet literally half the young population would go out on the weekend and dance all night at various forms of parties. Sometimes several thousand at one event. There was just a massive scene and everyone would talk to each other about music a lot, listen to the latest tracks, want to make something even better. You'd get records from all over the world being bought and played, must have been millions of people all across the world into dance music in the 90s.
@@dunk8157 People still do that just as they always did.
was called a magazine
I’m 42 and have been doing this since mid 90’s and have still never showed anyone but my wife my music.
The Mayor well get a distrokid account and get started dude!
And what did your wife think of it?
C F bro I got robot ears lol my boys love it they are 13 and 15 they are both into production also, my wife every now and then will hear something she says she loves.
MrFrankthefink I need to do something if it’s coming full circle.
release it bro why not
4:20 you nailed why sample based music making is so good. The act of sampling is actually fun and exciting. It is like fishing. You boringly dig through records until you "catch" something and find a sound that inspires you. From there, it is off to the races.
That jumped out at me. I understand the irony of "original sounds," but I like music like that.
@@iNuchalHead Like Dj Shadow's Endtroducing.
… or the Crown Court … when you get screwed for copywrite theft 😢 … Lawyers and greedy record labels ruined the FREEDOM and ‘art’ of cut-up sampling!
Nailing it at exactly 4:20 is a funny coincidence! Jokes aside, you also actually nailed it! It's like skateboarding, you know? Going around, seeing things differently, finding a sweet spot, and getting inspired!
I was introduced to Photek literally only last year, im 26, and became obsessed w/ how this music is created.
Same! They were light-years ahead of rap production here in the U.S.
Dude, I pulled out my original Modus Operandi cd the other day which I must've bought around the year 2000. I'm restoring an old Walkinshaw L200 pickup which has a 400w non Bluetooth stereo and decided to dig out my dusty old cd pack. After years of compressed Spotify streaming it sounded truly epic!
@@Drone453 get the flac for photek jfc
Photek was the don
Since #wipeoutsoundtrack #thirdsequence I'm a Photek fanboy...
I’m 15 and I bought an akai s2000 because of watching this video!
Big ups Pete! Ur my biggest inspiration in music!
Happy sampling dude 👍🏽
Cool if you can find an s1000 you will be amazed
Woulda killed for this vid a decade ago lol
Woulda killed for the knowledge of how this was put together and the equipment 27 years ago lol!
@@StevenJamesBurks The thing is as well, I knew someone doing this on an Amiga 500 in about 91 / 92. A lad on my estate who was about 4-5 years older than me. I was about 15 at the time. He was using a programme called Music X. Wish I'd have got into it then but I was heavily into skateboarding at the time and didn't really consider myself musical but I am.
well. yeah I do get why does he says a decade ago.. have you seen the prices of that equipment nowadays? like 10 years ago it was a way to start making music on the cheap and to get that 90s sound all in one package.. nowadays EVERYTHING is labeled vintage and commands like 10 times the price it had just 10 years ago.. it is ridiculous.
@@viejaastral Something came out 5 years ago and it's already vintage these days it seems. It's good that there's so much nice stuff on the market now though, and new prices for synths isn't the worst nowadays either.
Ok, had to stop the video at 13:55 'cause I was smiling so much. Big ups to Pete Cannon for replaying 808 State's "Pacific". That was a huge track back in the day in my native Detroit (specifically, the Pacific 0101 variant). I still have my Tommy Boy copy on vinyl with "For A List DJ's Only" stamped on it.
Back in the middle 90's when I obviously could not afford an AKAI sampler, I got the 8 bit one for my Amiga, and my usual trick was to first record from the source I want to sample to tape, in long play mode, and then I would put the tape in a player which did not support the long play function - it would then play out slower, I would sample it like that and then play with high pitch notes to get back to the real sample tune, but with much better sample resolution lol, same applied to sampling 45's at 33 rpm :)
I remember doin that when I had a 2sec sampler on a keyboard. Record at 45rpm and + 8, edit outside of the sampler. Then record in. Play on a lower key and boom u have your sample and used less memory of the sampler :)))
I used to do something similar. My Amiga sampler could only go up to about 24khz without the sound breaking up. If I sampled 45rpm vinyl at 33 I could pitch it back up and get a bit more fidelity
@@TheBizzyBScience Nooooo! Everything I made when I was 14 had that high-pitched whistle over the top. Still, the technique Pawel mentions meant that the whistle got higher (less audible) when played back at correct pitch. I used to make my jungle at hip-hop tempo, recorded into a Fostex multi-track cassette recorder with vari-speed on slowest setting. Never knew what the tune sounded like until I finished it and played it back on my mum's stereo.
Woha, that was clever!
Rennaldo I also had a Casio keyboard with a sampler that would do like 2 second samples. I would grab samples from cassettes by using a boombox with dual cassettes. I would set the tape to play using the high speed dub mode and sample it onto the keyboard. Then use the lower keys to play the sample at the original speed. It was very lofi quality but at 10 years old i was just happy to be able make loops and stuff.
OCTAMED.
Those were the days. A golden time.
The limitations made us more resourceful, but now we have it all, and it's marvelous, but hard to get a vibe going.
That bit where he did 808 state was epic! Proper grin on my face 😁
It might of been a casio that was played on it as in yer face video u see a casio
hahaha the mouth sax and his hand gestures are fuken amazing
This guy is me and I never got around to do doing what he has acheived! We used to haul our Amigas and Synths around to a mates house and sit in his kitchen at all hours! Armed with Sample cartridges, Atari STE's aswell BTW! we would create all sorts of stuff. This was from 1991 to 1995! they were bloody good days, we would record onto Tape and then bomb around in our mates tin-pot Ford Fiesta MK3 blaring whatever we had made.
You should share those recordings, if you still have 'em. I'd love to hear.
This is what its all about man I'm doing the same shit today
I still can't make this music today and I'm '78! You guys shaped it!
You know that! I had an STE withe Cubase and the ugly Atari monitor....and a Yamaha A3000.... It took fkin ages to do anything though
@@gracedbypete I'm 49 and just got back into all this. Shouldn't of stop it....
This is like Time Team, but for ravers.
That just makes me picture Time Team in a few hundred years, excavating fields and finding nos canisters and baggies left over from raves 😂
Hey Phil, what you recon that is?,, "oh theres a right beauty that 'is, it's an electribe of some sort... looks like an ES" [rakes ground ]
Great comment, bravo 👍
That made me chuckle
This shit is antique
It dominated not only the UK-dance music scene. Also in Holland this was everywhere.
I danced my ass off and I also had octamed and the Amiga 500.
After going out I stayed up, completely influenced by the music, and went to bed deep in the afternoon.
Golden times!
perhaps one of the best things on the world wide web right now.
agree!
>world wide web
haven't heard this term in a while
You just have to love the SOS crew for this. This video is not just entertainment - it shows some important cultural heritage.
Fantastic history lesson and end result.
Having never made music this way it's really fascinating. A proper craft.
It's easy to get into this way of making music... if you have the right kind of mind :3
seeing a vid about jungle getting a ton of views will always bring a smile to my face
It's great to see Pete Cannon doing what the pioneers used to do in Jungle. All of it is legit. I saw the TG500 in there. Akai S900/950 was a staple. Ensoniq EPS 16 as well as the JV1080 sound module was also used in our studio back in the days. Thanks for this trip back in time. To me it doesn't seem that long ago but reality is it was over quarter of a century ago.
@@TheBizzyBScience The S900's went along time ago in 1994. So did the Ensoniq EPS 16 in about 1997/98. Still have access to the TG500, Oberheim DX, Yamaha DX100, JV1080, MPC60, Two 8 track Alesis ADAT machines while the Tascam D20 DAT machine, Yamaha SK30, Logan String Melody II, Hammond B100, Yamaha CS10 and MPC2000XL are in my own personal studio.
@@TheBizzyBScience by the way I see you're a Junglist right? Nice channel. Subbed.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio did you just :O LOOOOOOOOOL
The program he is using is called a mod tracker. They are older than DAWs, but they are still extremely useful! The work flow is different, but I'd say it's actually better for music that uses a lot of samples, and ESPECIALLY jungle music! What makes them so powerful is you can quickly chop a part of a sample that you want, and you use keyboard shortcuts to place in the notes, instead of using a piano roll. If you want a modern mod tracker, you should get Renoise! Or if you don't want to pay for it, OpenMPT is also very good!
They actually have fully hardware trackers now, which blows my damn mind. The Polyend tracker.
Milky tracker is pretty good and free
They are called just "Trackers"
You can’t beat this original sound, it just has that something special that’s hard to recreate with modern gear.
The special sauce is a lack of options. Limitations are very underrated as a tool for creativity--people don't know what they're missing with a fully-loaded daw with 1000 VSTs
use cassette or adat. cheap way to get some analog color to your stems or mixbus.
Dezrt that’s why I like tape.
@@beigela DAT is digital...
@@imDezrt you're goddamn right, im too young to ever have had these things cuz i was born in 97 lol, but when i started making music i had the most basic version of fl studio or i guess it was still called fruity loops lol. and not having acces to even normal synthesizers forced me to learn how they actually worked instead of just using some random preset and i'm actually glad i learned synthesis that way.
I'm 45 and spent most of my late teens on octamed writing D&B and breakbeat. Gonna have to dig out the amiga from the attic and recreate the oldskool again! Cheers for the wicked (junglist massive) video!
Me too...Even have some of the original disks which I use on the Amiga emulator UAE on PC.
Jesus! This is one of the most interesting music vids I've seen in a LONG time. Wish it was 2 hours long
He's having so much fun that its impossible not to vibe with him! True playa!
I assume someone has already sampled "Sounds crispy to me..." by now. I truly hope so.
mate i was just about to comment THAT!
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I’m gonna do that later and time stretch it on my akai s2000!
Of all the music I've listened to during my 40 years on this planet it is Jungle that I have remained most in awe of. What a sound. I just figured the OGs were magicians.
The respect Pete has for the scene is reflected in the respect we have for him.
Absolutely incredible video!! I love all music but jungle does something to my soul. Nothing else compares. I wish I was old enough to have experienced it in real time, but I thank my big brothers for filling the house with it every day when I was growing up!!
Does something to my soul too. Jungle music wakes up parts of my inner being and lets them connect and rejoice.
A module like this should be taught on all music production courses: The Appreciation Module (How hard it was, and how easy you have it now). Great demo and trip down memory lane thank you!
Word. We did something very similar on my Animation degree course: Making a 30 second stop-motion animation for an advert. Took a team of 6 of us two whole weeks to do a simple animation centred around two clay characters!
absolutely awesome. this just shows how differently they had to work back in the day to make this great music. God bless you Pete Cannon for sharing this and reviving 1992. very cool tour of the old samplers and gear. Octamed was classic
Every time I get nostalgic for old samplers I remember the loading time.
Definitely. And the floppy disc OS
I find the experience meditative. The complete disconnect from mouse/keyboard and starring at screens is worth the effort.
@@mano123456 Well anything can be a mindfulness meditation I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend my meditation time on a cushion or drinking tea given the option.
@@robertsyrett1992 fair enough! The time travel aspect is a big thing for me. Call it a palette cleanser from the "real" world
@@mano123456 That's definitely part of why I use a modular!
wow that boy really knows his stuff. No device too irritating, patience of an angel and great taste to boot
Have never known this guy, but he is way too cool!
Pete is a don. ya need to check out his recordings
Follow him on Twitter he's always releasing clips of him raving out to new jungle tracks he's working on. That's what put him on my radar and I'm so glad this long form masterpiece just showed up on my feed.
I only know cannon for his production in UK Hip Hop. Never knew he was a jungle producer.
@@andrewbryce2707 but even from his hip-hop beats one can feel jungle influence
A GARGATUAN amount of Jungle knowledge in a relatively small/short video! Shows you HOW and WHERE a lot of the samples originate from. Most know the Amen, but the sample mod/chop/stretch/delay and, hell, ALL those are done! Masterclass vid. I learned more about production of this genre in less than 30 mins than I've learned in sooooo many Ableton Live and FLoops vids I've watched in the last month! Props mate!
Thank you, SOS for featuring our SampleX plugin :)
- Beatskillz Team.
THIS blew my mind. I spent so much time on amigas sampling. i think the demo scene and the music from it, was such a large part of the dance scene that never gets mentioned.
I'm absolutely in LOVE with the Amiga Demoscene, I have hundreds of examples of top Amiga music from it myself, but it is quite an unknown resource for computer music. I think they like it that way.
See I never had an idea, I thought mod trackers were only used for demo music and games, I had no idea it was used in major releases and the like!
This video takes me back to '97 writing a whole album using Cubase 1 on an Atari ST with an Ensoniq ASR10 and a Technics WSA1. Thanks for the memories 😁👍
Interesting video mon ami from a bloke who was writing MIDI sketches back in the day for The Pet Shop Boys using a Commodore 64 running Steinberg PRO-16. To date this remains the fastest way for me to do this. Such a joy to use. My floppy became corrupt once (not a euphemism) `and I phoned Steinberg, they were SO SHOCKED anyone was still using it they sent me a new Disk with a Get Well Soon card (TRUE STORY).
This EXCEPTIONAL service was the reason why when in 2002 I was able to set up a proper-studio I remained loyal to Cubase and bought the best that money could buy, but I didn't get on with it at all, not at all user-friendly or at all conducive to dumping an idea down really quick whist the inspiration is still in the air.
But still using the C64 for MIDI moments of madness though.
Best wishes folks from me (and all the mice in the studio).
This is literally how I grew up in the early 90s, Atari Cubase S1100, 2 x S950 , Casio FZ10M and a Kong M1 and Roland SH09 for Bass.
Made hundreds of records that way from 90-96 . . This is proper trip down memory lane
Put out a few tunes in the early 90s myself, s950, Juno 106, roland u20, some ensoniq thing I can't remember, ry30 drum machine and a roland mc50 mkii hw seq. Never got paid for them, but copies go for 70 quid on Discogs now grrr..
Can I hear your jams?
@@kristianTV1974 what was your alias?
He's so passionate about all his samplers and kit, its great to see
never had an Amiga, but loved messing around with DOS apps like Screamtracker and Fasttracker back in the day...Respect to all the folks who made awesome tunes on the old hardware/software! \m/
I LOVE the Amiga's unique sound from Paula, a versatile sound chip with PCM samples released in 1985!
Credit to SoS for creating this amazing documentation of the scene. Great art deserves to be preserved and documented.
Huge respect for this guy for doing what he does how he does, aand taking it to a different level imo
good too see you mate!
Those tracks he played on the turntable sounded fresher than any shit I have heard recently. People who buy into all this fancy gear really have no idea. Pete proves that here.
Watching TH-cam producer-people reacting to their own music is rarely other than uncomfortable, but David Lynch's lovechild here shows 'em the way.
Wouldn’t be much point of any of us musicians making it if we didn’t like it haha
I have been listening to this kind of music since about 93 and I always wondered how they made it. Cool stuff.
Ah, the sight of OctaMED; so nostalgic - used to love messing around with that and ProTracker on my Amiga
OKTALYZER for me ... With a sampler box a friend made for me... Memories...
@@mano123456same! Oktalyzer + simple sampler box
So much knowledge right here. No replicating that 90's Jungle sound without the HARDWARE!!!! Big Up!
i was in my teens and had a Amiga 1200 in the early 90s and was really into jungle. never knew it could do this till years later. it was mainly used for sensible soccer and lemmings
Sensible Soccer!! Lemmings!!
Did you ever play The Chaos Engine?!
@@DesiLofi I can't remember...
@@DesiLofi yes i did, that's brought back memories. i can remember having it on a copy but not really getting into it and playing for some reason
i hope this music will come back one day...i still love it as much as i did in the old days!
Not just about the hardware and techniques though. Pete Cannon truly knows this music and how to put it together ... every track has the vibe down pat and the imagination on the drum edits etc. is outstanding.
This vid right here is heaven for the old geezer I have now become...(47)
But it really shows how the workflow and creativity have now changed...the process was way different back then.
Shopping for 1$ vinyls at the flea markets, then the long sampling and editing sessions to make yourself a bank...wasn't too long to fill a floppy disk on my 950 but when I finally got Zip disk via SCSI on my Emu 64 that was something else.
I remember clearly sampling some rather soft kicks from some 60's record only to have them come out super hard trough the AD converters from the 950.
Man I swear nothing sampled like these old Akai's for hard knocking compressed sounds.
My god these sounds take me back to my youth, huge big ups for this one....loved it
Great to see and hear the good old gear still doing it's thing. Was heavily involved in early rave scene and used to make samplers & hardware for others. Was so much fun from around 1987 to 1997 , built a helluva lot of hardware in the early days of MIDI until around 2000 by which time I shifted my focus to video production. Watched this video and have just dusted off the old OctaMED and am now going to dive into the old archive discs from back in the day. already see a stack of classic rave, jungle, breakbeat & house goodies that will no doubt confuse the heck out the rest of the village as I give it plenty with the ol' tunes.. Inspired by Pete getting the old gear out I can see it is going to get noisy in here !.. Might even copy a bunch of the old samples into the modular synth sample sequencer module and knock together some new stuff with 30+ year old samples .. BRILLIANT !
This guy is an absolute treasure
Masterclass in retro Jungle production. It was a pleasure to watch.
He is so great working with that stuff nowadays but that's why his sound is so distinctive and original!
Yes, this did my heart well. Dude is true head for the music and is now a historian and preservationist for the process as well. Very cool stuff all around.
P.S. If you like making 8-bit, 4 ch. Jungle, the PO-33 KO pocket sized sampler from Teenage Engineering is absolutely killer for old school Jungle.
OctaMED 4 was definitely free with CU Amiga. I had it myself. Amazing software. So nice to see it being used today. Now I'll have to dig out my Amiga 500.
What a stellar video - full of vibe, nostalgia and great fun tunes that remind me of being 16 years old riding around on my 50cc motorbike and listening to those sounds on my mates decks... And, of course, having a bit of a smoke!
You rode around on a bike listening to sounds on a deck? w@W !!!!!!!
@@marleypumpkin4917 Yep, that was one hell of a motorcycle!!
Jungle changed my life in so many ways. I’ll never stop loving this music.
Never heard of this dude, never really listened to Jungle before, but the algorithm brought me here and I"m so happy it did.
IMO if you want to make something that sounds retro, its more important to replicate the workflow (like Pete does) than just simulate the sounds wih a plugin.
The swing settings on the Atari are a legendary part of the vibe. People held onto Atari based setups long after they were obsolete as a home computer, because they felt the swing was better, and the midi timing was tighter because it was built in.
Atari has a unique OS which makes it very tight. Whichever programming is running takes over the whole computer. That's why atari st is still tighter than even new computers (according to some ppl). Hardware sounds different because of the analog signal flow. Plus each piece of kit has its own sound, and its about the da converters and many discrete parts, interactive, real/physical parts, all of which give hardware character which is hard to emulate on a computer. It's not so much about the "algorhythm" that the old samplers used.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ Its interesting how people like old machines for their swing feel. I have heard the same about old Akai MPCs.
@@sumocloud Yes I agree there are lots of variables in the soundpath also, but IMO what really makes something sound oldschool is having to record it the old way: with maybe an old sequencer like the Yamaha RM1X, a couple of samplers, a couple of synths, patching it all with midi, having to record knobs live, etc. The workflow is so different than using a DAW. In my studio I have both DAW and a Yamaha RS7000 to chose from :)
@@sumocloud what mpc would you recommended to make hip hop ?
Finally a real music/producer studio ! Music before audio-treatment and high-end gears !
The 'warm sound' every one talks about is just down to the fact that we weren't completing cutting out frequency bands using EQ plugins like everyone does now. You would just tweak on a Mackie board. The mixes were muddied/warmer. Also used to use the Akai LPF a lot, which adds warmth.
That and less high high end. Some producers just fill it with whitenoise especially the EDMTrance guys. Shits horrid.
@@drifter402 🤣😹😂
I just record everything loud and hope for the best , it sounds pretty good to me
love what he has done for reviving octamed. i had so many happy hours sampling my depeche mode cds and making proper frankie bones style house beats.
You actually gave me loads of techniques that I can use on my Octatrack.
Finally a video on TH-cam on sampling in the earlier days with the correct equipment and the sequencing done just right .
I used to use octamed back in the day but using the built in sampler.
I remember when the memory got low it wouldnt let you trim the start of the sample so we had to reverse the sample so the start was at the end,it would let you trim the end and then re-reverse it again to normal........was a ball ache but work around lol
Such a great host love his energy
Ah ha, the chord memory thing definitely seems to be key to that era's sound!
The deepmind does that really well. It does all of the synth sounds this video makes, but I use others too lol. But specifically, it has a chord button.
Or you can just sample and loop the chord, and pitch it around in your sampler. That's the way I always did it, and I always assumed that's how everyone else did it too up until I saw this video haha
one of them yes.
Just imagine, having this video on VHS in late 90's. some would kill for it.
takes me back to HammerHead software and Rebirth, first version of 'Fruity Loops' and Acid music producer. Had some great times making tunes back then
Damn, I forgot all about Hammerhead.
This video and bit of nerdery is pure gold. Thank you so much for sharing.
Oh this takes me back. I used an Amiga in the very early 90's. It was like a Fairlight for kids with limited resources. Started with Octamed and later got Music X, a Roland D10 and an Ensoniq Mirage. A Tascam four track and a sync unit. It seems I had more complete results with that, than with my modern Cubase setup. I think the limitations made people try a bit harder, structurally.
fantastic video. i began producing in the late 90s/early 2000s and only ever used software. seeing this is a real eye opener for how some of my favourite tunes from back in the day were made. thanks for making this
🔥🔥 *LETS START THE MAJIC AGAIN THIS IS TRUE SCIENCE!! SOUND FREQUENCY AND COMMUNICATION FOR ABSOKUTE MANIFESTATION!!* 🔥🔥
I’m 51 and remember the scene well 😊 and love the video. Now 3 years later we have the Amiga VST, absolut 🔥
Not a fan of jungle music, but seeing an Amiga 1200 doing its thing in 2020, is a thing of beauty and a joy forever
how tf is anyone not a fan of jungle
These old tracker programs are the way forward, it's exactly what's missing in music today. There is somthing about them, I don't know what it is, but I live the sound/feel of old records made using these.
I was barely a teenager when all this was going on but I remember reading Future Music magazine and wanting an Akai sampler... No way would I have had the patience to deal with all that!
I dunno about you, but this music makes my jaws clench and eyes roll into the back of my head. In all seriousness, these kinds of tracks brought me back to my youth. thank you for sharing this.
When he started playing 808 state and then made the noise with his mouth, had me rolling - absolutely wicked video and pete seems so enthusiastic about stuff
I loved this! Had the Akai, Roland S10 sampler, Tascam Portastudio mkII 414, 3 x 1200s, reel2reel (straight from the pawn shop!), and most importantly my Voyetra Sequencer Plus Gold. Added an SY22, Proteus and R8, but that was my setup for house music all night long! Thank you for bringing those memories to the forefront.Some of my happiest times...
Oh my god yeah this is the business! I had an ST and an STE in the 90s, actually made some tracker type tunes with a program called Quartet, a simple 4 track sampler. Massively into 'rave', and after that jungle and DnB. This is like heaven! Wicked stuff! ... Is jungle making a comeback 'cos if it is I'm there!
One word here: *awesome* ! Thank you so much to Pete Cannon for coming up with these killer beats and to SOS Magazine for making the film and posting it here. 🙏🙏🙏
Great video, we need more of this kind of content.
Was really nice to see how it was done, MASSIVE RESTEPA.
SERIOUSLY, BIG RESPECT
MANY OF US NOW CREATE THIS MUSIC WITH EASE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY AND NEED TO APPRECIATE.
WAS NICE TO KICK BACK CLOSE MY EYES AND ENJOY.
I used to use Bars and Pipes for Amiga MIDI sequencing. It's still unequaled in my experience in terms of how you can drop in tools into the MIDI pipeline. So you could add a chord tool into the pipeline between the MIDI IN and the sequencer, play chords using a single key and record it into the sequencer. Then if you wanted transpose it in realtime on the output pipeline. Then there were tools for realtime quantise, MIDI echos and all sorts. You could audition them in realtime and then if you were happy, apply them to the track. Everything else I've used since has been fiddly and required manually selecting and applying things to the tracks. B&P worked well on a 14Mhz Amiga with 2MB of RAM so why can't my 3.4Ghz 16GB PC handle it? it can, but nobody can be bothered to change how things work to make them work nicer.
Midi effects still exist. I use them in Cubase.
But you are somehow right. My Amiga always did exactly what I wanted.
I always wanted to try bars n pipes, I only ever used music-x
@@joeysanders2054 ARexx ftw
@@TheBizzyBScience Yes. Those trackers were great!
I really couldn’t get my head around that software, remember it well though!
my mans be killing them P's, K's, and C's. natural raw beatbox talent
OctaMED still goes hard!
i fascinating how clean but crisp the last track sounds out of all this old gear..sweet..
Sounds from the magical times of breaktbeat & jungle. And of course very cool to see trackers still being used.
Not my type of music but this dude's enthusiasm is contagious. I'd love to chat with him about old tech and trackers.
The software may be vintage but his hair is FUTURE.
Killer-Hair- tz ✌️
This is Quality. Timeless- machines made in 80th and 90th got so good quality and a kind of great workflow in a kind of limited "frame" in a positive ceative way.
This is exactly why I miss using ProTracker: The sample manipulation is so incredibly easy in a tracker compared to a DAW:
And for those who aren’t quite looking for a full tracker/want to integrate their daw, we have ReDux
There is a version of ProTracker 2.3D that runs on a PC. ;-)
@@SpeccyMan same with Fasttracker 2.
Could you explain the benefits for those of us who have never used a tracker?
@@V_A_N_C_E I'd say it's the immediacy and the ease of editing. It's basically a sampler synth with a built in sequencer. With the older trackers it's none of the opening a project, creating channels, routing this and that. It's just load a sample and go, start doodling.
Bro!
I'm 42, still into making music and you - you lovely maniac - just made me install an (emulated) FT2 - Fast Tracker 2. Fock me, did we squeeze the hell out of that!
Thank you SO much!!!