Most people go through quickly and without issues. However when there are red flags it quickly becomes a nightmare both on the Canadian side AND the US side (for us Canadians under similar circumstances).
#1 Just because you have a US passport doesn't mean you automatically are allowed to come in... the US doesn't have blanket immunity to do what they want, contrary to what you believe. #2 you told them you were coming for work based on your story. Did you have the appropriate visa? #3 I'm sure there is more to the story that you left out to have that kind of response. #4 The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world right now so don't play like the US citizens are all Angels. We will protect our border and will continue to do so.
You talked too much, gave too much information. Anyone who gives a long story...is suspect. Shouldn't have mentioned business...bad move. THAT set off all of the 'alarms'. Can't WORK in Canada without a work visa, and unlike the US, Canada ENFORCES its Immigration laws. Once you've entered the first time, you're on the computer system, and the next time, as long as you don't mention working in Canada.....you'll be identified and passed through without problems. You made your OWN problem for yourself.... Same with Canadians going to the US. Being an "American" is actually a disadvantage in a lot of countries when trying to enter....you should know that.
Yea this was almost 100% because the first thing you mentioned you were doing when coming into the country was meeting with a company, that immediately flagged you as traveling for business purposes, which has different requirements for entry than just tourism. Then when you stepped back and said naw i dont even have to visit the company i just want to see some friends, that set off more red flags with the border service agents, who now see you as someone who was trying to get into the country for business purposes, did not have the proper documentation for it, then recanted and said you were there visiting friends instead. That to them looks like your flip flopping about your intentions to enter the country, which is suspicious. I agree they should have explained things clearly to you, the Detroit crossing is kind of notorious even for Canadians in regards to poor service, but i can see why they would pull you aside for further questioning.
You were what is called a "business visitor" , i.e. someone coming to visit by observing or attending a meeting but NOT actually working. Such business visitors are indeed required to have a formal letter from the business involved. So when you mentioned business you removed yourself from the purely tourist category.
whoa...damn! I used to live in Buffalo and went over the canada all the time. they literally just wave me through each time, never gave me any issues. I only had a few bad encounter with US custom patrol, that was when I didn't organize my car and it looked like a junkyard in the back seat.
You probably were unlucky and got hit with a random search. I'm Canadian and one time coming to the US for holiday had my whole car searched and interviewed for no reason
I have had a bad experience traveling to the US from Canada, being interrogated like this. We were going on a camping trip and left at 4am. They did not like that I was bringing a camera with a wind screen and kept asking me what it was for. We also had all of our gear in dry bags. The first officer asked me to turn off the car as soon as I pulled up, so I did. Then he said "Listen, I'm not f*ing around here. Turn it off now." and I got super confused, but he wanted the lights off. Then he asked me to turn off an external battery with a charge indicator light on it and I didn't know how or if I could turn it off and when I said that he just yelled at me.... So stressful, I haven't been back and I won't even get connecting flights in the US anymore.
NO Canadian Border Services officer EVER treats someone the way you claim. What you say is total bullshit. They wouls NEVER use the F bomb...EVER, so quit lying.
When I went to Corsica from UK. The guy at immigration looked at my passport asked no questions and sent me on my way to collect the bag. I've had bad experiences going to the US and Canada though. Both are bad. It depends on the port of entry. I can remember the immigration at Detroit are not nice. My auntie was a flight attendant for Delta and she always said Detroit was known for being bad. That Windsor port of entry is also known for being bad because lots of drugs come in through that port of entry.
Back in 1993, my elderly parents and I took a vacation back east. We are originally from upstate New York. We flew and then rented a car. The plan was to do a big loop through New England, enter Canada into Quebec from Maine and continue through Quebec, Ontario and re-enter New York at Niagara Falls. When we got to the Quebec border, border security had us go inside the offices while they thoroughly searched the car. It was a rental car so that was not a surprise. Once inside I was separated from my parents. I was questioned by two people, a man and a woman. The woman took the lead. Initially, the usual questions were asked. When were we from? What was our purpose in Canada? What places were we planning to stay while in Canada? And how long would we be there? Then things got a little more personal. What type of work did I do? How long did I work for the company? Had I ever been arrested? Did I smoke pot? Have I ever had a DUI? Do I own any firearms? Have I ever owned any firearms? What was my marital status? Do I have children? All the while they had my passport and driver's license so many of these questions could easily have been checked. Throughout the interrogation they would repeatedly ask the same questions over to see if my answers had been consistent. Now I should say I have been to Canada many times in the past on vacation and experienced nothing like this. Finally after being asked if I had ever been arrested for the 3rd or 4th time (I had not) I asked them why don't you just take my passport and check it yourself? This questioning lasted at least 45 minutes, all the while my parents were in another room. Finally, they were satisfied and I was reunited with my parents and we continued on to Quebec city. My parents had been asked the usual questions that lasted maybe 10 minutes. While in Quebec city we took a tour of the city. On a break, I related my story to the tour guide. She smiled and immediately said it was my hair. I had long hair that I had tied up in a pony tail. I said, "my hair?" She said that my long hair was probably a red flag that I might be smuggling drugs or guns into the country. I responded, "with my elderly parents with me?" I laughed and said you Canadians watch too much American TV. In October I plan on visiting Quebec again. I will be traveling alone. I would like to see a hockey game in Montreal and visit the Mohawk Reservation across the river from the city. I have not been to Quebec since that time in 1993. My hair is even longer now. I also now have a pierced earring and a tattoo. Since 9/11, I would assume that border security is more heightened now. I can only imagine what awaits me.
The reason this happened to you was because your answers to their questions tipped them off that you were coming there to work illegally. All you have to say is I’m visiting a friend that lives in Toronto I’ll be staying for this many days. And they let you through no problem.
That’s unfortunate Mariusz it’s hit and miss with a broader agent ( I traveled back and forth daily for 20 years) sometimes they give you a hassle like you received, other times they barely ask your name and let you through.
If you have entered Canada once, without problems and LEFT on time....the following entries are without problem. Ain't computers wonderful? Anybody who gives a long story to a border agent....is insane.
That is the advantage of EU: from Finland you may go by car or train to Portugal, you cross 7 borders (Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portugal) without showing Passport or ID. You do not have to stop at the borders, sometime not even you notice that you just crossed a border!
Haha I'm sorry man, but the retelling of all this craziness is pretty funny. "You know what let's just take a step back here" take a step back from explaining a casual short trip to Canada haha
The Americans would do the same to a Canadian if they said they were coming to do business with a company. It works both ways! it has nothing to do with Canada!
I am dual Canadian and American, I can 100% say that ure case is an isolated one. I always have troubles with the American TSA rather than the Canadian border agents. Canadians are among the sweetest people you can meet. I have never had a problem crossing the border into Canada 🇨🇦.
For your information it does happen if you come from Mexico it's called a secondary search when they ask you to step out of your vehicle I'll put you inside the room meanwhile they're searching your car
It's always faster for me to get into Canada than to get back into the US. Trip last year: 2 questions took 30 seconds, going back in US got drilled for 5 minutes
I forget which comedian it was, but they had a great bit about being asked if they were going to visit any farms when trying to enter Canada and how funny of a question that was.
That question becomes "Have you visited any farms while in Canada?" when you re-enter the USA. Say "No" and don't have any agriculture products with you.
In the 50s, 60s, rarly 70s i could go to Canada from Detroit without a passport and answer a couple of questions. Ive lived in SC for50 yrs and wanted to visit Windsor for dinner on a trip home a few years ago and couldnt believe the hassel and passport requirement
Your "mistake" was probably mentioning anything about companies or business. Sounds like they were treating you as a Business Visitor which has requirements for you to prove. Of course, I'm not advocating withholding information from border officials and only mentioning visiting friends for fun as a reason for coming to Canada no matter how much time, stress, and annoyance it saves you. ;)
I think they got the impression you were there for work, in which case you’d need a permit/visa or something. They let you through after you clarified it was mostly a social & touristic visit. Still, it sounds like an excessively hostile reaction for what would have been a non-criminal offence anyways lol
As much as Canada and the US have free trade agreements in place, those agreements do not generally include free trade in labour and work. In the eurozone, you can move around freely and work. This is very different. Between the Canada and US, if you are crossing the border to work, there are rules and visa required, depending on what you are doing. If you are crossing the border to do sales, or to attend a conference, generally not a problem. If there is the whiff that you are being remunerated for your trip, then you are in a different category and different rules are in place. Crossing the border as a tourist is by far the easiest way to cross the border, but even that generally comes with the stipulation that you can only stay for 6 months as a tourist. These rules are about the same in both directions at the border.
As a Canadian trying to commute across the border into the US I have many similar stories about US customs agent. Once had to "get processed" which included retinal scan. Trip was for business but had proper paper work. I think it was because I was travelling with two "brown" colleagues (both long time Canadian citizens) about 5 years after 9-11 but never found out. A new supervisor after a shift change intervened and confirmed paperwork was appropriate. On another occasion, our family was travelling by car to Florida. We had made some sandwiches with deli-meats to eat for our dinner - we were planning on driving through the night while the kids slept. They confiscated the sandwiches (no meat allowed - I thought it was raw meat but the patrol officers decreed it was all meat). The kids lost it because someone was taking their dinner! The latest instance was this past March. My son graduated with his business degree and had a management internship lined up with a company in Colorado. He went to the airport to catch his flight, visa paperwork in hand and they denied access because the sponsor had not filled out the paperwork properly (cost of one flight down the drain). He gets paperwork sorted, buys another flight and attempts entry again. They process his paperwork. Agent confirms it is good. Needs supervisor approval. Supervisor denies access because "who would be hiring internationals for entry level jobs during CoVid?". My son protests and says "look at the last time I was processed - agent called my employer and confirmed legitimacy". Cops we called and he was escorted out of the airport. Needless to say that ended his ambition to gain global work experience. Now I have crossed the border many times with no issue - but when there is an issue, it can be crazy.
OMG I had a bad experience a while back... I rented a car and went to Michigan .. while in Michigan for a weekend trip .. while in Michigan I decided to go across the bridge to Canada for a few hrs... Port Huron ...I was ok going to Canada .. but coming back to the USA ..OMG .. I was told to park my car over to the right .. several guards came out .. and some escorted me to an office and they asked me why did I go to Canada for a few hrs.. etc ..why was I carrying several hundred $$ in cash .. etc etc .. where did I work , etc .. and they tore my rental car apart , went through all my clothes etc .. and real mess .. they finally let me into the USA after several hrs....it was terrible.
Crazy. I've never had issues going into the US. Normally it's the US people who are tougher but I've never really been at the border for more than a few minutes.
This is normal Usa border patrol do the same thing is their job, when going to a different country you need to be prepared.. been a USA citizen don't guarantee privileges
You don’t need a passport to fly between US cities. As long as your trip is direct and begins in the lower 48, you could fly directly to Hawaii or Alaska without a passport. It’s only when there’s a stopover or if you’re driving to Alaska, since you’ll be crossing international borders.
My wife and I went to Canada last week to attend a wedding and reconnect with some friends. I am a US citizen, and my wife is a US permanent resident with a Philippines passport. I was prepared for some additional questioning to further verify her status...but going into Canada and coming back to the US both took about 30-45 seconds max. Now, I had been told previously that I could enter Canada with an enhanced driver's license only (which I have), but the agent asked for the passport as well. I also had the wedding invitation ready to show in case they wanted to confirm why we were going into Canada...and I had our vaccination cards just in case...but he asked for none of it. Sounds like it depends on the agent and their mood that day. But your experience just seems ridiculous and excessive. That lady should have clarified what she meant by, "be prepared". I guess she meant that you should be prepared to get hassled again if you return :( Sounds like the agents were the ones who weren't prepared that day, such as not understanding the meaning of "due diligence" (*facepalm*)
Had a similar experience flying from London to Sydney through Vancouver (Canada). Crazy and felt really unwelcome. Never experienced this anywhere else.
They thought you were going to conduct business in Canada. It's what it sounded like in your answers. Which is illegal without the proper permits. Next time do your homework before going. Just because you're American doesn't mean you should get a free pass.
Like whole world changed, China refusing to export, no peace in Europe, divergent monetary policy among countries, highest CPI after a decade of trying to reach 2%, movements restrictions instead of mass migration… value investing is back, Germany with new government and in recession instead of Southern Europe, couldn’t do everything online but now can’t get any service in-person all robodigitized… but backing the old trend: fewer freedoms and lower standards of living
I had the same experience with the American agents. One of them even smacked me cause I was 6 years old and they tried to grab me and I bit his arm. They stripped the car through everything on floor and told us to put everything back. They were completely cruel and overbearing.
The next time the border control will ask him why he isn't driving a Tesla and then after his answer we all can write emails to the canadians to let him out of the jail.
You did it to yourself, you said way too much. They ask "Why are you visiting Canada?", You say "Tourism". You hand them your American passport. I'm Canadian by birth and American by choice. I feel bad that a few Canadian provided you with a bad experience.
The unemployment rate in Canada is at all time low because everyone is working at the border and each agent will search your car 6 times just to make sure no fruits are found.
Sorry but the "problems" were really all of your own making....... and I hope you have learned from the experience......... especially that a US passport provides no special privileges with other sovereign countries. I am a Canadian but I have worked for many years for a very large US-based multi-national engineering company. I was often required to travel from Toronto down to the US to provide training at some of our facilities down there. I often get taken aside by US immigration officials to explain how a Canadian may be able to provide training to anyone in the US. The worst experience was when I once decided to drive across the border and fly out of Buffalo Airport. Even with all the correct documents (including an invitation letter), I was hung up for so long that I ended up saying, "Forget it, I'll return home and just tell my Company that I was not allowed to cross the border". They then relented and I just made my flight.
You should try entering the US from Canada. I have done it 2 times a year for the last 18 years. The border officials on both sides of the border do the same thing. They size you up then try to rattle you by asking dumb questions or things that you don't expect. If they think it worth it, they challenge you and intimidate you hoping you will say something stupid. They have absolute control. You screw up and you may be banned for 5 years and that is the same in the US. When you go to the border, be respectful, say 'sir or madam' and cut with the attitude. You were not admitted probably because of your 'entitled' attitude. The same thing would happen at any border, especially the US.
I have had my luggage searched at a USA airport when transiting from Bahamas-USA-Canada. It could have been random, but this was a regular route for me- 3 times a year- so it could have been a random- or this could have been a drug interdiction search. Border agents earn their pay- Canada's agents intercepted a team of Saudi assasins a few years ago at Toronto airport. US agents intercepted a terrorist with a truck bomb at the Seattle ferry crossing. It strikes me that Mariusz is the tyoe of guy who triggered a further search.
Totally understandable that you didn't know it would be difficult, but with EVERY border crossing you need to be prepared for things to go wrong. No one is ENTITLED to enter another country. ALWAYS be polite and calm even if they are being difficult. I have crossed countless times without issue until my mother gave me some boxes to take to my cousin (I was passing through Canada and then back to the US). I knew they contained some China from his wedding, but didn't look inside to see exactly what was in them. Same deal as why they say in the airport not to carry packages from strangers. Since I didn't know the exact details of what was inside they searched the entire car. Totally my fault. I let them search and was polite the entire time. It ended up just taking an extra half hour, and after they were done I had a nice conversation with the guards. The key was I didn't get upset and I let them do their jobs. I knew why I had messed up, and accepted responsibility. You live, you learn. I hope this doesn't keep you from returning to Canada. It is the most amazing country I have ever visited.
Were I border guard in any country I would have done the same to you. You raised a lot of red flags. I'm 70, have lived near the US-Canada border most of my life and crossed back and forth literally thousands of times and have never, ever had any trouble even in my long haired hippie days. People who post these "trouble crossing" videos are typically clueless and deserve what they get.
I'm starting to appreciate even more how comfortable is to travel across Europe. PS. My advice is simple: never, ever go to places where you're not welcomed. You didn't know, now you have experiences. I can't imagine myself going to places where border patrol treat me like a trash.
You very likely hit ZERO hour when they go 100% by the book. I had that happen one time going to the USA from Canada. Most of the time especially post 911 going from Canada to the USA is closer to what you had happen than what you expected although you made it worse by your attitude. As a former European and now American you probably don't even realize you are acting privileged. The treatment you got was exactly what you deserved, you are lucky they didn't throw you out since you were working in Canada without the proper paperwork/visa. We are happy if you don't return, we don;t need that kind of attitude and anger here.
Atleast Canada Border Services does't pull a gun every time they don't like you. If you think it is insane, then go home, we don't need you complainers
Welcome to Canada! I used to cross the border twice monthly on day trips to the United States. I am a Canadian. Going into the States was a simple how do you do type of thing. Took 2 minutes. Coming back into Canada it took on average 10 minutes with all the un-necessary questions. I will admit most agents are pretty good but some are on ego trips. Now I travel to the US just once a year. I go through US Customs and Immigration which takes no time. Coming back to Canada you almost have to psych yourself up for battle! On one trip I brought back 2 ounces of pipe tobacco and I declared it as I had not been away for 24 hours. The male agent blew a gasket, yelling at me saying I could be fined and have tobacco seized. I said to him I am declaring it and will pay duty on it. He finally calmed down but gave me a stern warning to never do it again and I left. I don't know what is happening to my country. Democracy is under attack and our leaders are the problem.
Most of my crossings either way are a couple of minutes- one was longer transiting through a USA airport to Canada. Another longer one was a couple of months after 9/11, transiting through USA. During COVID hotel quautantines, i flew into Buffalo then took a cab to my quarantine site in Canada. THey asked for my passport, am i bringing anything in (they had the Arrivecan declaration), why didn't I fly to toronto - anwser - no direct flights into Canada from Bahamas (half lie- I couldn't get a COVID hotel room)- this wasn't more than two minutes. Never once did I meet a condescending Canadian border agent. I have met several incredibly rude USA agents, one notable one in Fort Lauderdale, who asked me if i spoke english
As a Canadian I am totally fine with customs doing this to you because you mentioned you were meeting a company which triggers “here to work” and I don’t want any one coming into my country to work illegally. This would happen if we said this to the United States customs too. I’m sure you’d feel the same way about your country. It is very reasonable what happened to you, the way you answered the question is in every training book to “red flag” questioning. Rules are rules.
The person just needs to ensure they have the right visa that captures what they plan on doing in Canada; people however coming to Canada claiming to be tourists but intending to do non-touristy stuff, forget it - go apply for the appropriate visa.
Wonder if every taxpayer can get same treatment, those from the government and flying private jets?. Always thought there used to be human rights, constitutional freedoms for citizens, privileges and respect for those deserving, and common sense or basic polite attitude for decent, law abiding folk. Well, then 2008 and 2020 happened, perennial depression, polarisation, robo-everything: I was denied service and even basic guidance by business representatives because “we only do it online”. Imagine, here’s full time employee, to me as a client representing the business. Corporate and public bureaucracy led to real alienation of employees from both life, society and product/services of labour, clients satisfaction. Certainly feels like central planners decided the pie is too small and there are too many of us
Government bureaucrats on a power trip are another level of hell. And don't EVER make the mistake of pissing them off! You should have crossed illegally. You would have been invited right in and given some welfare too. 🙄
I just can’t believe they take their jobs so seriously and can’t take a joke, everyone rebellious on the Internet and you run into complete loyalists in reality. Can start believing everyone’s microchipped or something, but it’s been like that for long time, I think it is just we have fewer religious people, instead they worship rules, more meaningless is better. It’s like they need to pay me really a lot to behave like this, or maybe it’s just some kind of fetish, they aren’t in it for the money
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTATION MY BROTHER.I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN CANADA CLOSE TO 40 YEARS, I AM GREATFUL TO THIS COUNTRY FOR HAVING GIVEN ME SHELTER ,AND COMPARE TO OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT IT IS A LOT BETTER, BUT IT IS ALSO FULL OF BULLSHIT LAWS AND REGULATIONS. THEY NEED TO CHANGE. DON'T LET THIS RIDICULOUS EXPERIENCE DETER YOU FROM COMING BACK TO CANADA AGAIN AND ENJOY THE BEAUTY THIS AMAZING COUNTRY HAS TO OFFER. CHEERS TOUGH GUY!!!!!
I guess it also has something to do with ur accent, not saying it in a racist way of course, but i believe u have more chances to be pulled if u dont have the same north american accent
There's these "border control" TV shows from various countries. Based on those + friends/colleagues experiences, what I'm 100% convinced of is to never EVER under any circumstances visit Canada or Australia. They do not want you there. Full stop. Maybe try some more welcoming places like German police headquarters, Czechia or a Swiss medical research institute.
You weren't up to any mischief and were probably spending a lot of money there. If they want to act like that, few people will bother trying to go there, and they'll lose revenue.
Canada is a nice place to visit. There are a few things you have to look out for. 1. You need to use a credit card or exchange money on your way into Canada to use there money. A lot of the people at the stores will try to get over on you. I had that issue in some stores that have Indians working there. Always look at your receipt and the price of the item before you buy. Don’t get mad people I’m telling what happened to me a few times. But I can always show the video if need be 😂. I never really a problem with boarder patrol
You're acting like crossing the Canadian border is no different than travelling from Indiana to Michigan. Big mistake. Canada is not one of the US states. Frankly, your attitude stinks. The initial Canada Customs agent asked a standard series of questions. You either didn't give the correct answers or your answers raised suspicions. As for searching your car and your suitcase, hey, you're coming in from the land of guns. What do you expect? And finally, you never ever talk back to the agents, whether you're coming into Canada or returning to the US. If you weren't allowed in, and if you've decided to never return, we won't lose any sleep.
Dude - Canadians are very welcoming. Something has been flagged on your passport. You do sound dodgy with your story even here on TH-cam. I’m not sure I’d trust you either with your stories about meeting CEOs and a couple of friends. Don’t try your nonsense if you come to Australia or the Uk - it sounds like you’d be questioned and sent back. If you were serious, you wouldn’t be voicing your disappointment on TH-cam given you’re talking about dealing with CEOs. Let me guess - you’re annoyed because Canadian border patrol saw something dodgy on your passport and poor little you wasn’t happy.
Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Canada. If they discovered you supported the lawful and peaceful truckers’ protest they could throw you in jail with no due process.
...and they smear everybody who disagree with them as fascists. Fascists are easy to find in Canada. They just have to look in the mirror! That goes double for their prime minister.
the real reason for the treatment you received is that you have an accent.they thought you are mexican or something. had you presented yourself as a tourist , they would have still made up a pretext to give you exactly the same treatment
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This guy can talk forever without making a point.
Most people go through quickly and without issues. However when there are red flags it quickly becomes a nightmare both on the Canadian side AND the US side (for us Canadians under similar circumstances).
#1 Just because you have a US passport doesn't mean you automatically are allowed to come in... the US doesn't have blanket immunity to do what they want, contrary to what you believe. #2 you told them you were coming for work based on your story. Did you have the appropriate visa? #3 I'm sure there is more to the story that you left out to have that kind of response. #4 The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world right now so don't play like the US citizens are all Angels. We will protect our border and will continue to do so.
Mariusz: I run a company called Microcap Explosions... Border Agent: Explosions? Visit a company? woah woah! please pull over sir.
LOL!
Hahaha I was thinking "DON'T MENTION THE NAME OF YOUR COMPANY!!!!" lol
Luckily he didn't crash his Porsche 911
You talked too much, gave too much information. Anyone who gives a long story...is suspect. Shouldn't have mentioned business...bad move. THAT set off all of the 'alarms'. Can't WORK in Canada without a work visa, and unlike the US, Canada ENFORCES its Immigration laws. Once you've entered the first time, you're on the computer system, and the next time, as long as you don't mention working in Canada.....you'll be identified and passed through without problems. You made your OWN problem for yourself.... Same with Canadians going to the US. Being an "American" is actually a disadvantage in a lot of countries when trying to enter....you should know that.
Oroco is up. I think you need to visit Canada more often.
Yea this was almost 100% because the first thing you mentioned you were doing when coming into the country was meeting with a company, that immediately flagged you as traveling for business purposes, which has different requirements for entry than just tourism. Then when you stepped back and said naw i dont even have to visit the company i just want to see some friends, that set off more red flags with the border service agents, who now see you as someone who was trying to get into the country for business purposes, did not have the proper documentation for it, then recanted and said you were there visiting friends instead. That to them looks like your flip flopping about your intentions to enter the country, which is suspicious. I agree they should have explained things clearly to you, the Detroit crossing is kind of notorious even for Canadians in regards to poor service, but i can see why they would pull you aside for further questioning.
You were what is called a "business visitor" , i.e. someone coming to visit by observing or attending a meeting but NOT actually working. Such business visitors are indeed required to have a formal letter from the business involved. So when you mentioned business you removed yourself from the purely tourist category.
whoa...damn! I used to live in Buffalo and went over the canada all the time. they literally just wave me through each time, never gave me any issues. I only had a few bad encounter with US custom patrol, that was when I didn't organize my car and it looked like a junkyard in the back seat.
You probably were unlucky and got hit with a random search. I'm Canadian and one time coming to the US for holiday had my whole car searched and interviewed for no reason
I have had a bad experience traveling to the US from Canada, being interrogated like this. We were going on a camping trip and left at 4am. They did not like that I was bringing a camera with a wind screen and kept asking me what it was for. We also had all of our gear in dry bags. The first officer asked me to turn off the car as soon as I pulled up, so I did. Then he said "Listen, I'm not f*ing around here. Turn it off now." and I got super confused, but he wanted the lights off. Then he asked me to turn off an external battery with a charge indicator light on it and I didn't know how or if I could turn it off and when I said that he just yelled at me.... So stressful, I haven't been back and I won't even get connecting flights in the US anymore.
NO Canadian Border Services officer EVER treats someone the way you claim. What you say is total bullshit. They wouls NEVER use the F bomb...EVER, so quit lying.
Sounds like when I travel to the US, lol.
We had the same experience coming from Canada to USA. The US custom agent was on a power trip!
When I went to Corsica from UK. The guy at immigration looked at my passport asked no questions and sent me on my way to collect the bag. I've had bad experiences going to the US and Canada though. Both are bad. It depends on the port of entry. I can remember the immigration at Detroit are not nice. My auntie was a flight attendant for Delta and she always said Detroit was known for being bad. That Windsor port of entry is also known for being bad because lots of drugs come in through that port of entry.
Back in 1993, my elderly parents and I took a vacation back east. We are originally from upstate New York. We flew and then rented a car. The plan was to do a big loop through New England, enter Canada into Quebec from Maine and continue through Quebec, Ontario and re-enter New York at Niagara Falls.
When we got to the Quebec border, border security had us go inside the offices while they thoroughly searched the car. It was a rental car so that was not a surprise. Once inside I was separated from my parents. I was questioned by two people, a man and a woman. The woman took the lead. Initially, the usual questions were asked. When were we from? What was our purpose in Canada? What places were we planning to stay while in Canada? And how long would we be there? Then things got a little more personal. What type of work did I do? How long did I work for the company? Had I ever been arrested? Did I smoke pot? Have I ever had a DUI? Do I own any firearms? Have I ever owned any firearms? What was my marital status? Do I have children? All the while they had my passport and driver's license so many of these questions could easily have been checked. Throughout the interrogation they would repeatedly ask the same questions over to see if my answers had been consistent. Now I should say I have been to Canada many times in the past on vacation and experienced nothing like this. Finally after being asked if I had ever been arrested for the 3rd or 4th time (I had not) I asked them why don't you just take my passport and check it yourself? This questioning lasted at least 45 minutes, all the while my parents were in another room. Finally, they were satisfied and I was reunited with my parents and we continued on to Quebec city. My parents had been asked the usual questions that lasted maybe 10 minutes.
While in Quebec city we took a tour of the city. On a break, I related my story to the tour guide. She smiled and immediately said it was my hair. I had long hair that I had tied up in a pony tail. I said, "my hair?" She said that my long hair was probably a red flag that I might be smuggling drugs or guns into the country. I responded, "with my elderly parents with me?" I laughed and said you Canadians watch too much American TV.
In October I plan on visiting Quebec again. I will be traveling alone. I would like to see a hockey game in Montreal and visit the Mohawk Reservation across the river from the city. I have not been to Quebec since that time in 1993. My hair is even longer now. I also now have a pierced earring and a tattoo. Since 9/11, I would assume that border security is more heightened now. I can only imagine what awaits me.
The reason this happened to you was because your answers to their questions tipped them off that you were coming there to work illegally. All you have to say is I’m visiting a friend that lives in Toronto I’ll be staying for this many days. And they let you through no problem.
Fun fact, that’s exactly why I’m going.
This reminds me of my first trip to Switzerland coming from the Netherlands.
Maybe it is time to come back to Europe? There is no border control what so ever between the EU countries!
That’s unfortunate Mariusz it’s hit and miss with a broader agent ( I traveled back and forth daily for 20 years) sometimes they give you a hassle like you received, other times they barely ask your name and let you through.
If you have entered Canada once, without problems and LEFT on time....the following entries are without problem. Ain't computers wonderful? Anybody who gives a long story to a border agent....is insane.
Bruh border agents don’t care about if you’re coming from space.If they decide to search you have no choice.
Strange things happen in Canadia. The opening frame is worth its weight in gold!
Sorry to hear...sounds like a nightmare at the border.
That is the advantage of EU: from Finland you may go by car or train to Portugal, you cross 7 borders (Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portugal) without showing Passport or ID. You do not have to stop at the borders, sometime not even you notice that you just crossed a border!
Haha I'm sorry man, but the retelling of all this craziness is pretty funny.
"You know what let's just take a step back here" take a step back from explaining a casual short trip to Canada haha
The Americans would do the same to a Canadian if they said they were coming to do business with a company. It works both ways! it has nothing to do with Canada!
Hotel Canada. You can check in any time you want, but you can never enter.
I am dual Canadian and American, I can 100% say that ure case is an isolated one. I always have troubles with the American TSA rather than the Canadian border agents. Canadians are among the sweetest people you can meet. I have never had a problem crossing the border into Canada 🇨🇦.
OK white person!
For your information it does happen if you come from Mexico it's called a secondary search when they ask you to step out of your vehicle I'll put you inside the room meanwhile they're searching your car
It's always faster for me to get into Canada than to get back into the US. Trip last year: 2 questions took 30 seconds, going back in US got drilled for 5 minutes
I forget which comedian it was, but they had a great bit about being asked if they were going to visit any farms when trying to enter Canada and how funny of a question that was.
That question becomes "Have you visited any farms while in Canada?" when you re-enter the USA. Say "No" and don't have any agriculture products with you.
10:43 You’re actually not allowed to do anything work or business related without a visa specifically stating you are permitted to do so.
Case closed.
In the 50s, 60s, rarly 70s i could go to Canada from Detroit without a passport and answer a couple of questions. Ive lived in SC for50 yrs and wanted to visit Windsor for dinner on a trip home a few years ago and couldnt believe the hassel and passport requirement
Your "mistake" was probably mentioning anything about companies or business. Sounds like they were treating you as a Business Visitor which has requirements for you to prove. Of course, I'm not advocating withholding information from border officials and only mentioning visiting friends for fun as a reason for coming to Canada no matter how much time, stress, and annoyance it saves you. ;)
She smiled at him before he left for Toronto and yelled out. Thanks for investing in Canada. LOL! Grrrrrr....
Sorry for the trouble
I think they got the impression you were there for work, in which case you’d need a permit/visa or something. They let you through after you clarified it was mostly a social & touristic visit.
Still, it sounds like an excessively hostile reaction for what would have been a non-criminal offence anyways lol
Working in Canada without a work visa....IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE.
As for the seven agents to search your car, you were on your way much more quickly than if there was only a single agent.
As much as Canada and the US have free trade agreements in place, those agreements do not generally include free trade in labour and work. In the eurozone, you can move around freely and work. This is very different. Between the Canada and US, if you are crossing the border to work, there are rules and visa required, depending on what you are doing. If you are crossing the border to do sales, or to attend a conference, generally not a problem. If there is the whiff that you are being remunerated for your trip, then you are in a different category and different rules are in place. Crossing the border as a tourist is by far the easiest way to cross the border, but even that generally comes with the stipulation that you can only stay for 6 months as a tourist. These rules are about the same in both directions at the border.
As a Canadian trying to commute across the border into the US I have many similar stories about US customs agent. Once had to "get processed" which included retinal scan. Trip was for business but had proper paper work. I think it was because I was travelling with two "brown" colleagues (both long time Canadian citizens) about 5 years after 9-11 but never found out. A new supervisor after a shift change intervened and confirmed paperwork was appropriate. On another occasion, our family was travelling by car to Florida. We had made some sandwiches with deli-meats to eat for our dinner - we were planning on driving through the night while the kids slept. They confiscated the sandwiches (no meat allowed - I thought it was raw meat but the patrol officers decreed it was all meat). The kids lost it because someone was taking their dinner! The latest instance was this past March. My son graduated with his business degree and had a management internship lined up with a company in Colorado. He went to the airport to catch his flight, visa paperwork in hand and they denied access because the sponsor had not filled out the paperwork properly (cost of one flight down the drain). He gets paperwork sorted, buys another flight and attempts entry again. They process his paperwork. Agent confirms it is good. Needs supervisor approval. Supervisor denies access because "who would be hiring internationals for entry level jobs during CoVid?". My son protests and says "look at the last time I was processed - agent called my employer and confirmed legitimacy". Cops we called and he was escorted out of the airport. Needless to say that ended his ambition to gain global work experience.
Now I have crossed the border many times with no issue - but when there is an issue, it can be crazy.
OMG I had a bad experience a while back... I rented a car and went to Michigan .. while in Michigan for a weekend trip .. while in Michigan I decided to go across the bridge to Canada for a few hrs... Port Huron ...I was ok going to Canada .. but coming back to the USA ..OMG .. I was told to park my car over to the right .. several guards came out .. and some escorted me to an office and they asked me why did I go to Canada for a few hrs.. etc ..why was I carrying several hundred $$ in cash .. etc etc .. where did I work , etc .. and they tore my rental car apart , went through all my clothes etc .. and real mess .. they finally let me into the USA after several hrs....it was terrible.
Crazy. I've never had issues going into the US. Normally it's the US people who are tougher but I've never really been at the border for more than a few minutes.
Lol
When the border patrol vocabulary doesn’t include due diligence, that explains a lot ! Not the cream of the crop.
I hear you I get this treatment too sometimes. Not sure why I look so suspicious haha
Whenever someone complains about having a problem at the border, they always leave out some details.
This is normal Usa border patrol do the same thing is their job, when going to a different country you need to be prepared.. been a USA citizen don't guarantee privileges
I blows me away that I need a passport to fly between US cities.
You don’t need a passport to fly between US cities. As long as your trip is direct and begins in the lower 48, you could fly directly to Hawaii or Alaska without a passport. It’s only when there’s a stopover or if you’re driving to Alaska, since you’ll be crossing international borders.
@@Eston-ze3hw That is correct so long as you have a Real ID driver's license. Approximately 11% of American adults do not have a drivers license.
There's episodes of the searches on discovery you should look at them up
In these situations one need to be prepared for the worst
Thank you for sharing you story, that's crazy fr
My wife and I went to Canada last week to attend a wedding and reconnect with some friends. I am a US citizen, and my wife is a US permanent resident with a Philippines passport. I was prepared for some additional questioning to further verify her status...but going into Canada and coming back to the US both took about 30-45 seconds max. Now, I had been told previously that I could enter Canada with an enhanced driver's license only (which I have), but the agent asked for the passport as well. I also had the wedding invitation ready to show in case they wanted to confirm why we were going into Canada...and I had our vaccination cards just in case...but he asked for none of it. Sounds like it depends on the agent and their mood that day. But your experience just seems ridiculous and excessive. That lady should have clarified what she meant by, "be prepared". I guess she meant that you should be prepared to get hassled again if you return :( Sounds like the agents were the ones who weren't prepared that day, such as not understanding the meaning of "due diligence" (*facepalm*)
Had a similar experience flying from London to Sydney through Vancouver (Canada). Crazy and felt really unwelcome. Never experienced this anywhere else.
Try crossing into the USA from Canada. You always get a 3rd degree grilling.
They thought you were going to conduct business in Canada. It's what it sounded like in your answers. Which is illegal without the proper permits. Next time do your homework before going. Just because you're American doesn't mean you should get a free pass.
A lot of radical things happened in Canada during Covid. Different place now.
Like whole world changed, China refusing to export, no peace in Europe, divergent monetary policy among countries, highest CPI after a decade of trying to reach 2%, movements restrictions instead of mass migration… value investing is back, Germany with new government and in recession instead of Southern Europe, couldn’t do everything online but now can’t get any service in-person all robodigitized… but backing the old trend: fewer freedoms and lower standards of living
I had the same experience with the American agents. One of them even smacked me cause I was 6 years old and they tried to grab me and I bit his arm. They stripped the car through everything on floor and told us to put everything back. They were completely cruel and overbearing.
The next time the border control will ask him why he isn't driving a Tesla and then after his answer we all can write emails to the canadians to let him out of the jail.
You did it to yourself, you said way too much.
They ask "Why are you visiting Canada?", You say "Tourism".
You hand them your American passport.
I'm Canadian by birth and American by choice. I feel bad that a few Canadian provided you with a bad experience.
The unemployment rate in Canada is at all time low because everyone is working at the border and each agent will search your car 6 times just to make sure no fruits are found.
I give up going out of the good ol USA 10yrs ago. It's not the same since NYC 9/11 😪
Omg ! You didn't reply as " standard answer"
Been in a situation like this before. When traveling to US. I did all the wrong things.. but this story is much worse. Really f upped
Maybe it's just so boring to be a border officer that they play CIA interrogators to pass the time.
Sorry but the "problems" were really all of your own making....... and I hope you have learned from the experience......... especially that a US passport provides no special privileges with other sovereign countries.
I am a Canadian but I have worked for many years for a very large US-based multi-national engineering company. I was often required to travel from Toronto down to the US to provide training at some of our facilities down there. I often get taken aside by US immigration officials to explain how a Canadian may be able to provide training to anyone in the US. The worst experience was when I once decided to drive across the border and fly out of Buffalo Airport. Even with all the correct documents (including an invitation letter), I was hung up for so long that I ended up saying, "Forget it, I'll return home and just tell my Company that I was not allowed to cross the border". They then relented and I just made my flight.
You should try entering the US from Canada. I have done it 2 times a year for the last 18 years. The border officials on both sides of the border do the same thing. They size you up then try to rattle you by asking dumb questions or things that you don't expect. If they think it worth it, they challenge you and intimidate you hoping you will say something stupid. They have absolute control. You screw up and you may be banned for 5 years and that is the same in the US. When you go to the border, be respectful, say 'sir or madam' and cut with the attitude. You were not admitted probably because of your 'entitled' attitude. The same thing would happen at any border, especially the US.
I have had my luggage searched at a USA airport when transiting from Bahamas-USA-Canada. It could have been random, but this was a regular route for me- 3 times a year- so it could have been a random- or this could have been a drug interdiction search. Border agents earn their pay- Canada's agents intercepted a team of Saudi assasins a few years ago at Toronto airport. US agents intercepted a terrorist with a truck bomb at the Seattle ferry crossing.
It strikes me that Mariusz is the tyoe of guy who triggered a further search.
I have some trucker friends in Ottawa................... guards pull service revolvers.
i would doubt that guards pulled service handguns- btw they are automatics, not revolvers
You can see why people and businesses want to leave Canada!
Totally understandable that you didn't know it would be difficult, but with EVERY border crossing you need to be prepared for things to go wrong. No one is ENTITLED to enter another country. ALWAYS be polite and calm even if they are being difficult. I have crossed countless times without issue until my mother gave me some boxes to take to my cousin (I was passing through Canada and then back to the US). I knew they contained some China from his wedding, but didn't look inside to see exactly what was in them. Same deal as why they say in the airport not to carry packages from strangers. Since I didn't know the exact details of what was inside they searched the entire car. Totally my fault. I let them search and was polite the entire time. It ended up just taking an extra half hour, and after they were done I had a nice conversation with the guards. The key was I didn't get upset and I let them do their jobs. I knew why I had messed up, and accepted responsibility. You live, you learn. I hope this doesn't keep you from returning to Canada. It is the most amazing country I have ever visited.
Were I border guard in any country I would have done the same to you. You raised a lot of red flags. I'm 70, have lived near the US-Canada border most of my life and crossed back and forth literally thousands of times and have never, ever had any trouble even in my long haired hippie days. People who post these "trouble crossing" videos are typically clueless and deserve what they get.
I'm starting to appreciate even more how comfortable is to travel across Europe.
PS. My advice is simple: never, ever go to places where you're not welcomed. You didn't know, now you have experiences. I can't imagine myself going to places where border patrol treat me like a trash.
Spoken like someone who antagonizes border patrol officers and gives them a reason to 'treat you like trash'
you look like you went to mexico with that sunburn lol
That's what happens when you go fishing with Colin Fisher for 6 hours.
You very likely hit ZERO hour when they go 100% by the book. I had that happen one time going to the USA from Canada. Most of the time especially post 911 going from Canada to the USA is closer to what you had happen than what you expected although you made it worse by your attitude. As a former European and now American you probably don't even realize you are acting privileged. The treatment you got was exactly what you deserved, you are lucky they didn't throw you out since you were working in Canada without the proper paperwork/visa. We are happy if you don't return, we don;t need that kind of attitude and anger here.
We haven't evolved as a global community yet but sure do welcome them.
had the same situation in new zealand once - 45 minutes of interrogation - afterwards they welcomed me :) No problem to me but weird indeed
Atleast Canada Border Services does't pull a gun every time they don't like you. If you think it is insane, then go home, we don't need you complainers
Welcome to Canada! I used to cross the border twice monthly on day trips to the United States. I am a Canadian.
Going into the States was a simple how do you do type of thing. Took 2 minutes. Coming back into Canada it took on average 10 minutes with all the un-necessary questions.
I will admit most agents are pretty good but some are on ego trips. Now I travel to the US just once a year. I go through US Customs and Immigration which takes no time. Coming back to Canada you almost have to psych yourself up for battle! On one trip I brought back 2 ounces of pipe tobacco and I declared it as I had not been away for 24 hours. The male agent blew a gasket, yelling at me saying I could be fined and have tobacco seized. I said to him I am declaring it and will pay duty on it. He finally calmed down but gave me a stern warning to never do it again and I left.
I don't know what is happening to my country. Democracy is under attack and our leaders are the problem.
That's how it is for me as an American going to Canada 2 questions 30 seconds done, going back to US takes 5 minutes of questioning
Not sure where yo got this dream. US Customs have the most arrogant jerks in the world. They think their guns allow them to be jerks.
Most of my crossings either way are a couple of minutes- one was longer transiting through a USA airport to Canada. Another longer one was a couple of months after 9/11, transiting through USA.
During COVID hotel quautantines, i flew into Buffalo then took a cab to my quarantine site in Canada. THey asked for my passport, am i bringing anything in (they had the Arrivecan declaration), why didn't I fly to toronto - anwser - no direct flights into Canada from Bahamas (half lie- I couldn't get a COVID hotel room)- this wasn't more than two minutes.
Never once did I meet a condescending Canadian border agent. I have met several incredibly rude USA agents, one notable one in Fort Lauderdale, who asked me if i spoke english
@@rb239rtr I've only ever had 1 rude candian agent, US ones always rude
As a Canadian I am totally fine with customs doing this to you because you mentioned you were meeting a company which triggers “here to work” and I don’t want any one coming into my country to work illegally. This would happen if we said this to the United States customs too. I’m sure you’d feel the same way about your country. It is very reasonable what happened to you, the way you answered the question is in every training book to “red flag” questioning. Rules are rules.
Meeting with a company and applying for work are not the same thing in anyone's book.
The person just needs to ensure they have the right visa that captures what they plan on doing in Canada; people however coming to Canada claiming to be tourists but intending to do non-touristy stuff, forget it - go apply for the appropriate visa.
Wonder if every taxpayer can get same treatment, those from the government and flying private jets?. Always thought there used to be human rights, constitutional freedoms for citizens, privileges and respect for those deserving, and common sense or basic polite attitude for decent, law abiding folk. Well, then 2008 and 2020 happened, perennial depression, polarisation, robo-everything: I was denied service and even basic guidance by business representatives because “we only do it online”. Imagine, here’s full time employee, to me as a client representing the business. Corporate and public bureaucracy led to real alienation of employees from both life, society and product/services of labour, clients satisfaction. Certainly feels like central planners decided the pie is too small and there are too many of us
Next time you just say shopping sight seeing! Simple! Never say going to see a company.
Government bureaucrats on a power trip are another level of hell.
And don't EVER make the mistake of pissing them off!
You should have crossed illegally.
You would have been invited right in and given some welfare too. 🙄
I just can’t believe they take their jobs so seriously and can’t take a joke, everyone rebellious on the Internet and you run into complete loyalists in reality. Can start believing everyone’s microchipped or something, but it’s been like that for long time, I think it is just we have fewer religious people, instead they worship rules, more meaningless is better. It’s like they need to pay me really a lot to behave like this, or maybe it’s just some kind of fetish, they aren’t in it for the money
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTATION MY BROTHER.I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN CANADA CLOSE TO 40 YEARS, I AM GREATFUL TO THIS COUNTRY FOR HAVING GIVEN ME SHELTER ,AND COMPARE TO OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT IT IS A LOT BETTER, BUT IT IS ALSO FULL OF BULLSHIT LAWS AND REGULATIONS. THEY NEED TO CHANGE. DON'T LET THIS RIDICULOUS EXPERIENCE DETER YOU FROM COMING BACK TO CANADA AGAIN AND ENJOY THE BEAUTY THIS AMAZING COUNTRY HAS TO OFFER. CHEERS TOUGH GUY!!!!!
It’s the same in Israel. Absolute nightmare.
They should have listened first my friend.
Ahh, that whole politics thing that you'd like to avoid has no intention of avoiding you.
You're still better off than Robert Dziekański, RIP.
lol😁😁😁
😭😭😭😭😭
"fish rots from the head down"-tnx Trudeau
I guess it also has something to do with ur accent, not saying it in a racist way of course, but i believe u have more chances to be pulled if u dont have the same north american accent
Given what a bunch of politically correct pricks we have running Canada, I doubt it
There's these "border control" TV shows from various countries. Based on those + friends/colleagues experiences, what I'm 100% convinced of is to never EVER under any circumstances visit Canada or Australia. They do not want you there. Full stop. Maybe try some more welcoming places like German police headquarters, Czechia or a Swiss medical research institute.
cocooo cocooo dude; i feel so bad for u ; u ad a very bad experience and i dont blame u...arr"gants
You weren't up to any mischief and were probably spending a lot of money there. If they want to act like that, few people will bother trying to go there, and they'll lose revenue.
why on Gods green earth would you travel to a place controlled by tyrants. I would not even invest in that hell hole.
Canada is a nice place to visit. There are a few things you have to look out for. 1. You need to use a credit card or exchange money on your way into Canada to use there money. A lot of the people at the stores will try to get over on you. I had that issue in some stores that have Indians working there. Always look at your receipt and the price of the item before you buy. Don’t get mad people I’m telling what happened to me a few times. But I can always show the video if need be 😂. I never really a problem with boarder patrol
To be fair, you do exude ‘is a massive prick’ vibes.
You're acting like crossing the Canadian border is no different than travelling from Indiana to Michigan. Big mistake. Canada is not one of the US states. Frankly, your attitude stinks. The initial Canada Customs agent asked a standard series of questions. You either didn't give the correct answers or your answers raised suspicions. As for searching your car and your suitcase, hey, you're coming in from the land of guns. What do you expect? And finally, you never ever talk back to the agents, whether you're coming into Canada or returning to the US. If you weren't allowed in, and if you've decided to never return, we won't lose any sleep.
They should have Nazi like yourself on the Canadian border. It would improve the experience even more.
its look like you have no idea how its works when you cross US borders from Canada lol @@SkoniecznyMariusz
You gotta be lying bro!
Dude - Canadians are very welcoming. Something has been flagged on your passport. You do sound dodgy with your story even here on TH-cam. I’m not sure I’d trust you either with your stories about meeting CEOs and a couple of friends.
Don’t try your nonsense if you come to Australia or the Uk - it sounds like you’d be questioned and sent back.
If you were serious, you wouldn’t be voicing your disappointment on TH-cam given you’re talking about dealing with CEOs.
Let me guess - you’re annoyed because Canadian border patrol saw something dodgy on your passport and poor little you wasn’t happy.
Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Canada. If they discovered you supported the lawful and peaceful truckers’ protest they could throw you in jail with no due process.
...and they smear everybody who disagree with them as fascists. Fascists are easy to find in Canada. They just have to look in the mirror! That goes double for their prime minister.
I'm glad they flagged you for your shady inconsistent answers. Who do you think you are?
Yep u made a mistake talking about business
the real reason for the treatment you received is that you have an accent.they thought you are mexican or something. had you presented yourself as a tourist , they would have still made up a pretext to give you exactly the same treatment
Canaduh hyper politically correct nonsense, harassing the wrong people