My wishful thinking prediction is that the Six Flags group had secretively bought Marineland and part of that 1 Billion Dollar project is re-doing all of Marineland into a new Six Flags park
These additions were essentially expected. SFMM(delayed from 2024), GAdv(needed a replacement for removed coasters), Mexico(2024 model relocated) were already known to be getting coasters. SFOT had sent out a survey about a coaster and Dive was on it. Great America sent out surveys about a kids area. Carowinds had removed all their dry park water rides and clearly needed one given the heat in Charlotte. They also had sent out a survey.
Over texas will get a giga dive coaster mark my words they will want to compete with the universal kids park that is opening in 2026 the same year over texas is getting a coaster expect the longest tallest steepest dive coaster.
So are they just not going to dismantle Ka anytime soon? "unveil" is again, an interesting choice of words. Still curious as to why people are so confident KA's tower is coming down...
people at great adventure explicitly said Ka and Zumenjaro are going away permanently, and that the new launch coaster will take their place. They'll probably be going down early next year
Great adventures new ride in 2026 must definitely be a valuable replacement for kingda ka. It better be something as fun and exciting as kingda ka. Obviously it does not have to be exactly as how kingda ka was, but something else that can also be as fun and exciting as how kingda ka was like a giga thats over 300 ft tall. That will definitely be a great replacement for kingda ka.
I hope the kids area at Great America is Looney Tunes themed, the Looney Tunes have been with us since day 1 and id much prefer that than planet Snoopy
SFMM teaser posters in the park had the slogan "Epic Thrills are Cycling In." Expect a Vekoma motorbike coaster and they say first in the US, so it's likely a clone already somewhere else in the world ie.....like they did with the Vekoma Super boomerang at GAdv. Also, since this was procured by old SF legacy management and delayed, people might want to temper their expectations. Legacy SF management under Selim was not big spenders. Also, SFOT's Dive was procured likely under old SF management, though they claim record breaker . Since 2 other parks got dives recently, this was likely a 3 coaster deal with B&M, that's how old SF liked to procure rides in bulk.
The prevailing rumor for SFMM is that it's going to be a suspended motorbike coaster from Vekoma. Vekoma has the patent, but it has never been built, thus "first of its kind."
Its definitely not going to happen, but I can only hope they reuse parts of Ka to make a 500 foot launching coaster with an extension and call it something like "Kingda Ka II, Son of Ka, or Ka's Revenge" really anything less than Ka and I will be livid
Makes you wonder about the KI addition, you could call a roller coaster a family thrill attraction or they could get a family flat ride. Maybe that is just to keep people guessing what the ride will be and not spoil anything yet. I saw during the conference call someone asked them about the sf parks and they needed more money than the cf parks to get them up to where they need to be.
THE 1 BILLION IS FOR 2025 AND 2026 COMBINED, IT'S AROUND 500M EACH YEAR ABOUT, THIS WAS ALREADY STATED IN THE EARNING CONFERENCE CALL. THIS LIST DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR 1 BILLION FOR OBVIOUS REASONS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO B/C IT'S 1 BILLION OVER 2 YEARS
I still think the top hat stays and Zu just gets a new name if they decide to move away from the Golden Kingdom and retheme the whole area. The Observatory from the Chiller is still in the park, a section of Rolling Thunder is still under El Toro and El Toro uses Viper's former station, so there is some history there.
We will see something in 2027 at Cedar Point where SRF and FF were. It'll go well with the celebration of Maverick that season. Plus the love needs spread around after next season 😂
Is there any possibility that that Magic Mountain will get a Mack Hyper Coaster (I don’t think we have one in the US but it would be the first of the US)
Hopefully SFGADV gets a replacement strata with an LSM lift hill (similar to maverick & falcons flight) and a decently sized layout packed with airtime and possibly inversions. As for a park not mentioned on the list, I hope Worlds of Fun gets a revival of their former orient express coaster from Chance Rides or Vekoma.
Can't believe how bad KI got shafted. Out of all the parks, I was confident they would get a standout multilaunch coaster for 2026. If that was my home park, I would be furious. It will be interesting to see what they end up replacing Ka with. Really hope it's a world record-breaking Mack extreme spinner or Stryker coaster. Glad to see SFOT is getting some much needed love. Sad, it's another B&M dive, but I guess something is better than nothing. They really need a standout coaster. A dive coaster, imo is not what I would have put in, especially since Fiesta already has one. I'm also surprised Knotts is not getting a new coaster. They are definitely due and do enough annual revenue to warrant one. I predict SFMM will get either an axis or a vekoma flying coaster. Just my two cents.
I don't think you realize just how expensive removing Ka is going to be, not even the cost of the replacement, but just the cost of taking down a 456 foot tower. They wouldn't be spending all that money for something petty like that
The most likely thing for those parks is that the leases are terminated early. They are low performing financial parks, even lower ebidta and net income margins than the other Sf legacy parks, which lag the CF legacy parks. The EPR operating lease parks were a terrible deal made out of desperation by old Sf management to cover up the lack of organic revenue/ebidta growth. These 2 parks and the 4 stand alone EPR lease parks should be let go, which they are surely looking at as soon as possible if the penalty clauses are not prohibitive, Frontier city is an absolute disaster, the park was closed 2 days a week all summer to try to stop the money bleed. Even the days they were open it was 11 am to 7pm in the prime of summer. They took 16M in impairment on the property multiple years in a row and stated they don't expect the impairment charges to end. The OK city and houston water park have also taken significant impairment of 8 to 16M each.
@MCQ-fq6bv I'm sure if CNL (prev owner) and EPR had made better investments in the parks that they'd be better off now, but instead, they put the bare minimum and let the parks infrastructure go bad instead of maintaining their current attractions causing the removal of so many rides in the past decade or so.
@@simonandlola7713 They haven't for the reasons already mentioned. The theme park industry is a very capital intensive industry (CF has id done right how CF legacy operated vs SF legacy. Thus with the high Capex needed you have to try to maximize your ROIC(return on invested capital). CF has goal ROIC on every project, if a park misses badly they get put "in the penalty box." An example of this was Intimidator 305 at KD in 2010, that coaster severely under performed the project ROIC and thus KD went 8 years before they got another coaster. Dorney got Iron Menace in 2014 and they under performed, so they aren't getting major coaster for a while again. They are a family park with the water park as the real draw, so a thrill coaster was always a gamble to an extent. CF did market studies in the early 2012/2013 and that guided their investments in how much each park received and were prioritized. The big producers of Knotts, Cedar Point and Kings Island have continued ti get major Capex. However, those market studies are why Wonderland and Carowinds got increased Capex and multi phase development plans, including plans for hotels. Carowinds got their hotel, Wonderland's was cancelled b/c of the pandemic, but has been rekindled for the future. So, if a park post 2012/2013 market study didn't get increased investment, there is a reason, the analytics of those studies. FYI, if you're crying now, you better get the tear buckets b/c on the last earnings call Cf management reiterated in the merged company Capex will be focused on parks with the ability to the potential to produce the highest free cash flow. That means the usual suspects among Cf legacy parks and among SF legacy parks Magic Mtn and Great Adventure in particular as they severely under perform their market potential for decades. Also, among SF legacy park Great America, Fiesta Texas, Over Texas, and Over Georgia.
Great Adventure should seriously build a taller, faster and longer Strata Coaster so people won’t be too pissed
Definitely longer. Make it a full fleged ride like falcons flight (doesn't have to be that big).
If ur replacing ka it needs to be insane
Yes, a Giga to end all gigas. 385 ft tall, 360 ft. drop, 6,800 feet long with a 85 degree first drop
@@stormchaser419Gigas are overrated and it’s way too redundant to leave us with 1 launch coaster
Definitely lol. It would be lame if the new ride doesn’t live up to the hype especially since they removed such an iconic coaster for it.
My wishful thinking prediction is that the Six Flags group had secretively bought Marineland and part of that 1 Billion Dollar project is re-doing all of Marineland into a new Six Flags park
Wouldn’t it cost literally all that money to make a theme park
Time for Brandon to use the drone and scope out the waterpark for any 2026 signs 👀👀👀
I didn’t see… any of them coming
These additions were essentially expected. SFMM(delayed from 2024), GAdv(needed a replacement for removed coasters), Mexico(2024 model relocated) were already known to be getting coasters. SFOT had sent out a survey about a coaster and Dive was on it. Great America sent out surveys about a kids area. Carowinds had removed all their dry park water rides and clearly needed one given the heat in Charlotte. They also had sent out a survey.
Great adventure is getting a multi launch roller coaster
Over texas will get a giga dive coaster mark my words they will want to compete with the universal kids park that is opening in 2026 the same year over texas is getting a coaster expect the longest tallest steepest dive coaster.
Texas parks are gonna be really great...
So are they just not going to dismantle Ka anytime soon? "unveil" is again, an interesting choice of words. Still curious as to why people are so confident KA's tower is coming down...
TT2 counts as a new ride. Since KA is shut down, wouldn't KA 2.0 count as a new launch coaster for the park.
people at great adventure explicitly said Ka and Zumenjaro are going away permanently, and that the new launch coaster will take their place. They'll probably be going down early next year
It was confirmed ka is coming down
Great adventures new ride in 2026 must definitely be a valuable replacement for kingda ka. It better be something as fun and exciting as kingda ka. Obviously it does not have to be exactly as how kingda ka was, but something else that can also be as fun and exciting as how kingda ka was like a giga thats over 300 ft tall. That will definitely be a great replacement for kingda ka.
It’s gonna be a live cheetah rodeo.
I hope the kids area at Great America is Looney Tunes themed, the Looney Tunes have been with us since day 1 and id much prefer that than planet Snoopy
SFMM teaser posters in the park had the slogan "Epic Thrills are Cycling In." Expect a Vekoma motorbike coaster and they say first in the US, so it's likely a clone already somewhere else in the world ie.....like they did with the Vekoma Super boomerang at GAdv. Also, since this was procured by old SF legacy management and delayed, people might want to temper their expectations. Legacy SF management under Selim was not big spenders. Also, SFOT's Dive was procured likely under old SF management, though they claim record breaker . Since 2 other parks got dives recently, this was likely a 3 coaster deal with B&M, that's how old SF liked to procure rides in bulk.
The prevailing rumor for SFMM is that it's going to be a suspended motorbike coaster from Vekoma. Vekoma has the patent, but it has never been built, thus "first of its kind."
Its definitely not going to happen, but I can only hope they reuse parts of Ka to make a 500 foot launching coaster with an extension and call it something like "Kingda Ka II, Son of Ka, or Ka's Revenge"
really anything less than Ka and I will be livid
Six flags great adventure survived the dive coaster addition and rip ka❤
They should make a water ride thing where it goes around the whole water park while ppl can splash u
Makes you wonder about the KI addition, you could call a roller coaster a family thrill attraction or they could get a family flat ride. Maybe that is just to keep people guessing what the ride will be and not spoil anything yet. I saw during the conference call someone asked them about the sf parks and they needed more money than the cf parks to get them up to where they need to be.
THE 1 BILLION IS FOR 2025 AND 2026 COMBINED, IT'S AROUND 500M EACH YEAR ABOUT, THIS WAS ALREADY STATED IN THE EARNING CONFERENCE CALL. THIS LIST DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR 1 BILLION FOR OBVIOUS REASONS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO B/C IT'S 1 BILLION OVER 2 YEARS
Could it be a Zamperla Big Wavez?
I still think the top hat stays and Zu just gets a new name if they decide to move away from the Golden Kingdom and retheme the whole area. The Observatory from the Chiller is still in the park, a section of Rolling Thunder is still under El Toro and El Toro uses Viper's former station, so there is some history there.
We were getting Siren’s Course in mexico and instead we’re getting a Family Boomerang 🫠
Another 2 years of Kings island not getting a major coaster
I hope wonderland gets a log flume
We will see something in 2027 at Cedar Point where SRF and FF were. It'll go well with the celebration of Maverick that season. Plus the love needs spread around after next season 😂
No Giga coaster. 😞
King's Island will be THE Kiddie Capital of the World
I think Over Texas might just get the steepest drop on a dive at 95.0° beating Wrath by just 1° just one year later!
Wrath will be 96 degrees, beating out Dr. Diabolical and Iron Menace (both 95) by 1 degree.
@@ianp1745 My bad, let's go with 97.0°
over texas surveys were just suggesting a giga dive
Is there any possibility that that Magic Mountain will get a Mack Hyper Coaster (I don’t think we have one in the US but it would be the first of the US)
Hopefully SFGADV gets a replacement strata with an LSM lift hill (similar to maverick & falcons flight) and a decently sized layout packed with airtime and possibly inversions.
As for a park not mentioned on the list, I hope Worlds of Fun gets a revival of their former orient express coaster from Chance Rides or Vekoma.
Can't believe how bad KI got shafted. Out of all the parks, I was confident they would get a standout multilaunch coaster for 2026. If that was my home park, I would be furious. It will be interesting to see what they end up replacing Ka with. Really hope it's a world record-breaking Mack extreme spinner or Stryker coaster. Glad to see SFOT is getting some much needed love. Sad, it's another B&M dive, but I guess something is better than nothing. They really need a standout coaster. A dive coaster, imo is not what I would have put in, especially since Fiesta already has one. I'm also surprised Knotts is not getting a new coaster. They are definitely due and do enough annual revenue to warrant one. I predict SFMM will get either an axis or a vekoma flying coaster. Just my two cents.
I’m sure ki expected that if they bought a 30 mil giga they won’t get anything major for a while
Great adventure should get ride to happiness on steroids. Not that stupid tower coaster
the new rumored water playground for Canadas wonderland you talk about bravely before do you think it will be made by white water west for 2026
I thought they sold Great America?
No
There's two Great America's.....which one are you referring to...California or Illinois?
I have a horrible feeling they took at Ka just so it could no longer upstage Top Thrill 2.
I don't think you realize just how expensive removing Ka is going to be, not even the cost of the replacement, but just the cost of taking down a 456 foot tower. They wouldn't be spending all that money for something petty like that
THANK you......seems that since the merger Mr. ZImmerman doesn't want any other park in the new Six Flags chain to outdo their baby Cedar Point.
KI got SHAFTED
So there's still a chance that Darien Lake and Frontier City could get something although it's not owned by Six Flags?
The most likely thing for those parks is that the leases are terminated early. They are low performing financial parks, even lower ebidta and net income margins than the other Sf legacy parks, which lag the CF legacy parks. The EPR operating lease parks were a terrible deal made out of desperation by old Sf management to cover up the lack of organic revenue/ebidta growth. These 2 parks and the 4 stand alone EPR lease parks should be let go, which they are surely looking at as soon as possible if the penalty clauses are not prohibitive, Frontier city is an absolute disaster, the park was closed 2 days a week all summer to try to stop the money bleed. Even the days they were open it was 11 am to 7pm in the prime of summer. They took 16M in impairment on the property multiple years in a row and stated they don't expect the impairment charges to end. The OK city and houston water park have also taken significant impairment of 8 to 16M each.
@MCQ-fq6bv I'm sure if CNL (prev owner) and EPR had made better investments in the parks that they'd be better off now, but instead, they put the bare minimum and let the parks infrastructure go bad instead of maintaining their current attractions causing the removal of so many rides in the past decade or so.
And the smaller parks get squat!
Parks get what they get or don't get for a reason...financials, markets, potential ROIC, etc..
@ yes, they do but VF hasn’t gotten a new coaster since 2007!!! CF needs to invest in the smaller parks to keep them viable.
@@simonandlola7713 They haven't for the reasons already mentioned. The theme park industry is a very capital intensive industry (CF has id done right how CF legacy operated vs SF legacy. Thus with the high Capex needed you have to try to maximize your ROIC(return on invested capital). CF has goal ROIC on every project, if a park misses badly they get put "in the penalty box." An example of this was Intimidator 305 at KD in 2010, that coaster severely under performed the project ROIC and thus KD went 8 years before they got another coaster. Dorney got Iron Menace in 2014 and they under performed, so they aren't getting major coaster for a while again. They are a family park with the water park as the real draw, so a thrill coaster was always a gamble to an extent.
CF did market studies in the early 2012/2013 and that guided their investments in how much each park received and were prioritized. The big producers of Knotts, Cedar Point and Kings Island have continued ti get major Capex. However, those market studies are why Wonderland and Carowinds got increased Capex and multi phase development plans, including plans for hotels. Carowinds got their hotel, Wonderland's was cancelled b/c of the pandemic, but has been rekindled for the future. So, if a park post 2012/2013 market study didn't get increased investment, there is a reason, the analytics of those studies. FYI, if you're crying now, you better get the tear buckets b/c on the last earnings call Cf management reiterated in the merged company Capex will be focused on parks with the ability to the potential to produce the highest free cash flow. That means the usual suspects among Cf legacy parks and among SF legacy parks Magic Mtn and Great Adventure in particular as they severely under perform their market potential for decades. Also, among SF legacy park Great America, Fiesta Texas, Over Texas, and Over Georgia.
People are forgetting they had not mentioned the fate of Zumanjaro….so that means that Intamin will be reimagining KA.
it is not re-imagining, they have said this since. The ride will be removed and replaced with a completely new ride.
Yes they did mention Zumanjaro