I'm a bit surprised that in comparison to this, my not as new consumer grade DS918+ has a newer processor, instead of the old Atom, 4 GB standard RAM, NVMe slots, and supports hardware transcoding. Almost like the RS1219+ really should have been named RS1219j :-)
Hi Johnnie Hougaard Nielsen I agree,, the hardware in this RS1219+ is like something they put together from old parts. I knew about the 2GB RAM,, and did not care as that I am upgrading,, but the 5 years old CPU and NO NVMe,, bad surprise.. Thank you for watching! :-)
hardware transcoding is not supported because th RS lineup ist not aimed at consumers that would use it, for most business applications these are pure storage
I've said this before to a few friends, for the price of these NAS boxes (Synology & QNAP etc) you could buy a full used server & get more relibility, stability and more options!
well FreeNAS is well free, but things like UnRAID are inexpensive (89 bucks for 12 drives, 59 for 6, 130 for unlimited) and are reliable and have a similar app support if needed. Sure buying MS Server is expensive but the software that runs in a similar way to Synology stuff is pretty inexpensive
Hi bRfc9QgjclrMlc Thank You very much! Well I announced back in october,, that from 2019 it would be videos tuesday and friday :-) So really have not been anywhere.. Thank you for watching! :-)
Glad you made this video, I am currently on the edge of getting a RS1219+ for my storage needs and because it looks cool in a rack but I am not sure yet. Please let me know what you think of this NAS.
i started to build my home server in the start of 2015 , bought a raid card (LSI MegaRAID SAS 9341-8i) hoping it would work on an amd board i had, but nops. ending up having to look tru the supported motherboards to the raid card supports and ended up with a supermicro (SUPERMICRO X10SLM-F) one, 32gigs of ddr3 ram, bought a i3 (got i5 now) started out with 6 WD 3tb nas drives, expanded to 8total year after, last year i went from the WD to 4x 10TB HGST drives, then i bought a 16bay (Iwill R366 3U E-ATX 16 x HotSwap SAS/ SATA 19" RACK 600W PSU) server case and a raid expansion card (82885T Microsemi Adaptec 12 Gbps 36-port SAS Expander Card). and 2 weeks ago i got 3x 10gbit cards (RJ45 cards ) and now im looking tru the interwebs looking for a switch (managed with POE+ ) witch have the option for 4? ports of 10gbit (RJ45 or option for RJ45 module) ports on it, not easy to find to be honest and the once ive come over is pricy and mainly stackable only.
Hi Poe Lemic No there has been no attempt of bribe,, just me whining about them wanting me to showcase their products, with no benefits for me. Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Matthew Landon Thank You very much! No. 800 has just been uploaded for friday :-) I do have a problem when people comment to old videos,, I can't remember what I did in all videos :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
Hello Morten If you upgrade Ram then be sure it is compatible with RS1219 +. I tried with some Crucial Ram, but after some time, the RS1219 went down and I needed support to help get it up and running again. / Frank G. Olesen
Hi Morten I bought an RS1219 + with 8 GB Ram and added 8 GB DDR3L Ram from Crucial. But that didn't work. I think I have to buy Synology Ram, but it seem to be hard to get a one Synology 8 GB. /Frank
I’m using a Dell poweredge 2950 ii with 2 quad core 2.66 xenon 16gb of ram updated the sas card to support 4tb drives and runnin anointed sas card with unraid for 32 tb of storage the old server cost me 100 dollars I’ve spent more in my drives but it’s a great machine for my use
Hi Larry Jones Thank You very much! This will do a good job,, I have a ton of servers,, and I still choose to get this instead of using an old server,, I do have two Dell 2950... Thank you for watching! :-)
If it were me, I'm not sure I'd spend so much on something with that little potential. I'd probably just build a PC and then put ESXi and have Xpenology on it. Lot of people would be interested in watching that installed with the resolving of the DSM problem.
I've got a DS1517+ and have installed a Intel X520-2DA works no problem :-) . I've done FreeNAS and also a CentOS based file server after selling my DS1515+ but went back to Synology.
Hi David Something Thank You very much! They do work well,, this one was just bloody expensive for this kind of outdated hardware. Thank you for watching! :-)
HEY Morten Try putting a RAID Controller inside of it. to get it to see your NetApp Storage Box or maybe your HPE Storeonce 6500 I think it will be a fun project
Hi jack99097 Thank You very much! some of the bigger models do have a raid controller for externally connecting expanding boxes. Thank you for watching! :-)
For those who are saying, 'You could have bought X and use freenas on it' keep in mind that this device is incredibly energy efficient, in the long term it will be saving the money you spend on it. however if you could find me a similar box with better specs that also sucks less than 60 watts, let me know :)
amd has a new soc i really hope someone brings back the original idea of the hp microserver. a cheap small server that ticked all the boxes but performance and made a awsome soho or nas server. My N36L from 2011 is only just about to be retired to backup duty and it still beats most cheap 4 bay nas's if i had a N56L id keep it for another 4 years.
Why just why...... that's a total ripoff, old hardware for way to much money. For that money you could by a couple harddrives for your HP Storage system or pay the power bill for it running at least for 2 years at full blast. I bought for way less money a dell r710 with and a netapp ds4243, i am running freenas and i can tell you that thing rocks... I understand you like synology products, and yes it's your money but man that ripoff.....
Hi Horst Zimmermann Thank You very much! I do have all the nice stuff you are writing about. This box is way overpriced,, but I do believe it's going to do okay. Thank you for watching! :-)
Main reason why someone would look at something like this instead of a dell r710 is chassis depth... at almost half of the dell, it is not easy to find a 2U that would fit 8 external drives in a 12 inches deep chassis. And if you do you will have to do a mix and match. I could be wrong but if you know of a 12inch deep chassis that can do all this for less money (and even can be used as a basis plex or cam server) I would love to know, since I am looking for one. Only alternative is to buy everything separately but even finding a 12inch deep chassis is a challenge (with 8 drive bays). I just wish this box had a bit better HW
Those specs are fine for a low demand home system (you wouldn't have a rack mount for that) but for a small business or any high demand situation. No. The 418Play is probably a better system for that use type. Anything which goes in a rack should have a Xeon minimum.
Didn't think Synology would be that greedy and not let you keep one after reviewing it - buying one like you did means you can say whatever you want about it.
I decided to go with a Lenovo SA120 DAS and connect it to an HP Microserver via external SAS. Much more cost effective and much more expansion than these Synology's (although the Synology software is very easy to use).
if u need the rack mount form factor, well that sucks. but that board is weak. i would use a big case, with a game competent main board, and instal drive cages in the case and use that as a server. not that over expensive weak thing
The DS1618+ unit has DDR4 ram and can support NVME or M2 ssd BUT has 6 bays internally and is a desktop model, I'm kind of surprised that the 1618+ has DDR4 and the RS1219+ has DDR3....
Give it back! Just buy a DROBO or build a NAS, which will be good for your needs. Keep up your good work, but not with this overpriced piece of metal. All the best, Pepe PS if you like an alternative to FreeNas, try OpenMediaVault
Yes the hardware is no powerhouse but it does the work - you dont need more power for the tasks its capable. Its a NAS with ISCSI if you buy one of another vendor like EMC Isilon you pay much more for less. Its a good value for money as long as you dont build a free nas ;)
It seems a bit overpriced. Though, if it uses DDR3 or DDR4 really wouldn't effect performance much, since the system is likely held back greatly by the network connection in comparison. But I personally would have liked seeing a few improvements to the product before I would consider buying it for 1300 USD. First thing is that I would like to see 12 drive bays on the front, or at least 10, since as stated, rack space is expensive, and there could have been at least 2 more drive bays on the unit instead of a blank plate on the front panel.... Second thing that would be nice is to have at least one 10 Gb/s network port as standard, since a 10 Gb/s network chip isn't all that expensive.... Quad 1 Gb/s ports is just a hassle to manage and eats up room on network switches. And lastly, redundant and hot swappable power supplies. (Since dead power supplies seems to be the main issue for why Synology boxes dies....)
I upgraded from FreeNas back in 2011,,, I came from a Novel Netware file server to a virtual freeNas, and then I coughed up the cash to get a Synology DS411j. and here 8 years later,, I upgraded that.,, actually sold the DS411j for $80 to.
I would not recommend WD Drives as they fail more often than others according to www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html I use HGST (which belong to WD but are made in separate factories) and to address the FreeNAS topic: I used it for 2 years and it performed very bad, network stack was crashing regular, and more... not suitable for production enviroments! So I switched over to Ubuntu and imported the ZFS, everything works now
The software is licensed under GPL which means that there is no real need to pay for the software, you're free to grab a copy and use it if you like - which means that it's a lot of cash to pay for not all that impressive hardware. The way I see it, you're paying for a turnkey product and some warranty and support.
Not worth it for sure. They should update the components for the cost. I do understand why you bought it. Personally I would never buy one. I think you should be able to buy the software separately but I guess it would cost the same as buying the server, since they would charge a fortune for the software alone. I really should say much about buying over priced tech since I have a LG V30 phone and receive a Surface Pro 6 for Christmas.
The RS1221+ now finally has a more useful CPU, but the lack of NVMe slots is still there. And the PCIe interface is severely limiting the NVMe/10g card if you put two SSDs, most likely the non-rack version with the built-in slots would be faster, besides cheaper. The CPU (4core) is also still overwhelmed if you run a virtual DSM for ransomware protection plus antivirus. You can constantly see it run short of breath. Nonetheless: it works, and if you can get the (overpriced) model with 2 PSU, it is a clean entry to professional hardware. For that, i find it a good choice. The downsides don't outweigh anything.
@@MyPlayHouse RAM is damn expensive if you buy it as a mortal like myself :/ put 16GB into my DS918+, would do again. I would be quite interested in a topic where, if you know how, you run a local dns server to resolve local names to local ips/ports like for example running some documentation wiki for yourself or other small services like LogicalDOC for your personal documents, without typing the ip:port every time you want to connect to it, when it runs e.g. in a docker container on that synology box. Another cool topic would be firewalls with pfSense :) Have a nice day.
I hope you're not going to rack mount it - synology's rackmount kit is optional ... And yes - its overpriced - But that's what you get when you buy something ready made.
Hi skyhawk311 Yes I can,, I did not want to.. I am building a 70 drive storages server,, the Synology has another purpose. (it's the race car drivers daily driver) Thank you for watching! :-)
I know there's no warranty this way, but you could have gone with xpenology.org/ and a 12 bay 2u chassis. At least you'd know that you could fix/replace the hardware yourself.
Lol $1500 for a mini pc without hard drives!!! JOG ON SON LOL... I have a ReadyNAS RNDU6000 I bought for £250 in 2012 and running the latest OS 6.9.4 I’ve got 6 2TB WD RED drives in it.
No way!!!!.... With that kind of money you can buy a Dell or HP Storage Work server that will out last this unit. We have one at work its total garbage. But its good to make videos and show others. LOL
span.com is the worst "review" channel out there. He just sits there and reads the spec sheet. I've seen several of his videos and I think it's a complete joke. You have some experience with what you're talking about and doing, at least. His channel doesn't compare to yours at all.
Technically Synology still wins because you are making this video and you gave them money when you bought the product LOL. Have you tried FreeNAS before? EDIT: Question Answered about FreeNAS 18:04
Hmm hvis du vil reklamere for et produkt skal du have penge for det ellers er der ingen reklame!!!!!!! DK Hmm if you want to advertise a product you need money for it otherwise there is no advertising !!!!!!! UK
HI Longisland WorkShop My channel is English, and to make sure as many as possible, can also enjoy the comments, they are also English. Please keep to English. Thank you for watching! :-)
You pay for the functionality and software and get hardware for free. I really want a xeon based synology but 3000 euros for the DiskStation DS3617xs is #¤% !%#&f# expensive for the quite weak cpu compared to a brand new hp ml gen10 server for 3000euros ;)
Hy Morten you can use (pay) this M2 Adapter www.synology.com/en-global/products/M2D18 than you can use 2 M2 SSDs Specs: www.synology.com/en-global/products/RS1219+#specs Have Fun i use a slow 814 Model 🙃 Synology Model XY Withe a + = Intel cpu witout + ARM Slow CPU...
Yes It is kind of funny,, just one 1Gbit connection can handle about 110MB/s so even with all four 1Gbit connection bundled together,, absolute max is 440MB/s out that way. a normal HDD can deliver 110MB/s, and if you have a raid of more than 4 drives they should also be able to deliver 440MB/s,,, so if you put in just one SSD in one of the slots instead of a HDD.. well the limit will be the network. So if you put in a PCI card with two M.2 SSD ,,, you will get better I/O but it not sertuan that you will see much improved file transfers. And if you put in a 10Gbit card, you need SSD in the NAS to use that.
Hoooooly crap that is overpriced. Old hardware and shitty specs. I think you really fooled yourself here. I would have delivered it back and bought something else.
I'm a bit surprised that in comparison to this, my not as new consumer grade DS918+ has a newer processor, instead of the old Atom, 4 GB standard RAM, NVMe slots, and supports hardware transcoding. Almost like the RS1219+ really should have been named RS1219j :-)
Hi Johnnie Hougaard Nielsen
I agree,, the hardware in this RS1219+ is like something they put together from old parts. I knew about the 2GB RAM,, and did not care as that I am upgrading,, but the 5 years old CPU and NO NVMe,, bad surprise..
Thank you for watching! :-)
hardware transcoding is not supported because th RS lineup ist not aimed at consumers that would use it, for most business applications these are pure storage
I've said this before to a few friends, for the price of these NAS boxes (Synology & QNAP etc) you could buy a full used server & get more relibility, stability and more options!
Sure, but not the software.. or well, xpenology exists but would not count on it beeing stable.
well FreeNAS is well free, but things like UnRAID are inexpensive (89 bucks for 12 drives, 59 for 6, 130 for unlimited) and are reliable and have a similar app support if needed. Sure buying MS Server is expensive but the software that runs in a similar way to Synology stuff is pretty inexpensive
Hi Mark Stubbs
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YES Morten Is Back !! Needed s playhouse fix!
Hi bRfc9QgjclrMlc
Thank You very much! Well I announced back in october,, that from 2019 it would be videos tuesday and friday :-) So really have not been anywhere..
Thank you for watching! :-)
synology be like: yo dawg we heard you like unboxings so we gave you a box to unbox before unboxing your box
Hi meh757
Thank You very much! That is the enterprise part of this NAS,, a redundant box :-)
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IMHO that system should not be payed over 400€, ¿1400€? hell overpriced! for that amount you could get second-hand enterprice-level NAS over ebay.
Hi Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana
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For everyone complaining, watch the last few minutes of the video to get an explanation of why. It's completely understandable, in my opinion.
Hi scottaboshia
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Glad you made this video, I am currently on the edge of getting a RS1219+ for my storage needs and because it looks cool in a rack but I am not sure yet. Please let me know what you think of this NAS.
Hi RonkerZ
Thank You very much! it irritates me, that you get better hardware in cheaper, home consumer products.
Thank you for watching! :-)
i started to build my home server in the start of 2015 , bought a raid card (LSI MegaRAID SAS 9341-8i) hoping it would work on an amd board i had, but nops.
ending up having to look tru the supported motherboards to the raid card supports and ended up with a supermicro (SUPERMICRO X10SLM-F) one, 32gigs of ddr3 ram, bought a i3 (got i5 now) started out with 6 WD 3tb nas drives, expanded to 8total year after, last year i went from the WD to 4x 10TB HGST drives, then i bought a 16bay (Iwill R366 3U E-ATX 16 x HotSwap SAS/ SATA 19" RACK 600W PSU) server case and a raid expansion card (82885T Microsemi Adaptec 12 Gbps 36-port SAS Expander Card). and 2 weeks ago i got 3x 10gbit cards (RJ45 cards ) and now im looking tru the interwebs looking for a switch (managed with POE+ ) witch have the option for 4? ports of 10gbit (RJ45 or option for RJ45 module) ports on it, not easy to find to be honest and the once ive come over is pricy and mainly stackable only.
Hi kvalsvik
Thank You very much! You have a lot of stuff as well :-)
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I hear you. I started with synology. Built a FreeNAS box. And use both of them. Can't get rid of synology.
Hi stuart
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you're paying for the heavy case. If u want a high power rack mount u will need to sell you're house.
Hi bjtaudio
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I was thinking about buying one, but, after watching this, I sure won't now. I think you are right that they are trying to BRIBE YOU.
Hi Poe Lemic
No there has been no attempt of bribe,, just me whining about them wanting me to showcase their products, with no benefits for me.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Ohhhh nice. A new toy. Just realised that you have almost have 800 videos wowww!!!
Hi Matthew Landon
Thank You very much! No. 800 has just been uploaded for friday :-) I do have a problem when people comment to old videos,, I can't remember what I did in all videos :-)
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Hello Morten
If you upgrade Ram then be sure it is compatible with RS1219 +.
I tried with some Crucial Ram, but after some time, the RS1219 went down and I needed support to help get it up and running again.
/ Frank G. Olesen
Hi Frank Gade Olesen
Thank You very much! it has to be "DDR3L" ram. Mine has been upgraded,, the video is a few weeks out.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Morten
I bought an RS1219 + with 8 GB Ram and added 8 GB DDR3L Ram from
Crucial. But that didn't work. I think I have to buy Synology Ram, but it seem to be hard to get a one Synology 8 GB.
/Frank
Nice video Morten (as usual)! I wonder if Synology will react to it in any way? Maybe they will offer to exchange/upgrade it...
Hi Robert Schrader
Thank You very much! I would not expect Synology to want to do anything..
Thank you for watching! :-)
They absolutely will not especially after an honest.review from an IT expert..they only give boxes to people who will give biased glowing reviews
I’m using a Dell poweredge 2950 ii with 2 quad core 2.66 xenon 16gb of ram updated the sas card to support 4tb drives and runnin anointed sas card with unraid for 32 tb of storage the old server cost me 100 dollars I’ve spent more in my drives but it’s a great machine for my use
Hi Larry Jones
Thank You very much! This will do a good job,, I have a ton of servers,, and I still choose to get this instead of using an old server,, I do have two Dell 2950...
Thank you for watching! :-)
If it were me, I'm not sure I'd spend so much on something with that little potential. I'd probably just build a PC and then put ESXi and have Xpenology on it. Lot of people would be interested in watching that installed with the resolving of the DSM problem.
Hi Poe Lemic
Thank You very much! I did those videos like two years ago.. :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I've got a DS1517+ and have installed a Intel X520-2DA works no problem :-) . I've done FreeNAS and also a CentOS based file server after selling my DS1515+ but went back to Synology.
Hi David Something
Thank You very much! They do work well,, this one was just bloody expensive for this kind of outdated hardware.
Thank you for watching! :-)
HEY Morten
Try putting a RAID Controller inside of it. to get it to see your NetApp Storage Box or maybe your HPE Storeonce 6500
I think it will be a fun project
Hi jack99097
Thank You very much! some of the bigger models do have a raid controller for externally connecting expanding boxes.
Thank you for watching! :-)
For those who are saying, 'You could have bought X and use freenas on it' keep in mind that this device is incredibly energy efficient, in the long term it will be saving the money you spend on it. however if you could find me a similar box with better specs that also sucks less than 60 watts, let me know :)
Hi RonkerZ
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Yeah, was "somewhat" what I was suggesting about building your own device much cheaper (18:18) ... Great mind think alike ...
I did that for years,,, I am here now,, and like that someone else did all the work.
amd has a new soc i really hope someone brings back the original idea of the hp microserver. a cheap small server that ticked all the boxes but performance and made a awsome soho or nas server. My N36L from 2011 is only just about to be retired to backup duty and it still beats most cheap 4 bay nas's if i had a N56L id keep it for another 4 years.
Hi 88djdmepfdnkjf94
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Why just why...... that's a total ripoff, old hardware for way to much money.
For that money you could by a couple harddrives for your HP Storage system or pay the power bill for it running at least for 2 years at full blast.
I bought for way less money a dell r710 with and a netapp ds4243, i am running freenas and i can tell you that thing rocks...
I understand you like synology products, and yes it's your money but man that ripoff.....
Hi Horst Zimmermann
Thank You very much! I do have all the nice stuff you are writing about. This box is way overpriced,, but I do believe it's going to do okay.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Main reason why someone would look at something like this instead of a dell r710 is chassis depth... at almost half of the dell, it is not easy to find a 2U that would fit 8 external drives in a 12 inches deep chassis. And if you do you will have to do a mix and match. I could be wrong but if you know of a 12inch deep chassis that can do all this for less money (and even can be used as a basis plex or cam server) I would love to know, since I am looking for one. Only alternative is to buy everything separately but even finding a 12inch deep chassis is a challenge (with 8 drive bays). I just wish this box had a bit better HW
Those specs are fine for a low demand home system (you wouldn't have a rack mount for that) but for a small business or any high demand situation. No. The 418Play is probably a better system for that use type. Anything which goes in a rack should have a Xeon minimum.
Hi Andy Lee
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Have you experienced many thermal issues with your NVMe drives? Apparently under load they can reach temperatures of around 80 degrees Celsius!
Hi Alex Smith
Thank You very much! NO non at all.
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Didn't think Synology would be that greedy and not let you keep one after reviewing it - buying one like you did means you can say whatever you want about it.
Hi Hunter's Moon
Thank You very much! not sure they would like this unboxing,, or my conclusion.
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I decided to go with a Lenovo SA120 DAS and connect it to an HP Microserver via external SAS. Much more cost effective and much more expansion than these Synology's (although the Synology software is very easy to use).
Hi The 33rd Zoidberg
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if u need the rack mount form factor, well that sucks. but that board is weak. i would use a big case, with a game competent main board, and instal drive cages in the case and use that as a server. not that over expensive weak thing
Hi Ashmeed Mohammed
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not a bad box for basic file storage needs. Could be a few hundred bucks less cheaper.
Hi xmdude626
Thank You very much! compared to the DS1819+ I think this RS1219+ is about $400 to expensive.
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The DS1618+ unit has DDR4 ram and can support NVME or M2 ssd BUT has 6 bays internally and is a desktop model, I'm kind of surprised that the 1618+ has DDR4 and the RS1219+ has DDR3....
Hi johns touchpad
Yes it is as if a RS1213+ just got a new label,,, and a prices bump.
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1:23 lol good to know. Cg on new box
Hi pierre Beauregard
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I've been looking at buying Synology for while but think it looks cheap and over priced.
Thanks for the great review Morten
Hi Gavlaar
Thank You very much! They do actually work well..
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a great video - i use 2 19" Synology Boxes and they work very well :)
Hi specialpaul
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@@MyPlayHouse I like your other videos, too :)
Give it back! Just buy a DROBO or build a NAS, which will be good for your needs.
Keep up your good work, but not with this overpriced piece of metal.
All the best, Pepe
PS if you like an alternative to FreeNas, try OpenMediaVault
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Wow, its like a mac. Expensive and old components :p
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Yes the hardware is no powerhouse but it does the work - you dont need more power for the tasks its capable. Its a NAS with ISCSI if you buy one of another vendor like EMC Isilon you pay much more for less. Its a good value for money as long as you dont build a free nas ;)
Hi For4Reel
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They pick CPUs by their power consumption, not speed. So this can be understandable, but missing NVMe not :-) I miss second power source as well.
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The price of that box could have bought you some 50TB of harddisk space here in merry old Krautland. o.0
Will that bugger ever earn its price?
Hi Eo Tunun
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It seems a bit overpriced.
Though, if it uses DDR3 or DDR4 really wouldn't effect performance much, since the system is likely held back greatly by the network connection in comparison.
But I personally would have liked seeing a few improvements to the product before I would consider buying it for 1300 USD.
First thing is that I would like to see 12 drive bays on the front, or at least 10, since as stated, rack space is expensive, and there could have been at least 2 more drive bays on the unit instead of a blank plate on the front panel....
Second thing that would be nice is to have at least one 10 Gb/s network port as standard, since a 10 Gb/s network chip isn't all that expensive.... Quad 1 Gb/s ports is just a hassle to manage and eats up room on network switches.
And lastly, redundant and hot swappable power supplies. (Since dead power supplies seems to be the main issue for why Synology boxes dies....)
Hi Today on the Bench
Thank You very much! Yes it is as if I really paid for more than what I have gotten.
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@@MyPlayHouse Always nice to see new videos.
Might be a little more of an expense, but I’m Buffalo Technology fan. I have been wanting to try Synology though.
Well more videos are comming.
Ripped off, you say? Can it play Fortnight? LOL, great video
Hi DialM4Microcontrollr
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With that money you get a beast freenas build disks included 😀🔅🔅🔅
I upgraded from FreeNas back in 2011,,, I came from a Novel Netware file server to a virtual freeNas, and then I coughed up the cash to get a Synology DS411j. and here 8 years later,, I upgraded that.,, actually sold the DS411j for $80 to.
Qnap is very good as well!
Hi William Kish
Thank You very much! I had one of each,, but that was a mess to work with.
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Qnap has nice hardware, but their sw is piece of crap
Hi, have you ever tried Xpenology? You could make a video about if you like it👍
Had to move this video,, after getting a strike here on YT for it : www.diytube.video/v/3644
I would not recommend WD Drives as they fail more often than others according to www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html I use HGST (which belong to WD but are made in separate factories) and to address the FreeNAS topic: I used it for 2 years and it performed very bad, network stack was crashing regular, and more... not suitable for production enviroments! So I switched over to Ubuntu and imported the ZFS, everything works now
Hi Kaai Kivi
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Usually these m.2 NVMe SSDs are only PCIe x4, but of course that doesn't help much in this case.
PS: Description says: RS1214+
Hi 15fakeaccount
Thank You very much! Oops,, I have fixed that,, the hardware could be from 2014,, so,,,,
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You can use it on a network rack 😀🔅
Hi Tudo Sobre Bitcoins
Yes It is rack mountable..
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Hi Morten you are saying RS1214+ in the first part of your description don't you mean RS1219+?
Hi WoTpro
Thank You very much! Yes I have fixed that,, but well the hardware could have been from 2014,,,,
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Hehe nice ... But with freenass you can do :
It's a joke... :)
Hi Matias M.
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Synology's price is high, but you are paying for their software, however this is why I built my own instead of buying another one :) Enjoy :)
No... thats making money for Synology...
Is only for that matter.
The software is licensed under GPL which means that there is no real need to pay for the software, you're free to grab a copy and use it if you like - which means that it's a lot of cash to pay for not all that impressive hardware.
The way I see it, you're paying for a turnkey product and some warranty and support.
Hi Unkyjoe's Playhouse
Thank You very much! IT is as if the one you got was better priced. and BTW you paid $5,, thanx :-)
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:) If you like what you got for what you paid, then that is all the matters :) Great Vid
Not worth it for sure. They should update the components for the cost. I do understand why you bought it. Personally I would never buy one. I think you should be able to buy the software separately but I guess it would cost the same as buying the server, since they would charge a fortune for the software alone. I really should say much about buying over priced tech since I have a LG V30 phone and receive a Surface Pro 6 for Christmas.
Hi Scott Downey
Thank You very much! We paid enough for this,, that is for sure.
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The RS1221+ now finally has a more useful CPU, but the lack of NVMe slots is still there. And the PCIe interface is severely limiting the NVMe/10g card if you put two SSDs, most likely the non-rack version with the built-in slots would be faster, besides cheaper.
The CPU (4core) is also still overwhelmed if you run a virtual DSM for ransomware protection plus antivirus. You can constantly see it run short of breath.
Nonetheless: it works, and if you can get the (overpriced) model with 2 PSU, it is a clean entry to professional hardware.
For that, i find it a good choice. The downsides don't outweigh anything.
I am pissed at $ynology after they striked my channel.
@@MyPlayHouse good to know
Their bad, playing with the reputation
Didn't you have a 4GB RAM Stick hidden in your NAS at home as a backup?
No,, that is in use..
@@MyPlayHouse RAM is damn expensive if you buy it as a mortal like myself :/ put 16GB into my DS918+, would do again. I would be quite interested in a topic where, if you know how, you run a local dns server to resolve local names to local ips/ports like for example running some documentation wiki for yourself or other small services like LogicalDOC for your personal documents, without typing the ip:port every time you want to connect to it, when it runs e.g. in a docker container on that synology box. Another cool topic would be firewalls with pfSense :) Have a nice day.
More RAM in the next video on this :-)
Send it back get you're money back and get a Qnap :P
Hi Mr Dashpuppy
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Can you get a unit from FreeNAS and see how that goes for you?
I upgraded from FreeNas back in 2011..
I hope you're not going to rack mount it - synology's rackmount kit is optional ...
And yes - its overpriced - But that's what you get when you buy something ready made.
Hi Keith Lee
Thank You very much! Yes,, why do they sell a rack box and no rails!!
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Come on Mort, u can build your own nascar with better hardware and cheaper and virtualize symbology or will does sever with storage spaces.
Hi skyhawk311
Yes I can,, I did not want to.. I am building a 70 drive storages server,, the Synology has another purpose. (it's the race car drivers daily driver)
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Great moment.............
Hi António Manuel Fidalgo
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Its expensive as its rack mounted. u always pay way more for rack mount that the cheap plastic consumer rubbish that may have a faster cpu
Well if it sales,, it might be worth the money.
I know there's no warranty this way, but you could have gone with xpenology.org/ and a 12 bay 2u chassis. At least you'd know that you could fix/replace the hardware yourself.
Hi asshopo
Thank You very much! I am building a big one right next to this one..
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Lol $1500 for a mini pc without hard drives!!! JOG ON SON LOL... I have a ReadyNAS RNDU6000 I bought for £250 in 2012 and running the latest OS 6.9.4 I’ve got 6 2TB WD RED drives in it.
Hi Joe Goés
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No way!!!!.... With that kind of money you can buy a Dell or HP Storage Work server that will out last this unit. We have one at work its total garbage. But its good to make videos and show others. LOL
Hi Juan Castillo
Thank You very much! It's not bad,, just to expensive..
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will you return it?
Hi Mikat
No it's going to do an okay job,, it was just to expensive,, for that outdated hardware.
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1500 USD and no 10Gbit. Me not approve
Hi Electro Squid
Yes these does seam way to expensive! glad you liked the video :-)
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span.com is the worst "review" channel out there. He just sits there and reads the spec sheet. I've seen several of his videos and I think it's a complete joke. You have some experience with what you're talking about and doing, at least. His channel doesn't compare to yours at all.
Hi John Kristian Aasen
Thank You very much! I probably should have read the spec sheet a bit more closely myself :-/
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It is WAY overpriced. Even if you don't want to use FreeNAS, you could have built your own server for much less than that.
Hi Chris Moore
Thank You very much! I am also doing that..
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I would go with synology... freenas is ok, but freeBSD is almost dead now so future support is not looking so good.
Hi Gprime31
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if that your production..... OMG
Hi chuck70k
Yes,, that is where I am going to be keeping my videos,, or one of the copies. What did you think?
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@4:30 USB *3.0* X 2
Hi Guust
Thank You very much! two of each,, I messed that up! - glad you liked the video :-)
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Technically Synology still wins because you are making this video and you gave them money when you bought the product LOL. Have you tried FreeNAS before?
EDIT: Question Answered about FreeNAS 18:04
Hi Matheson Steplock
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£1115 or $1445 for that thing
Hi Hunter's Moon
Yep
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I give you 400 euros for it. It's the right value for a metal crappy nas 😂😂😂
Not for sale..
Junk CPU, no pre-built NVME SSD slots, no pre-built 10Gbit ethernet ports. all cheap components.
Hi Kelvin KMS
Thank You very much! well I do also believe it's a bit overpriced,, like some $4-500
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Hmm hvis du vil reklamere for et produkt skal du have penge for det ellers er der ingen reklame!!!!!!! DK
Hmm if you want to advertise a product you need money for it otherwise there is no advertising !!!!!!! UK
HI Longisland WorkShop
My channel is English, and to make sure as many as possible, can also enjoy the comments, they are also English.
Please keep to English.
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You pay for the functionality and software and get hardware for free. I really want a xeon based synology but 3000 euros for the DiskStation DS3617xs is #¤% !%#&f# expensive for the quite weak cpu compared to a brand new hp ml gen10 server for 3000euros ;)
Hi Marten0615
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Hy Morten you can use (pay) this M2 Adapter www.synology.com/en-global/products/M2D18 than you can use 2 M2 SSDs
Specs: www.synology.com/en-global/products/RS1219+#specs
Have Fun i use a slow 814 Model 🙃
Synology Model XY Withe a + = Intel cpu witout + ARM Slow CPU...
Yes It is kind of funny,, just one 1Gbit connection can handle about 110MB/s so even with all four 1Gbit connection bundled together,, absolute max is 440MB/s out that way. a normal HDD can deliver 110MB/s, and if you have a raid of more than 4 drives they should also be able to deliver 440MB/s,,, so if you put in just one SSD in one of the slots instead of a HDD.. well the limit will be the network. So if you put in a PCI card with two M.2 SSD ,,, you will get better I/O but it not sertuan that you will see much improved file transfers. And if you put in a 10Gbit card, you need SSD in the NAS to use that.
These are just like apple computers just polished turds all a distraction for their old under powered hardware.
Hi Balla21
Well let's see, when we get to play with it.
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To be honest, it is really overpriced.
Hi Jeff Chen
Thank You very much! compared to the DS1819+ I think this RS1219+ is about $400 to expensive.
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You guess my comment abou freenas heheh 😀🔅🔅🔅
I upgraded from freenas back in 2011 :-)
Mort return it for refund
Hi skyhawk311
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Hoooooly crap that is overpriced. Old hardware and shitty specs. I think you really fooled yourself here. I would have delivered it back and bought something else.
Hi John Kristian Aasen
Thank You very much! compared to the DS1819+ I think this RS1219+ is about $400 to expensive.
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FARTOLOGY
ahh just to expensive..
first
Hi Steven Long
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