Why Filmmakers MUST USE an ND Filter (Sony FX3, BMPCC, Sony FX6)
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The ND filter topic is nothing new. People talk about it a lot. In this video I tried to compile everything I know into one video! Hope you find this useful 🙂
I spent the day watching videos about VND. Ones of the best and most informative video around!! FINALLY!!!
Thanks for this man!🫶🏻
Love it, great info!🙌🏼
Thanks shredder!
Toffe uitleg! Lekker bezig Sjoerd!
Thanks man!
Ive been using the freewell variable ND's for the most part recently and i like them, but am very tempted to move to mattebox ND filter systems, that NISI one looks lovely!
Its a great system. To my knowledge almost 0 color shift, which is great!
Thanks for your lucid explanation regarding ND filters & real life example of your utilization of such. 😎😎
Cheers mate!
Don't have a favorite yet, came to learn how they work. Day 2 of my fledgling filmmaker journey. Great video!
Thats amazing to hear man. Best of luck on this incredibly rewarding journey!
Bravoooooooooo! Great video, bro. My favorite filter is nisi as well. Quality is quality, and yes, I watch your videos all the way through 😄. Peace ☮️
Cheers bud! Indeed. Q=Q! hehe. You've got the icons to prove it!
@@SjoerdWess haha, always!
Team Nisi here 🫡
The new C5 is just perfect ! Great video man.
I know man! Such good quality. Not saying this about brands often, haha. Thanks for watching dude🙏🏼🙏🏼
Watched it all the way of course but since I've not used any filters yet I can't give you my favourite :)
Well, at least you've got some basic info under your belt now! Thanks mate!
Gret video mate, I do like the separation on your main talking head , did you use Depth map in Resolve any chance? keep up the good work
All done in camera!
Great video! I haven’t invested in many filters, so I just have a tiffen variable nd. I would love to upgrade to one that has accurate stop markings and hard stops on the ends. (It’s also annoying during lens changes, so it’s not the best option, I wonder what would be the ideal solution for lens changes to not be annoying?)
Steven! Thanks a lot man.
I'd say always get an 82mm thread so you can get away with one filter. Just get used to the screwing bit. Its annoying, but until this day nothing came out that takes that away. There are mechnatic filters, but they are still not good enough imo.
Such a luck to find you! Keep going
Thanks mate
Great video, like always. What about filter mounting order?
First (near sensor) IR cut, than effect filter (like mist or something like that) and last VND/ND am I right?
I have done loads of tests and there were no differences in image quality. So my guess is that it doesn't matter that much.
Informative, practical and smoothly presented info, Sjoerd. Have had satisfactory results from Hoya filters, but only used on still photography. A few still cams tout “internal ND filter” but I suspect that the effect is merely electronic, not optic. Effective use of blurring background when text is displayed - don’t remember you using that effect before. Minor item: at about 7:38, “favourtire” should read “favorite”😊. Background bulb and lit area on the wall = example of “practical lighting”; did I get that right from one of your prior vids? Cheers!
Youre correct! Thought it was fun to use the practice to make it look like it created that leak on the wall. While in fact it was another light entirely. Haha. I always get confused with favou/favorite… haha
Just a matter of British vs American English. We Dutchies get taught the British version so he's not wrong :) I agree with the background bulb, love it!
Sjoerd comin’ in hot with the ND knowledge
You knowwwwww
Great work just had to find the Easter Egg
Often rocking the cheap K&N filters, they sort of work, wih the polar built in. Also one without extra polar. No X pattern and hard stop, but greenish shift on the polar version, which when adjusted in cam WB is acceptable. But am looking for some Peter Mckinnon elements and maybe bite the bullet and go for the matte box kit with all nd's and filters. It looks legit
K&f has been my go to for a long time! I loved them indeed!
Masterclass :) also fun fact - did you know that fujix100v has a built in ND filter as well haha so much for high end cinema cameras lol :) great video brotha
Lol for real?! I didnt know that! Thats so cool! Thanks my friend!
Concerning the absence of color shift, does that also count for the VND filter from NiSi?
It does have some. But it's very managable!
HEY THERE COULD YOU PLEASE TELL THE MUSIC USED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO OF " WATCHMAKER'S EYE "
Cant remember the title!
Watched till the end here..😊
Legend!
can i used small rig mattebox fot that nd fliter?
As long as its 4x5.65 filters you can. The smallrig uses these sizes
3:30 - the Kinefinity mavo Edge cameras also have internal variable ND🤙🏻
Ahhhh, forgot about that one!
I'm not necessarily loving it, but that's just cause I'm making due with it. It's the Cinema Hard Stop VND V2. It's just simple and "affordable" compared to the good ones.
If it gives you good images… all that matters in the end!
Once a store recommended the Hoya variable ND. actually not the best with to much vignetting. Even tough now I have a newer version of the Hoya, the,Density II and it is way better. But I don't have a comparison with others. Up till now I am happy with it.
Ive had that one too. Im tbh most happy with the K&F ND's when looking at the price!
For my workflow my favorite its definitely a variable nd
now I just need to learn how to properly use it when outdoors and what f stop is better 😂
Haha cheers! If I can help, shoot me a message;-)
ND filters definitely helps motion blur becoming natural. But with that said, only a few regular viewers (not cinematographers) can actually spot it. Actually, I just DP'ed a film and we just won best cinematography and best film in a local film fest. That's without using an ND filter because the budget was very tight lol. What's funny was that our film was actually one of the lowest budget film entries and we still won it. I suspect that they didn't notice the unnatural motion blur (very fast shutter speed on outdoor sets because we didn't have an ND filter. If I remember it correctly I think it was around 1/200 because the director wants shallow depth of field at f1.4) because the film was not shown on theaters. I actually do notice some jittery compared to a 180degree shutter angle, but viewing the film at small screens and medium sized projector screens, its actually not that distracting. Maybe that's the reason the judges weren't that bothered because it was not shown on theaters? But yeah, if there's a proper budget then I will definitely use an ND filter. I'm currently looking at the Nisi swift VND.
Congrats on your win mate! And yep, I believe that on a theatre screen this would be more notable, but yep, its a guideline which I always try to follow to get the best possible quality.
Hi, I'm only a parttimeamateurfilmmaker. I tend to break the 180° rule from time to time, not to have to use ND filters. When objects and cameras nobody will notice at least not on TH-cam. When things get jittery due to missing motion blur I add it in post woth DaVinci. Mostly the results are pretty OK. On the other hand, when filmed with fast shutter speed the footage is very usable for Optical Flow Slowmotion, even wen filmed in 30 fps.
Of course this is no solution for serious movie making. But as NLESs are getting better every day, I think we will see more artificial motion blur in the future and the need for using an ND will decrease. But just my two Pennies.
I agree 100%. I do this from time to time too. Indeed when wanting to stabilise the footage, higher shutter is optimal!
Great video. I guess you probably know by now that you spelled "Favourite" at 7:37 as "Favoutire" on your title. I hate when that happens.
Hahaha man man, thats one hell of a blunder. 😂
nisi all tyhe way and the only way
Yessir!
Why not use shutter speed. Most people can tell the motion blur is less.
To keep the motion blur natural. Cranking it up looks jittery and is in the least way good for the image
Nobody noticed Favoutire?
Haha my bad
This is the type of content film school teachers watch to prepare their lecture
Hahahaha, this is quite the compliment! Cheers!
just wants to let you know I always watch till the end.
Younus, you’re a legend. Thank you!
And water is wet.
It certainly is
I just bought a nisi VND, don’t remember the exact model, but it’s 1-5 stops and i got it for a great price used🫶🏻
Congrats! Thats amazing!