Thank you very much for this video. Please, in using RG-6/U cable for video transmission of up to 300 meters, which would be better? A copper-clad-steel RG-6/U cable or a solid-copper RG-6/U cable?
Solid copper always. Stay far away from copper clad, here is another way to describe copper clad..."fake low cost steel or aluminum cable with a very thin outer coating of copper". Seriously stay away from it if you want your system to be reliable.
No idea other than long range wireless. Here is an option: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cctv-parts/cctv-transmitters-controls/wifi-long-range-wireless-security-cameras.html Let us know if you find other solutions, thanks.
EX-SDI will go 1400 feet. Use RG6, a separate 18/2 power pair, with a 32vac Altronix power supply... and you can go around 1200 feet easily for a camera that is rated at .5 amp. I don’t care about the voltage drop charts, I do this for long runs down driveways all the time. Oh! Another benefit to SDI, no degradation in video quality over distance ( like you get with CVI and TVI ) because it is a true digital signal, NOT ‘high def’ analog.
Sure you can use Cat7 or Cat7a or Cat8. But the performance does not get better for security cameras. Cat6 already exceeds the performance needed for even 4K security cameras. Hope this helps.
Good question, fiber is just fine. You can go long distances with fiber but you still have the same power limitation problems. The performance will not increase with 1-4 cameras on a single cable link because Cat5 or Cat6 cables can transmit more data than the cameras produce. Fiber would be a good option for transmitting 16 plus cameras on one data link. Fiber is not a normal tool because of the costs, but it can be a solution to difficult installations. Thanks for the question.
good explanation. learned some new stuff. a quick question, I am trying to avoid drilling multiple holes in my walls to run wire between multiple floors. If i were to tuck the cables under vinyl siding to run the wire outside of the house would this be sufficient protecting for the wires also the balum connectors, are they specific to your product or can they be purchased for any camera system?
Yes, normally tucking the cable behind siding is sufficient. Keep in mind its the Sun's UV rays that break down a cable the fastest. So keeping it protected from direct sun light is half the battle. Video Baluns are specific to the data and format being transmitted. Normally I don't see a benefit to using them, unless the cable runs are extremely long I would just use regular cable and protect it accordingly. Hope this helps.
Some POE camera carry the option to be powered, at 400 feet will it work if I power it. I did a 400 feet run with CAT6 on a PTZ camera, the camera keeps come in and out so I was wondering if simple powering it would stabilize it.
Not sure if that is accurate info. Cameras cannot boost the power, they consumer power not send it. The problem is simple electronics. The further you send DC power, the more resistance builds up reducing the amount of power that can be delivered. There are PoE units that have the feature you are mentioning, but how they do it is by increasing the the amps to overcome the resistant. This does work to some degree but its not proper design. Its like putting Aviation gasoline in your car to get it to go faster. It will go faster but you will have problems down the road. We are trying to promote proper design so beginners do not have problems. Your problem is exactly what happens when a camera is "starved" of power. The reason it is coming and and out is because the distance of the cable creates too much resistance and the camera does not receive enough power to reliably operate. Golden rule: If you do plan on exceeding maximum distances, do yourself a favor and increase the diameter or gauge of the wires. Larger gauge wire reduces resistance so the power can be sent further. The only problem you have is your 400 foot run; its too far for the gauge of wire. You should increased the gauge of wire to a 16 or 12 gauge to avoid the problems you are having. You should consider the amps the device draws, the distance of the cable and then select the gauge of ware based on this information. Hope this information helps. Thanks for the post.
We'll if you cannot say anything good, don't say anything at all. With that thought as guidance, I can say there are not many systems that cost less that Cobra. When it comes to CCTV equipment, price is a direct indicator of quality and performance. Cobra is a consumer grade, price focused system.
My question is I want to run a multi wire cable from garage to house 1 common ground 1 wire per camera. These cameras are swann digital cameras adapted from bnc to to multi wire cable. Will this work?
It might work but you are working with very low end equipment and converting the digital signal to other formats for transmission. Who knows what ghosts will pop-up. Good luck.
Nice video, very helpful. Question; I want to use cat6 cable for an IP camera to NVR and need 250 feet. So would a 300 foot cable be better or worse than using a 200 foot cable connected to a 50 foot cable using an RJ45 coupler?
All the same. Just use the length needed if possible, try and eliminate splice points such as the coupler if you can. You should have no issues. Hope this helps.
good morning, i am having AHD 5mp camera hikvision, i found in market a cat6 UTP cable consist of 2 pair twisted wire plus 2 power wire. this power wire same wire that they put on siamese cable, can i used this cable for two camera and put video balun in both end of camera and DVR? thanks...
Hi is a poe switch a power adaptor? And for a nvr that support 4 to 8 cameras does the nvr provide enough power/amp to 4 to 8 camreas or will s power supply be needed thank you
Its not actually an adapter but rather an injector. It induces power onto select conductors in network cable so you can power devices and transmit data all with one cable. Hope this helps.
Hello sir u said cat 5 and care 6 cable can transmit up to 220 and 300 feet respectively, but at the end of video after adding balun to coaxial cable u again said u can extend up to 1500 feet using cat 5/cat6 cable. Can u please explain it once
Hi Mahendhar, There is a bit of confusion here. There are two types of systems; coax and network IP. Units called video baluns convert coax signals so they can be used to transmit video over cat6 or any network cable. But the signal is not actually converted to an IP based signal. You can do long runs using video baluns but true IP network systems are limited to the 220 and 300 foot limitations. Hope this helps.
If it helps anyone, I terminated both ends of a 250 foot cat6 cable (CAT6 23-AWG 100% Pure Copper Gel Filled Weatherproof Direct Burial Outdoor Bulk Cable, Black, U6-B250D) and the camera resolution was sharper than a 6 foot POS cable I had laying around. I was very happy I chose to upgrade to this cable for my external runs. I only partially buried one of the camera runs. Don't buy crappy cable.
Good call, cable can make all the difference. Stay away from any cable labeled CCA, its not real copper, CCA stands for copper clad aluminum. Poor performance.
I have a 4k swann security camera system. I need to extend one of the bnc cables. Do I need a 4k bnc cable? Or there's no special 4k cable? Will any work? The cable is 60' need at least 20' more.
No you don't need 4K cable (no such thing with coax) but you do need a barrel fitting and another premade RG59 Siamese cable. Here are the links for the equipment needed. Barrell: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/barrel-f.html Cable: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cable-60.html Keep in mind there is a camera end of the cable and recorder end, make sure you do not pull the cable backwards. Check the fittings before you pull the cable, make sure the right fittings are at the right locations. Hope this helps.
I purchased 300ft of Cat6 Cable for my cameras, and it won't show any video feed. The DVR recognizes that something's plugged in, but it won't show the video feed. When I plug in the white Cat6 cable that came with the camera, the camera works. When I tried using the PoE Extender using both cords, no feed. Help?
Test each part separately. It sounds like a bad cable issue. Does the cable list "CCA" on the packaging? If it does, that's likely your problem; CCA=Copper Clad Aluminum.
The PoE extenders are $99. They are intended to be used directly between the camera and the NVR, not sure how they will perform with your configuration as described. Here is the link. www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cctv-parts-accessories/power-supplies/poe-signal-power-extender.html Thanks for the question.
There are many fiber optic versions and equipment. Unfortunately you would need specifics on the fiber equipment to get an answer. Fiber type and data being transmitted is needed. Thanks for the question.
I have a question. I have a pair of night owl cameras. They each came with there own 100ft coax cables but one of them was to short so I went and bought a 200ft coax cable. The original 100ft one worked perfectly but the 200ft one I bought did not work at all. What do you think the problem is? Could the cable be too long and so the signal can not reach? If so, is there a video booster or something? I didn’t really understand the separate power thing you were talking about. Thank you for your help in advance an I’m looking forward to your reply
It's night owl, not the cable you bought. Night owl is a consumer grade system. It is designed to cost as little as possible. So the first thing they do is find ways to engineer costs out. Unfortunately they end up creating brand specific systems, meaning other equipment may not work on the system because they took short cuts from industry standards.. You'll notice the night owl cable is probably much smaller in diameter than the cable you purchase. Its just a simple incompatibility issues with night owl. This is why we warn strongly about certain brands. Night Owl is one of them; Swann, Lorex, uniden and several others can have the same problem. Hope this helps.
Not that I'm aware of. We have never found a solution. The problem is in the engineering of the equipment. Night Owl deviated from industry standards to save money and reduce the final sale price. Wish I had a better answer for you.
Hi, i have a question, i have a new analog Dvr (bnc connectors in the back means analog?) ., connecting the camera to dvr With baluns that have full RJ45 connectors for video and power , WOULD making a test connecting with a **CrossOver** Erthnet cable *accidentally* for a minute or two, would it damage any equipment ?? , the baluns at either end ? , the Dvr ? , the camera ? ., you know, doing that is crossing video and power in the loop. Please help ! Thanks !!
The industry standardized on the following: Coax cable: Usually a Siamese cable is used. This has a coax cable and power cable in one single PVC jacket. The standard for the coax cable is RG59 solid copper core with 95% copper shielding. The power cable is 18 gauge 2 conductor twisted not shelled. There are other coax cables on the market that break all the rules. They use aluminum in the center conductor and reduce the copper shielding. Be careful NOT to use such a cable. You are likely to have issues. For network and IP you can use any standard cat5 or cat6 cable on the market. No performance issues there. Hope this helps.
Can i still use POE Extender with Analogue cameras over Cat5e and Balun to extend power and video over a long distance? Waiting for swift response. Thanks.
Hi Jonathan, no the PoE extenders are specifically for IP network devices. Analog cameras will not work. Even though the video balun will allow you to transmit analog cameras over network cable they do not change the signal into a true IP digital signal. So the answer is it definitely will NOT work. Hope this helps.
There are a few variables that should be considered. How far will the cable run be? What size power cable? What is the power draw of the camera? Analog cameras can transmit up to 1500 feet on RG6 coax. But that is just the video. The power runs into the same problems all DC power devices have with distance. As the distance increases more resistance builds up on the power cable, potentially starving the camera of power. Solutions: Find a power source within 250 feet of the camera. or 2. Increase the size of the power cable so the resistance is reduced. or 3. Increase the amperage of the power supply hoping to over power the cable to deliver enough power to the camera. This option is a bit of a hack and not a great idea for a professional, but it can work. Here is a link to more information that may help. It list the size of the cable to use for the distance: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/education-advice-tips/camera-power.html Hope this helps.
No negative effect at all. RG6 Can transmit analog video 1,000 feet no problem and 1500 feet with many of the digital technologies such as SDI or CVI. Hope this helps.
Thank you very much for this video.
Please, in using RG-6/U cable for video transmission of up to 300 meters, which would be better?
A copper-clad-steel RG-6/U cable or a solid-copper RG-6/U cable?
Solid copper always. Stay far away from copper clad, here is another way to describe copper clad..."fake low cost steel or aluminum cable with a very thin outer coating of copper". Seriously stay away from it if you want your system to be reliable.
Great video! What would be my options for 800 meters? What would you recommend?
No idea other than long range wireless. Here is an option: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cctv-parts/cctv-transmitters-controls/wifi-long-range-wireless-security-cameras.html Let us know if you find other solutions, thanks.
EX-SDI will go 1400 feet. Use RG6, a separate 18/2 power pair, with a 32vac Altronix power supply... and you can go around 1200 feet easily for a camera that is rated at .5 amp.
I don’t care about the voltage drop charts, I do this for long runs down driveways all the time.
Oh! Another benefit to SDI, no degradation in video quality over distance ( like you get with CVI and TVI ) because it is a true digital signal, NOT ‘high def’ analog.
Fiber
Thanks for the video. Any update now for using either CAT-7, CAT-7a, or CAT-8 for security cameras?
Sure you can use Cat7 or Cat7a or Cat8. But the performance does not get better for security cameras. Cat6 already exceeds the performance needed for even 4K security cameras. Hope this helps.
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I like this guy many security companies do not like to reveal tips and tricks of the trade I would definitely buy from these people
Thanks John!
Have you guys tried experimenting on fiber optic cable to see if it is better.
Good question, fiber is just fine. You can go long distances with fiber but you still have the same power limitation problems. The performance will not increase with 1-4 cameras on a single cable link because Cat5 or Cat6 cables can transmit more data than the cameras produce. Fiber would be a good option for transmitting 16 plus cameras on one data link. Fiber is not a normal tool because of the costs, but it can be a solution to difficult installations. Thanks for the question.
Wow this video has the most information than the other video that i watched, thanks for this video..
Glad it was helpful!
good explanation. learned some new stuff. a quick question, I am trying to avoid drilling multiple holes in my walls to run wire between multiple floors. If i were to tuck the cables under vinyl siding to run the wire outside of the house would this be sufficient protecting for the wires also the balum connectors, are they specific to your product or can they be purchased for any camera system?
Yes, normally tucking the cable behind siding is sufficient. Keep in mind its the Sun's UV rays that break down a cable the fastest. So keeping it protected from direct sun light is half the battle. Video Baluns are specific to the data and format being transmitted. Normally I don't see a benefit to using them, unless the cable runs are extremely long I would just use regular cable and protect it accordingly. Hope this helps.
Excellent information for the CCTV newbie here!! Thank you much
Glad it was helpful!
You missed one point,
If your hole is the size of cat wire, how do you get the terminator through that hole?
Can it be cut and re terminated?
No, usually you drill a slightly larger hole. Or you can cut the cable, run the wire and crimp a new fitting.
Really great video. Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment.
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Some POE camera carry the option to be powered, at 400 feet will it work if I power it. I did a 400 feet run with CAT6 on a PTZ camera, the camera keeps come in and out so I was wondering if simple powering it would stabilize it.
Not sure if that is accurate info. Cameras cannot boost the power, they consumer power not send it. The problem is simple electronics. The further you send DC power, the more resistance builds up reducing the amount of power that can be delivered. There are PoE units that have the feature you are mentioning, but how they do it is by increasing the the amps to overcome the resistant. This does work to some degree but its not proper design. Its like putting Aviation gasoline in your car to get it to go faster. It will go faster but you will have problems down the road. We are trying to promote proper design so beginners do not have problems. Your problem is exactly what happens when a camera is "starved" of power. The reason it is coming and and out is because the distance of the cable creates too much resistance and the camera does not receive enough power to reliably operate. Golden rule: If you do plan on exceeding maximum distances, do yourself a favor and increase the diameter or gauge of the wires. Larger gauge wire reduces resistance so the power can be sent further. The only problem you have is your 400 foot run; its too far for the gauge of wire. You should increased the gauge of wire to a 16 or 12 gauge to avoid the problems you are having. You should consider the amps the device draws, the distance of the cable and then select the gauge of ware based on this information. Hope this information helps. Thanks for the post.
Bought a cobra nvr system is it a cut rate system too.
We'll if you cannot say anything good, don't say anything at all. With that thought as guidance, I can say there are not many systems that cost less that Cobra. When it comes to CCTV equipment, price is a direct indicator of quality and performance. Cobra is a consumer grade, price focused system.
My question is I want to run a multi wire cable from garage to house 1 common ground 1 wire per camera. These cameras are swann digital cameras adapted from bnc to to multi wire cable. Will this work?
It might work but you are working with very low end equipment and converting the digital signal to other formats for transmission. Who knows what ghosts will pop-up. Good luck.
Thank you so much, you've cleared a lot of things up for me.
Glad to help!
Nice video, very helpful. Question; I want to use cat6 cable for an IP camera to NVR and need 250 feet. So would a 300 foot cable be better or worse than using a 200 foot cable connected to a 50 foot cable using an RJ45 coupler?
All the same. Just use the length needed if possible, try and eliminate splice points such as the coupler if you can. You should have no issues. Hope this helps.
Well said my friend...
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Thanks! Great video!
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I can tell that you are from the field. Life time invested. You know your shit brother!
Thank you!
good morning, i am having AHD 5mp camera hikvision, i found in market a cat6 UTP cable consist of 2 pair twisted wire plus 2 power wire. this power wire same wire that they put on siamese cable, can i used this cable for two camera and put video balun in both end of camera and DVR? thanks...
Yes you could use the two pairs and send two video signals over the baluns you describe.
Hi is a poe switch a power adaptor? And for a nvr that support 4 to 8 cameras does the nvr provide enough power/amp to 4 to 8 camreas or will s power supply be needed thank you
Its not actually an adapter but rather an injector. It induces power onto select conductors in network cable so you can power devices and transmit data all with one cable. Hope this helps.
@@BackstreetCameras thank you your videos are very help full
@@BackstreetCameras are coaxial and IP camreas plug n play or are adaptors needed for each camrea
Hello sir u said cat 5 and care 6 cable can transmit up to 220 and 300 feet respectively, but at the end of video after adding balun to coaxial cable u again said u can extend up to 1500 feet using cat 5/cat6 cable. Can u please explain it once
Hi Mahendhar, There is a bit of confusion here. There are two types of systems; coax and network IP. Units called video baluns convert coax signals so they can be used to transmit video over cat6 or any network cable. But the signal is not actually converted to an IP based signal. You can do long runs using video baluns but true IP network systems are limited to the 220 and 300 foot limitations. Hope this helps.
Great video man
Thanks for the visit
great job
Thank you
If it helps anyone, I terminated both ends of a 250 foot cat6 cable (CAT6 23-AWG 100% Pure Copper Gel Filled Weatherproof Direct Burial Outdoor Bulk Cable, Black, U6-B250D) and the camera resolution was sharper than a 6 foot POS cable I had laying around. I was very happy I chose to upgrade to this cable for my external runs. I only partially buried one of the camera runs. Don't buy crappy cable.
Good call, cable can make all the difference. Stay away from any cable labeled CCA, its not real copper, CCA stands for copper clad aluminum. Poor performance.
I have a 4k swann security camera system. I need to extend one of the bnc cables. Do I need a 4k bnc cable? Or there's no special 4k cable? Will any work? The cable is 60' need at least 20' more.
No you don't need 4K cable (no such thing with coax) but you do need a barrel fitting and another premade RG59 Siamese cable. Here are the links for the equipment needed.
Barrell: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/barrel-f.html
Cable: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cable-60.html
Keep in mind there is a camera end of the cable and recorder end, make sure you do not pull the cable backwards. Check the fittings before you pull the cable, make sure the right fittings are at the right locations. Hope this helps.
Yes thank you.
I purchased 300ft of Cat6 Cable for my cameras, and it won't show any video feed. The DVR recognizes that something's plugged in, but it won't show the video feed. When I plug in the white Cat6 cable that came with the camera, the camera works. When I tried using the PoE Extender using both cords, no feed. Help?
Test each part separately. It sounds like a bad cable issue. Does the cable list "CCA" on the packaging? If it does, that's likely your problem; CCA=Copper Clad Aluminum.
hi,
what is your guide price for the poe extenders and also can i use them off a standard internet modem that is supplied from BT?
The PoE extenders are $99. They are intended to be used directly between the camera and the NVR, not sure how they will perform with your configuration as described. Here is the link. www.backstreet-surveillance.com/cctv-parts-accessories/power-supplies/poe-signal-power-extender.html Thanks for the question.
Good explanation
Thanks for liking
thanks to you too
Sir can we use this fibre optic Poe to Poe uplink over 1400 feet??
There are many fiber optic versions and equipment. Unfortunately you would need specifics on the fiber equipment to get an answer. Fiber type and data being transmitted is needed. Thanks for the question.
great instruction, well done !
Thank you!
I have a question. I have a pair of night owl cameras. They each came with there own 100ft coax cables but one of them was to short so I went and bought a 200ft coax cable. The original 100ft one worked perfectly but the 200ft one I bought did not work at all. What do you think the problem is? Could the cable be too long and so the signal can not reach? If so, is there a video booster or something? I didn’t really understand the separate power thing you were talking about. Thank you for your help in advance an I’m looking forward to your reply
It's night owl, not the cable you bought. Night owl is a consumer grade system. It is designed to cost as little as possible. So the first thing they do is find ways to engineer costs out. Unfortunately they end up creating brand specific systems, meaning other equipment may not work on the system because they took short cuts from industry standards.. You'll notice the night owl cable is probably much smaller in diameter than the cable you purchase. Its just a simple incompatibility issues with night owl. This is why we warn strongly about certain brands. Night Owl is one of them; Swann, Lorex, uniden and several others can have the same problem. Hope this helps.
Is there a power/signal booster that can be used?
Not that I'm aware of. We have never found a solution. The problem is in the engineering of the equipment. Night Owl deviated from industry standards to save money and reduce the final sale price. Wish I had a better answer for you.
Hi, i have a question, i have a new analog Dvr (bnc connectors in the back means analog?) ., connecting the camera to dvr With baluns that have full RJ45 connectors for video and power , WOULD making a test connecting with a **CrossOver** Erthnet cable *accidentally* for a minute or two, would it damage any equipment ?? , the baluns at either end ? , the Dvr ? , the camera ? ., you know, doing that is crossing video and power in the loop. Please help ! Thanks !!
Yes its very possible (likely) that the power damaged the data circuits. Probably would need repair at the circuit board level. Sorry...
are all this cables universal ie can be utilise to any brand of CCTv/Cameras?
The industry standardized on the following: Coax cable: Usually a Siamese cable is used. This has a coax cable and power cable in one single PVC jacket. The standard for the coax cable is RG59 solid copper core with 95% copper shielding. The power cable is 18 gauge 2 conductor twisted not shelled. There are other coax cables on the market that break all the rules. They use aluminum in the center conductor and reduce the copper shielding. Be careful NOT to use such a cable. You are likely to have issues. For network and IP you can use any standard cat5 or cat6 cable on the market. No performance issues there. Hope this helps.
@@BackstreetCameras You are a smart dude!
Can i still use POE Extender with Analogue cameras over Cat5e and Balun to extend power and video over a long distance?
Waiting for swift response.
Thanks.
Hi Jonathan, no the PoE extenders are specifically for IP network devices. Analog cameras will not work. Even though the video balun will allow you to transmit analog cameras over network cable they do not change the signal into a true IP digital signal. So the answer is it definitely will NOT work. Hope this helps.
@@BackstreetCameras Thanks for your swift response.
Thanks once again for your concise response, but I want to install analogue cameras over cat5e for a long distance, how do I go about that? Thanks!
There are a few variables that should be considered. How far will the cable run be? What size power cable? What is the power draw of the camera? Analog cameras can transmit up to 1500 feet on RG6 coax. But that is just the video. The power runs into the same problems all DC power devices have with distance. As the distance increases more resistance builds up on the power cable, potentially starving the camera of power. Solutions: Find a power source within 250 feet of the camera. or 2. Increase the size of the power cable so the resistance is reduced. or 3. Increase the amperage of the power supply hoping to over power the cable to deliver enough power to the camera. This option is a bit of a hack and not a great idea for a professional, but it can work. Here is a link to more information that may help. It list the size of the cable to use for the distance: www.backstreet-surveillance.com/education-advice-tips/camera-power.html Hope this helps.
Jonathan, if you provide me the distance and power draw of the camera I can provide some specific solutions.
Sir,Is there any effect in video if i use rg6 for 200 mitre?
No negative effect at all. RG6 Can transmit analog video 1,000 feet no problem and 1500 feet with many of the digital technologies such as SDI or CVI. Hope this helps.
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I have Wisecomm cameras that use only s video cables how do I hook these up to my tv/vcr
Sorry we have no background in S video. It was only used by low quality consumer equipment a few years ago. Sorry we have no direction.
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