靜電容鍵盤潤軸|How to lube Electro Capacitive Keyboard|NIZ X108

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  • This is the way how I lube Electro Capacitive Keyboard.
    Not only lubeb switchs but also tune stabilizer. In addition, I used foam under the PCB.
    There is no sound of steel wire after tuned the stabilizer. Structure of the relationship, the sound of space key bottoming out is very loud. I used silicon film as a buffer.
    Because the lubricated spring is easy to stick. Recommended to place it on a paper towel for easy peeling.
    【About the space key noise】
    Due to the structure of the keyboard, even if I tune the wire, the space bar still makes a lot of noise. So I put silicon film under the keycap pillar that did not touch the stabilizer stam. Its thickness is about 4mm, so the keycap will hit the silicone pad. Just like the state in the movie. There may be other ways, but this is the method I use.
    Except for the space bar, I can get a quiet sound through the wire tuning.
    Keyboard:NIZ X108 Electro Capacitive Keyboard
    Lube:Krytox 105、105+205 Mixed
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    鍵盤是幫一位朋友處理的,順手把過程記錄下來,也給有同樣需求的朋友一點參考。
    照著影片方式來潤軸並不難。比較要注意的是上了油的彈簧容易沾黏,這次用的105有些多了,建議潤完還是倒在紙巾上較易於分開。
    平衡桿調整後已無鋼絲聲,但由於結構的關係空白鍵的觸底聲有些吵。想到的處理方式是在下方墊了矽膠片。如此雖觸底手感較不乾脆,但這方式用在靜電容鍵盤上個人覺得手感上無違和,且整體聲音也比較趨於一致,給有同樣困擾的朋友作為一點參考。
    【影片版權為個人所有,歡迎轉載,然未經同意請勿擅自編輯使用,感謝配合。】
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  • @TheIceRange
    @TheIceRange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just lubed up my 68 keyboard and watching your video was extremely helpful! Thank you for making this video.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. I am so glad it's helpful to you.

    • @hostsofmichael
      @hostsofmichael ปีที่แล้ว

      Which lube did you use for that? :)

  • @riceshakes
    @riceshakes 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing, thank you for the detailed video. I had a hard time understanding the structure of the "switch" since I'm used to cherry style switches. From my understanding from top to bottom for Niz:
    Top case
    Plate
    Housing
    Stem
    Dome sheet
    Spring
    PCB
    Bottom Case

  • @dangdrjay3011
    @dangdrjay3011 ปีที่แล้ว

    the finished product is one of the most beautiful sounds to ever grace this earth oh my

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your kind words.🤟🏻

  • @rubik2x2x2
    @rubik2x2x2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That spacebar was the biggest upgrade, what a sound! :D

  • @cacmang42
    @cacmang42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you I just did this myself using this as a guide. And I put on classical music to enjoy while I did it as well :)

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad this was helpful to you and hope you have a better typing experience.🤟🏻

  • @Diffuse4912
    @Diffuse4912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    哇塞
    原來這是良品的市集老闆呀
    我之前都有看這個頻道的影片
    看這麼久才發現原來是老闆
    老闆好~

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      這都被你找到了,感謝支持呀😄

    • @Diffuse4912
      @Diffuse4912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shortfinger511 哈哈,愛你呦(不是啦

  • @hotmintchoco
    @hotmintchoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you so much! what a clear tutorial. love the asmr too.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome, glad you like.🤟🏻

  • @selectiveamnesia1033
    @selectiveamnesia1033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    兄弟你真的帮大忙了,感谢感谢。

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      一點小小分享、很高興有幫到你。

  • @user-ds4zs8qz1f
    @user-ds4zs8qz1f 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video, thank you very much for this. This helped very much with my first time lubing an EC keyboard from Niz! You wrote that you used foam under the pcb, do you mean in the bottom of the case? I tried cotton-fill in my Plum 68 but it did not really change the sound. What kind of foam did you use?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very glad it‘s helpful to you. Yes, the location of the foam is below the PCB.
      I just use PU foam for packaging. I think the effect will be better by using Poron foam.
      Of course, you can try to use different materials, including towels or clothes that are not used ,or even try tape mod.

  • @polisherci
    @polisherci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for this, extremely useful

  • @thokrak5953
    @thokrak5953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think you just made me buy this keeb.........

  • @Weekly_kun
    @Weekly_kun 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    这款键盘最大的特点是能换键帽,因为都是十字轴。

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      是的、靜電容可以換MX鍵帽的的確不多。

  • @elytheteddybear2026
    @elytheteddybear2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you are a godsend. great video. by the way, since the krytox 205 + 105 mix isn't available right now in online shops, is it okay if i use krytox 205g0 instead? i assume i'd have to apply a thinner coating than what you applied on your switches and stabilizers.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      205g0 is good. use it! 👌🏻

  • @hordeslayer5223
    @hordeslayer5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved your video -- not only the instruction but how tastefully done it was. I have just two questions. Are these 35 or 45 gram switches? Did the keys feel any less tactile when you were done? Thank you!

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the 45-gram version. And it doesn’t affect the sense of tactile at all.

  • @letansang
    @letansang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, is there're anything that can harm the mainboard if we lube the spring (the EC spring that go with the dome or something that i dont know how to call it 😅). Btw, super nice tutorial, thank you.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Krytox will not damage the motherboard. There is no problem with this keyboard until now, don't worry.

  • @allan9095
    @allan9095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid!

  • @balthazar500
    @balthazar500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice music selection!

  • @S0liD4CE
    @S0liD4CE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it possible to install blockers on this keyboard? I want to install a blocker on right ctrl (next to left arrow) on the atom68.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, this keyboard is no longer with me now. And I don't think it can be installed blockers.

  • @cloud11665
    @cloud11665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very good video !

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you ❤️🤟🏻

    • @cloud11665
      @cloud11665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shortfinger511 this video made me buy this keyboard. Also, what version of crytox did you use?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cloud11665 WOW! really! its great! 👍🏻
      I use 105 + 205 G2 mixed (1:1) for switch , 105 for springs,
      and Super lube 21030 for steel wire.

  • @v2266514
    @v2266514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    潤靜電容的彈簧真的有需要嗎?
    彈簧並不會因為按壓的上下推移與硬塑膠摩擦,反而我擔心潤滑油沾到矽膠膜會導致腐蝕或打滑

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      彈簧實際並沒有跟任何塑膠有接觸、接觸的是主板跟膠碗,潤彈簧並非減少它跟主板的摩擦(因為他基本不動),主要是減少彈簧本身結構的摩擦增加順滑度。
      當然需不需要潤都是依個人喜好、我自己彈簧是一定會去潤滑的。
      另外、腐蝕問題還是看使用什麼樣的潤滑油,Krytox對塗料不會產生反應,280度下不會跟金屬有化學反應,用在鍵盤上基本沒有腐蝕的顧慮,鍵盤潤滑至今約三個多月,使用上並無任何問題。 以上、提供一點參考。

  • @andrewlit2202
    @andrewlit2202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    any tips on making the spacebar not rattle like crazy? no matter what i do mine wont be quiet lol

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Due to the structure of the keyboard, even if I tune the wire, the space bar still makes a lot of noise. So I put silicon film under the keycap pillar that did not touch the stabilizer stam. Its thickness is about 4mm, so the keycap will hit the silicone pad. Just like the state in the movie. There may be other ways, but this is the method I use.
      Hope it can help you🤟🏻

    • @andrewlit2202
      @andrewlit2202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shortfinger511 right, ok, I get it. Thank you so much for the quick reply! I'm gonna give that a try 🙂

  • @hello_2221
    @hello_2221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is unrelated to the switches, but what are the stabilizers like? Can I replace them with other stabilizers? If so are they plate mount or PCB mount?

    • @selectiveamnesia1033
      @selectiveamnesia1033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nonono sir, these are not your regular cherry mx style stab, so you can't replace them with plate mount or PCB mount mx stabs. They are just totally different.

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@selectiveamnesia1033 Thanks for your reply!

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As @selective Amenesia said, this is not cherry mx style stab,it's called Costar.

    • @hello_2221
      @hello_2221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought you could replace Costar stabs with a different brand of stabs. You cant?

    • @user-ds4zs8qz1f
      @user-ds4zs8qz1f 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are many different co-star stabilizers from different manufacturers, but they all function the same. YMDK and other Chinese sellers usually have co-star stabilizers in stock if you need to replace yours. Cherr-MX style stabilizers is another thing alltogether, but those can indeed be upgraded to a better variant if prefered.@@hello_2221

  • @Solstice754
    @Solstice754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, what screw are you using to take apart the board?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fact, it is not a special screw. It's just a separate piece of silicone glued to the screw.
      This may be a small shortcoming in the design, but it does not affect the overall use.

  • @joechiao1105
    @joechiao1105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    想請問一下 底棉的部分是用多厚的呢?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      用的是約5mm厚度的一般海綿,因為海綿可壓縮,所以空間影響不大,也可以用其他消音棉替代。

  • @login415
    @login415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I just lubed mine in a similar way that you did on my NIZ 87. Krytox is expensive in Japan, so I ended up using superlube multi-use synthetic oil for the springs for bag lube, and superlube 92003 + the liquid oil around the stems. Do you find any degradation of the membrane in the long term as it comes into contact with oil?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Superlube 92003 is fine on the switch, don't worry.

  • @benny668
    @benny668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I get the films for the stabilizer mod?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I made it by myself, you can use thick silicone tape instead.

    • @benny668
      @benny668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shortfinger511 Where exactly did you put the films?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@benny668 There are several keycap posts under the space key, put the film under the unused keycap posts. And adjust the films to the proper thickness.

  • @ThatsErika
    @ThatsErika 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long does the lube last?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Generally, it won't re-lubricate after once.

  • @user-darkness0000
    @user-darkness0000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    平衡桿也是用105+205嗎?

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  ปีที่แล้ว

      龍豆的部分用22058或205
      龍船卡鋼絲的地方可以用105+205

  • @user-darkness0000
    @user-darkness0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    嗨 你覺得靜電容鍵盤潤軸值得嗎? 感覺聲音差不多 手感會更好嗎(更加扎實?)

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      有潤沒潤還是有差的,不是扎實,相較純淨一些

    • @user-darkness0000
      @user-darkness0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shortfinger511 好的

  • @vrashabhsontakke7282
    @vrashabhsontakke7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    35g vs 45g switches, please help

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only tried 45g. And I like it!

    • @user-kp1js6cb2s
      @user-kp1js6cb2s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 35g and I like how light they are, although there were occasions, when I accidentally typed smth when my hand was lying on the keyboard. Would recommend them

  • @jiweixia7844
    @jiweixia7844 ปีที่แล้ว

    兄弟 那个15:16 贴的东西是什么呀 为什么要贴

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  ปีที่แล้ว

      那個是鐵氟龍膠帶、因為原本的底座存在明顯公差,敲擊時會有雜音,貼了膠袋等於把間隙填滿讓底座卡得更緊一些,這樣敲擊時就不會有多餘的雜音了。

    • @jiweixia7844
      @jiweixia7844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shortfinger511 了解了,就普通Teflon 胶带就行了嘛?感谢

    • @shortfinger511
      @shortfinger511  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jiweixia7844 主要是用來填補間隙的,不需要非得Teflon,一般膠帶也可以的。

    • @jiweixia7844
      @jiweixia7844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shortfinger511 好的bro