I agree with alot of what you are saying and I'm really getting tired of this political correctness cancel culture movement. Metal was always controversial and most of these bands who make these controversial records when you see them in interviews seem really cool and laid back. I look at most metal as therapy and has gotten me and others out of hardtimes. Controversy has been around since before metal. Great topic Trevor.
I kinda agree here Trev. Metal is all about not conforming to the system, it's always been controversial mainly because they thought it was satanic. It's about people who don't fit in to normal life having an outlet to get all their frustration out, and that resonates with other people who are the same. It's not meant for these "normal" people that dont seem to quite understand what Metal music is, so anyone like that should be nowhere near our music! To quote Metallica; life's for my own to live my own way 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I was never on twitter or TikTok…..basically I still watch FB but very rarely do I post and if I do, it’s a music theme and I was never into Pantera so…….3 ways to start an argument 1. Religion 2. Politics 3. Hockey Cheers brother, hope all is well
Good to see you, Ranty Trevor. I could not care less what bands sing about, some is impossible to understand anyways, haha. 😂😂 But yeah, if you harm children you're fucked. 👊🏻 Have a nice day my friend. Cheers. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
And may I add that I see people ganging up on certain people that have a different opinion. Last time I checked, that's known as bullying. It's pathetic. I get people love music but if someone gets that affected by someone's opinion then they need other things in their life. I agree there are people with good recommendations but sadly for me the negative toxicity far outweighed the positive. Rant over lol
@@ScreaminT81 You were one of the ones I respected on there because you spoke your mind no matter what the reaction was. You are 100% a genuine person and that's hard to find.
@@andylawrence8778 you’re just as genuine as always my friend. I’ve missed you on there, but I respect you and your decision to leave. You are 100% correct on everything, as always.
At what point do we separate the person from the art? Also, at what point aren't we allowed to make mistakes. I had a different view of women's issues, until I had daughters, and it changed my views. Some of the stances I had I feel now were wrong, but if I didn't make mistakes, I never would have learned. Great points though.
@@MetalInstituteofThrashology same 100%. The women’s thing was only very short for me. Dad gave me the chat that changed my mind on those things. I can separate them, it really depends on the severity of it ya know. 😊
Rambling?. Made perfect sense to me Trevor. Lifes too short to hate. Nazi imagery is nothing new I have some punk stuff and Sex Pistols stuff that used it. And thats going back to the 1970's, more shocking then as was'nt long after WW2. Does'nt mean I agree with any RAc or NS bullshit if I decide to listen to these bands. But I don't think I would like that music. To tell you the truth. Big Smile!,😁You made great points pal🤘
I can promise wholeheartedly that my plans for world domination are definitely not a thing. I can't even crack TH-cam 😉 You say it was a rant video, but you put your points across with passion, integrity, and common sense, which is something the "woke" brigade lacks. Always great to see you, dude 🤘
@@seanbeast939 you’re not wrong, I had planned on going on a major rant, and yet I kept er pretty kool and not yellin at the camera hahah. Cheers man and I hope Cam Lee and co kicked massive ass! Was Overthrow on that bill too last night?
This is funny. has our public school system done a horrible job teaching history for the last 60 years? yes. Do I believe the confederate flag stands for something that is not Southern pride? yes. I live in South Carolina. 98% of the people here believe it means southern pride. after they lost the Civil War (which the vast majority of them say was fought for the wrong reasons... I could go on about this forever) the South was punished through reconstruction. You can honestly understand the election of Wilson as this sentiment. That being said... Does anyone in a metal band have a nuanced view of political philosophy? no. THAT'S WHY I LISTEN TO IT. Metal WAS against the mainstream for a long time. Do edgy things. Slayer with their silly pseudo satanism or Pantera with their rebel flags. No one cares about 70's and 80's punk rockers with swastikas or simping for Stalin, Lenin, Mao, or Pol Pot. No one cares about punk rockers singing about assassinating Reagan or any other political figure. Simply, in the world of 'art', if your statement can be verified as 'left' of the political mainstream it WILL ALWAYS BE EXCUSED. Oh, you're in a 90's hardcore band that helped eco-terrorists kill loggers? you're a good person. It's silly. The entire argument is silly. Dimebag or Axl rose in a picture in a club in 1987 with a rebel flag shirt is not the same thing as Kanye West or black metal. we need to stop over intellectualizing working class dudes who never read a book but play in our favorite bands.
Hahaha how you doing Trev 🍻 I find people's faces controversial 😳😅 and agreed I kinda hate the world woke more than I've ever found it funny but I find everything funny from time to time. Politics has gone off the cliff and I 100% blame trump but I hate that orange buffoon and the money people who back him. Good take on things mate I fully agree 🤘🏻
@@pieface8032 thank you Simon. I’m doing pretty decent actually. Yeah I hate politicians as a whole and I say. Things have gone batshit crazy eh. Cheers brother!
Sorry much as I disagree with you, this is a non-issue and we should not even waste breath on it. Especially, coming from someone like that. That dude has NOTHING to do with music in the first place.
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Probably one of my more rambliest of videos.
Great stuff,Trevor. Bit rambling, but made sence to me. 🤘🍻
There is logic in what this guy says. Instant sub
I agree with alot of what you are saying and I'm really getting tired of this political correctness cancel culture movement. Metal was always controversial and most of these bands who make these controversial records when you see them in interviews seem really cool and laid back. I look at most metal as therapy and has gotten me and others out of hardtimes. Controversy has been around since before metal. Great topic Trevor.
@@METALBENSCHRONICLES hello big fella. Hope you’re well.
Yeah this was one I wanted to do for awhile and I’m glad Sean started it first.
I kinda agree here Trev. Metal is all about not conforming to the system, it's always been controversial mainly because they thought it was satanic. It's about people who don't fit in to normal life having an outlet to get all their frustration out, and that resonates with other people who are the same. It's not meant for these "normal" people that dont seem to quite understand what Metal music is, so anyone like that should be nowhere near our music! To quote Metallica; life's for my own to live my own way 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@JoshKeech well put response brother!
@@ScreaminT81 Cheers mate 😊🤘🏻
We are living in a Clown World bro !
I was never on twitter or TikTok…..basically I still watch FB but very rarely do I post and if I do, it’s a music theme and I was never into Pantera so…….3 ways to start an argument
1. Religion
2. Politics
3. Hockey
Cheers brother, hope all is well
@@cassettemayhem-dan3086 all is well indeed brother!
Side note, Flyers make the playoffs this year
Good to see you, Ranty Trevor. I could not care less what bands sing about, some is impossible to understand anyways, haha. 😂😂 But yeah, if you harm children you're fucked. 👊🏻
Have a nice day my friend. Cheers. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@rogerkjorvik hahaha yeah no one can understand shite. That’s like my one big thing is the kids. Leave em be ya know. Cheers ole boy
HANDS0ME MAN!
Aren't they from Texas?
@@remowhat3879 Dime and Vinny? Yeah
@@ScreaminT81 shouldn't they have Texas flags then? That'd make more sense. Phil didn't even join until later.
@@remowhat3879 you would think, but for some reason it was the fed flag. I think Phil was key in that. Didn’t do it to offend though.
It's the reason I left Twitter. Can't listen to anything anymore without someone complaining about it.
I’m still there cause the recs from certain people are fantastic
And may I add that I see people ganging up on certain people that have a different opinion. Last time I checked, that's known as bullying. It's pathetic. I get people love music but if someone gets that affected by someone's opinion then they need other things in their life. I agree there are people with good recommendations but sadly for me the negative toxicity far outweighed the positive. Rant over lol
@@andylawrence8778 understandable 100%! Couldn’t agree more.
Now come to think of it, I’m possibly guilty of that 😫😞
@@ScreaminT81 You were one of the ones I respected on there because you spoke your mind no matter what the reaction was. You are 100% a genuine person and that's hard to find.
@@andylawrence8778 you’re just as genuine as always my friend. I’ve missed you on there, but I respect you and your decision to leave. You are 100% correct on everything, as always.
At what point do we separate the person from the art? Also, at what point aren't we allowed to make mistakes. I had a different view of women's issues, until I had daughters, and it changed my views. Some of the stances I had I feel now were wrong, but if I didn't make mistakes, I never would have learned.
Great points though.
@@MetalInstituteofThrashology same 100%. The women’s thing was only very short for me. Dad gave me the chat that changed my mind on those things.
I can separate them, it really depends on the severity of it ya know. 😊
Rambling?. Made perfect sense to me Trevor.
Lifes too short to hate. Nazi imagery is nothing new I have some punk stuff and Sex Pistols stuff that used
it. And thats going back to the 1970's, more shocking then as was'nt long after WW2.
Does'nt mean I agree with any RAc or NS bullshit if I decide to listen to these bands. But I don't think I would
like that music.
To tell you the truth. Big Smile!,😁You made great points pal🤘
I can promise wholeheartedly that my plans for world domination are definitely not a thing. I can't even crack TH-cam 😉 You say it was a rant video, but you put your points across with passion, integrity, and common sense, which is something the "woke" brigade lacks. Always great to see you, dude 🤘
@@seanbeast939 you’re not wrong, I had planned on going on a major rant, and yet I kept er pretty kool and not yellin at the camera hahah. Cheers man and I hope Cam Lee and co kicked massive ass!
Was Overthrow on that bill too last night?
I don't care what anyone else listens to. I don't care what anyone thinks about what I listen to. End statement.
Only white people do. Black folks don't talk about this kind of shit, nor do Asians or Hispanics or anyone else.
This is funny.
has our public school system done a horrible job teaching history for the last 60 years? yes. Do I believe the confederate flag stands for something that is not Southern pride? yes. I live in South Carolina. 98% of the people here believe it means southern pride. after they lost the Civil War (which the vast majority of them say was fought for the wrong reasons... I could go on about this forever) the South was punished through reconstruction. You can honestly understand the election of Wilson as this sentiment.
That being said...
Does anyone in a metal band have a nuanced view of political philosophy? no. THAT'S WHY I LISTEN TO IT. Metal WAS against the mainstream for a long time. Do edgy things. Slayer with their silly pseudo satanism or Pantera with their rebel flags. No one cares about 70's and 80's punk rockers with swastikas or simping for Stalin, Lenin, Mao, or Pol Pot. No one cares about punk rockers singing about assassinating Reagan or any other political figure.
Simply, in the world of 'art', if your statement can be verified as 'left' of the political mainstream it WILL ALWAYS BE EXCUSED. Oh, you're in a 90's hardcore band that helped eco-terrorists kill loggers? you're a good person.
It's silly. The entire argument is silly. Dimebag or Axl rose in a picture in a club in 1987 with a rebel flag shirt is not the same thing as Kanye West or black metal. we need to stop over intellectualizing working class dudes who never read a book but play in our favorite bands.
@@marcusg5665 this was a response I was not expecting. Thank you for watching and commenting. Cheers man!
Hahaha how you doing Trev 🍻 I find people's faces controversial 😳😅 and agreed I kinda hate the world woke more than I've ever found it funny but I find everything funny from time to time. Politics has gone off the cliff and I 100% blame trump but I hate that orange buffoon and the money people who back him.
Good take on things mate I fully agree 🤘🏻
@@pieface8032 thank you Simon. I’m doing pretty decent actually. Yeah I hate politicians as a whole and I say. Things have gone batshit crazy eh. Cheers brother!
Sorry much as I disagree with you, this is a non-issue and we should not even waste breath on it. Especially, coming from someone like that. That dude has NOTHING to do with music in the first place.
Who me?