Qi10 vs STEALTH2 - ANY IMPROVEMENTS FROM TAYLORMADE ??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
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I compare one of the hottest 2024 launches TaylorMade Qi10 Driver against the 2023 Stealth2 Driver in a head to head battle to see if the new version is better!! I compare looks, feel, technology and of course performance.
This new driver from TaylorMade is one of many golf launches along with Cobra Dark Speed, Callaway Ai Smoke, Ping G430 Max 10K to name a few.
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Thanks your your honest revieuw. Makes clear that i am keeping my stealth2, i see no reason to change it to the QI10.
I was thinking the same. Hmmmm
Agreed
Always have enjoyed your reviews but the alternating of clubs in this review I think really adds validation to the comparison.
Thanks
Unless you’re at >105 mph swing speed, AND assuming you’ve been fitted properly (essential!!) I just don’t see a reason to change up. Same same. Get a six pack of lessons. Same dough. Just my two cents.
Yeah, I agree. No need to get a new driver for 5 year increments as long as you are fitted optimally
Re watched your SIM2 vs SIM2 max vid. Same swing speed and ball was much longer than Qi10. I think a 2024 comparison is in order. Love the comtent. Thanks
yes pls compare again
I have hit both. Qi10 is clearly more forgiving and generates slightly more ball speed. Qi10 looks better too.
All about Fake!!! Check your own video from last year. Stealth2 vs. TSR2. And compare the Stealth2 results from 2023 like for like 2024 . Honestly i cant believe this. You loose a lot of performace in one year Michael.??? Really???
It’s the same everywhere. Somehow the older model gets worse over time.
What was my clubhead last year? Can’t exactly remember but I’ve deffo lost speed over the last few years. Used to be a solid 115/116
I'm still playing the Sim 2 Max. I see the same characteristics as you see with the Qi10 in that off center strikes can spin up quite a bit. Makes for a bit more dispersion than I'd like. Not seeing that the Qi10 is going to be a substantial improvement.
Your reviews are always very informative and honest.
Don’t change your approach 🙏
Thank you
@@MichaelNewtonGolfwhat’s up with your spin lately? You’re abnormally high on all your reviews
For a driver shaft that is very short, 41 1/4 " or did you give the wrong length?
Sorry meant to say 45 1/4 🙈
On looks alone, the QI10
Needless upgrade from Stealth 2 unless TaylorMade made the Qi10 with improved durability,but they don't mention it..maybe because they don't want to admit the weakness of the stealth 2. I have a stealth 2 plus, 4 months old, blew the sole out!
Hi Michael one BIG problem with your reviews - they appear to be tailored for YOU and therefore yes I agree what a great drive you can hit but it does not help me. Try addressing the average club golfer which would require a slow swing speed a moderate swing speed and off course your Mr wonderful swing spped
Seems you lost a lot of distance with the TM compared to the Ping, Staff Dynapower etc. Another hyped up Ho hum TM product......
Just got a Stealth 2, love the price depreciation, especially if it performs mostly as good.
When I saw the heat pattern on the face of each driver, I knew I was in trouble. Isn't one of the claims of the new Qi10 that it is more forgiving? Maybe try to hit a few off center mass on each to see if there is any real difference. Maybe bring your dad in to hit a few. Just kidding, but your swing is probably in the top 5% of all golfers. Other than getting out and hitting it myself (still a foot of snow on the ground) how can I tell if this new head is better than the Stealth 2 for a slower, less consistent swing? I do appreciate your efforts and enjoy watching your reviews.
Still love the original stealth - just not the plus. The plus went sideways for me.
I put the demo Qi10 standard up against my TSi3 and a used Stealth2 in the shop, and both TM drivers flew so much higher than my TSi3, but weren't any better on dispersion. Comparing them directly with a titanium faced driver, and they both felt like they were made of plastic. I hit one freaky high toe with the Qi10 and it went 34 yards left. I thought it was never going to land.
lol. Yep I am going to test Titleist drivers this summer. Was not a fan of either Stealth. The Qi10 is a sharp looking club, but i have heard of people having issues with faces pulling off the head with the Carbon Faced Drivers, with Stealth and Stealth 2. I see what you did with your screen name😅
I hit the IQ10 today, and I can say with the weight all the way to the draw side (in the LS) it feels a lot more stable. And I was still able to hit a draw with it so idk I got +10 ball speed from switching. I like it 100% recommend
That driver sound very unintelligent.
Hey what are your thoughts on the Qi10 max hybrid vs Stealth 2 HD Hybrid i currently have the 3 and 5 hybrids in the stealth 2 HD and love them BUT i need a 4 hybrid am i better to find an HD in the 4 hybrid or is it a better jump to the Qi10 max in the 4 hybrid ? please inform cheers from Vulcan Canada
Wow I’ve never really heard of a driver being cut down to 41 inches. Is this done just for testing purposes to get consistent strikes? Because that seems super short.
He made mistake. 45 1/4 is the length. Mentioned it in another comment.
Sorry meant to say 45.25
@@MichaelNewtonGolf no worries. Thanks for the response.
Call me old fashioned but I took up golf when blue clubs were for Ladies. My Stealth suits me just fine.
I've been a subscriber for a few years now. I absolutely love your reviews. Great video as usual 👌 will you be doing a cobra darkspeed soon ?
Yes soon 👍
TSR3 is king
0:41 41 1/4" in length? Did you perhaps mean 45 1/4" length? OK, you did correct this in comments to 45 1/4" As I thought. Nice review as always.
Yes 45.25
what is the difference in MOI between the 2? Has TM published the MOI for the standard Qi10?
Both are roughly around the 8500 MOI mark
Great review. Proves that the only difference in golf club’s these days are the millions that are put into the marketing campaign.
There has been very little change in drivers over the past few years. But people like the latest and greatest. I've got a buddy that buys a new driver every year. Makes him happy. I spend a fraction of that $ on a couple golf lessons and beat him every time we play.
they say you can fool a fool once! but this cant be true as people will run out and buy the stealth 3
U mean sim 5 😆
same thing im sure lol@@ohkayw
@@ohkayw😂😂😂😂 facts
But looks and sounds Amazing will test next week
Last year Stealth 2 carried 277 yds this year 264. 🤔
Thaks - excellent as always!!!!
Those spin numbers look significantly off - and are affecting both your carry, and your total numbers. With 111 club head speed and 163 ball speed you should be seeing carry distance in the mid 280's and total distance around 300+. With your delivery, there isn't a chance that you're putting almost 4000 rpm of backspin on the ball. You should consider upgrading your setup to a GC-Quad launch monitor.
I’d still put my Rogue ST Max up against anyone. Paradym was a rogue ST with a paint job and stupid people still went out and spent $200-$300 more for the same exact driver!!! 😂😂😂
Conclusion: in the hands of average golfers with a far more erratic strike pattern than Michael, there is zero reason to “upgrade” every year. It’s all gonna come out in the wash so similarly it won’t have any real world effect on scores. TM and Callaway are in the churn and burn business. It’s what they do. Don’t be a sucker … :)
Honestly I like your videos ok but at the end you don’t give an opinion just numbers. For the every weekend golfers I think we would like an actual opinion instead of so many robotic numbers. We don’t have a machine to measure numbers so personal opinion goes along way.
The new one looks better and sounds better but from your test, (good player) I wouldn’t be moving out of S2 for another 3 yards and no discernible dispersion improvements. The BS coming out of club makers is reaching stratospheric heights at the moment.
i wanna know who fit you to these drivers honestly im a club fitter and im shocked youre ok with spinning a driver at over 3000 rpms
Problem is all these driver comparison websites are with scratch golfers .be interesting to see foregiveness and distance numbers between the top new models in the hands of a 14 to 16 handicaper
I tested the qi10 against my SIM , I had no difference to actually swap it out my bag , if I swap it will be ping or Titleist
So I don’t get how the QI10 has his the 10k forgiveness chart but it’s doing the same at the stealth 2 witch am pretty sure was less that 9k
Great videos as always
I am on my 3rd head. I purchased the stealth Plus last december, it cracked and they were out so they shipped me a the stealth 2 +. That one cracked and they replaced it again. Honestly I really like how it feels and I get a lot of distance out of it. It's not the most forgiving driver I have hit for sure. Maybe I if this one cracks I will get shipped the Qi10 :)
The Qi10 standard has 8450 g-cm^2 in moi. The standard Stealth 2 is 8250. And the Stealth 2 HD is 8500.
Need to see SIM 2 vs QI10 as the stealth sucks and the SIM2 is a great all around driver. I have SIM2 max and love the head is the same size as the standard . Cheers
I had a sim 2 and it broke within 10 months. I loved it but taylormade sent me a stealth 1 and I actually like it and it's held up
@@Sagnasty17 I bought a stealth 2 just for fun don’t really like it can’t give it away lol
So you don't have s stealth, you just saw the numbers are less than 1% different, but somehow you know "the stealth sucks" 😂😅. TH-cam comments are hilarious.
@@tekepenguin1981 I have a stealth 2 and the forgiveness blows and it fell apart soooo .
@@wnfakind9197 get fitted and you won’t buy drivers that done work for you.
low launch - high spin. doesn't seem the right clubs for your swing at all.
Al stick with the stealth 2 drver do you think that the company s are bringing clubs out far too much 🤔
Do you not think your maximising your distance your spin numbers are through the roof
The impact sound off qi10 is so much more outstanding then stealth, very surprising
I thought stealth would be half decent at least
Thanks for your review, watching it (and others I’ve seen) would suggest there would be little if any benefit in upgrading from my Stealth 2 to the Qi10.
Never tried the stealth but hit the Qi 10 max yesterday and really liked it. Great feel , great sound and 3mph more ball speed than my current driver.
With repeatability like that I’m not sure you aren’t a robot 🤖
Where's Rory! even more Far (Give)ness! Your Money!!
Probably more durable due to the new flexible frame around the face, however too expensive as usual.
Hej. Michael! I did what's you asked about for, subscribing your channel! But I did it already years before when i started watching yt. You should know, there are only two cha8i ever subscribed without the hope of winning golf parts like a river or a set of of irons. And that's your channel and the channel of Dan Hendriksen. Till today i gets what I expected always from you, s neutral, fair and competent review of golf parts. It seems that'll your intention is true information and not smelling a hyped product or brand. Thanks therefore! But i hope the day is will comeback ans i win a set of nice looking bladed irons on any yt channel - maybes you do some days a give away video? Such a event brings subscribers, also celebrities like Robbie Williams; but that's no your style I think.... Cheers! All the best for you and i hope you get much more followers and subscribers because you deserve it.
Thank you 🙏
Best review I have seen so far 💪
Glad you liked it!
as a data nerd I'd love to see some additional data points like AOA, the spin rates seem a touch high for a 9 degree core head
He never gives a definitive opinion on which club he prefers.
And next year the face is green , so people will fall for that too.
My old driver was a R7 so i think its worth the upgrade.
Good review thank you. Would have been nice to see off center hits and get your opinion on forgiveness
Thanks for this comparison.
Hi. Great reviews. Is there anyway you can wear a shirt that doesn’t sound so loud when you swing. The microphone is picking up this noise. Just a bit distracting. Thanks.
Naked 😂
Suggestion: to try an external microphone (not connected to your jacket). The ruffling sound is pretty jarring when you cut to it.
Yes agree, not normally as bad so must be the jacket. Just filmed another with mic close by, not as good a audio….I’ll try another method 👍
First video of yours I have seen, I think it’s given me everything I need to make my decision, you’ve earned my sub, thanks! 🙌🏼
Awesome, thank you!
Grt swing
41.25 inch shaft that tiny!!!
Meant to say 45.25 🙈
Great videos on your channel. One small suggestion . . . Audio quality isn't great. Sounds over-compressed.
Working on it!
Great video... Thoughts on a video of testing that MOI that PIng and TM is pushing... Get a shaft of your choosing with the same weight but different flexes (I.e. Ventus blue 6X,6S,6R). If the marketing of the highest MOI is what they are pushing, then regardless of shaft flex, they should all go straight, just the launch conditions should be affected.
These 10k drivers won’t cure swing faults, slight miss hits will stay straighter than normal BUT if the path & face relationship are a long way apart then your still going to miss fairways.
Thanks Michael - great comparison. Do you think the QI is noticeably more forgiving? Also - is that the grip you normally use throughout the bag?
Yes same grip 👍
please also test the new wilson blades and cb's!!
Looks still hands down Stealth 2!
Now compare the PXG Black Ops driver to the Qi10
Need PXG to play ball first 😏
Did I hear correctly on the shaft length of 41 and a quarter? 😮
You did but I meant to say 45.25” 🙈
Hi Michael. Good video as always. Just wondering What is your angle of attack?
Generally with driver 1/2 up
Stealth looks way better.
Michael what length do you play your driver?
45.25”
Different shaft would be better?
Hey Mike...love the channel and the reviews. Could you clarify the driver length of both clubs?
45.25”
That’s my playing length not the brands std length
What are the benefits of the shorter shaft length length?
Helps with strike & control
Great review.
The Qi10 looks so much better than the Stealth!
Keeping things honest👌
Just hit the Qi10 (all 3) alongside my SIM2 and a Paradym off the same shaft and it seems the Paradym is still the most forgiving but the Qi10 sounds so much better than the stealth 1 and 2 and feels faster off the face.. don’t think it is but the fun factor is back in it like the SIM series
Lots of spin 3000’s too much
Agree
I think the Callaway Paradym smoke seems to be drawing me in so far this year. Thanks for todays review Michael.
Honestly these pure analytical reviews in 2024 are becoming pointless. The difference in numbers are so marginally small, you can go with any quality brand and get similar results. The look and feel of the club is 100% a personal choice and will instill the most confidence to hit better shots. With that being said I am also most looking forward to the callaway AI Smoke. This taylormade is a 7/10 in the looks, and it wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the "infinity crown."
You’re either a fool, rich, or just love trying new clubs. If you care about getting bang for your buck, buy used driver.
@gdo3510 that would generally be an accurate statement, but I'm surprised at the forgiveness testing I've seen in youtube for thr smoke. U have guys hitting heal bangers or balls way out on the toe only losing 1 or 2 mph ballspeed.
@@scottw9267 That's the same with the Qi10 Max and the Ping Max. The difference is so small, that you should pick on what you like the most. I'm going in for a fitting February 6th and honestly I doubt I'll see much improvement over my Sim2 Max. That driver is so steady
@Bech285 except those are testing worse on ball speed and spin and are flying in weird windows compared to predecessors on flush shots. (Meaning ping 10k is testing worse than standard g430 ). The ai smoke is actually testing the same as paradym on center strikes and testing great on off center shots.
Not a callaway fan boy and don't buy marketing nonsense. I am intrigued that the limited youtube testing does show what the marketing says though. TM and Pings offerings have testers like txg already saying that those clubs are forgiving but that's it. I saw another test that the qi10 needed to be lofted down to 8 to get the testers typical spin pattern with a 10.5 deg TM. Again, the small amount of testing around doesn't indicate that those super moi drivers are the same as the smoke.
But maybe callway paid for the testing and it's all made up.
Thanks mike great review I think the Qi10 sounds better?
What was the shaft length and wondering why you didn’t choose the upright setting being as you’re so tall?
They’re the same driver with a new name, new colour and market it as more forgiving blah blah blah and charge more money.
I still happy with my stealth 2 in 2024 🥰