I am curious to hear from you what you think of the film and if you have experience in developing the film how you avoid the harsh grain. Any tip helps at this point.
I second the T Hopper shoutout! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this film, made me want to try it out myself. I actually like the enhanced grain, but I can totally understand that this is not what you were expecting based on Berggers description. The shot @6:30 is amazing by the way! I am also torn which version I prefer, I think the richness of blacks turning into grays on the edited version wins for me.
Thanks for watching Karin. Yes, exactly. I think the video might've turned out completely differently if the description of the film on their website would not have claimed fine grain. But at least now I know what to expect next time I shoot it. Curious to also hear from you what you think once you shot it. Btw. The Ukrainian film you shot in your last video made me very curious. Need to get my hands on a roll or two.
Thank you for the review! I shot one roll of it a year ago and liked it very much, particularly for the distinct grain (w/ Rodinal) an shallow shadows :) Nice to see that people have different preferences, and always nice to hear other views on it!
A film seldom seen reviewed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on what I’ve considered in the past without actually making the move. I’m excited about the two upcoming episodes in the series!
Definitely looking forward to your thoughts on P30! I keep almost buying Bergger Pancro 400, but I'm sure I will soon. I kind of like the grain I see here, but I've also just fully embraced grain after years of really trying to avoid it.
Curios to hear your thoughts on Pancro 400 once you shot it. Yeah the grain with this film and the dev process in HC110 is such a thing. If you are looking for that grain definitely stick with the 9mins at 20C with HC110.
Hello and thanks a lot for your videos. I usually use Bergger Berspeed developper and I get absolutely no grain. Actually, I also used it recently to develop Ilford Delta 400 and quite an amazing result. You also get more details in the shadows too. I also suggest to shoot it at 320. Cheers.
Thanks for watching and your feedback Sam. I didn't know that there was a Berspeed developer. In the mean time I shot it also at 320 and with a yellow filter. Helped greatly with the look. Just the grain I still would need to fix by using another developer. Cheers and thanks again.
Love these film reviews - keep it up! I developed Berger 400 in XTol following the instructions and wasn't pleased with the results. I seemed to lose the highlights complelety. Those "flat" scans you got look nice though, and the grain doesn't bother me so maybe I should have another look, starting with whether it was a scanning problemI! (By the way - love the shot of the loading bay but missed it in the edited batch!)
Thanks Luke. How was the grain when you developed it in XTol? I didn't edit the loading bay shot in the end because I was so disappointed by how the shadows looked. Nothing I could do about that.
Super late to the party. The last image of the gentleman walking down the street was quite nice. I think it's a city film, if you know what I mean. Open shade, or shadow film. That's how I would use it. I've never been a big fan of Kodak HC- 110. Quite complicated film developer too many dilutions. Thanks for the review. A film for me, definitely worth checking out.
It’s always interesting to see how different we are. I am shooting certain film types because I want to do as little postproduction as possible😆😉👋. Ah, and I would like to see more film tests or presentations. Maybe you could even compare certain films which are aimed at similar photographic situations (like taking photos at night/ high ISO etc.), or you could compare competing films. Especially when it comes to black and white film I often ask myself how a certain film X behaves compared to a certain film Y. But please take this just as a humble suggestion😉👋.
Thanks for watching and your feedback Axel. Let's see where the journey goes. For starters I have a few more "films thoughts" episodes lined up. Those help me a lot to understand the films in detail which in turn can help me compare.
@@TheMPhotography It's a beautiful film if shot + processed correctly. Shame on Bergger for not providing better instructions because quite honestly, its a beautiful film.
@@TheMPhotography Wet darkroom prints are on another level with this film to be honest, its has such a 40/50s classy look. Fomabrom + this film is a match made in heaven, good luck :)
Of course, every developer gives different results. But grain is not always a bad thing. As a person who prints black and white film in the darkroom, I see no point in looking at the film grain in scans...
I am curious to hear from you what you think of the film and if you have experience in developing the film how you avoid the harsh grain. Any tip helps at this point.
I second the T Hopper shoutout! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this film, made me want to try it out myself. I actually like the enhanced grain, but I can totally understand that this is not what you were expecting based on Berggers description. The shot @6:30 is amazing by the way! I am also torn which version I prefer, I think the richness of blacks turning into grays on the edited version wins for me.
Thanks for watching Karin. Yes, exactly. I think the video might've turned out completely differently if the description of the film on their website would not have claimed fine grain. But at least now I know what to expect next time I shoot it. Curious to also hear from you what you think once you shot it. Btw. The Ukrainian film you shot in your last video made me very curious. Need to get my hands on a roll or two.
I LOVE this film! I Love the grain. If I want grainless, I'll go digital. Nice video. Excellent production values and excellent examples.
Thanks a lot. Glad you liked the video and happy to hear that you are enjoying the film.
Thank you for the review! I shot one roll of it a year ago and liked it very much, particularly for the distinct grain (w/ Rodinal) an shallow shadows :) Nice to see that people have different preferences, and always nice to hear other views on it!
Thanks for watching. Nice, I can imagine the look when developed in Rodinal. Fully agree.
A film seldom seen reviewed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on what I’ve considered in the past without actually making the move. I’m excited about the two upcoming episodes in the series!
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it.
Definitely looking forward to your thoughts on P30! I keep almost buying Bergger Pancro 400, but I'm sure I will soon. I kind of like the grain I see here, but I've also just fully embraced grain after years of really trying to avoid it.
Curios to hear your thoughts on Pancro 400 once you shot it. Yeah the grain with this film and the dev process in HC110 is such a thing. If you are looking for that grain definitely stick with the 9mins at 20C with HC110.
P30 is a nice one! just got one roll back and i liked what i saw !! thanks for your channel !!
Thanks for watching Sarah. I also like what I have seen of P30 so far.
Has anyobne tried the 30 seconds less (with Rodinal)? Is the grain smaller?
Dunno how about the others but I haven’t tried it.
Hello and thanks a lot for your videos. I usually use Bergger Berspeed developper and I get absolutely no grain. Actually, I also used it recently to develop Ilford Delta 400 and quite an amazing result. You also get more details in the shadows too. I also suggest to shoot it at 320. Cheers.
Thanks for watching and your feedback Sam. I didn't know that there was a Berspeed developer. In the mean time I shot it also at 320 and with a yellow filter. Helped greatly with the look. Just the grain I still would need to fix by using another developer. Cheers and thanks again.
Excellent video thank you
Thank you!
Love these film reviews - keep it up!
I developed Berger 400 in XTol following the instructions and wasn't pleased with the results. I seemed to lose the highlights complelety. Those "flat" scans you got look nice though, and the grain doesn't bother me so maybe I should have another look, starting with whether it was a scanning problemI!
(By the way - love the shot of the loading bay but missed it in the edited batch!)
Thanks Luke. How was the grain when you developed it in XTol? I didn't edit the loading bay shot in the end because I was so disappointed by how the shadows looked. Nothing I could do about that.
@@TheMPhotography The grain was pretty coarse, but didn't bother me. I wasn't expecting it to be very fine.
Nuce video what scanner, did you use? Thanks
Thanks. Reflecta ProScan 10t
I still have a roll of Pancro 400 in my fridge. I might try to develop it in Xtol to get finer grain.
Cool. Would be nice to hear how Xtol worked out for you with regards to grain once you shoot the roll.
Now that is some proper grain! 😄
I wasn’t too pleased. Many viewers commented on how different development tweaks could improve that .
Super late to the party. The last image of the gentleman walking down the street was quite nice. I think it's a city film, if you know what I mean. Open shade, or shadow film. That's how I would use it. I've never been a big fan of Kodak HC- 110. Quite complicated film developer too many dilutions. Thanks for the review. A film for me, definitely worth checking out.
Thanks for watching and the feedback. Definitely worth trying to develop with a different developer. The film has its niche.
Superb presentation, Markus! Do you speak Romanian ?
Thank you Vedran. Much appreciated. I understand Romanian and I think I can speak a bit. It’s not my mother tongue though.
It’s always interesting to see how different we are. I am shooting certain film types because I want to do as little postproduction as possible😆😉👋.
Ah, and I would like to see more film tests or presentations. Maybe you could even compare certain films which are aimed at similar photographic situations (like taking photos at night/ high ISO etc.), or you could compare competing films. Especially when it comes to black and white film I often ask myself how a certain film X behaves compared to a certain film Y. But please take this just as a humble suggestion😉👋.
Thanks for watching and your feedback Axel. Let's see where the journey goes. For starters I have a few more "films thoughts" episodes lined up. Those help me a lot to understand the films in detail which in turn can help me compare.
Perhaps this is not a 400 asa film, have you tried it at 200 asa with a 20% reduction in development time ?
I tried it at 400 and 200. What I did not try yet is reducing the development time by 20%
I shot two rolls of Pancro 400 in the past and I did not like it. They were devellopped by my local lab and found the photos too grainy
Thanks for watching and your feedback Nelson. The grain looks like a common theme.
The problem is your developer, HC110 does not work well on Pancro, try rodinal low dilution or d76
Thanks B. D76 is what I’m going to try next time.
@@TheMPhotography Also rate at 200, and half your agitation.
Thank you so much for your advice. Looking forward to the results I will have next time.
@@TheMPhotography It's a beautiful film if shot + processed correctly. Shame on Bergger for not providing better instructions because quite honestly, its a beautiful film.
@@TheMPhotography Wet darkroom prints are on another level with this film to be honest, its has such a 40/50s classy look. Fomabrom + this film is a match made in heaven, good luck :)
Of course, every developer gives different results. But grain is not always a bad thing. As a person who prints black and white film in the darkroom, I see no point in looking at the film grain in scans...
Fair enough