Wireless Looping! FS-1-WL & RC-500 Loopstation
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I figured out type A/B thing myself, going back to midi specs and tons of trial and error. I wish Boss specifies this on the manual 🤨 or at least that you published your video a couple of months earlier 😁 I didn't find this little piece of information in any other video of yours before 😊 cheers
100% honesty, I had to find out myself and ended up asking the question on the CME WIDI Facebook Group to find the answer.
But yes I wish it was printed and made clear as well.
Hi JP,
Why is the wireless transmitter from your guitar in the RC 500?
How do I play the guitar and loop at the same time then ?
Cheers for your reply in advance
That’s the wireless receiver- have a look: th-cam.com/video/0i0rxgC887o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=of2CdaXVRQUVP856
Is there a way to assign the midi control as a global setting? Or, do you have to make the change and save it to each memory separately?
There are global midi settings but they are for midi channel and tempo sync.
Regarding the buttons, it’s per memory. But you could make up a blank template and then re-save that to the memory’s you want. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Bummer. Not a big deal moving forward but a little tedious to go back and adjust my previously saved loops.
Great Vid! Thanks for all you’ve posted about the RC 500!
The other way to do it is setup a blank loop first as a canvas or template and then save that as memory 1. Then when you have made something, save it to a different memory. It will save everything over including the loops and settings and then when you go back to memory 1, it will be blank but with the settings you saved as it is your template. 👍🏻 😊
This is how I work.
I see you are using the mic input. Are you also using a mic pre-amp to boost the level before going into the RC-500 mic input? I find that the RC-500 mic input on its own is too low of a level for most mics. This issue has been post many times on different forums. Really annoying to have to use a separate pre-amp etc.
Hey 👋
So not I’m not using a mic pre-amp. Just got it turned up real high. Yeah it’s well documented about the levels. Too low.
Thought it has fills before changing to variation B?
Wouldn't see a reason why using wireless on the same floorboard btw
It depends whether you have fills switched on.
And I agree with you if you have it all on the same pedalboard/floorboard, then you don't have to do it wirelessly that's why it also has a DC in power port on the back.
Can you explain how you setup the 3 buttons on the RC500 for
1. Track 1 Rec / Dub / Undo / Start / Stop
Was it? That was in another loop related video. I was going to go hardwire for the FS-1 but I think I'm also gonna grab the WIDI Jack thanks to your recommendation haha. got it off your link thanks a bunch!
Yes and yes.
The option is T1 R/P/S/C. It’s basically an RC-5 one pedal looper at this point. Only downside is double tap to stop which I’ve always hated but if you have the Fs-1-WL you can make 2 channels really nicely with dedicated stop buttons for each. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK you're a wizard.
seems pretty complicated ! I guess it works the same for RC 5 ?
Yes. You have 8 assigns for the RC-5
I wonder if this works with the boss rc-10r? I will have to look into this. Ty for video.
It should do.
Hi John, can i connect the RC-500 with a cable and a smartphone via Bluetotth at the same time?
Yes. Have a look at the other two videos I did on this: th-cam.com/video/C3wzXW-_gKk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/3r1cTaYEw74/w-d-xo.html
What’s the wireless guitar transmitter featured in this?
It’s this one - th-cam.com/video/0i0rxgC887o/w-d-xo.html
Hi. The FS-1 and Widi Jack stopped pairing. When I first connected them it wouldn't pair. I walked away, came back and it paired. The next day it won't pair again. I've tried different orders of powering on. the instrument light blinks for a couple minutes trying to connect and then shuts off. The Widi blue light continues to blink. Any suggestions. Thanks for your super helpful videos by the way! I've learned so much!
Oh.. that’s no fun. Firstly make sure the firmware is up to date on both! The Widi Jack did have a few updates and that will certainly help. Secondly, have a look at trying to pair the FS1WL to a phone or computer or tablet just to see if it will. Then make sure the device you connect it to forgets it. Next try the WiFi jack with another device. Pieces of elimination.
I normally turn the FS1WL on first and then plug the WiFi jack in to turn it on. However if they have paired before, they should remember each other. Bizarre that they don’t. Grab the apps for both on a phone and have a look.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Thank you! I'll start troubleshooting and install new firmware if neccesary. Somewhat related topic. To run AC to the FS-1, Boss says to use a PSA series cable. Is that really neccesary? I'd like to power it with my one-spot power supply connected to my pedalboard. According to their specs it only draws 8mA. Thoughts?
could you also then also plug in a second FS-6 directly into the CTRL/EXP input of the RC500 since your current FS-6 is in the CTRL/EXP of the Wifi?
12:45 haha there it is.
Yes.
Ahhhh… hehe.
Boss FS-W1 can't send Midi and Hid at the same time and it's a great limitation.
Yeah it’s literally a switch.
Shame they couldn’t sort that out in the software.
How do you get the CC #s for the Midi pedal ?
The CC #s are different depending on what you are using. For the RC-500 they are in the reference manual. For some later devices, you dictate what they are.
You cannot do TRRS direct from wireless to rc500? You need the Bluetooth reciever?
Nope you can do TRS to RC-500. The FS-1-WL has a TRS Midi out port. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK gotcha. You just prefer the wireless-ness of it?
Yeah.. if I could get rid of ALL cables.. I would! 😂
@@JohnPaulMusicUK 😂😂
great vid, I have an RC 500 but I use a backstar live logic 6 button to control it. You have given me some assign ideas. great channel
Thanks. Here’s my playlist of all the RC-500 video (and RC-5) I’ve done so far.. th-cam.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaa2hQEKtoW-FyuhOBCwlfRs.html
Fantastic vid mate, I might need to add that pedal for across the stage changes!
Thanks man. It’s REALLY versatile and can do lots of different things. 👍🏻
Congratulations to you btw on your Management deal! Amazing news 🗞️ 🙌
I totally missed the beginning about the widi being powered by the midi outnof the rc500. One less thing to worry about.
I think I'm gonna test this out as a satellite spot to sing and control the looper on big stages
That’s a cool idea. 👍🏻
Hey, wondwerful demo and thanks a lot for all the info! I'm buying my first switch for the RC500. should I buy a classic FS7 or may I go for the bluetooth?
It’s all about what you need? I have the FS-7 pedal with my RC-600 as it’s what I need to fit on my board.
Ignore the pedals and just ask yourself, “What do I need it to do?” If you need Bluetooth and expandability, then go for then FS-1-WL. If you need 2 more buttons and that will do, go for the FS-7. Just remember that if you go the Bluetooth route, you will need a Bluetooth module, something like the Widi Jack for an RC-500 as Bluetooth isn’t built in.
Hi John Paul, ...great video. However, can I ask you, I have a Blackstar live MIDI pedal whose switches crapped out on me, ...so thinking about picking this One Up instead...Would this One also work with the same mini trs midi cable inherited from the Blackstar?
Yes, should do. 👍🏼
Thanks for all the info. Quick question, Can you connect the FS-6 and the FS1-WL to the RC500 without a WIDI Jack?
Yes. You can use the TRS midi out of the FS-1-WL to the TRS midi in of the RC-500 👍🏻
wow thats amazing😳😳😳😳😳maybe i can use this pedal for boss gt1000core and setup clean,overdrive and distortion chanel🤔🤔🤔
Yes. There is no reason why not. Have a look at this - th-cam.com/video/C3wzXW-_gKk/w-d-xo.html and this is how you edit it.. th-cam.com/video/3r1cTaYEw74/w-d-xo.html
Would It work with just this type of cable: Boss BCC-1-3535, instead of going bluetooth
Yes. 100% would work. 👍🏼
I followed your video to programme the fs-6 for my rc500 setup...this looks interesting too, as I sometimes have to operate those tiny switches on the looper when playing live
Glad it helped
Hello. Thanks for your great video's! Is this also compatibel with the Boss rc5?
Yes. 👍🏻
Hi John! It is possible to use any another cheaper foot switch with the boss rc 500 ?
Yes, absolutely 👍🏻
Thank you! Very inspiring example for applying it with my rc500. 🎉
More than welcome 🙏
Thanks for the video. I was wondering if I could add some extra foot control to my RC-505 Mk II. With that I could probably simply use a MIDI cable. BTW - Moment is short for “Momentary” not “In the moment”. It’s a switch type definition.👍🏻
Yes you can! It’s TRS midi from the pedal so would be a TRS to normal midi cable. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you!👍🏻
Hi!
I really like your tutorials and lately i was struggeling whether to get the Headrush or the RC-600.
So far, how are the fx (delay, reverb, chorus) are usable on an acoustic guitar? In my case, Taylors (722 and 714).
Thx so much!
That’s a good shout and I would say that they are on par with each other. Remember the effects in the Boss are Boss pedals so no arguments there.
The FX in the Headrush come from the same Headrush Pedalboard. Not as detailed in both but they are certainly both at a high level! You can dial in on all of them to get the sound you want. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you for this answer! Slowly I find my way to the buying button. I really like the display on the HRLB, but also like the size of the RC-600, thus I prefer something like all in one device. Really not that easy. Just figured that the Boss is moreover the „market leader“…. So I rather go with that though. Thank you really, like your turorials a lot!
Wow you got an awesome voice dude. That was really cool 🍻
Awww thank you 🙏
Thanks!
Extra points for elbow!
Thanks 🙏 love that song.
Yes! Nice one mate
Haha. Wow! Right on it!
Dope
Cool 🤙🏻
Thank you
A lot going on. Hav eto watch it a few times and learn