E0S1 Feixiao vs Dr. Ratio Comparison ft. Moze & Topaz | MoC 2.4 Kafka

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  • @cornflakebutsilly
    @cornflakebutsilly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    About Moze and Topaz:-
    imo, Moze is better for Ratio and Topaz is better for Feixiao
    Use who you like the difference barely matters 🔥

    • @unendingvoid
      @unendingvoid 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What about jiaoqiu Vs moze for ratio?

    • @VerbosePX
      @VerbosePX 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      damned, that is very interesting !

    • @prisimatica
      @prisimatica 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@unendingvoid Moze all the way (more robin and aventurine hits)

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​​@@prisimaticajiao increases robin's and aventurine's damage as well though - fewer hits, but stronger hits👍

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      jiaoqiu getting replaced 20 days later 🙁 (also, is that for e0 moze?)

  • @TutTuT.
    @TutTuT. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    The disrespect of ending Kafka with a basic from Ratio 😭
    Impressive damage from this Moze though, I hope one day I'll get him do to that much but my relics are cursed. Glad I got him E3 though, he's definitely a good option for the FARM team that way.

  • @jameskevinsegovia
    @jameskevinsegovia 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +171

    Nahh... The fact that Kafka is 40% lightning res but still manage to deal a really decent dmg for a 4 star is insane 🤯

    • @darkkforce
      @darkkforce 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      a lot of the damage comes from robin procs

    • @xo8677
      @xo8677 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      @@darkkforce Yeah his ability to proc Robin's damage so often is really great, he's amazing for a 4 star tbh

    • @frostyyy6823
      @frostyyy6823 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xo8677lmao that sounds like copium

    • @darkkforce
      @darkkforce 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

      @@frostyyy6823 hes not wrong tho. being able to drive robin is a nice thing. not only for damage but also for robin energy regen as well

    • @frostyyy6823
      @frostyyy6823 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@darkkforce I know that but talking about his damage and not include that a lot of the damage is Robin’s sound a bit disingenuous, I’m not saying that he’s not a great 4 star.

  • @drks.499ddk
    @drks.499ddk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I WAS EXPECTING SUCH A VIDEO FROM YOU, I ADORE YOU THX FOR YOUR WORK. 🙏🙏

    • @drks.499ddk
      @drks.499ddk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      (I still wanna go for e6 Ratio tho, I want him too much because I missed the moment when he was given for free. Yeah...)

  • @thenegus5053
    @thenegus5053 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The exact video i was hoping for!

  • @unendingvoid
    @unendingvoid 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Moze's damage is insane

  • @sarveshshetty2655
    @sarveshshetty2655 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    2:41 moze is a 4 star right 🧐🤨

    • @suzain_769
      @suzain_769 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he did more dmg then ratio😅

    • @MuchoBurritoHD
      @MuchoBurritoHD 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m just happy hsr is releasing good 4 star characters.

    • @adriel6411
      @adriel6411 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He did 280k damage in 1 turn, wtf

  • @kurakawa6351
    @kurakawa6351 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Both are very good. Nice showcase!

  • @nkosiezikalala5267
    @nkosiezikalala5267 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    interestingly, Ratio being able to use units like JQ, Tingun and HuoHuo means He isn't directly Powercrept by Feixiao, So that the fact that he's competative in FuA teams is quite telling of his power!! Good Showcase

  • @sa-jy4ve
    @sa-jy4ve 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    I pulled her and holy moly she is ridiculously broken.

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So you’re saying Ratio is ridiculously broken? Or did you not watch the video?

    • @sa-jy4ve
      @sa-jy4ve 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

      @@leedevee I didn't even talk about Ratio wtf ?? lol
      And did YOU not watch the video?? lmao Feixiao did 0 cycle even without Robin's 2nd ult while Ratio barely made 0 cycle with Robin's 2nd ult.

    • @tintedplot96
      @tintedplot96 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@sa-jy4vethat’s super impressive for fei. That’s why she’s able to 0 cycle aventurine whereas I’m not sure ratio can

    • @sa-jy4ve
      @sa-jy4ve 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      @@tintedplot96 She is super impressive. I didn't expect this much tbh.
      Ratio is actually a hypercarry DPS disguised as follow up DPS.

    • @yofukashidayo
      @yofukashidayo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ​@@tintedplot96to be fair to ratio aventurine does have high img resistant. but still, feixiao is noticeably better

  • @m5247
    @m5247 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Big Thanks🙏 now i can skip her for rappa and sunday

  • @hozyayka_tvoey_jopi
    @hozyayka_tvoey_jopi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    я очень ждала подобное видео

  • @xIem0n
    @xIem0n 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    140+ pulls and my moze is only e1☠️

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I feel you, bro. He'll be free at some point in an event though, so be patient

    • @firasj0826
      @firasj0826 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      240+ pulls and mine is e1 as well 😅

    • @daddyjhin3258
      @daddyjhin3258 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yeah, 100+ pulls and I got 1 Moze. I love everything about him, but building him seems like a waste in this state 💀.

    • @descendo24
      @descendo24 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im at a similar point with an E2 moze it sucks

    • @justadude189
      @justadude189 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      bro I got robin and E2 moze in 40 pulls

  • @JohnFiuza-i9q
    @JohnFiuza-i9q 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I mean if they both 0 cycle then who cares

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@JohnFiuza-i9q The difference would be a lot more noticeable when they face off against resistant enemies tho, I didn't make the comparison on aven since ratio is at a big disadvantage in terms of enemy res.

    • @zennaonthez
      @zennaonthez 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Reyal, I don't care as long as the character can complete moc within 4 cycles (which even my blade can do).

    • @Neretzes
      @Neretzes 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      A lot off diff considering future hp powercreep.. but still acceptable to use ratio robin and save for future dps, even with powercreep not 0 cycling is just fine. Basically feixiao is upgraded dps for ratio for non-img weak, and brute forcer for AS. If people got s1 or more investment on ratio its not that worth to pull feixiao, or just e0 feixiao with ratio LC

    • @mauriciorosademoraes9209
      @mauriciorosademoraes9209 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's a Easy Boss. People are forgetting that Hoolay exists and Bosses will get way more stronger after him.

  • @Ctin23_3
    @Ctin23_3 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Question, why not attack Kafka first on Ratio's run with Topaz? The robot wolf gives energy that could've helped Ratio pull another ult right?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@Ctin23_3 topaz's proof of debt was applied on the robot.
      This was the best of five runs so I didn't think much about it.

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​​​@@cornflakebutsillythat's the one thing i hate about my beloved topaz :(
      numby's targeting rng sucks TvT

  • @morti885
    @morti885 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Def getting her on rerun Hoyo ruined plans so iam stuck with my e2s1 Robin goodluck to everyone pulling

  • @mauriciorosademoraes9209
    @mauriciorosademoraes9209 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ratio is the best free character that Hoyoverse made it.
    Functions with F2P team, functions well with nearly all supports of the game, only have the bad bon signature LCs options but this is Hoy fault making everything so useless, getting his Lightcone is maybe a 2x power increases

  • @ce4689
    @ce4689 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Cornflake can you do a boothill comparison between Robin and ruanmei?I think ive seen a video somewhere boothill with robin cleared faster than a boothill ruanmei team.

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I'm not good at playing boothill that's why I barely make vids on him 😭

    • @owoflux6025
      @owoflux6025 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well lemme just tell you that's absolute bull, even Asta competes with Robin in any break team, she's not as bad in a BH team as in an FF team sure but that doesn't mean she's good :p

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@owoflux6025what an ignorant statement. i saw plenty of 0-cycles with e0s0 boothill with robin+bronya and no ruanmei. have you seen a single one with asta? because i haven't😂
      you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about, which is kinda pitiful... i mean, you can't eveb differentiate between boothill teams and firefly teams😅

    • @VTin-oh6em
      @VTin-oh6em 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@_JoeVer Kinghill is just that good, bro can even e0s0 0cc without Ruan Mei or Robin, tho i much prefer Rm over Robin in Kinghill team for comfortable.

  • @Finagou
    @Finagou 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You did somewhat bad dmg distribution for Ratio + Topaz team. Should be also ez 0 cycle

  • @duongnguyen-s1i
    @duongnguyen-s1i 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    glad to have topaz cause i wont gave worry for getting e6. i pulled of kafka and black swan banner and got like 1 moze, i use like 70 pulls. moze still great nonetheless

  • @donew1thita11
    @donew1thita11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I got my e1 robin. Idk if I try for fei or not. Ratio still slaps doe

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nice! e1 robin is fun❤

    • @redmoon9618
      @redmoon9618 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ye ratio still slaps but fei is better tho you could use her for meta, faster clearing and waifu? I got dr ratio weap and fua team so I just pulled her

    • @justblue576
      @justblue576 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go for who you want atp, if you like her pull her, but if you're fine with Ratio and love him I suggest pulling for a new non FuA dps or support

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@justblue576 I got Bronya lol but I won’t use the guarantee on Fei xiao. Rather get a new dps with a gaurantee

    • @sladeTek
      @sladeTek 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@redmoon9618she’s marginally better and not really worth the pulls for meta ijbol might as well pull for aventurine or robin eidolons which are a far better improvement to a FuA team since they’re irreplaceable in those archetypes and they’re a support.

  • @falinar23
    @falinar23 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ahh anyway is it worth for topaz that planar duran ? I cant see topaz ultimate benefit from it
    Try new planar that give increase CDM for unit that can summon

    • @markell1172
      @markell1172 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s actually better duran, the park set is for 3.x characters.

  • @yymei
    @yymei 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    moze the goaaatttttttt

  • @kura6670
    @kura6670 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    new title: moze is broken

  • @Mee-9
    @Mee-9 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    which one is better, feixiao march aventurine robin or ratio topaz aventurine robin
    i can only afford one five star rn so it's either feixiao or topaz

    • @kennethyoung7457
      @kennethyoung7457 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Feixiao, March, Robin and Aventuine is better.

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Mee-9 get feixiao

  • @legendoreis2973
    @legendoreis2973 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Oh yes... Trailblazer, are we? Come to the Xianzhou Alliance for Feixiao, hmm?
    Of course you have. No shame in it.
    Unfortunately for you, however, you are Robinless.

    • @shimmering17.
      @shimmering17. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ok varre

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hilarious reference👍, but e2s1 robin here with 0 interest in feixiao😅
      yunli's so much fun😊 (only with her sig though, otherwise rng sucks😅)

  • @tintedplot96
    @tintedplot96 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a question. Which team for ratio would be stronger. Sparkle+sw, or pela+tingyun?

    • @Zevyne
      @Zevyne 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sparkle and SW.

    • @takuyamishima8
      @takuyamishima8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tingyun? Seriously? Are u stucked in patch 1.xx? Tingyun is long expired. To answer your question, the first team is much stronger. Make sure sw is faster than sparkle so she can apply the debuff first before sparkle pulls ratio

    • @tintedplot96
      @tintedplot96 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@takuyamishima8 go check this channel out and you’ll see tingyun and pela can make ratio clear moc in 1 cycle buddy…

    • @cryophoenix6114
      @cryophoenix6114 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​@@takuyamishima8 you can say the same for other harmonies like Asta or Yukong but Tingyun? She's still one of two units in the entire game that gives energy. Not to mention that she is one of the best users of DDD because she has her ult up when you start battle. Her role is still unreplaceable, at least until they finally release an energy-focused 5 star support.

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@takuyamishima8 Stop being so bitter ong, literally just say the second part of your sentence and delete the first few cause it's DEFINITELY unwarranted.

  • @donew1thita11
    @donew1thita11 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got e6 moze this banner but won’t use him since I will replace my topASS

  • @kkeiei
    @kkeiei 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I dont have aven😢😢😢😢

  • @Sqeauk-123
    @Sqeauk-123 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inert Salsatto on Ratio lol

  • @suzain_769
    @suzain_769 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Should i really try to get feixion when there is not much difference between her and ratio and i also got robin now so,Should i save or pull???

    • @Neretzes
      @Neretzes 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Uh no.. look at feixiao at both comparison, she basically had 1 more robin ult.. and with that ult feixiao can get another ult for herself.. there's a big difference there because of feixiao vs robin synergy, so robin also get a lot of energy from feixiao frequent fua. Basically feixiao has a lot of dpav to spare in this moc, for future powercreep level

    • @joaovitordossantosnascimen5165
      @joaovitordossantosnascimen5165 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      That's will only take one cycle at best compared to Ratio, not worth it imo
      Getting Robin and Aventurine eldolons will be far better for FUA comp along with them being universal for multiple teams

    • @Rycma550
      @Rycma550 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@joaovitordossantosnascimen5165 i have boothill, and i got robin e1 and kafka... Idk... i will try build ratio and after that pull for sunday and aventurine

    • @joaovitordossantosnascimen5165
      @joaovitordossantosnascimen5165 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Rycma550 Same here man
      Gonna try a E1 Sunday and Aventurine when they come
      Wish the best of luck for your pulls!

    • @Rycma550
      @Rycma550 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joaovitordossantosnascimen5165 joaovitornascimentoKKKKKKKKKK ou man tu é br pqpKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

  • @cheesycake455
    @cheesycake455 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Do you think fei is the best dps atm?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      easily, insane unit

    • @sa-jy4ve
      @sa-jy4ve 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      by a large margin. She is 2 tier above Acheron and Firefly. They both have room to improve though.
      You guys should check asagi sim's DPA. Her number is outrageous.

    • @tornado2308
      @tornado2308 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@sa-jy4ve community ain't ready for this conversation lmao

    • @eldijdjbruh214
      @eldijdjbruh214 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@tornado2308sometimes we have to accept powercreep lmao. I didn’t pull feixiao yet but e1 robin instead. But all i know from her showcase that her performance just dominates every dps in this game likes she 0cc every bosses so easy wth.

    • @akayuki2964
      @akayuki2964 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@tornado2308 they've been denying it for the past few weeks and some are still going at it lol

  • @AdamNRG316
    @AdamNRG316 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who would be better in a Topaz less scenario, e2 moze or e6 march hunt?

    • @Hhhh22222-w
      @Hhhh22222-w 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Depends, just use whichever you have better investment for

    • @abstractgirl1971
      @abstractgirl1971 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      I was able to 0 cycle with my E0S0 Feixiao while running March E6 with her (3700 points in AS Stage 4). Her attack frequency is really nice and since feixiao attacks a lot too, she gains her enhanced basic attack pretty quickly, which gives her 100% action forward and allows her to clear out other enemies. Her shifu buffs gives Feixiao speed, crit damage and break effect as well. Plus my favourite thing is the fact that she can also reduce toughness based on the Shifu's type (which would be so huge against enemies that don't have BOTH wind and imaginary weakness). That being said, I have Robin E0S1 and the action forward on her is pretty nice. Moze wouldn't be able to benefit from that unless he's out of his special state. All in all, I want to say that this is me *kinda* coping because I still don't have E2 Moze after spending 100+ pulls on her banner.

    • @AdamNRG316
      @AdamNRG316 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Hhhh22222-w absolutely neither atm which is why I asked. I just don't have the resources to build both having just leveled up both Robin and Feixiao.

    • @AdamNRG316
      @AdamNRG316 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@abstractgirl1971 I was hoping for more as well after that many pulls but alas. I also managed to fuck up and did my last ten pull on Robins banner, getting her e1 instead of her light cone. So I don't know whether to just use For Tomorrows Journey on her or whether to keep trying to get the cone over the next three weeks =/

    • @vessaliusjack2360
      @vessaliusjack2360 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      E2 moze is better in MOC while march hunt is better in AS against wind weak. But for overall use I'd say moze is much better, especially if you don't have robin. I don't have e2 moze either so I have to make do with march for now but we can expect to get him from future events

  • @suzain_769
    @suzain_769 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guys i think moze is the actual/true five star here😅

  • @oIIified
    @oIIified 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Topaz found dead in a ditch

  • @BailuGaming
    @BailuGaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    WHY DID YOU DO TOPAZ SO DIRTY 😭

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Time to E6S5 my expensive wife

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      wdym broski 10:48

    • @BailuGaming
      @BailuGaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@cornflakebutsilly i'm talking about Topaz doing worse than Moze on a 40% Lightning Res Boss(for Ratio)

    • @restart6358
      @restart6358 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@BailuGaming omg true I noticed now, truly a topaz moment

    • @gorilazoe
      @gorilazoe 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      ​@@BailuGaming Ratio's team with Topaz could have also 0 cycle had they focused on Kafka first because the other enemy attacks so much it would have given Ratio enough energy for another ult.

  • @sladeTek
    @sladeTek 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Moze absolutely mogs fraudpaz

    • @ryuki9788
      @ryuki9788 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      doesn't seem to be the case, is it?

    • @sladeTek
      @sladeTek 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ryuki9788 topaz has the worst limited 5 star animations so yes it actually is the case 😂

    • @Lewa500
      @Lewa500 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not Topaz's fault this guy intentionally misplays her to make her look worse. Should've focused the Kafka with Ratio and would've gotten the 0-cycle.

  • @Fernando-pg5sn
    @Fernando-pg5sn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    noo my Acheron!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @apleb7605
      @apleb7605 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Welp in this game all dps’s are bound to get powercrept like Jingliu or DHIL which were hailed as the best dps at one point. Heck I’m slowly coming to terms that even my E2S1 Firefly may be unviable come say patch 4.0.

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@apleb7605unviable is a strong word, i'm still clearing moc+pf+as with my e0s0 140 cdmg seele and e0 sparkle/fuxuan😅

    • @Neretzes
      @Neretzes 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right thing to do always e0s0 first to test waters with dps, maybe s1 if no decent lc like acheron's case. Then you feel how it goes with unfavorable stages/buff. Then upgrade if you feel the need for better damage or skip if there is better investment/powercreep

  • @Theapeofrepute
    @Theapeofrepute 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plz compare Moze vs Pela in Ratio teams

    • @Pepegaphone--
      @Pepegaphone-- 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What team? If it involves robin, this immediately becomes moze e2 > pela e6 with pearl. If it's the tingyun gallagher comp, they should be about the same in performance assuming both are e6