Mouse Breeding Setup - Detailed Overview July 2013
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- As requested I have made a detailed video on my current method for breeding feeder rodents. Forgive the wait and thanks for watching! Thanks in advance for any comments feedback is appreciated.
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Hands down the easiest and cheapest method of breeding mice!!! Love the positive sentiment towards the feeders and the respect for the animals!
One of the best mice breeding video's on youtube! You're one of the few who really care about the mice and take proper care of them, even tho they are feeders. :)
I've been watching videos for an hour. Best and last video I've seen and will see. Thanks for the info.
This is an excellent video! I just started my first colony for my ferret and can't wait for the first litters to come (nor can Discord, as she just discovered there are mice in the kitchen she can't reach). I have the 3 drawer-wide cart similar to yours with 1 buck and 2 does in two of the drawers. I plan to use the third drawer as a grow-out for the babies. It's really awesome to see how much you care about your mice and go to such awesome lengths to ensure they're wellbeing!
Thnk you so very much. I truly appreciate the compliment. I will be doing better vids like these soon. Thanks for staying subbed all this time!
Hey! I remember you from another vid comment section, hope discord is enjoying the mice
this is the first of your videos I have seen and I got to say it was a great video and from another guy raising Rodents of your reptiles and started making videos you really hit home so thank you and I can't wait to see more
I love this video and your set-up. Well done! I actually have a shelf like this I can use for my mice that I used to use for breeding mealworms, so my system will be very cheap to build, doing it your way. I also have 1/" square hardware cloth already to make the hoppers, and I have tons of paper towel tubes. All I need now is the bedding, the food pellets, a few water bottles, a couple wheels, and some sweet breeder stock! Thanks so much for posting this!
My cats will be so happy with a nice supply of pinkies! I recently switched them to raw food (well, one of the 2 is still in transition) and saved my male cat (the one who is in transition) from the brink of pre-diabetes and kidney issues... he had polyuria, peeing 3x the normal amount. So excited to get them a food source. Just gave my one cat thawed frozen pinkies tonight, so I am now hoping to try a small amount of breeding. Your system will make it so easy and cost-effective to get going! Thanks again!!!
I used to breed mice and rats many years ago, but I didn't know about using a bin system like the Sterilite bins or this one, which is even better!
Oh wow, thank you! You have great ideas! I also read how you stun your mice thank you for that to (so much nicer), ever one tells me to hit there head on something... I just can't do it. Very new at the snake thing. Thank you again for the great houseing idea, had no idea what I was gonna do with all these little bugers.
Great presentation in this video. Your bedside manner is fabulous. You were very informative and well-spoken! My daughter is about to start her first colony as she prepares for getting a ball python. This was certainly helpful. Good timing too as we realized today that the mouse pair she got on Saturday is already expecting. I assume the female was pregnant when we got her because she is at least 2 weeks along, just showing.
Thanks. Excellent information. Well presented. I am buying and shipping in frozen mice and loved this video. I had no idea how to set up my mouse viv. I did not want to use and aquarium. This is perfect for what I need.
This video is great I'm just starting to breed my own mice and rats and this taught me so much thanks!
Hi, I've been looking for info on raising mice to use as part of my 4 cats' raw diet, and this one is by far the most informative . Thank you for being so thorough and painstaking.
You taking that crazy cat lady to another level huh
Lots of dog owners feed raw. Why would cats be any different? They ARE carnivores after all.
Great video even many years later after production! You should do an update of new tips and tricks. :)
I like the idea of burning the holes n the tub. Better than a drill that leaves rough edges to be gnawed on. Keep up the good work.😊
Thanks for the video I will be using this set up for my small operation for my animals. Planning on running about a 6 tub system probably
I made a similar setup, but I used a 5 tier drawer set that had two small drawers at the top, then took it apart and used the short supports to make an airspace between the tubs. then I wrapped screen over the support bottom/top of bins and screwed it down. this also allowed me to add an automatic watering system and do away with the water bottles.
Brilliant video the best on TH-cam yet and has helped me tons I have now got a a good set up going to breed to feed some of the small species of owls that I and my friends keep great work keep it up :)
I just wanted to say thank you for this video. I just RECENTLY (like 2 days) got into snakes. We just bought our Posiden (ball) and we bought a pair of breeding mice and a pair of breeding rats, and I have been so stumped! But this video was very encouraging to me! I will def be sub., and looking forward to new videos! Thanks so much !!! And keep up the good work! :)
one of the better vids on youtube thanks for sharing your info mate nicely done and i'm going to follow your lead in my new setup this week, subscribed and will be following you closely, cheers
Let me start off by saying great informative video. I would like to ask you a question. My son has a corn snake that eats a small mouse once a week. We just moved and the closest pet store that sells live mice is pretty far away. His snake will except frozen mice (PETSMART is ridiculously over priced) however my son prefers to feed him live mice. Would breeding be feasible, my concern is I would wind up with to many mice and nothing to do with them.
You can let the female(s) and male breed and have babies once, then seperate female and male. When the babies are 4 weeks old,take away them from their mother. separate the females and males and feed and raise them to wanted size then kill and freeze them. And when you need more mice/rats just let the female(s) and male breed again and then do the same thing.
Best Breeding Mice Vid on youtube!!!! Very helpful ive watched this vid many times already!!!!!
Thanks a million man! I truly appreciate it. You guys inspire me to get better with these videos! Thanks for staying tuned!
this is the first time useing youtube to talk with people. Now i have a large ball python and im wanting to breed feeder mice now i bought two young females and one male and now im hearing alot of fighting with male and the females. should i just feed the male to my snake and then buy anonther male from another place?
Thank you so much for this video!! I've seen it multiple times and where did you get your mice from?
when a mouse gives birth, do you keep the male and the other females in?
I imagine with saving you from having random deaths from pine is both the small amount, and the minimal shavings.
From someone who used one of the bad shavings, at the time they had 20-30 racks, they said they would lose like 10 a week.
And he used excessive bedding.
Eventually he switched to 1/3 bad shavings, 2/3 roasted pine. That gets rid if the respiratory infecting particles. And the small amount of respiratory infection particles also is an insecticide.
Great video with full detail. I only have one question, the metal feeder have you ever had mice climbing up and chewing out?
Michael Barber never had them use the hopper to chew out. As long as they are optimally clean and fed and watered with no over crowding you should have no issues. Sometimes a freak of nature is born and you can easily cull the culprits.
Good little setup.im using two tanks with a 4 female/1 male system.in the process of building a more professional setup soon.
How do you avoid them from escaping from the top space between drawers? I have these drawers and they love to squeeze through that 1" space and escape
Thats what I'm trying to figure out!
Have you ever had an escape? I was thinking about breeding small mice like these for my horned frogs for when they need to eat before cool down for breeding. I want to try this method but I run everything out of a upstairs room in my house and it would be a nightmare if a mouse escaped. What do you suggest? Btw I just wanna say your videos are really helpfull keep them coming I enjoy them very much!
Use something like this, I've never had a mouse escape
+Carlo Bianchini Sorry it is a year late, and no I have never had an escape. It does not mean it can not happen, that is why I stress good maintenance for these guys so they wont have the urge to escape and find food or a cleaner habitat. Good Luck!
Thanks for this great video, it helped me a lot, but i have a question, I only have 1 tank made of 1 male and 3 females since i have 3 snakes only. Should i seperate the male from the tank when the females give birth to their babies? or it's fine to keep them together? Im worry about the male killing the babies but i only have 1 tank.. I would appreciate ur advice! and thanks again
yes but more because the mice can and probably will get pregnant while raising a litter, which is stressful and will end up in dead litters and end up ruining a good female breeder. the males may kill the litter, or they may help raise them, same as mother mouses, they may be good mothers or may eat their litter (eating some is normal because the mother can sense if one is unhealthy and she eats it to get nutrients for her other young to survive).
This idea looks like my best option for my situation. Thank you so much. Do you know it the size will also accommodate a pair of rats also?
Pine wise, if you have any "farm stores" near you, a huge block of horse bedding works, for me, it's $5 for a thing if horse bedding that will last months, verses $10 for something that will only last a week
I just pay 1.25 on sundays and take all the Sunday papers 😂
WOW YOU GO IN TO GOOD DETAIL.THANKS
Is the ventilation enough with that holes?
Great video. I breed pet mice. Thanks for sharing
have you had ay trouble with them trying to get out or chewing?
Great video and info !!!
I got 4 prego mice today so I do not have to wait for them to breed.
Nice video man I have the same set up I have two mom's that just had babies but the first one was eating all of her babies so we decided to feed her to a snake I hope this second mom is a better mom you said you keep two mom's in the tank together why they both have babies I been separating them letting them have there own bin
This works great. For a while I had a chewer she would jump up and grab the sides hang on and chew I didn't want to get rid of her so I took the virgin oil and went around the top of the plastic with it and now when she jumps up she just slides back down :)
How much do you sell the babies for?
I will only have one ball python for now that eats live small rats. I would like to breed some for him. If I only get 1 Male and 2 females would that be too many? I'd rather not buy a rat each week for almost $4
Something is wrong with the camera since the volume keeps going up and down. Other than that, good video!
I think the person who is recording is covering the mic
Can this type of setup work with rats? Are the temperaments and behaviors the same when it comes to living together?
Great video Thank you 🙂
Thanks for your video, I am just starting to breed mice.
Would this work for rats?
Thanks . Big help n advice on small scale
Awesome tutorial man really went into detail.i wanted to know if is the baking soda safe for the mice and the feeder for my snakes i worried about my reptiles eating baking soda id really appreciate if you can answer this for me
I am setting up a controlled breeding project for a future snake collection and have been doing research on this topic for a while now. I had originally purchased a small but pricey bag of holistic dog food only to learn that the protein content is way too high. It is strongly recommended that the food be no more than 13% protein. As much as my mouse would appear to prefer the dog food over the quality mouse food it is said that they will develop severe itching and kidney problems. Also the mice require much much more ventilation that is shown in the setup above. Over time these mice will most likely develop respiratory health problems. So please cull this herd often to prevent suffering.
+JohnPaul Ingress I got ya on all your concerns. As for the ventilation I have also addressed that in the video and explained the way to maximize this by drilling holes at the tops of the drawers to avoid the mice chewing through your vent holes. Also the drawers are not touching tops to bottoms so there is already a good open space for air to go through the drawers if you have them in a well ventilated area which I cant understand why anyone breeding mice would do otherwise once they have experienced the smell. The protein content is fine and I have never had a premature death in all my years of doing this. I know the recommendations and what not but this is not for pet mice it is for breeder setups that can be taxing on the mothers. Thanks for your input though. Good luck to you!
Thank you for the video. It was very informative and your mice are looking well. :)
i am more afraid of the soldering iron than the sircular saw
can you do one with organic produce? like.. for cats, and dogs in raw food diet.. im not sure how to set that up.. we have a lot of left over.. food stuff from the garden but would they be ok on apples, and fruits and stuff like that? we also have black solider flies..and access to grain, and some seeds... so basically im asking about mixing your own feed. also what other toys/entertainment can be put in there with them besides the wheel? are there things i could make for them or .. wood squares things like that?
left over fruits and vegies are fine in small portions and always remove rotting food from enclousure do not leave to soil
Hey its been 10 years. For this video. I have made a better hopper. I would like to share some info back and forth if you ever want to zoom chat.
If mice will use the same waste space, could you include a small rabbit litter box once they establish a waste corner, to make it easier to remove/clean/replace? How often do you replace all the bedding?
Also, how soon can I remove the pinkies to feed to small animals (sugar gliders)? Do they all need to be removed or can I take 3-4/day without the mom freaking out and killing the rest?
I thought about doing this, but there is a gap at the top of the drawers. Do they not try and get out of that gap?
Also I heard that baking soda is no good for snakes. So feeding mice to snakes that have been near baking soda is bad no? Have you had any problems?
Never had an issue. The baking soda is finely sprinkled and its not really ever on the mice. They groom like crazy and i doubt they ever ingest it. But no issues for years, still just my personal experience. Be careful always when using any substance with animals.
Thanks so much for the informative video!
By far best video I have ever seen! Thank u! But I do have a question, I'm watching this cuz I'm thinking about getting a ball python and was wondering if they could live on mice for their whole life? And should they be live? Or should I humanely put them down first?
Aww thanks so much! As for balls, they are very finicky eaters usually and end up letting you know what they want. I say try mice for a good portion of its life, keep in mind varying a balls diet will open you up to it picking and choosing what it wants. I will make a video with more detail. As for how to feed it, i alwayd say prekill or frozen thawed depending on your budget and preference, also the snakes preference lol. I prekill by putting the prey in a sturdy bag and spinning them rapidly for a minute or more, stuns the dizzy without actual trauma and renders them unable to hurt your snake.
I only used wood carving.. Is it Ok if the wood carving have a smell of the wood? is it harmful or?
Great video mate. Greetings from Costa Rica.
thank you for your time! great vid.
A very detailed video... thanks a lot
Hope it helped, let me know if you have questions.
Still the best video out there man! Got any more tips!
Appreciate your comment!
Got my subscription! great video man I have a similar setup
would very small adult mice get out somehow?
+Kahla Peck-Snyder i never had escapes as long as I stayed on top of everything. Keep em clean and well fed and they dont try to escape.
Great video! Thank you 😁
awesome video man! I'm a give this a try!
Was the baking soda safe for the mice?
With the mice will it looks a little small but I can't really get a good view of it. And for the metal ones they can get their feet stuck and develop sores.
Although you can fix this with duct tape.
Thanks for the vid. Very helpful
I love your method
Great video but make sure you get good drawers because some of my mice escaped when i tryed
So I have two snakes: a dumerils (he's probably about a foot long) and a ball (he's about three feet). My ball python eats frozen so I will probably continue buying his rats from the store. But I'm wondering if it would be cheaper and easier to breed mice for my dumerils (he eats live) than to buy them at the store. I've been paying about five dollars a week for just his food.
Also, would the breeding produce TOO MANY mice for him to eat? Since Its just the one snake and I feed him once a week, I'm wondering if there will be like extra babies that will grow to fast and be too big for him to eat eventually? IDK, I'm new at this. How fast do mice grow?
What do you do when you have too many babies ? Can you sell the feeders to pet stores?
Great video man! Very in depth!
No hun thank you for watching! Please let me know if you have any questions.
I felt very video was very informative. I actually have an extra sterilte 3 drawer thingy that im going to use to start a small colony. I have 3 snakes. The largest eats medium rats, then I have one that eats fuzzys, and then pinkies is the last. How many femailes should I start with? I was thinking a 2:1 ratio for the time being.
That is fine. Just ensure to give the moms a break after couple birthings so they dont waste away on you. Good upkeep should yield healthy females that can breed like crazy. They do in the wild lol.
Where dude you get the drawer from
Walmart has them for very cheap. You can also try Menards or Amazon.
great great advice
You use baking soda right not powder? I read baking soda could be harmful?
Yes baking soda.
Great thanks!
Can u plz send a link to the dog food u use? I can’t find that brand
I don't remember- do they have a little something to hide in? I have some tiny cardboard boxes in mine.
+May Davies mine never had hides, i figured they used the entire drawer as such. Just too messy with hides for fast cleaning. They nested just fine.
awesome,helped me a lot
Do U know, would a lot of this information also apply for rats (larger space being an obvious difference, of course). I realize that they really aren't that closely related, but they do share some lifestyle elements, and wanted to check. :)
Hi I know it's late but I want to do a mouse breeding project soon and I really like this method but I do have some questions! Mostly I'm just confused about why you keep the male with his daughters - I know mice like being in a group and it's not a great idea to keep him with the breeders 24/7 but I just was confused about how you manage it.
Scout B Hey sorry for the late reply. It truly depends what you are breeding for. My mice were never meant for pets nor would they wind up in that situation. Thus no need to seperate babies and stop incest. It is easier to breed and keep the colony going when a daughter grows up in the colony. If you add a new female they have to establish their pecking order again and the new female can and will usually kill any babies present or born too soon before she has settled in. Hope that helps.
hi my breeding mice just produced their first litter and I was wondering if snakes would eat the pinkies right after the pinkies were born.
They will, but i would give the pinks some time to drink milk. You can see the belly full of milk once fed. I say give the pink then, more nutrition for the snake than a fresh pup, and dont try feeding the placenta, just yucky lol
my male is smaller than my female will he mate with her?
Yes
What kind of dog food did he say was safe?
IF you still need to oil , your rodent wheel... I use a syringe , with same oil you use... olive oil or vegetable oil.. WORK F#$King GREAT!!!! use about 2 or 3 times a week.. I place a few drops , on the wheel and axel .. and place cap back on syringe and leave syringe filled with oil for next time USe..Works better than q-tips. and you can re-use the syringe ..-( I feed a mixture of Bird Seeds(40lb bag , sunflower 10lb bag , I WANT EM TO GET FAT , and High protein puppy dog food(Blue Wilderness) (steal a few cups from the Dog's Food bag) , mix with Horse / sheep feed. 50 lb bag .. mix all in a rubber maid tub holding about 110 pounds of feed .. cost Way less. (Rural King(E-mails you ADDS) , Or local Famer Market) The Bird seed (40lb bag .) Plus Horse feed (50lb bag) .. (90 pounds of FEED ) ( Also Mix the bedding , I use A big bag of Crushed Corn Cob used for Bedding ($3.99) .Mixed with a Bag of Pine bedding($5.57) on sale I buy bag of pine bedding on sale for about ($3.15 A Bag .. ) MIX 50/50 last long time..-Great Video.. thanks. .Please Reply if you read this and find it useful..( If I cook steak or chicken or Ground beef.. I cook just a little bit (OR RAW STEAK BITS NOT WORTH EATING) unseasoned , and feed the mice.. Each week. (I have given them the Left Over Meat off A T-Bone steak..) Cook Pasta noodles.. After boiling , put a little aside to feed the mice.
“Corey Carpenter”
Good advice!
I had hamsters once they ate their babies too. very good info
Thank you.
You still raising mice??
So by November I'll have a drawer like that with 2 male 2 female. Once they get used to each other ill move them to separate drawers and then start two family's. After all of this ill get a snake and start to feed them
+EpicGoku Try to keep atleast 2 females to one male as having only one female in with him will result in possible overbreeding of the female and this is very stressful on their bodies. Remember you want to give them the best respect possible when providing their care, even if they are simply feeders, they are alive. Good luck and let us know how it goes!
TheEmeraldScale
can't the baking soda cause repatory issues
Ashley katan it has been said it can with the snakes but it never caused me a problem with either mouse or snake. i only sprinkled a little bit, very sparse distribution. Hope that helps, now I use dirt as their substrate and it works even better.
what does holistic mean when it comes to dog food? is it a brand or what?, thanks
Sorry for the late reply. Holistic isnt a brand so much as dog food with as many organic ingredients on the list that i could afford at the time. The brand i would recommend is organix if you can. Authority for the most bargain ok brand from petsmart.
***** alright, thanks man!
Awesome video I will use this method thanks. I have 2 savanna monitors and a 4foot 1600 gram F normal ball python I feed mice thanks so much
she really should be on rats
Also can you put rats in there?
+Kylie Mandock No rats can never cohabitate with Mice, they will kill them eventually and it wont be pretty.
good job man