Intel Mini PCs Are Getting REALLY GOOD | Beelink Mini S12 | Intel N95 | First impressions Benchmarks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2023
- Testing out the new Beelink MINI S12 mini PC.
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Ordered the 16g 500 in pearl white!! Just happened to see it had that color option so hopefully it match’s my desk set up
Just placed an order for the other version of this, with the N100 processor and 16Gb RAM/ 512GB disk. Can't wait to tinker with it!
How much was it?
@@TheScepticalThinker I don't remember exactly, but right below $200.
@@tei1337
that's good.
How does it do in gaming and power consumption?
@@TheScepticalThinker Unfortunately it was on a bit of s backorder, so I haven't received it quite yet. I won't use it for gaming, so I won't be able to tell you anything about that.
@@tei1337 ok no worries
I have the Trigkey version of this system, I think it must be re-badged as it's layout is identical,, just the brand name is different. Fantastic little system, just loving the efficiency and low power draw for what it can do. Seriously thinking of selling my Unraid server (which is an intel 9th gen based system, quite power efficient, but nothing on this scale.) and replacing it with one of these. I don't have crazy storage needs, and it's easy to plug an external drive into one of these if you need the extra storage.
Yeah, exact same here as well. Bought it on an Amazon deal for something like $200 Canadian. Surprisingly good little unit. Put an ancient old 2.5SSD I had laying around, turning into a great basic HTPC and youtube/amazon/netflix box.
hi sir do you recommend removing the nvme ssd and using it for a gpu instead that matches well with the cpu and using storage ssd instead
The fact that Intel is artificially gimping their own products, just so it cannot compete with their normal power usage traditional desktop products, is worrisome. Limiting these wonderful, energy frugal CPUs on the iGPU is expected, but memory channel gimping them is unnecessary.
As higher computing performance keeps getting unlocked at lower and lower power envelopes, they should have expected a point where the world of general computing and even reasonable server use opens up to these ultra power CPUs.
As the ARM RISC world continues their trend from the opposing side - that is to say, from an ultra ultra low power base on an upward trend, eventually fully clashing with x86 on equal power draw terms, Intel and the x86 world shouldnt expect their rivals to do the same gimping.
Interesting times ahead in the CPU architecture wars.
Edit: Either way, Intel producing a CPU architecture that sips power like this while offering significant CPU grunt, should be commended. Glad AMD got them off their a$$e$ or we would probably be approaching $500 4 core CPUs right about now lol
Lest we forget the desktop i7 7700k CPU alone was approaching a $400 MSRP at its launch in early 2017. That 7700k at stock is only marginally faster than this N95 😂
I ordered one with N100 is this better or worse ? i am confused as the benchmark sites say N95 is better sometimes and other times N100.
How's the wifi connectivity performance of this mini pc? I already have one Beelink J45 with Intel J4205 Processor but it's wifi is very weak.
Hey Evo great video i got a quick question I reached out to Beelink and they told me that this particular model was only upgradable to 16 GB and you mentioned 32 gigabytes and I'll be honest I heard other people mentioned 32 as well so do you think the guy at Beelink was wrong just curious about what do you think
from what I've seen on reddit, people with n95 and N100 processors have successfully put in 32gb of ram. unless Intel did manual hardware limitations, there should be in theory, no reason for them limit it to 16gb.
Hey thanks for the reply Evo so I did a little research myself and I figured it out it's upgradeable to 16 GB of ddr4 3200 SDRAM or 32 GB ddr5 4800 and on a side note it's a GPU built into the CPU so in fact it's an APU
Now with that being I'm going to be I'm still learning I'm not sure about the differences and why not 32 ddr4 so please correct me are enlighten me if you'd like thank you
Can anyone get HDMI audio to function within Linux? My Alliwava G55 (C5105 based miniPC) has no audio out of HDMI for Ubuntu 23.10, Linux Mint (Edge), or even Fedora,,,,!
When I go look at pre built (home PCs) and they are still stupid prices I laugh because I know these are out there.
can this be used as seedbox with 10,000+ torrents?
it depends on how you store your files. if you plan on keeping 10K+ torrents worth of files on here, you will not have enough storage expansion to fit all that realistically unless you're seeding tiny files or are ok with using external storage. Now if you have your own dedicated storage nas where you will keep the files themselves and just point the torrenting software towards it, then this is more than powerful enough to seed 10k+ torrents.
@@EVOTech1 they're all music files that i plan on seeding 24/7 on red. I only ask because i worry the torrent client might crash especially during the file checking process when qbitorrent start up, its already quite sluggish on my ryzen 2600
I also plan on using a dual bay external HDD enclosure and turn this into my NAS for home media.
Btw can this mini pc play a 30+GB fhd bluray remux movie smoothly? i realize those android box that claim to play 4k are only web streaming 4k quality, they even choke on fhd bluray encodes above 10GB
When you start the pc for first time does it start with Linux or Windows? In Amazon description says it does come with Ubuntu but I see you on windows 11. Thank you for your time
Mine came with windows 11. I’m pretty sure Beelink does not sell these directly with Linux, so either that listing is just wrong or some 3rd party is manually installing Ubuntu.
@@EVOTech1 you got it, thank you for time bro
Decent price
I might wanna get this to complement my steamdeck
Already hv a gaming pc, might wanna travel light for work and bring this to power up hotel/Airbnb TV
If you're trying to complement a steamdeck, you should be looking into AMD APUs instead. Or on the intel side, something with 80+ EUs on their graphics. This would be the mobile i5/i7 line. That said, if you got a steam deck and don't need the power for what games you are playing, then ok sure. Just make sure because the steam deck is actually for gaming and faster than this. This is not.
Are you ETA Prime?
Would this box make a good OBS streaming appliance?
Would you recommend this as an office pc with only email, browsing and 1-2 small programs running in the background? I'd aim for a 16gb ram/500gb ssd version
that's pretty much the perfect scenario for it. especially with 16gb of ram. especially with how low power it is. you will pretty much never hear the system while doing any of those tasks.
@@EVOTech1 got it, thx a lot!
Bit interesting why Intel would cripple it to single channel memory
Great review!!
Hey, little bit of a novice here, but can you tell me how the base clock speeds for the [Intel N95] and the [Intel N5105] compare with each other?
N95 is faster from what I read
Nice review, grandson, but too long.
Good, balanced review!
Would buy this in a flash for home server if only it had 2.5Gbit ethernet. 1Gbit doesn't really cut it anymore.
The Morefine M9 comes with a N95 or N100 and 2.5GBit ethernet. I just set one up the other day for a media streaming computer for the bedroom.
Does increasing TDP to 25W has any negative effect long-term?
No, if you get a good cooling, vrms and power supply.
can the intel n95 run ps2 emulation games at least? if so that would be awesome...
I do a build for Umbrella Arcades that runs PS2 well, and it uses the N5015.
please test 4 tb m2 ssd, maked please,
What do you want him to "test?"
AV1 support?
Intel XE so yes
Can this run Minecraft Bedrock? 🤔🤔
Can you try uncharted lost legacy
"Hey can you try every single of the bajillion games every single one of your followers wants you to try in separate videos that will get no views?"
4TB NVME is cheap now, there is no reason why it would not work. NVME slot is universal for capacity, only speed is different. That's a pretty sweet home server and usb 2.5Gbe adaptors too are cheap for server and devices + cheap 2.5gbe switch and you have very high speed home or small office network. Heck for ordinary office use, everyone could have one instead of the junk they probably have.
People are saying elsewhere that this Beelink S12 only uses one PCIe lane for the SSD, so, unfortunately, only about 800mbps real world use out of the SSD.
How well would this perform with cloud gaming and android emulation?
And is a single ram really that bad?
Will this replace the celerons and pentium?
This appears to be so. Just like they replaced the atom.
But... like... "replaced" because really, they are just iterating on the same architectures. More like, they are replacing the name.
tbh im more comftable with leaving the celeron and pentium series behind, their too old and had a bad reputation for it being slow, this cpu is something else....
It's an improvement with design changes and evolution on the same design as the "celeron and pentiums" you know. Just like it all goes back to the original atoms. It's not really that much better than the most recent celerons or pentiums either. It's just that the first celerons and pentiums are STILL being sold like new in mini PCs despite being 5+ years old.
It's just a name change. That's all. But as this comment highlights, due to public perception due to the reasons I outlined, I agree with the need for a name change. Just like after atom got such a bad reputation.
How is this compared to AMD mendocino 7220u?
Google passmark and compare the two. Understand the difference between single-threaded and multithreaded performance, then you will be able to make judgements yourself, cross-comparing expectations based on reviews like this video.
Replaced my Windows 10 system (that was getting its support cut off) with Ubuntu running on a Beelink S12.
That little computer does everything I need it to do for less than $200. (Software and hardware.)
This is bad news for Microsoft. They thought people would pay big money to go to Windows 11 ?
Almost 70% of the systems out there were Windows 10 !
Linux... This is the way. The Beelink unit comes with a mounting bracket and short HDMI cord so you can mount it on the back of your monitor.
I hear that China has made a similar institutional decision. They are moving all of their systems to Linux and retraining their IT people.
It is actually cheaper for them to change over to Linux than upgrade to Windows 11. Time to sell that Microsoft stock ?
So, what happens if you stick a 32GB ram module in it?
There is no support in the N95 CPU for anything higher than 16GB. Probably just won't boot.
This AV1 hardware decoding?
It's the same iGPU as Alder Lake so it should. Actually the N100 has more iGPU cores than desktop Alder Lake.
@@aa-yt7wo hardware decoding is a separate block on the iGPU, not included in the cores. It is there or it isn't. It doesn't scale with number of cores.
But you are right in that anything with intel XE has it said block.
In my opinion a normal desktop is the only thing I'll ever give to a relative.
They somehow always end up needing stuff that needs bulky expansion.
like DVD/blu-ray support and other different add ins.
Lots of USB devices out there these days.
What's blueray?
@@kennymccormick8295 sorry... Blu-ray
I'd be afraid to compare it to a MacMini but it works
Hello, n95 or n100 how are good for geforce now tier 4080gtx? With celeron n5095 i had some lags
If you aren't trolling, you're pretty stupid. That's like complaining your sports car is bumpy and not going anywhere the speed it should and then revealing that you have installed bamboo tires. And you are now asking on the internet if you should buy maybe maple wood tires instead.
No. you need proper rubber tires. Your system needs to cost at least as much as that GPU.
You start the video by saying this is in no way a gaming machine and should be used for other purposes. Then you go on to show performance in about 8 games wasting much of the video on the exact thing you said the system was not designed to handle.
There is a huge hole in mini PC content creation. Nearly all reviewers focus on gaming on these low performance machines. A lot of reveiwers even hook these up to a full size GPU in a separate enclosure proving they have no clue about the broader market appeal of these machines.
You know out of the 200 or so mini PC videos I've watched what I have NOT scene? Never once have I see someone open more than 1 browser tab. Try opening a browser with 10 extensions running & 20 tabs open like most people do in their daily life. Try opening Excel, Word, and Chrome. Have Spotify playing over bluetooth while you work on some documents or emails.
The moment a single content creator starts understanding the silent majority doesn't watch mini PC videos because they are only about gaming...a thing people tend to buy a dedicated GPU to do instead of a low wattage mini PC - then that is the moment that channel will outgrow all the other mini PC channels.
kinda agree. it's weird how he mentions its not for gaming then only runs the gaming tests, the thing its not for, on it
To be fair, like he said in the video, anything you've mentioned really doesn't need much these days. There's no real benchmarking to do to see performance. If you already have a system for comparison and want something better, you can just compare yourself by using passmark scores as base.
Opening tabs all at the same time can load up all your CPU threads, but after they are open, it really doesn't matter. Test spotify while writing a word documents? Really bruh? I have 25 tabs I open most of the time. This is not normal as you suggest. If you're having issues, you might just need more RAM.
While there is an argument to be made regarding the creation of a benchmark that opens a bunch of tabs and times until fully loaded, it doesn't exist. The fact that the network is a variable in the equation makes it a non-repeatable test unless a dedicated offline benchmark is created. You're better off comparing passmark scores or cinebench or geekbench scores. Use multithreaded for things that load up your CPU like opening 20 tabs at the same time and use single-threaded for performance in tasks. As for your "spotify" test, it either works or it doesn't. There's little processing involved there and anything in the last 10 years can handle it just fine.
Not an Intel mini pc. It's a chinese turd with an Intel chip. Huge difference.
lol yes, it'd be way better than whatever crap intel made, which would also be made in china of course. but i dont think intel makes mini pc or if they do way worse and more expensive. america got woke went broke.
You're confused. Intel in this case is the describer meaning "contains intel CPU." And it is a mini PC. Therefore, it is an intel mini PC. As opposed to, say, an AMD mini PC. Hardware made by either company is few and far between so it is commonly understood. Had he said "intel NUC," however, then we'd have a problem and a "huge difference" as Intel NUC is an actual full PC product by Intel.
this pc is cheap do you think it would run fortnite at 1280x720 @ 30fps in performance mode
yes performance mode
You might want to search around for recent benchmarks. Fortnite recently changed their engine so the old benchmarks are no longer valid.